It's a police state because that's where the the rubber meets the road. Bankers and their politicians don't point guns at people, they hire police to carry out their evil, and have done so throughout history. Without thugs to carry out Hitler, Stalin or Mao's orders, how high do their death counts get?......


Cops are hired to use violence as part of their job, and ordinarily people have the right to defend themselves from violence. All that gets tossed out the window when the initiator of violence wears a funny costume, and carries a badge.

so youve never lived in a poverty stricken area, or visited a prison, or been to court as a juror, mommy and daddy took nice care of widdle boy, otherwise you wouldnt talk such nonsense, "cops are hired to use violence"

See the double standard? Even if you can see it intellectually, chances are you'll have an emotional reaction, and a desire to reject this information. That's likely due to brainwashing. Unfortunately, our egos don't allow us to accept that most of our thoughts are not our own, and this is why people permit tyranny to happen, time and time again.

If you want to measure the corruption of a society or country, all you have to do is count the number of laws, the higher the number the more corrupt it is.

We know cops are hired to use violence, so is the military.

Somebody has to enforce the law, and in many cases it needs violence.

I believe you were asked for a better solution, and you failed to provide one.

Don't you think a solution should be formed, before you eliminate the existing one.

Like how we waited for the invention of the combine harvester before eliminating slavery?

No it is not a good example.
The combine does not have a thing to do with eliminating slavery,

Did you ever run a combine, all it does in increase production, there are plenty of other jobs for the slaves to do.

Please make the argument for eliminating slavery

And since you can NOT figure it out all by your lonesome, I am going to help you...

Those war lords and undesirable elements exist so that your good buddies from the police state can frighten you into believing that the police state is protecting you...

In reality, they guarantee the existence of the undesirables!!!

That's right kemosabe...I said GUARANTEE...

Take for instance all the crops needing hand picked by migrant workers today?

So are you in favor of eliminating the system, creating mass chaos, and the survivors start their own brand new system, If there are any survivors, because the void open the way for conquest by another power.


Now we have the new system, which will be warlords anyway.

and BTW, just having police, does not make the country a police state, if that were true every country on the planet would be one.

Every country on the planet is a police state, to one degree or another. I'm not even claiming America is among the worst of them either.

A police state is the military ruling the land. Look out your window... yeah, you're ok. This thread is paranoid anti police rhetoric and fear-mongering. But since I'm familiar with op stance, no surprise.
Can u imagine the slime encountered everyday out there? The ones who didn't have the smarts, drop outs, haters, drunks, druggies, thieves, wanted people, retarded people (and I mean that not in the literal sense), the people who can't think their way out of a box? Think of the people you've seen or observed some places and u wonder how they've lived this long being as stupid as they are..

Survival of the unfittest..

A population that has come from high crime territories, people never raised right, people taught to hate cops from the time they're toddlers,
Idiots who have been reading internet b.s. like blm, .. while law and order and racism was on decline, the alleged victims just learned to read,ha! Bad combo....
Obamaphones...the social media way to incite. Cheapy o phonos bought for them with your tax dollars so the phone stores on the malls won't get robbed.. oh the things the powers do to keep the people down and seething.

Way to go, dems. Love all those shovel ready jobs u demanded your freebie folks take up, or else..go without. We can't have that, now can we?

Stop with the hate and fear rhetoric, op..

Your electeds r far scarier in turning blind eyes or being truly unaware of reality "out here" in the real world. While they live safe and protected, the barbarians are running amok.

It's time u appreciated what law and order means.

And time 4 laws and judges to be focus..

NOT THE ENFORCERS.

OK, lets run with your premise.


In a free society people could come together and hire a defensive force through voluntary funding, under contract, and accountable to those they serve.


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Do you have any concept of the logistics of training a force like that, it is a full time job, not a volunteer weekend job, it requires people on the job 24 hours a day.

And who sets the rules, " who they serve", so the south has the KKK running theirs, Dearborn has the muslims running theirs.

as I said, warlords, no central rules.

Your entire theory is absurd.

Do you have any concept of the logistics of training a force like that, it is a full time job, not a volunteer weekend job, it requires people on the job 24 hours a day.

And who sets the rules, " who they serve", so the south has the KKK running theirs, Dearborn has the muslims running theirs.

as I said, warlords, no central rules.

Your entire theory is absurd.