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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Muslims, we in the West have this impression that yous is a religion of hate, war, and violence, and now after these Belgium bombings our feelings are being confirmed.
Muslims, couldn't you make more converts and gain more respect if you stopped all these terrorist attacks?
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| 3/22/2016 8:42:40 PM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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Islam is a terrorist doctrine.
They already do what they can to get converts.
Keep them away from the books, only allowing them to read the Qur'an, a book of gibberish, and they do not even tell them the correct way to read it.
Actually most muslims, at least here in the west, do not even know the correct way to read it.
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| 3/22/2016 8:43:39 PM |
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olderthandirt20
Waldron, AR
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Dear Catholics your image would improve if your church were to stop hiding your pedophile priests from justice.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.
Clean up your own backyard before you worry about your neighbors yard.
[Edited 3/22/2016 8:45:49 PM ]
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| 3/22/2016 8:45:26 PM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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| 3/22/2016 9:05:12 PM |
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rufftreasure
Fairmont, MN
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Yeah he's got a thread over yonder in CE and P.
Sounds like a typical Catholic Crusader.
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| 3/22/2016 10:45:35 PM |
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clarence2
South Yorkshire
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Muslims, we in the West have this impression that yous is a religion of hate, war, and violence, and now after these Belgium bombings our feelings are being confirmed.
Muslims, couldn't you make more converts and gain more respect if you stopped all these terrorist attacks?
You make yourself look bad (as in hypocritical) by judging billions of people by the actions of a few. When people criticize Catholic paedophile priests you sing a different tune.
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| 3/22/2016 11:38:37 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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Muslims, we in the West have this impression that yous is a religion of hate, war, and violence, and now after these Belgium bombings our feelings are being confirmed.
Muslims, couldn't you make more converts and gain more respect if you stopped all these terrorist attacks?
Maybe you should be asking yourself why they do what they do. Isn't Syria and Iraq Muslim land? Why are we there bombing them then? Why were we bombarding Muslim villages in Lebanon in the 1980s? Why not let the Iraqis and the Iranians and the Turks and the Kurds and the Syrians work out there own issues? Why are we over there? Why don't we get out of their business? Maybe what comes around goes around.
Firing on Muslim Lebanese villages in the 1980s.
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| 3/23/2016 3:20:46 AM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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Political correctness
A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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| 3/23/2016 9:35:29 AM |
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rufftreasure
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Maybe you should be asking yourself why they do what they do. Isn't Syria and Iraq Muslim land? Why are we there bombing them then? Why were we bombarding Muslim villages in Lebanon in the 1980s? Why not let the Iraqis and the Iranians and the Turks and the Kurds and the Syrians work out there own issues? Why are we over there? Why don't we get out of their business? Maybe what comes around goes around.
Firing on Muslim Lebanese villages in the 1980s.
Follow the money, that's where you'll find your answer.
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| 3/23/2016 11:42:48 PM |
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isna_la_wica
Brantford, ON
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Much of the problems in the middle east, have been caused by us in the west, sure.
You do not even have to go back far in history, recent actions by ill informed NATO nations, are enough.
You have GW interfering in Iraq in the first place. Then just when a victory was possible? He and Bremmer did the dumbest move ever, fired the Iraqi military, before power, order and even water was restored.
But then along comes Obama, he must have wanted to out do Bush in the dumb department. He interfered with the elections in Iraq, and propped up sectarian leader Maliki, when the Iraqi people had chosen a non sectarian leader!
Wow.
So, now, we are supporting radical Muslims, so we can beat other radical Muslims,, like sheesh, what will we get? Radical Muslims.
Its unfortunate though, because in the mean time, we have the genocide of Yezidis, Kurds , Christians and non practicing but born Muslims. Which we cannot ignore.
But no conventional group can now, change what is inevitable. A hundred years worth of war.
The only long term reasonable answer?
Support the only bunch in the mid east, who are willing to fight, practice pluralistic ideals and support Gender equality and are not stuck in mid evil tribal disputes. The Kurds.
But alas, this will not happen. We have on one side, Republicans like Trump and Cruz, who will create more insurgents than we can ever destroy. And on the other? Dreamers like Obama who like to claim that only the 1% who are active in ISIL that are dangerous.
And so, they cater to Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia, who are just as evil as ISIL.
And once again, just like Kissinger did back in the 70`s, will screw the Kurds again.
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| 3/24/2016 6:15:58 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I agree with FJO and Isna that we should have never gotten involved in Iraq. I was against that from the get-go.
There are plenty of pedophiles in the clergy of all religions.
I just wonder what Muslims hope to accomplish by their terrorist attacks. And its not just the actions of a few----the Quran specifically requires Muslims to do violence to non-Muslims.
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| 3/24/2016 6:22:33 PM |
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clarence2
South Yorkshire
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the Quran specifically requires Muslims to do violence to non-Muslims.
Show us the verses with their full surrounding context. Show us that Allah is commanding Muslims to use violence against non-Muslims for the indefinite future and the passages don't purely relate to battles between Muslims and disbelieving Arabs at time of writing.
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| 3/24/2016 7:31:40 PM |
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isna_la_wica
Brantford, ON
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I agree with FJO and Isna that we should have never gotten involved in Iraq. I was against that from the get-go.
There are plenty of pedophiles in the clergy of all religions.
I just wonder what Muslims hope to accomplish by their terrorist attacks. And its not just the actions of a few----the Quran specifically requires Muslims to do violence to non-Muslims.
