Athiests believe in God.

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9/15/2008 7:44:22 PM	Athiests believe in God.
valion Chicopee, MA age: 56	Yes, it's true. They believe in God; and God is them. That's why they decide what is good and what is evil rather than allowing God to determine that. They are the epitome of what ails man. That is the entire problem starting with the first sin. Man wanting to be God... Same disease Satan had..... The highest essence of what sin is. Many, all of us sadly, to different degrees, envy God's power. We want to be God. We aren't. Live with it.....
9/15/2008 7:56:30 PM	Athiests believe in God.
lust4love Atco, NJ age: 38	Quote from valion: Yes, it's true. They believe in God; and God is them. That's why they decide what is good and what is evil rather than allowing God to determine that. They are the epitome of what ails man. That is the entire problem starting with the first sin. Man wanting to be God... Same disease Satan had..... The highest essence of what sin is. Many, all of us sadly, to different degrees, envy God's power. We want to be God. We aren't. Live with it..... Thats untrue. I believe everyone has good and evil in their personality.Some more than others.But Im an Athiest because religion was forced on me as a child.I am also part Indian and I was told as a child that natives were Inferior because they hadnt discovered christ.Well if that wasnt the most racist crap that I ever heard.I realized even as a child that I was being lied to. [Edited 9/15/2008 7:57:01 PM]
9/15/2008 8:18:25 PM	Athiests believe in God.
radarlove28 Florence, AL age: 28	Athiests does not believe in hell or heaven. who ever told u this dont know nothen. i know an athiests and he dont believe in nothen he believes your born and then u die thats it!
9/15/2008 8:27:49 PM	Athiests believe in God.
valion Chicopee, MA age: 56	Quote from lust4love: Thats untrue. I believe everyone has good and evil in their personality.Some more than others.But Im an Athiest because religion was forced on me as a child.I am also part Indian and I was told as a child that natives were Inferior because they hadnt discovered christ.Well if that wasnt the most racist crap that I ever heard.I realized even as a child that I was being lied to. No you're an atheist because you do not want to bend to God's will. You want to decide what is right and wrong. Otherwise you would accept His word and try your best to obey it. Hey, I don't like some of the stuff He wants me to do. Tough beans for me. He's God; I'm not. I have to figure He knows a bit more than me, Him creating the whole universe and everything. We all have the same disease. It's called sin. Some of us have it worse than others. Nobody is inferior because they haven't discovered Christ. They are only inferior when they do find Christ and reject Him. But even then they can pick themselves up, dust themselves off, and try to be like Him. Impossible, but you have to try. That's what's going to save our sorry butt in the end. NEVER blame God for what bad people do in His name. He didn't do it to you, they did. And they will answer to Him for that.
9/15/2008 8:31:47 PM	Athiests believe in God.
radarlove28 Florence, AL age: 28	thats why staying in hate and revenge towards others god will not take care of u to get reid of these people i know and i learned!
9/15/2008 9:22:47 PM	Athiests believe in God.
alwaysevolving South Australia Australia age: 46	Atheists simply disbelieve the claim that god/gods exist. That's all. Just remember op, you too are an atheist to all gods except the one you happen to believe in. I'm assuming you don't believe in Zuess, Thor or Vishnu etc? To make any claim about the ethical standpoint of a person based on what he or she does or doesent believe about the supernatural, shows a lack of understanding and hints at bigotry.
