There was one time it looked that way. More the people vs the government. It could still happen if the government trys to take away gun rights. Our military will not get involved. If there is a war of any kind, I see it being a race war. Emotions are being stirred by this sob in the white house and his friends. Get the blacks revved up, then the white get revved and all hell breaks loss. Most people of all color know better then to believe this crap going on but there are alot of people of all colors just looking for a reason.

Well, I think you're a dreamer. By and large the members of the military will do their duty according to their 'leaders'. There could be a small group of rebels, but certainly not the majority.
People that think that the military won't come to the aid of the government, deny the 'facts' of history in many other nations.
Also, remember Kent State?
Do you think that the troops didn't know they had live ammunition?

I don't know. Some think the military, some think U.N. troops. Heck some think its in the works already with the militarization of local police forces.
Let me throw another thing out there. What about concentration camps? Reeducation camps? I've been watching this Infowars channel on youtube and there's some scary stuff going on. The N.D.A.A. Obama passed authorises indefinate detention based on mere suspicion, allows for the U.S. military to be deployed against its citizens...then you've got drones flying around and fema camps going up. And I know for a fact that there are prisons on military bases because my exs brother was at a prison on an air force base in Avon Park Fl. Thoughts?

I have more fear of these tea patties who think they got the right to make everyone live by their religion and think they need 100 guns for them to feel safe. I have not heard one single word from the President or his administration say one word about taking any ones guns.

Again the only people that I have heard talking about taking up arms is the tea party.

YOU ARE NOT EVEN SLIGHTLY FUNNY Joke.

yep. imagine a state, much less a few militias, taking on the firepower of our military. it damn sure won't be 'everybody bring your muskets and let's whip some yankee ass.'

From the economy to race relations to gun rights and on to foreign policy and even the rapid militarization of of police forces, this country seems to be at a boiling point. Any ideas whats coming?

I have more fear of these tea patties who think they got the right to make everyone live by their religion and think they need 100 guns for them to feel safe. I have not heard one single word from the President or his administration say one word about taking any ones guns.

Again the only people that I have heard talking about taking up arms is the tea party.

then you obviously havent herd barbara boxer run her yap as of late

its because BIG business have you blocked. BTW, what ever happened to your ows? Companies finally got tired of feeding the lazy bastards and sent them back to their worthless hippy parents?

Queenie, you are still an idiot that cannot see past your next addiction. You have not changed and the world won't miss you. Trust me.

From the economy to race relations to gun rights and on to foreign policy and even the rapid militarization of of police forces, this country seems to be at a boiling point. Any ideas whats coming?

The govt solution to deal with Michigan: Seal state border, wait till winter. That lake effect snow will take care of te problem

I think on the political level it could be state against state. This countries dissolution is apparent in the map. look at a red and blue map. It seems like every election the regions seperate ideologies get farther and farther apart. But your right though. In each state there will be turmoil. ITs like if say Tennessee seceeded....You'd have all kinds problems in memphis. And same goes for a blue state. Conseravtive areas wouldnt support the majority liberal areas.


But I do think theres a difference. If you look at our first civil war there were very conservative groups in the north that supported slavery. As well there were vary liberal groups in the south that didn't. Majority will rule and the minority will follow. I think in a time of war you shut your mouth if the majority of your neighbors support something different.

But a civil war isn't likely. And honestly I know alot of us don't like Obama. But four more years of Obama isn't worth sacrificing an entire generation of americans for. And to be honest Republicans do things that scare the shit out of me and something that even If I agreed with them on policy Id fight them tooth and nail over just because its wrong. Id fight either party. For example. In Ohio republican leaning counties you can show up at 7pm to vote if you wanted too for early voting. But in democratic leaning counties the polls shut down at 5pm. its subtle shit like that that is hard for me to support. And Id feel the same way if the democrats did this or independent parties....anyone.

We just need to start being smart about things. I don't care to vote for anyone reguardless of party if they have good ideas and realistic ways to achieve them. And further more I think major spending projects should go to the voters. I know we have a republic and apart of having a republic is letting representatives vote for the constiuents. But how often do we vote for people then they turn around and vote for things that nobody would want except maybe a lobbyiest. Then they get money and they can spin their votes anyway they want. Give a little back to the people. For example....want a healthcare program?....Well explain the program, explain the costs and what it means then send it to the voters.

You guys talk about the economy but it is food and water that is going to be the big fights in the future. Can anyone think past the next week or month.

Have enough food stocks to last 15 years.

Water purification tablets to last 30

Im a re-loader. And Ive got food stocks but seriously? This isn't going to happen like this. I don't live my life like the world as we know it is going to end. I mean who wants to live in a world where your drinking clorine flavored water for 30years and food from 5 gallon drums. The hell with that.

Yes, your right. Teaching a man to fish and giving him a fishing pole, or a still haha is what we should be doing. And I don't give a damn if thats socialism. It costs money to teach people how to survive then to thrive. And in time it helps everyone. It helps the tax payers supporting the programs, It helps communities when people move from social programs to working for a living, and it broadens the tax base which over time pays for the intial expenses of the programs. A solid economy isn't the tired old trickle down economics garbage that has been spewed over the past 40 years. Sure investment from those who have the money to invest is important, but I don't care how much money the people who invest have, they'll not invest in things if there isn't demand for a product or service. For there to be "demand" there has to be people who have jobs that can support the cost of the services and products that as investors we want to sell. So that means educating and training people to do and get better jobs.

And the challenge we face is promoting entrepreuners to start businesses which means being business friendly and having a business friendly environment yet at the same time implementing these programs that really do work. And another challenge is identifing those who will actually take the training and view as an opportunity for advancement and not just a way to get something for nothing. And taking the appropiate actions to weed out those who are just trying to abuse the system.

The truth is we have to invest in things if we are going to continue to be prosperous. Which means we have to take chances. Thats what being an entreprenuer is. And we're all capitalists deep down reguardless of politics. Our entire way of life is because the people that came before us took calculated risks and were smart and savvy about how they took them.

And I guess thats what has me concerned in this upcoming election. We have a choice between Democrats that are so crazy they need medication and republicans that are so inbred stupid they need a bike helmet. The first group of people who show me that have a little bit of sense will get my vote. The answers to our problems are getting lost in our politics. And for two groups of people who claim to be our best and brightest hows come none of them can do math? And I currently can't make an argument that would support either obama or romney. Heres a fun fact though....no matter what we'll have a president who had a polygamus grandfather!.....Wow, we have really came far