7/25/2012 4:23:22 PM |
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cenvallguy
Visalia, CA
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1. Boxing |
2. Karate (Japanese) |
3. Kung Fu (Chinese) |
4. Wrestling (Greco/ Freestyle/ Folkstyle/ Submission) |
5. Jujitsu/Judo/ Aikido |
6. Muay Thai |
There are other styles that need representation (Sambo, Jeet Kune Do, Kempo, etc.). Just some food for thought - lets hear what everyone has to say. There are many roads that lead to to the same path - be respectful...
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7/27/2012 4:54:17 PM |
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alphamate1906
Clifton, NJ
36, joined May. 2012
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I have to say jiu jitsu but I train bjj so I'm biased
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8/8/2012 1:30:44 AM |
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pings1
Yuba City, CA
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I hate to see this stupid question. OK you must be new to MMA. Don't vote on this just watch the 1st 10 or so UFC's. Lol your answer is BJJ... Aikido is a joke next time do not group it with Judo and JJ/BJJ.
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8/8/2012 6:13:27 PM |
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anamehere
Lilburn, GA
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I hate to see this stupid question. OK you must be new to MMA. Don't vote on this just watch the 1st 10 or so UFC's. Lol your answer is BJJ... Aikido is a joke next time do not group it with Judo and JJ/BJJ.
Yes, you're being so helpful and insightful here.
I bet you wear tap out shirts to the bar to watch ppv's, dontcha??
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8/8/2012 6:18:48 PM |
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pings1
Yuba City, CA
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You're right. I'm not like you who knows someone who knows someone.
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8/8/2012 6:24:26 PM |
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anamehere
Lilburn, GA
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No, you are not like me, not at all. You are being a d*ck here, then calling someone a d*ck in the next thread.
Yeah, I know people. I know fighters, I have trained, I know people that work for the UFC. I have also help run their websites for about 8 years.
You thought you were gonna call bullshit and it was simple to prove you wrong. You can't handle the fact that you misjudged. It's okay there killer, I forgive you.
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8/8/2012 6:44:10 PM |
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pings1
Yuba City, CA
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OK man think whatever you want to make yourself feel better. . I am sorry I didn't know, you know someone who knows someone. lol
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8/8/2012 7:04:37 PM |
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anamehere
Lilburn, GA
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Keep talking in circles tap out.
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8/9/2012 1:28:20 PM |
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viscaria
Tokyo
Japan
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The most effective system is MMA you better be good at everything if you intend to last long
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8/13/2012 12:29:10 AM |
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jgarc0511
Tolleson, AZ
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Unfortunately In MMA one system in itself is not effective. It's the combination of systems that makes a fighter either good or great. That said i think Boxing is the core system needed to succeed in MMA. With Brzlian Jujitsu as your secondary style a very close second behind boxing.
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8/19/2012 2:31:30 AM |
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uthad
Fresno, CA
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1.youre brain 2.bjj 3.mt 4.judo fighting is a game of chess . To say other wise shows you havent steped into a scrap let alone the ring nuff said!
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8/21/2012 8:34:21 PM |
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danmcdonough
Rosemount, MN
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Jui Jitsu combined with Muay Thai is a great combo. TKD (non-traditional) will help add power strike technique.
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8/28/2012 1:25:42 PM |
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shadowplayer
Philadelphia, PA
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i think as far as being a good fighter it is taking from diffent things n creating ur own wit it and my frist would be jeet kwon do fromless flow which teachs that theres no one way to win a fight. diffent styles have advantages and dis against others
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9/2/2012 8:09:29 AM |
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codelmjvg
Beaverton, OR
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Depends who utilizes the styles in there art blend together stronger and all relies on the fighter himself not the arts.
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9/5/2012 4:51:00 PM |
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new_dan
Rosemount, MN
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I've done all of those a fair amount with the exception of Kung Fu (I'd love to learn more Kung Fu for the opposite end of the spectrum - extreme soft style).
Of those, I'd have to say Muay Thai. Jiu Jitsu is a close 2nd. I wouldn't add Judo or Aikido in with it - they're different enough and wouldn't be a close 2nd.
3rd, I'd add non-traditional/American TKD (Korean). Many of the best standing fighters and kickboxers are TKD or Sport Karate stylists. They're very good with distance, timing, speed, and power.
If you were to pick for MMA, Jiu Jitsu/Muay Thai, with TKD training gives you a pretty good set of arsenal that's tough to beat.
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9/6/2012 7:02:52 AM |
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gamerman17
New York, NY
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I love Karate, but one system is effective if there's another system that can counter that. I honestly want to be a well rounded fighter........gamer
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11/10/2012 8:44:20 PM |
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celin2020
West Palm Beach, FL
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Bajiquan is a nice style, an effective technique.
