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1/13/2016 5:36:18 PM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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to cure blindness. No one cures blindness with spit and mud.

Of course scientists have succeeded.

http://singularityhub.com/2016/01/13/blind-woman-receives-bionic-eye-reads-a-clock-with-elation/



The fictional god represents a bubble of ignorance but is a shrinking god as human ignorance recedes as science progresses. Only bright intelligent people doing real work make the god of ignorance shrink away. Religious loons will remain ignorant.



[Edited 1/13/2016 5:36:43 PM ]

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1/13/2016 6:08:24 PM Jesus failed  
cupocheer
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Jesus never failed.

1/13/2016 6:12:22 PM Jesus failed  

wayn49
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Quote from cupocheer:
Jesus never failed.



agree because God can do anything

1/13/2016 6:15:38 PM Jesus failed  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from wayn49:
agree because God can do anything


He can't grow amputated limbs.

1/13/2016 7:32:22 PM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from wayn49:
agree because God can do anything


None of the gods did anything. You're delusional and not very bridge. That's a failure.

1/13/2016 7:33:36 PM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from cupocheer:
Jesus never failed.


If Jesus existed he failed raising the dead, making the blind see and walking on water. Jesus did succeed on getting nailed.

1/14/2016 5:58:41 AM Jesus failed  

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Quote from wayn49:
agree because God can do anything


So you believe nothing can do anything!

You need the men in white coats to fit you for a jacket with very long sleeves.

Peace

1/15/2016 5:07:35 AM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Science always wins. It's next breakthrough is the discovery of gravitational waves. Science will always move forward and the religious loon will always remain stupid, ignorant and delusional. The more humans discover and learn the religious loons will remain in the dark as a retarded and stunted group of people always rambling nonsense and being left behind.

1/15/2016 5:17:44 AM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Science has created the 3D printer.



Science moves forward and is experiementing with using living cells to print organs for transplant. Soon you can get a new kidney or liver. It's just a matter of time.


The religious fanatic will continue to pray to imaginary beings and worship death while the rest of us worship life.

1/16/2016 12:44:55 PM Jesus failed  

walt_oftheearth
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Quote from Yasureoktoo:
He can't grow amputated limbs.


In that He has not done so now, does not mean He would be unable.

Many in His day, were always clamoring for His miracles.

And hanging on the tree, they said to him there "He saved others. Himself He can not save. Come down now from the cross, and we will believe you."

"Himself He can not save."

Think about that one for awhile, Yas.

1/16/2016 12:57:59 PM Jesus failed  
cupocheer
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Jesus has never failed and never will.

1/16/2016 4:30:30 PM Jesus failed  

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Quote from aphrodisianus:
Science always wins. It's next breakthrough is the discovery of gravitational waves. Science will always move forward and the religious loon will always remain stupid, ignorant and delusional. The more humans discover and learn the religious loons will remain in the dark as a retarded and stunted group of people always rambling nonsense and being left behind.




Love never fails


Does science create Love breath original life---
Science is learning and writing down how creation works---
Science is NOT the Creation it is studying
unless it is studying itself as part of creation

Just my opinions mate!

1/16/2016 5:05:20 PM Jesus failed  
Yasureoktoo
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Quote from Stillherehaha:
Love never fails


!


Hmmm, failed love costs me 2200 a month.

1/16/2016 6:20:11 PM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from walt_oftheearth:
In that He has not done so now, does not mean He would be unable.

You're unable to seek treatment from a mental health professional. No imaginary beings can help you. How come no real person is helping?

1/16/2016 6:22:53 PM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Science just keeps saving lives and making life better. Despite the recent news about people dying from cancer, the rate of cancer deaths over the last 25 years decreased almost 25%. That's a big improvement but it's still a killer. It's just a matter of time science wipes it out.


And what are the religious fanatics doing? They just keep making lives miserable, abusing children, making fools of themselves and remain mentally ill.

https://wakelet.com/wake/3tgPqwrjXy



1/17/2016 5:57:43 AM Jesus failed  

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Aphro wasn't there. He didn't see Jesus succeed at healing people, and he didn't see Him fail either.

1/17/2016 8:56:38 AM Jesus failed  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Aphro wasn't there. He didn't see Jesus succeed at healing people, and he didn't see Him fail either.