9/15/2008 11:14:18 PM	Athiests believe in God.
stormbay Tasmania Australia age: 63	”Athiests believe in God. A contradiction in terms, irrational and illogical and a completely senseless statement. Yep, that's what you'd expect from a god clone ”No you're an atheist because you do not want to bend to God's will. You want to decide what is right and wrong. Otherwise you would accept His word and try your best to obey it. “ I understand it's extremely difficult for you to make sense, when you have no free thought, just a dogmatic program. It's easy to see you have no idea how free people think, nor the definition of atheism or what a non believer means and understand. Hoping to be right, isn't the same as being right, its the opposite. We see the results of allowing a mythical god of war to make judgements, history shows us how well gods followers determine right, by the use of suppression and finally the sword. There is no other verifiable evidence and sensible people wouldn't believe in such a debauched ideology, so can never believe in a mythical god. So your delusion atheists do believe in god, is just that, delusion. [Edited 9/15/2008 11:33:26 PM]
9/16/2008 2:49:32 AM	Athiests believe in God.
dbsuma Lakewood, OH age: 40	Quote from valion: Yes, it's true. They believe in God; and God is them. That's why they decide what is good and what is evil rather than allowing God to determine that. They are the epitome of what ails man. That is the entire problem starting with the first sin. Man wanting to be God... Same disease Satan had..... The highest essence of what sin is. Many, all of us sadly, to different degrees, envy God's power. We want to be God. We aren't. Live with it..... Yes, well, in some respects I think what you say it true but.... Envy of god is not a sin, as much as it is psychologically natural. I think that when anything presents itself as an ideal form then man will seek to emulate that thing, god real or not. But perplexed why you would consider this a sin and what you bases this random assumption on. Perhaps if pride and vanity are sins, then envy of god is a sin, but that would imply one has obtained some godly power to feel pride in. So gonna have to chalk your labeling of this as a sin as more christian mindless babble, just because it sounds good to you, but technically is probably incorrect. If I'm a god, I'm not a very effective one judging by the course of my life. But if god is real then he has proven himself equally useless to me.
9/16/2008 2:52:57 AM	Athiests believe in God.
dbsuma Lakewood, OH age: 40	Quote from radarlove28: Athiests does not believe in hell or heaven. who ever told u this dont know nothen. i know an athiests and he dont believe in nothen he believes your born and then u die thats it! Quote from radarlove28: thats why staying in hate and revenge towards others god will not take care of u to get reid of these people i know and i learned! My, My, My, aren't we quite the illiterate one.
9/16/2008 2:59:21 AM	Athiests believe in God.
duchessa Yonkers, NY age: 57 online now!	Quote from valion: Yes, it's true. They believe in God; and God is them. That's why they decide what is good and what is evil rather than allowing God to determine that. They are the epitome of what ails man. That is the entire problem starting with the first sin. Man wanting to be God... Same disease Satan had..... The highest essence of what sin is. Many, all of us sadly, to different degrees, envy God's power. We want to be God. We aren't. Live with it..... Your post is the perfect example of brainwashing.
9/16/2008 3:26:24 AM	Athiests believe in God.
cece123 Warren, MI age: 48	God and Satan..., good and evil? WOW! I've been to church, Baptis as a youth, Catholic as an adult, even joined the Kindom for a while, even considered becoming atheist at times. Since we are born sinners.... I still believe it is up to each and every parent to instill moral values in their young..... This is where the concept of good and bad becomes our conscious.... and with consious come guilt for our mistakes in life... Theres only one god.... As for us humans no one is completely good or evil.... just like no one person can know everything about life in general. Nor can we pass judgement upon another just at first glance... Since churches are man made, I do believe that the ails of humans are promoted by the ails of humans, Because most of of do live by example, put your best foot forward, and start setting good ones. I've known some very productive, honest, charity giving atheist, who lived good decent lives.... doesn't mean their good or bad...., they just didn't want to get caught up in the passage of judgement.... Lets not stir the pot people.