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11/10/2012 11:10:51 PM |
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lastusername
Mill Valley, CA
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LoL, MT is winning. Boy, that says something about voters popular opinion, eh?
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11/10/2012 11:11:33 PM |
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lastusername
Mill Valley, CA
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I have to say jiu jitsu but I train bjj so I'm biased
No you don't, Liar!
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11/10/2012 11:17:55 PM |
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lastusername
Mill Valley, CA
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I hate to see this stupid question. OK you must be new to MMA. Don't vote on this just watch the 1st 10 or so UFC's. Lol your answer is BJJ... Aikido is a joke next time do not group it with Judo and JJ/BJJ.
You're new too, idiot!
You think K-Fu's or Karate's best artist actually fights in a octagon? That is how stupid you are.
You're a joke, Aikido wasn't designed for fighting in competition. A artist who is talented in Aikido lives a life without fear.. unlike you.
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11/10/2012 11:21:08 PM |
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lastusername
Mill Valley, CA
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Unfortunately In MMA one system in itself is not effective. It's the combination of systems that makes a fighter either good or great. That said i think Boxing is the core system needed to succeed in MMA. With Brzlia n Jujitsu as your secondary style a very close second behind boxing.
In mixed martial arts, one system is not effective.
MMA isn't one system...
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11/10/2012 11:25:35 PM |
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lastusername
Mill Valley, CA
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There are types of kung fu just like Karate, I study Wing Chun and beleive it to be the pound for pound and time spent in training best..... but kung fu translates roughly into Hard work and therefore I beleive anyone who spends time training in anything can be dangerous and the person who spends the most time training is going to have the edge..... but in the end, just run away to fight another day
How do you study it and learn anything....
Most of us that know a MA are taught by a instructor. Then our knowledge/performance is ranked by belt. We attend a class, at a location. Don't you?
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11/11/2012 12:43:49 AM |
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jhask184
Indianapolis, IN
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Wrestling
if you're an effective wrestler you can potential eliminate most of these styles except bjj but look at all the top guys right now there's some sort of wrestling background in all of them
GSP
JONES
HENDRICKS
KOSHCHECK
CAIN
CARWIN
SONNEN
HENDERSON
MUNOZ
The list goes on
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11/11/2012 1:30:47 AM |
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lastusername
Mill Valley, CA
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Wrestling
if you're an effective wrestler you can potential eliminate most of these styles except bjj but look at all the top guys right now there's some sort of wrestling background in all of them
GSP
JONES
HENDRICKS
KOSHCHECK
CAIN
CARWIN
SONNEN
HENDERSON
MUNOZ
The list goes on
Well spoken sir!
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11/11/2012 9:40:57 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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11/11/2012 10:54:30 PM |
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jkw0831
Santa Fe, TX
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for what ever its worth i have been involved in japanese martial arts for a period that has spanned 49 years in 2012 having trained in a number of styles including Karate Japanese okinowan and Korean also old style Judo Kanos Judo not sport Judo kito Ryu enshin ryu and having resurected an old sytem from the roots of enshinryu and kito ryu have developed a true mma system kyu-shin-ryu im amazed at how many experts there are or opinions I might say as it relates to mma allow me to share some history with many of you that seem to boast about your great knowledge of BJJ the Gracie family contacted the kodokan and asked for Judo instructors to teach the Judo Ne- waza so like many others they took what they were taught and made it their own the fact is that jujitsu and jujitsu style fighting has history to support its existince dating to 7 bc I assure all of you fans of MMA that what you think is MMA isnt and what you percieve to be JIU JITSU isnt what you have is a degeneration of a few techniques that have nothing to do with goshin jitsu which is in fact the basis of Jiu Jitsu period I dont know every thing but I have trained long enough and am a compotent enough student and master of an art system to know the difference think about ik kIds
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11/12/2012 12:40:04 AM |
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lastusername
Mill Valley, CA
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for what ever its worth i have been involved in japanese martial arts for a period that has spanned 49 years in 2012 having trained in a number of styles including Karate Japanese okinowan and Korean also old style Judo Kanos Judo not sport Judo kito Ryu enshin ryu and having resurected an old sytem from the roots of enshinryu and kito ryu have developed a true mma system kyu-shin-ryu im amazed at how many experts there are or opinions I might say as it relates to mma allow me to share some history with many of you that seem to boast about your great knowledge of BJJ the Gracie family contacted the kodokan and asked for Judo instructors to teach the Judo Ne- waza so like many others they took what they were taught and made it their own the fact is that jujitsu and jujitsu style fighting has history to support its existince dating to 7 bc I assure all of you fans of MMA that what you think is MMA isnt and what you percieve to be JIU JITSU isnt what you have is a degeneration of a few techniques that have nothing to do with goshin jitsu which is in fact the basis of Jiu Jitsu period I dont know every thing but I have trained long enough and am a compotent enough student and master of an art system to know the difference think about ik kIds
Have you ever trained in English spelling and grammar?