Why is jesus not here now curing people? Why did your god make cancer in the first place?

Empty promises made by non existent gods, the greatest hoax, con job, bait & switch ever pulled on the human race.

1/17/2016 9:28:54 AM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Aphro wasn't there. He didn't see Jesus succeed at healing people, and he didn't see Him fail either.


None of the writers of Jesus were there either. Nothing was written about Jesus until 50+ years later and written in a language Jesus wouldn't have spoken.



1/17/2016 10:57:48 AM Jesus failed  

wayn49
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Quote from olderthandirt20:
Why is jesus not here now curing people? Why did your god make cancer in the first place?

Empty promises made by non existent gods, the greatest hoax, con job, bait & switch ever pulled on the human race.



he still does but in many cases people still die. sin has cursed this planet but one day that will be gone forever. and if we really had faith all things are possible. Jesus has not failed but we have

sure there are a lot of things i do not understand but faith is the evidence of things hoped for. the bible is clear, we all are appointed to die once then after that a judgment. that is why we grow old or many die younger. the main thing is to be ready and stop gambling your life away by thinking there is no God

and one more time, i am not insane nor do i need mental help because i chose to believe

1/17/2016 11:02:10 AM Jesus failed  

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Actually
Jesus succeeded . He made and institution fall to their knees . What happened after that , happened when he was dead , and gone .



[Edited 1/17/2016 11:02:45 AM ]

1/17/2016 11:12:16 AM Jesus failed  

nonstandard
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They knew he would never be resurrected , so they resurrected him .

Much of this myth was probably created by the people who loved him , heralded by the people that hated him .

1/17/2016 11:28:51 AM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from wayn49:
he still does...

Where? There is no he because he's dead or never existed. People don't live 2000 years or even 200 so if you believe some guy 2000 years old or even 200 years old is still alive you're mentally ill and but also just plain stupid.

1/17/2016 12:02:57 PM Jesus failed  

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Quote from aphrodisianus:
Where? There is no he because he's dead or never existed. People don't live 2000 years or even 200 so if you believe some guy 2000 years old or even 200 years old is still alive you're mentally ill and but also just plain stupid.



Jesus does and he is alive and well in heaven

1/17/2016 12:44:27 PM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from wayn49:
Jesus does and he is alive and well in heaven

Religious delusions are a symptom of mental illness.

1/17/2016 1:06:24 PM Jesus failed  

wayn49
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Quote from aphrodisianus:
Religious delusions are a symptom of mental illness.



you might have them too when you see Jesus coming

1/17/2016 1:26:51 PM Jesus failed  

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Aphro, I could prove with overwhelming evidence that there was an historical person named Jesus, but what I want to point out to you here is that you have ZERO evidence that He did not exist. You can't prove a negative and your assertion that Jesus never existed is in the negative.

1/17/2016 1:54:49 PM Jesus failed  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from wayn49:
he still does but in many cases people still die. sin has cursed this planet but one day that will be gone forever. and if we really had faith all things are possible. Jesus has not failed but we have

sure there are a lot of things i do not understand but faith is the evidence of things hoped for. the bible is clear, we all are appointed to die once then after that a judgment. that is why we grow old or many die younger. the main thing is to be ready and stop gambling your life away by thinking there is no God

and one more time, i am not insane nor do i need mental help because i chose to believe


That is a monumental cop out, if your god loved the human race then why do children die?
What sin did this child commit ?

The bible is not clear, if it were then all christians would agree, but they don't agree do they wayne? The bible is poorly written and ambiguous and self contradicting.
Actually your superstitions impede science in it's search to cure the diseases that kill or cripple human beings .
Your religion is an anchor around the neck of humanity, you should abandon your fantasy of supernatural heroes ( god ,jesus )and villin ( satan ) and join the modern times.
Work for the good of mankind for a change, leave the conquest to dominate others, stop the witch hunts for heretics, embrace humanity rather than destroying it.



[Edited 1/17/2016 1:57:11 PM ]

1/17/2016 1:57:22 PM Jesus failed  
cupocheer
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Children die because heaven needs angels of all ages.

1/17/2016 2:00:32 PM Jesus failed  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from cupocheer:
Children die because heaven needs angels of all ages.