9/16/2008 5:30:49 AM	Athiests believe in God.
classicsfan Charlottetown, PE age: 51	Quote from valion: "Yes, it's true. They believe in God; and God is them. That's why they decide what is good and what is evil rather than allowing God to determine that. They are the epitome of what ails man. That is the entire problem starting with the first sin. Man wanting to be God..." The definition of atheist is non-theist or no belief in any god. We all describe what is good and evil. atheists, and agnostics often base their morality of the humanist philosophy rather that the bible. However, the bible contains such a contradictory set of books and beliefs, that to us it as a moral guide, one must choose sections and interpret them to make sense of what is happening. The simple proscription "Thou shalt not kill" has qualifications. Most christians would kill to defend themselves or their families, and would not condemn another for killing under those circumstances. Thus, under some circumstances, killing is acceptable. If you are faced with two in an election, one politician supports the freedom for women to choose to have an abortion, but supports feeding the poor and the other opposes abortion but provides no support of those unable to care for themselves, how do you choose. You weigh the choices and make a determination based upon your personal beliefs and which aspect of your religion you put more emphasis upon. When faced with moral dilemmas, most christians agonize over the choices just as atheists do. The source we draw upon to assist us in determining the answers varies. Quote from valion: "Same disease Satan had..... The highest essence of what sin is. Many, all of us sadly, to different degrees, envy God's power. We want to be God. We aren't. Live with it.....[/i"] Since I do not have any belief in any god, I have no wish to not-exist. [Edited 9/16/2008 5:33:13 AM]
9/16/2008 7:38:20 AM	Athiests believe in God.
valion Chicopee, MA age: 56	Quote from dbsuma: Yes, well, in some respects I think what you say it true but.... Envy of god is not a sin, as much as it is psychologically natural. I think that when anything presents itself as an ideal form then man will seek to emulate that thing, god real or not. But perplexed why you would consider this a sin and what you bases this random assumption on. Perhaps if pride and vanity are sins, then envy of god is a sin, but that would imply one has obtained some godly power to feel pride in. So gonna have to chalk your labeling of this as a sin as more christian mindless babble, just because it sounds good to you, but technically is probably incorrect. If I'm a god, I'm not a very effective one judging by the course of my life. But if god is real then he has proven himself equally useless to me. Envy of God is not a sin in itself. The usurping of His sovereignty is. I didn't say envy was the sin. It is a likely motivation for the sin. Chalk it up as you like. My only duty is to speak the truth. I'm not liable if you discard it.
9/16/2008 7:43:05 AM	Athiests believe in God.
valion Chicopee, MA age: 56	Quote from classicsfan: Quote from valion: "Yes, it's true. They believe in God; and God is them. That's why they decide what is good and what is evil rather than allowing God to determine that. They are the epitome of what ails man. That is the entire problem starting with the first sin. Man wanting to be God..." The definition of atheist is non-theist or no belief in any god. We all describe what is good and evil. atheists, and agnostics often base their morality of the humanist philosophy rather that the bible. However, the bible contains such a contradictory set of books and beliefs, that to us it as a moral guide, one must choose sections and interpret them to make sense of what is happening. The simple proscription "Thou shalt not kill" has qualifications. Most christians would kill to defend themselves or their families, and would not condemn another for killing under those circumstances. Thus, under some circumstances, killing is acceptable. If you are faced with two in an election, one politician supports the freedom for women to choose to have an abortion, but supports feeding the poor and the other opposes abortion but provides no support of those unable to care for themselves, how do you choose. You weigh the choices and make a determination based upon your personal beliefs and which aspect of your religion you put more emphasis upon. When faced with moral dilemmas, most christians agonize over the choices just as atheists do. The source we draw upon to assist us in determining the answers varies. Quote from valion: "Same disease Satan had..... The highest essence of what sin is. Many, all of us sadly, to different degrees, envy God's power. We want to be God. We aren't. Live with it.....[/i"] Since I do not have any belief in any god, I have no wish to not-exist. My point is/was that the essence of the entire problem between God and man is the question of sovereignty, and man has chosen to spurn God's authority and replace it with his own. An atheist is the epitome of this. Thou shalt not MURDER, pretty much describes the commandment, as many other Scriptures show self-defense is acceptable, obviously. Let's not mince words.
9/16/2008 7:43:20 AM	Athiests believe in God.
skunkbreath Saint James, MO age: 89	""""My only duty is to speak the truth. """"" Yes, we should all follow the arrogant and prideful delusions of a christo-retard.!!

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