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6/16/2012 6:35:31 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  

jrbogie1949
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,851)
Ventura, CA
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Quote from wolfman91:

And while your at it come on up here and see if I'll call you a lying dumbass to your face. You won't like the results.


quite a debate tactic ya got there. ever change anybody's point of view???

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6/17/2012 7:13:18 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wow_cool_name
Over 2,000 Posts (2,302)
Frederick, MD
31, joined Jun. 2012


I don't hate rich people. I hate the role money plays in our political affairs. I hate how without factoring in taxation and overtime laws, and assuming someone had zero expenses and saved every penny they made, it would take 20 years to make $1.3 M assuming someone makes $35 / hr.

I hate how the assumption is made that everyone wants to be a gazillionaire, instead of maybe acknowledging the fact that not everyone wants to have a ton of money, more so a lot of people want to be able to have an acceptable global standard for quality of life.

It is not okay for Nike to mass produce shoes in Indonesia and pay a child a quarter a day. It is not okay for 70% of global energy consumption to go towards transportation of goods.


It is not okay to misrepresent other people's positions on serious issues that merit legitimate discussion by dumbing down the subject matter.

6/17/2012 11:26:35 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
pelham12345
Bronx, NY
35, joined Dec. 2011


Yea 'not everyone wants a ton of money', but I bet more people do want a ton of money than those that dont, alot more! Lol

Your other points are well taken. I assume you mean is it morally right for Nike though right?

6/19/2012 5:14:46 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wow_cool_name
Over 2,000 Posts (2,302)
Frederick, MD
31, joined Jun. 2012


I think in cases where United States based companies exploit third world countries in order to produce goods cheap, it is morally wrong.

Or when any company based out of any nation exploits another nation's most vulnerable, for that matter.

6/19/2012 7:21:51 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
jokethem
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,151)
Kansas City, KS
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Quote from wow_cool_name:
I think in cases where United States based companies exploit third world countries in order to produce goods cheap, it is morally wrong.

Or when any company based out of any nation exploits another nation's most vulnerable, for that matter.




So if a US company goes over to an underdeveloped country it is not for helping the people there with jobs and wealth and hopfully a better life, but it is only for exploitation? I noticed you did not include in your example of exploiting, the peoples own government or factions exploiting them.

What proof do you have to back your claims here? Or is this just opinions of the Turk, late night TV or other youth brainwash organizations?

6/19/2012 11:49:26 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
pelham12345
Bronx, NY
35, joined Dec. 2011


Quote from wow_cool_name:
I think in cases where United States based companies exploit third world countries in order to produce goods cheap, it is morally wrong.

Or when any company based out of any nation exploits another nation's most vulnerable, for that matter.



Ok thats fine, i agree morally it isnt right.. However morals is a tricky thing in the business world lol.. But on a sidenote, as long as workers arnt being mistreated, theres nothing morally wrong to pay a US quarter a day if people are willing to work for it... Thats just good business practice taking advantage of exchange rates



Jr, yes of course the govts are exploiting them too and allowing things like sweatshops and no regulations.. However many countries are hopelessly corrupt and the govts do little other than to serve themselves



[Edited 6/19/2012 11:51:14 AM ]

6/19/2012 11:56:20 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  

jrbogie1949
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,851)
Ventura, CA
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Quote from wow_cool_name:
I think in cases where United States based companies exploit third world countries in order to produce goods cheap, it is morally wrong.

Or when any company based out of any nation exploits another nation's most vulnerable, for that matter.


yep, u.s. companies have 'exploited' folks in china for so long they now have the fastest growing middle class on the planet.

6/21/2012 7:48:46 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
jokethem
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6/21/2012 7:49:52 PM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
gdragn
Lake Worth, FL
55, joined Jul. 2011


Quote from jrbogie1949:
quite a debate tactic ya got there. ever change anybody's point of view???

Haha, yeah, he changed mine to full on attack mode as you well know from other posts..
Back to point, nobody hates rich people more than other rich people.. Personally witnessed country club millionaires refer to "the low class mutts across the lake"
(millionaires referring to other millionaires), that's why they're never satisfied with
enough, someone else might have MORE, and if the rest of us have to pay economic
extortion to support that, so be it... we are today rapidly becomings victims of the
race to become the world's first trillionaires (the saudi royal family may already
qualify collectively, there's some rich people to hate right there)


6/28/2012 1:20:47 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wasaqueen
Seymour, IN
72, joined Feb. 2012


I don't hate rich people. I hate that there are people that think the only value a person has is how much money they have and that you can be a snake in the grass and be loved if you got enough money.

