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9/16/2015 7:08:14 PM  

inventtis2
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Here is a winning topic, let's just bring all of the troops home and protect the USA from foreign invaders, we don't need to police the world. This would seriously rightsize the military and we would be more secure at the same time. What say yee?




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9/16/2015 7:31:50 PM South Haven, MI  

hurryme
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Sounds good on a free dating site forum...

You know it is much more complicated than that.

9/16/2015 7:32:12 PM South Haven, MI  

longbobby
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THIS !

+1

9/16/2015 7:49:21 PM South Haven, MI  

naprinciple
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We will know soldiers are fighting for our freedoms when they roll in DC and arrest the congress, president and the SCOTUS

9/16/2015 7:50:16 PM South Haven, MI  
walt_hallow
Over 2,000 Posts (3,279)
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I say yee's a dumbass

9/16/2015 7:52:27 PM South Haven, MI  

txninnc
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Euless, TX
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Quote from inventtis2:
Here is a winning topic, let's just bring all of the troops home and protect the USA from foreign invaders, we don't need to police the world. This would seriously rightsize the military and we would be more secure at the same time. What say yee?


I would say you people didn't learn what a failure isolationism was before WW2. Gee, wouldn't it be great if all of Europe was living under nazism today?

9/16/2015 7:55:57 PM South Haven, MI  

inventtis2
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Quote from txninnc:
I would say you people didn't learn what a failure isolationism was before WW2. Gee, wouldn't it be great if all of Europe was living under nazism today?


How do you know it would be bad, it never happened, to know for sure. I work for a German company, they aren't too bad.

9/16/2015 7:59:55 PM South Haven, MI  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from txninnc:
I would say you people didn't learn what a failure isolationism was before WW2. Gee, wouldn't it be great if all of Europe was living under nazism today?


If they were they sure would not have a muslim problem.

9/16/2015 8:06:01 PM South Haven, MI  

helmholtzwatson
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We don't police the world, we protect corporate profits.

9/16/2015 8:09:19 PM South Haven, MI  

naprinciple
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Quote from helmholtzwatson:
We don't police the world, we protect corporate profits.




And the Petro-Dollar hegemony

9/16/2015 8:09:56 PM South Haven, MI  

inventtis2
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Quote from helmholtzwatson:
We don't police the world, we protect corporate profits.


Explain the difference?

9/16/2015 8:10:53 PM South Haven, MI  
juma2112
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Quote from inventtis2:
How do you know it would be bad, it never happened, to know for sure. I work for a German company, they aren't too bad.



They're not Nazi Germans, are they?



9/16/2015 8:21:10 PM South Haven, MI  
walt_hallow
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ole juma knows Nazis, that's for damn sure!

9/16/2015 8:22:13 PM South Haven, MI  

pdforone
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http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/28/one-soldier-one-year-850000-and-rising/

" One soldier, one year: $850,000 and rising "


http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175627/tomgram%3A_david_vine,_the_true_costs_of_empire


" David Vine, The True Costs of Empire "


http://www.salon.com/2012/12/12/7_absurd_ways_the_military_wastes_taxpayer_dollars/


" 7 absurd ways the military wastes taxpayer dollars "


https://www.whitehouse.gov/2014-taxreceipt


" Your 2014 Taxpayer Receipt "


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2010/08/how_much_does_an_army_general_cost_taxpayers.html

" How Much Does an Army General Cost Taxpayers? "


http://nation.time.com/2012/07/25/cost-of-fielding-a-single-troop-has-nearly-tripled-since-1980/


" Cost of Fielding A Single Troop Has Nearly Tripled Since 1980 "


http://www.businessinsider.com/it-will-cost-2-million-for-each-injured-us-soldier-from-iraq-and-afghanistan-2013-5


" Each Injured US Soldier Will End Up Costing $2 Million On Average "


Think of what keeping 10's or 100's of thousands of our soldiers on bases around the world is costing us?

9/16/2015 8:41:30 PM South Haven, MI  
juma2112
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Quote from walt_hallow:
ole juma knows Nazis, that's for damn sure!


My grandfather was 13 when the Nazis took power.
He served in the Werhmacht, and spent half his life regretting those years. So yeah, I know a lil something about the Nazis.


9/16/2015 8:50:32 PM South Haven, MI  

inventtis2
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Quote from juma2112:
They're not Nazi Germans, are they?



History has one constant, change, even the USSR fell and China has moved forward.

North Korea and Iran seem to be the hold outs, and that hasn't worked very well for them.



[Edited 9/16/2015 8:52:09 PM ]

9/16/2015 9:21:33 PM South Haven, MI  
61falcon
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Virtually all candidates are beating the war drums and talking spending trillions more to build up the already most expensive military budget in the world by far,we spend far too much now and do not get what we pay for.

9/16/2015 9:25:06 PM South Haven, MI  
juma2112
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Quote from 61falcon:
Virtually all candidates are beating the war drums and talking spending trillions more to build up the already most expensive military budget in the world by far,we spend far too much now and do not get what we pay for.


How is maintaining the military beating war drums?