ISIL is an Apocalyptic movement: "The Islamic State awaits the army of “Rome,” whose defeat at Dabiq, Syria, will initiate the countdown to the apocalypse".
What ISIS Really Wants - The Atlantic
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis.../384980/
Look up this article, it explains it very well.
And if while reading it, some of it sounds familiar?
It should, because it is close to what many Christians also wait on and claim is going to happen.
But we should keep in mind, in every religion violence can be justified by some members.
Dozens have been killed in so called exorcism`s in Africa by Pentecostals gone wild. In the name of God, quacks let loose by sanity, will torture and kill when left uncheked. And when you mix in end times dooms day prophecy, and think that the Bible is talking about you and your group, right now? Add a few shots of conspiracies and light it all up with a little bit of presumed persecution? That c*cktail will explode.
And its all mixed in many cults in Christianity right now, the fuse simply has not been lit,,,,yet.
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| 3/24/2016 7:49:12 PM |
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rufftreasure
Fairmont, MN
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Sure looks like it, Dun, over yonder in Current Events
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| 3/24/2016 7:54:35 PM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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| 3/24/2016 11:55:43 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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I agree with FJO and Isna that we should have never gotten involved in Iraq. I was against that from the get-go.
There are plenty of pedophiles in the clergy of all religions.
What does that "Look over there at them and at what they do" have to do with your church, the one you say that Jesus founded, and the one you say we all must belong to and join in with the pedophile priests and homos and call them "Father," and pray to Mary and the saints and confess to a priest or we won't be saved?
I just wonder what Muslims hope to accomplish by their terrorist attacks. And its not just the actions of a few----the Quran specifically requires Muslims to do violence to non-Muslims.
Payback. An eye for an eye. Maybe they hope to force us out of their lands and out of their business. If they were over here bombing us and overthrowing our governments and installing puppet governments would we stand for it?
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| 3/24/2016 11:58:10 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
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the Quran specifically requires Muslims to do violence to non-Muslims.
Show us the verses with their full surrounding context. Show us that Allah is commanding Muslims to use violence against non-Muslims for the indefinite future and the passages don't purely relate to battles between Muslims and disbelieving Arabs at time of writing.
Agreed. Show us the verses, if you can.
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| 3/25/2016 6:23:50 AM |
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isna_la_wica
Brantford, ON
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Sure looks like it, Dun, over yonder in Current Events
I just cannot relate to that forum.
It reminds me of a Trump rally, all that shouting and drama gets loss on me.
For those interested in an insight into a huge factor in how ISIL grew so fast, I think you have to understand Iraq.
Great article here:
Why we stuck with Maliki — and lost Iraq - Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...we-stuck-with-maliki...lost-iraq/.../0dd6...
Jul 3, 2014 - To understand why Iraq is imploding, you must understand Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki — and why the United States has supported him
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| 3/25/2016 7:17:40 AM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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Agreed. Show us the verses, if you can.
How many would you like to see.
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| 3/25/2016 7:38:17 AM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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Just a quick one
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
This particular verse, though in the front of the book, and misleading because of it. is actually about 70 in it's chronological order
There is also controversy in this particular chapter, with claims that it is another book entirely, along with a couple others, and was written into the Qur'an in the 9th century. It does not show up in earlier fragments recovered.
This one was written when Muhammed and his merry men had just conquered Yathrub, renaming it Medina, Yathrub was the Jewish community that gave Muhammed refuge when he was tossed out of Mecca. Here is where he starts his real aggressive actions of terror. Previous to this he was raiding Meccan caravans, He captured Mecca and turns his sights on the Jews. Now he starts on the Jewish communities. He is documented in 78 raids on unarmed settlements and caravans.
Anyways at yathrub, the people surrender, and he beheads 900 males over puberty, and one female. their remains are still buried in the same marketplace in Medina.
is audience at the time is the warriors who accompanied him, their families, the captured women and children.
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| 3/25/2016 7:44:33 AM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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The part of turning them out from where they turned you out still curses us today.
This goes to an Arabic term, (I would have to look it up) which gives muslim title to any land they once owned.
Basically if a muslim group conquers a land, it is always muslim land. Forever.
We feel the reprocussions from this in Israel, and now in Spain. (Others included)
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| 3/25/2016 7:53:25 AM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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While there is much speculation on exactly who, when, and how, the Qur'an was written, the muslim attitude is, It came from God, believe it, shut the f**k up, or we will kill you.
We in the real world, know it did not come from God, it was in fact plagarized from Jewish, Christian, Zoestranism, and Greek medical sources.
The plagiarized quotes were then given a muslim twist, usually filling them with loopholes, or insane rantings.
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| 3/25/2016 8:21:34 AM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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While any other religion concentrates on their God, their people, their parables of learning, Islam devotes most of it's text to concentrating on how to treat the non-believer. Conversion, killing, or enslavement are the only options, and conversion is regulated. Dhimmine's, (non-muslims on muslim land) are basically slaves, 3rd class citizens, lower than women, who pay a huge tax to be allowed to live, and are protected.
This income generated, is important to the government's survival, or was before the oil.
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| 3/25/2016 8:26:35 AM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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Clarence, Followjesusonly, and any other doubter.
I would like to see you bring a muslim to the table to counter anything I say if you are skeptical.
Unfortunately once a "learned muslim" looks at my posts, he will realize what he is up against and will refuse.
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| 3/25/2016 8:10:33 PM |
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Yasureoktoo
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