Where can you train in these Martial Arts styles that offers the students no belts so they can progress in rank??
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11/12/2012 11:02:26 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Most effective method: FREEZE MOFO OR DROP!!!
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11/15/2012 9:47:20 PM |
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cenvallguy
Visalia, CA
40, joined Dec. 2011
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Wrestling is most effective
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11/16/2012 5:56:13 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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All systems are effective if applied correctly.
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11/24/2012 1:24:29 PM |
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tariqism
Chicago, IL
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If your intention is to have monster energy drinks sponsor you or to win trophies and awards, I say all of the above.
A true practitioner of a TRUE martial art will avoid real life confrontations and do what ever needs to be done to stay alive in an unavoidable confrontation.
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11/25/2012 10:55:19 PM |
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lastusername
Mill Valley, CA
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If your intention is to have monster energy drinks sponsor you or to win trophies and awards, I say all of the above.
A true practitioner of a TRUE martial art will avoid real life confrontations and do what ever needs to be done to stay alive in an unavoidable confrontation.
Thank you... well spoken.
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11/26/2012 2:14:44 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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In "real life" a true master in any of the "arts" is not an aggressor. ... Think about it. ... They don't train to be aggressive.
Grasshopper.
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11/28/2012 12:16:43 AM |
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francodosantos
Stafford, TX
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My preference is Kali filipino martial art wich is the best system for self defense, if you Haven't herd of it look it up, some bjj n Thai kick boxing.
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11/28/2012 12:37:14 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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11/28/2012 9:21:44 PM |
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muscleturtle
Winterhaven, CA
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*Slowly oiling myself up*
OK Who wants to WRASSEL
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12/11/2012 2:47:41 AM |
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tuco_rodas
Brigham City, UT
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most effective due to its 8 point system.
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12/26/2012 3:08:54 PM |
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jayrough
Meriden, CT
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i think it should be broken into striking and grappling because i feel like you can be a great striker but if you happen to end up on the floor and you can't do shit what's your striking good for then and vice versa.
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12/27/2012 9:56:16 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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The 'most effective system' is still a loaded gun, and the ability to shoot straight........sorry OP....I am off-topic, aren't I? This is a thread about hand-to-hand, isn't it?
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1/4/2013 2:40:07 PM |
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riskybusinessii
Broadview, IL
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It does not matter what system one uses. The important thing is that person. Fighting is more than just learning techniques. It is about using the mind, body, and spirit together. Bruce Lee once said, "I do not fear the man who knows 100,000 techniques. I fear the man who has practiced the same technique 100,000 times."
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4/6/2013 3:29:34 PM |
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gamerman17
New York, NY
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If your intention is to have monster energy drinks sponsor you or to win trophies and awards, I say all of the above.
A true practitioner of a TRUE martial art will avoid real life confrontations and do what ever needs to be done to stay alive in an unavoidable confrontation.
Quoted for truth. The one will constantly seek of fighting only how off how insecure they are in that they constantly have ot prove themselves to others......gamer
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4/7/2013 7:55:45 PM |
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brennan222
Athens, GA
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I gotta say karate or Taekwondo is most effective cause it has mostly everything mixed into It I honestly prefer Taekwondo over all of it
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4/8/2013 3:13:55 AM |
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josecuervosilv
Downey, CA
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Like has been mentioned, the smarter brain system is the most effective system.
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5/4/2013 3:36:27 AM |
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dragonstar01
Kincolith, BC
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you missed gung fu. it combines all aspects. kung fu,also known as chinese boxing is mostly strikes. gung fu is ancestor to modern mma.
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5/5/2013 6:02:37 AM |
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jhask184
Indianapolis, IN
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Quoted for truth. The one will constantly seek of fighting only how off how insecure they are in that they constantly have ot prove themselves to others......gamer
Naw I want monster to sponsor me lol that'd be awesome
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7/27/2013 7:14:22 PM |
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gamerman17
New York, NY
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Like has been mentioned, the smarter brain system is the most effective system.