If that were true then they should have their quota by now,don't you think?

1/17/2016 2:05:27 PM Jesus failed  
cupocheer
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No. As long as births occur there can be no quota achieved.

1/17/2016 2:09:39 PM Jesus failed  

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Quote from cupocheer:
Jesus has never failed and never will.


This. Amen.


1/17/2016 2:25:43 PM Jesus failed  

olderthandirt20
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B F All the children who have died would number more than the current world's population!

1/17/2016 3:01:29 PM Jesus failed  

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Quote from olderthandirt20:
B F All the children who have died would number more than the current world's population!



i pray that God will open your eyes to see the truth. God loves and does not want anyone to be lost

we are the ones who failed not Jesus and Jesus is the one who came to reclaim us back

1/17/2016 5:01:09 PM Jesus failed  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from wayn49:
i pray that God will open your eyes to see the truth. God loves and does not want anyone to be lost

we are the ones who failed not Jesus and Jesus is the one who came to reclaim us back


Save it for those who want it, it's a waste of breath and time. I neither want or require your intercession.

As for truth I believe I am closer to the truth than you will ever be.

Get on your soapbox for the gullible people, you won't find any souls to "save" amongst those with knowledge.

1/17/2016 6:21:40 PM Jesus failed  

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A child from a thirdvworld nation starves and dies at an early age. If baptized, he goestraight to Heaven, if not, he goes straight to Limbo, a place of natural happiness where he lives forever. Six years of misery followed by an eternity of happiness. Well worth the trade.

1/17/2016 7:27:04 PM Jesus failed  

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darwin failed

1/17/2016 7:42:24 PM Jesus failed  

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1/17/2016 7:50:47 PM Jesus failed  

wayn49
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Quote from olderthandirt20:
Save it for those who want it, it's a waste of breath and time. I neither want or require your intercession.

As for truth I believe I am closer to the truth than you will ever be.

Get on your soapbox for the gullible people, you won't find any souls to "save" amongst those with knowledge.



sorry if i offended you but i can pray if i choose.

1/17/2016 8:48:19 PM Jesus failed  

walt_oftheearth
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Quote from olderthandirt20:
if your god loved the human race then why do children die? What sin did this child commit ?


Horrible suffering portrayed in that picture you posted.

All I can say is that mass shipments of humanitarian aid are sent to people in need, but corrupt governments and corrupt people seize the cargo from these ships to fatten their wallets. While little children starve.

Well, what do we then make of this? Should a just and compassionate God intervene and slay these corrupt people with hell fire?

If I were God, I WOULD

So, why doesn't God act now, on our time table?

1/17/2016 8:54:05 PM Jesus failed  

walt_oftheearth
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Quote from olderthandirt20:
Why is jesus not here now curing people? Why did your god make cancer in the first place?


I guess we could say that the fact of God not curing cancer NOW, means that God meant cancer to be; created it, to torture us.

Are there only these three options?.....

God loves us but is powerless
God is powerful but doesn't love us
God doesn't exist

?

1/17/2016 8:56:08 PM Jesus failed  

walt_oftheearth
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Quote from wayn49:
stop gambling your life away by thinking there is no God


Hear what this man is saying, He hit the issue on target.

1/17/2016 9:06:28 PM Jesus failed  

olderthandirt20
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Yes wayn you do have the right to pray for me but it makes no difference in my disbelief in your god and empty promise.
And it's my right to mock your silly superstition. All the platitudes you spout don't change my stance, it only reinforces my position.

1/17/2016 9:08:36 PM Jesus failed  

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Quote from olderthandirt20:
B F All the children who have died would number more than the current world's population!
big mistake people make.humans have caused the suffering not god.god is coming to stop all this soon enough.and for children they get a bypass and go to heaven anyway.

1/17/2016 9:17:50 PM Jesus failed  

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1/17/2016 10:02:08 PM Jesus failed  

rufftreasure
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Quote from wayn49:
sorry if i offended you but i can pray if i choose.


I have brought this to your attention before.
When you pray for a person against their will it is exactly like casting a spell of your intent over another person's free will, but I see you don't get the connection.