6/28/2012 1:24:12 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wasaqueen
Seymour, IN
72, joined Feb. 2012


Quote from jokethem:
So if a US company goes over to an underdeveloped country it is not for helping the people there with jobs and wealth and hopfully a better life, but it is only for exploitation? I noticed you did not include in your example of exploiting, the peoples own government or factions exploiting them.

What proof do you have to back your claims here? Or is this just opinions of the Turk, late night TV or other youth brainwash organizations?[/quote





Can you look in the mirror and tell yourself that Bain Capital and others like it sent American jobs to China and India to help China and India? You can lie to me but can you lie to yourself that good?

6/28/2012 7:51:56 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
jokethem
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,151)
Kansas City, KS
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Quote from wasaqueen:
eader]Quote from jokethem:
So if a US company goes over to an underdeveloped country it is not for helping the people there with jobs and wealth and hopfully a better life, but it is only for exploitation? I noticed you did not include in your example of exploiting, the peoples own government or factions exploiting them.

What proof do you have to back your claims here? Or is this just opinions of the Turk, late night TV or other youth brainwash organizations?[/quote





Can you look in the mirror and tell yourself that Bain Capital and others like it sent American jobs to China and India to help China and India? You can lie to me but can you lie to yourself that good?





Bain. Thats all you got? I've got GE and GM on you. I lie to my self everyday. The amazing part is, is I believe me. I myself.

6/29/2012 12:03:42 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wasaqueen
Seymour, IN
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Quote from jokethem:
Bain. Thats all you got? I've got GE and GM on you. I lie to my self everyday. The amazing part is, is I believe me. I myself.



Obviously!!!

6/29/2012 7:45:53 PM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wolfman91
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Conway, AR
26, joined Nov. 2010


Aww more trolling

7/27/2012 3:11:04 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  

jar3359
Morrice, MI
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The rich create jobs not the government have you ever been hired by a poor person I know I haven't

7/29/2012 12:44:02 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  

jar3359
Morrice, MI
38, joined Jul. 2012


Hey lady the rich create the jobs in this country who hired you a poor person

7/29/2012 9:27:36 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  

jrbogie1949
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,851)
Ventura, CA
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both you self proclaimed liberals and conservatives just don't get it. the vast majority of jobs are created by small business very few of which are owned by 'rich people'. you folks seem to argue for the sake of arguing.

7/30/2012 12:43:21 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wasaqueen
Seymour, IN
72, joined Feb. 2012


Quote from jrbogie1949:
both you self proclaimed liberals and conservatives just don't get it. the vast majority of jobs are created by small business very few of which are owned by 'rich people'. you folks seem to argue for the sake of arguing.



Yeah if I was a maid, cook or lawn caretaker they might hire me but other that what does the rich hire us to do? As JR says here it is small business and even larger business and foreign companies that are hiring here. The rich would not allow any of us in the forum even on their property.



[Edited 7/30/2012 12:44:02 AM ]

7/30/2012 12:45:40 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wasaqueen
Seymour, IN
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I never got a pay check from a rich person but rather from small businesses.

7/30/2012 7:28:52 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
jokethem
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Quote from jar3359:
Hey lady the rich create the jobs in this country who hired you a poor person





No you have that all wrong. It is the people on unemployment who makes the business world. Ask Peloci. Besides it is the poor who buy all the products making the rich rich. The rich just take avantage of the poor.

7/30/2012 7:41:02 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
jokethem
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Quote from wasaqueen:
I never got a pay check from a rich person but rather from small businesses.





And where did this small business owner get the money to pay you? You were in trucking. Company A orders product from company B and has to have it shipped. You did not produce any of what you carried. You only drove the carrying vehicle. So you nor the trucking company created a job.

Heres the deal for all those who are hung up on large and small. It is the comsumer that create jobs. If the comsumer does not want a product, that product is not made thus no jobs filled to produce the product. If nobody wanted a chevy truck, is GM going to employ people to make them?