9/17/2015 1:43:59 PM South Haven, MI  

longbobby
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Jews chuckle about their “Jihadi John” “war on terror” PSYOP they’re cashing in on and using to consolidate the stolen state of Israel in the Middle East



9/17/2015 2:32:29 PM South Haven, MI  

helmholtzwatson
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Quote from inventtis2:
Explain the difference?


Historically, we have been quite happy to ignore the crimes of despotic rulers, or entire ethnic "cleansings", as long as they played by our rules & didn't disrupt the cash flow.

It only becomes ethically wrong enough to make it our military (police) business when it's also our corporate business.

9/17/2015 2:44:25 PM South Haven, MI  

longbobby
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Quote from inventtis2:
History has one constant, change, even the USSR fell and China has moved forward.

North Korea and Iran seem to be the hold outs, and that hasn't worked very well for them.


Iran is a member of the Shanghai Co-Prosperity Organization and a member of BRICS.

Iran is hardly a "holdout".

9/17/2015 2:45:32 PM South Haven, MI  

txninnc
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Quote from inventtis2:
How do you know it would be bad, it never happened, to know for sure. I work for a German company, they aren't too bad.


Oh my.

9/17/2015 2:47:16 PM South Haven, MI  
Chairman__Darth
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Quote from inventtis2:
How do you know it would be bad, it never happened, to know for sure. I work for a German company, they aren't too bad.


what? is this a joke?

You work for a German country that was reunited in 1991, do you think If Hitler won the war that you would be better off today?

I think if Germany won, there wouldn't be a America today, and we would have went through world war 3 by now.

Germany would have wiped Russia off the face of the earth, Germany would have controlled Europe, Japan would have controlled Asia, the middle east would be fighting among themselves while Germany tried to conquer them.

japan would have attacked America with Germany help, On this of the world Japanese would have been the official language and eventually The German empire would have faced off with the Japanese empire for world domination.

Imagine a post world war 2 Nazi Europe and Japan.

No Isreal
No north America
No Caribbean
Carved up Africa.
No Stock markets
Sumo Wrestling would be North America top sport
No big companies
no capitalism
No Jews
No Muslims because after the Jews were eliminated, the Muslim would be next, after that the Catholics and any religion.



Mind you No Obama either so that might have been good.

9/17/2015 2:51:10 PM South Haven, MI  
peterk2
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Quote from helmholtzwatson:
Historically, we have been quite happy to ignore the crimes of despotic rulers, or entire ethnic "cleansings", as long as they played by our rules & didn't disrupt the cash flow.

It only becomes ethically wrong enough to make it our military (police) business when it's also our corporate business.


you mean like people like you ok with the current middle east genocide?

wonder if you voted for it?

9/17/2015 3:21:45 PM South Haven, MI  
nat_now
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Ocala, FL
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Quote from 61falcon:
Virtually all candidates are beating the war drums and talking spending trillions more to build up the already most expensive military budget in the world by far,we spend far too much now and do not get what we pay for.


That's a-cuz the sick, ghettos n po dum foke, r spendin' us down down down... send"em over there with the only the equipment YOU think we should spend on military. THEN we could hope to break even after a few months.

Just think of all the savings!

Just makes more sense than sending our brains n brawn into EID land.

You first, Falcon. Git going...

I guess the idea of putting us all in a fishbowl makes sense to op...

9/17/2015 5:27:37 PM South Haven, MI  

k2922
Warren, MI
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Quote from inventtis2:
Here is a winning topic, let's just bring all of the troops home and protect the USA from foreign invaders, we don't need to police the world. This would seriously rightsize the military and we would be more secure at the same time. What say yee?


A M E N !

9/17/2015 5:31:11 PM South Haven, MI  
blake6972
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Quote from walt_hallow:
I say yee's a dumbass


After you looked in the mirror shit stain boy.



9/17/2015 5:34:13 PM South Haven, MI  
blake6972
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OT: hell no.

We shouldn't of been pulled out of Iraq and our military needs to increase not decrease and make more of a presence in the world.

9/17/2015 5:56:10 PM South Haven, MI  
michael061
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Columbia, SC
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The problem with that idea is that we would have to actually build a wall, and then stay inside of it.

Teddy Roosevelt set the tone by demanding that Americans have a right to travel to places that welcome us.

Without our support, the world would soon become a place with nothing but Muslim Nations. (And other really bad guys.) Our people would not be safe anywhere, except in the States. (And we now have enough Muslims living here so that when the day they came after us, the Muslims would find ways to get over, under or around the fence.)

If you want to have safe oceans around us, we need a Navy strong enough to protect them.

If you want safe air space over us, we need an Air Force.

I don't see how you do this without a military strong enough to protect the worlds oceans and the sky's above us.

We should have pulled out of Europe long ago when the folks there still understood what freedom was worth.

I am afraid that if we do not protect the world now, Russia, China, and the Muslims, will take it all. (And leave us as a small isolated island of freedom, surrounded by very strong bastards who all want to kill us.)

What we could do, is what Russia, China, and the Muslims are now doing.

We could take what we want or need. And use it for our own purposes. We could take the North and South Poles for the energy beneath them. We could take Mexico and send her people south. We could take Canada and then have the entire North American Continent. (Which would make it far easier to protect ourselves.)

The trouble with this idea is that our people would not vote for it.



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