1/17/2016 10:10:39 PM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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It's pretty clear that those who display hyper-religiosity are mentally disordered. Those having hallucinations have a more severe pathological condition. Without these mental disorders there isn't much else that sustains the delusions religions loons have.

1/18/2016 5:48:00 AM Jesus failed  
ymia_dikhed
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Quote from olderthandirt20:
Save it for those who want it, it's a waste of breath and time. I neither want or require your intercession.

As for truth I believe I am closer to the truth than you will ever be.

Get on your soapbox for the gullible people, you won't find any souls to "save" amongst those with knowledge.



Knowledge puffs up but Love builds up.

All of man's knowledge first individually and then collectively is just one big pat myself on the back party.

Knowledge only leads to understanding. Understanding tells you- Even what you think you know, you do not yet know.
Show me a man who lives by that understanding and I will show you a man who does not boast about his knowledge.

1/18/2016 7:42:32 AM Jesus failed  

wayn49
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Quote from rufftreasure:
I have brought this to your attention before.
When you pray for a person against their will it is exactly like casting a spell of your intent over another person's free will, but I see you don't get the connection.



yes and it can cause God to do what he has to do to save someone including myself. because i struggle too and its hard

1/18/2016 8:23:53 AM Jesus failed  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from wayn49:
yes and it can cause God to do what he has to do to save someone including myself. because i struggle too and its hard



I'll pray for you wayn;
Universi fortes satan transfer pulicem unum ex circumdabor pelle mea.

1/18/2016 9:28:43 AM Jesus failed  

rufftreasure
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You have NO spiritual ethics whatsoever, Wayn.

1/18/2016 10:15:32 AM Jesus failed  

wayn49
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Quote from rufftreasure:
You have NO spiritual ethics whatsoever, Wayn.



meaning?

1/18/2016 11:39:27 AM Jesus failed  

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1/18/2016 12:29:35 PM Jesus failed  

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Some things there are no evidence for. Some thingsvwe know exist, or are true, from our common sense. Like the existence of God, for instance.

1/18/2016 2:00:30 PM Jesus failed  

olderthandirt20
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
Some things there are no evidence for. Some thingsvwe know exist, or are true, from our common sense. Like the existence of God, for instance.


Shows a complete lack of "commonsense".

1/18/2016 3:54:14 PM Jesus failed  

rufftreasure
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Quote from wayn49:
meaning?


That you would try to direct your personal will and energy to change or manipulate another's free will, against their will.

1/18/2016 4:27:17 PM Jesus failed  

wayn49
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Quote from rufftreasure:
That you would try to direct your personal will and energy to change or manipulate another's free will, against their will.



no i want do that but i will pray. this is the religion in the forums and really its for those who are religious or those who like discussing religious events without trashing believers. non believers are welcome

1/18/2016 5:44:18 PM Jesus failed  

rufftreasure
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I'm not trashing anyone ,Wayne, simply talking about facts, physics really.

1/18/2016 6:07:27 PM Jesus failed  

aphrodisianus
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Quote from wayn49:
no i want do that but i will pray. this is the religion in the forums and really its for those who are religious or those who like discussing religious events without trashing believers. non believers are welcome


You're delusional beliefs are worth trashing because they're based on nothing but superstitious nonsense. Why does that deserve any kind of respect any more than some schizophrenic insisting that aliens from another planet are living in his attic? That's all you, Walt, kb2222, blake, lud, etc do. It's not just nonsense but it's cause is a serious mental disorder.

1/18/2016 6:17:31 PM Jesus failed  

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Quote from aphrodisianus:
You're delusional beliefs are worth trashing because they're based on nothing but superstitious nonsense. Why does that deserve any kind of respect any more than some schizophrenic insisting that aliens from another planet are living in his attic? That's all you, Walt, kb2222, blake, lud, etc do. It's not just nonsense but it's cause is a serious mental disorder.



Excuse me are you Iam what-yum Iam man ---yum u sound so much like him---he wore funny glasses?



I think in my opinion we are failing Jesus
Jesus was kind and No respecter of persons

1/18/2016 7:05:43 PM Jesus failed  

masterweber
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Jesus failed,,and he didn't know how to inherit eternal life...

He didn't follow God will term of life mandatory manual instructions in his gender entitlement of ground standards to succeed his inherit of eternal life..