People, take a little credit yourself. We are the job creaters. Business are just the vehicles to which we get our wanted products.

7/31/2012 12:13:59 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wasaqueen
Seymour, IN
72, joined Feb. 2012


Quote from jokethem:
And where did this small business owner get the money to pay you? You were in trucking. Company A orders product from company B and has to have it shipped. You did not produce any of what you carried. You only drove the carrying vehicle. So you nor the trucking company created a job.

Heres the deal for all those who are hung up on large and small. It is the comsumer that create jobs. If the comsumer does not want a product, that product is not made thus no jobs filled to produce the product. If nobody wanted a chevy truck, is GM going to employ people to make them?

People, take a little credit yourself. We are the job creators. Business are just the vehicles to which we get our wanted products.






So you finally admit that rich people do not create jobs finally but demand creates jobs. Soooo you have finally learned something. And the more people we take out of the consumer field the longer this recession will last.


Mister Joker unless I carried the stuff to them they would not work as many of our shipments were needed for anyone at the delivery to work. The lines would shut down.

And how many jobs have you created putting out your signs? You are such a jackass you cannot even give due where it is due. You tight assed republicans value yourselves too much and everyone else too little.

You made a smart assed remark about my accident that was caused by a drunk driver that was not me. So if you are putting up your sooooooooo important sign and get hit by a careless driver maybe some jerkoff can belittle you for being disabled too.

7/31/2012 7:34:36 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
jokethem
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Kansas City, KS
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Quote from wasaqueen:
So you finally admit that rich people do not create jobs finally but demand creates jobs. Soooo you have finally learned something. And the more people we take out of the consumer field the longer this recession will last.


Mister Joker unless I carried the stuff to them they would not work as many of our shipments were needed for anyone at the delivery to work. The lines would shut down.

And how many jobs have you created putting out your signs? You are such a jackass you cannot even give due where it is due. You tight assed republicans value yourselves too much and everyone else too little.

You made a smart assed remark about my accident that was caused by a drunk driver that was not me. So if you are putting up your sooooooooo important sign and get hit by a careless driver maybe some jerkoff can belittle you for being disabled too.





Is it possible for you to answer a reasonable question without getting snarky?

How many jobs have I created? Well I'm going to let you tell me:
Two people drive a truck for me. Neither these two positions nor did my company exsist even a year ago. So you tell me. By creating a new company, by hiring two people to work these two never before jobs, for my new company, did I create two new jobs? You tell me wasa.

7/31/2012 5:05:21 PM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wasaqueen
Seymour, IN
72, joined Feb. 2012


Quote from jokethem:
Is it possible for you to answer a reasonable question without getting snarky?

How many jobs have I created? Well I'm going to let you tell me:
Two people drive a truck for me. Neither these two positions nor did my company exsist even a year ago. So you tell me. By creating a new company, by hiring two people to work these two never before jobs, for my new company, did I create two new jobs? You tell me wasa.




Why am I 'snarky' when you insult my family, my job, the way I live, what I believe religiously [not], my intelligence and anything else you can think of.

7/31/2012 9:16:31 PM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
jokethem
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,151)
Kansas City, KS
63, joined Feb. 2012


Quote from wasaqueen:
Why am I 'snarky' when you insult my family, my job, the way I live, what I believe religiously [not], my intelligence and anything else you can think of.





So did I create any jobs or not?

7/31/2012 9:54:41 PM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
wasaqueen
Seymour, IN
72, joined Feb. 2012


Quote from jokethem:
So did I create any jobs or not?



I don't know as I do not know if anything you say is the truth since you hide on your profile and change what you say is fact so often. You said you work for the state and then you say you started a business so how am I supposed to know what is true about you. I have even given you my real name a while back to look me up on facebook.

8/1/2012 7:01:20 AM So libs hate rich people | Page 2  
jokethem
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Kansas City, KS
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Quote from wasaqueen:


I don't know as I do not know if anything you say is the truth since you hide on your profile and change what you say is fact so often. You said you work for the state and then you say you started a business so how am I supposed to know what is true about you. I have even given you my real name a while back to look me up on facebook.




you are so full of crap wasa. Well if you don't know if what I told you is true then want makes you think any company is true? your one piece of work.