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vant
Wilmington, DE
age: 50
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swcw25- perhaps in the future i won't be so subtle. It's difficult when writing to a group when you know little or nothing about their educational backgroud, biases and preconceived notions.
And while we're on the subject of not knowing people, what a presumptuous, cruel and non-Christian act to say to me that i have no self worth. As a "holier than thou" Christian you should withhold judgement on someone who you really don't know or fully understand.
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| 8/16/2007 10:39:13 AM |
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vant
Wilmington, DE
age: 50
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syngar- your taking my remark out of context and distorting it to fit your own agenda.
Helping others for the sake of helping them, is a wonderful thing in itself. I just don't feel you should help others to validate that you're a "good Christian" or that you're a good person. You just help people and that's it, period.
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| 8/16/2007 10:50:22 AM |
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vant
Wilmington, DE
age: 50
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syngar- Gee i don't know but:
-"but youd be a shit not to appreciate it"-
sounds like pretty strong hostility to me.
I did't say you "demanded" indebtedness,i said you'd have bitter resentment and your
remark -"but youd be a shit not to appreciate it"- supports this position.
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| 8/16/2007 10:54:47 AM |
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ironranger
Owatonna, MN
age: 40
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psychology is of the mind....... im not talking about the mind.
dont have to read kant to know i feel inside.
Please define "to be called", by whom, how.
for me being called is a feeling i get inside that is not about reason ...... it cant be controlled by will or thought - only ignored by my human self.
im a christian so i feel that a calling is from god.
how - recognition of the spiritual self.
Didn't see good will hunting - can't comment.
its a good movie and one worth watching.
"you totally missed the whole point about humanity"-
according to your reality, argue the point not the person
missed wasnt a straw man - you didnt comment on humanity - you may have overlooked the point or didnt catch it or i wasnt clear.
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| 8/16/2007 10:59:06 AM |
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vant
Wilmington, DE
age: 50
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syngar- i absolutely agree. If someone offers help you should appreciate it.
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| 8/16/2007 11:06:10 AM |
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vant
Wilmington, DE
age: 50
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ironranger- Thanks for sharing what you mean by "to be called" with me.
I'll try to get to watch Good will hunting.
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| 8/16/2007 11:14:27 AM |
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swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!
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Vat...first of all...I didnt say you had no worth,I said you have not felt the feeling of total worth.Feeling complete,like "nothing humanly possible" could make you feel any better than you do at that moment.
While education,background,and beliefs,play a part in the being of a person,it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know if someone is a "jerk wad".Funny how they are the ones who think their better than everyone else and that the rules dont apply to them.
Yes..I am a Christian,but I have NEVER thought I was better or Holier than anyone,NEVER!I dont judge anyone,but.....I call em as I see em! If I see good in something or someone I will be the first to let you know and show my appreciation!But when I see bad and especially someone who thinks its their right to be mean to whoever they want....hmmmm I tend to get a little ummmm...Not so Christian like!
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| 8/16/2007 11:23:03 AM |
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swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!
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Helping others for the sake of helping them, is a wonderful thing in itself. I just don't feel you should help others to validate that you're a "good Christian" or that you're a good person. You just help people and that's it, period.
20 or so posts ago,you were not singing that song!!!You are the only one who said Christians do good, for validation and selfishness....YOU!
What you just said...is what we have all been trying to tell you. Your turning things way around... Maybe your trying to Convert or something.
PS Never copied and posted before....did I do it right?
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| 8/16/2007 11:33:45 AM |
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vant
Wilmington, DE
age: 50
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swcw25- your not judgemental?
"You obviously never have experienced the feeling of total "worth"
Im sorry for you that someone taught you otherwise and you now Believe that.You are missing out on a Beautiful thing!!"
I suppose that's not being judgemental.
And now i suppose you're calling me a "jerk wad".
Furthermore, i'm a "bad" person because i don't agree with the way you think.
I don't think that you're a "jerk wad" and i think you are a good person
that holds steadfast to your beliefs even if they are not the same as mine.
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| 8/16/2007 11:44:55 AM |
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swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!
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You have changed your whole opinion around,very fast.Perhaps there is Hope for you!
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| 8/16/2007 11:52:11 AM |
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swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!
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Vat....I never said I wasnt judgemental or that I dont get mad at people and call them names.I said I never initiate cruelty or meanness but when provoked I have a hard time w/patience and kindness.I work on my aggression and patience daily.And I am certainly not Blind to it.
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| 8/16/2007 11:59:49 AM |
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vant
Wilmington, DE
age: 50
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swcw25- all of the previous posts on this thread have addressed Christian groups or missionaries, starting with the very first post. So i stayed on topic. If it seems i'm singling out Christians, i'm not. See the part of my post that says,
" This motivation isn't limited to missionaries, many people that do acts of charity feel that god knows of thier kindness and they will be rewarded".
Note i didn't say- Christian missionaries and i'm referring to all people.
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| 8/16/2007 12:03:36 PM |
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vant
Wilmington, DE
age: 50
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i would continue, but if i don't leave now i'll be lare for vepers.
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| 8/16/2007 1:00:52 PM |
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swcw25
Woonsocket, RI
age: 48 online now!
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Perhaps Vat I let things get carried away,I am sorry if I took things you were saying the wrong way.I have found it helpful in any conversation and especially on paper(internet)to be careful when using certain phrases to describe groups of people.
I try to stay away from things like....most people,all people,white people,asian people,Muslims,Christians,the government etc...And use things like...some people,there are some white people,Ive heard of some Asians,Muslims,christians,and even...there are many in the government..See the difference small words can make? Thanks for listening! Peace
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| 8/16/2007 1:27:06 PM |
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ironranger
Owatonna, MN
age: 40
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your welcome vant.
a beautiful mind is pretty good too.
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