I concur. How you use one system's strength compared to another system's shortcoming and capitalizing on opening left by opponent determines success, not a system solely based on offense. Some people have to preconceived notion that you need to have a system that highly effective in offense to be the best fighter there is when there's always another system or technique that can nullify any strategy or tactic you can think of within your current system.....gamer
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7/30/2013 8:03:41 PM |
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sclawman
Spartanburg, SC
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I think style does not matter its the application of the student of the style.
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8/27/2013 8:35:26 PM |
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idothings
Tacoma, WA
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Submission/catch wrestling is great base. Unlike the slow methodical pace of jitz you're actively wrestling an oppenent, forcing them to constantly expell precious energy to defend themselves. All while trying to catch them in submissions. As for the take down aspect. Judos fantastic throws, although effective I feel aren't as explosive or have a high percentage success rate. Simply because of the experience I've had with judokas. They tend to try to counter rather than press forward and end up on their backs often. Yes I get it, Judo is the gentle way and it's supposed to be about using your opponents energy against him. Just don't think it's practical for the cage. At least at an amateur level. Pros pull of unorthodox shit all the time.
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8/27/2013 8:53:05 PM |
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idothings
Tacoma, WA
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Submission/catch wrestling is great base. Unlike the slow methodical pace of jitz you're actively wrestling an oppenent, forcing them to constantly expell precious energy to defend themselves. All while trying to catch them in submissions. As for the take down aspect. Judos fantastic throws, although effective I feel aren't as explosive or have a high percentage success rate. Simply because of the experience I've had with judokas. They tend to try to counter rather than press forward and end up on their backs often. Yes I get it, Judo is the gentle way and it's supposed to be about using your opponents energy against him. Just don't think it's practical for the cage. At least at an amateur level. Pros pull of unorthodox shit all the time.
Of course Muay Thai is the most effective striking system, period. It's hard nose in your face striking with fast powerful punches, kicks, knees and elbows. It's neither flashy nor fancy. It's to the point (winning the fight) the workouts are brutal, the mentality is brutal. The only reason I place it above boxing and kickboxing is the more weapons are utilized.
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8/29/2013 1:44:44 AM |
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ggmike123
Florence, SC
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All depends on a persons strengths. Me personaly, I'm a grappler so my best style would be BJJ or JJ, but a striker would be Muay Thai, imo... can't really say which is the best because each style has it's ups and downs alone just like every person has their strengths and weaknesses...
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9/15/2013 5:33:32 AM |
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gamerman17
New York, NY
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I think style does not matter its the application of the student of the style.
Very good point you've brought up regarding this matter. Some people are so focused on trying to find the so called "best style", they fail to realize their physical strengths and limitations to the said style. Without the right application to the said style to its full potential, all their opponent would have to do is strike strategically and tactically exploiting their weakness and possible their lack of understanding of the style where it hurts most. Also their dedication into learning the said style would also come into play as well......gamer
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9/21/2013 10:50:18 AM |
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victor1p
Terrebonne, OR
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People are forgetting that the martial arts is still evolving. While BJJ may have been at one time the dominant system, players such as Sakuraba & Matt Hughes demonstrates what happens when a Jujutsu stylist lacks basic clench skills from wrestling. Muy-Thai works great for certain body types such as Anderson & Aldos, but have you ever wonderd why Overeem or Barret can't quite hit those toe to toe skills with Dos Santos or Valasquez. It's really a game of who can catch who first & if you can make them play your game.
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9/23/2013 11:15:34 PM |
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dragonstar01
Kincolith, BC
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People are forgetting that the martial arts is still evolving. While BJJ may have been at one time the dominant system, players such as Sakuraba & Matt Hughes demonstrates what happens when a Jujutsu stylist lacks basic clench skills from wrestling. Muy-Thai works great for certain body types such as Anderson & Aldos, but have you ever wonderd why Overeem or Barret can't quite hit those toe to toe skills with Dos Santos or Valasquez. It's really a game of who can catch who first & if you can make them play your game.
i saw this japanimation flick years ago..."the grappler baki..." picture two champions from different disciplines facing off, yet they just stand there staring each other down... a spectator remarks to his teacher..."why are they not doing anything.. they are just standing there...!!" teacher says.... "they will wait for the other to make the first move..." student, "why??" teacher, "because the one who makes the first move is the one who will lose..."
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9/27/2013 5:54:38 PM |
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gamerman17
New York, NY
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People are forgetting that the martial arts is still evolving. While BJJ may have been at one time the dominant system, players such as Sakuraba & Matt Hughes demonstrates what happens when a Jujutsu stylist lacks basic clench skills from wrestling. Muy-Thai works great for certain body types such as Anderson & Aldos, but have you ever wonderd why Overeem or Barret can't quite hit those toe to toe skills with Dos Santos or Valasquez. It's really a game of who can catch who first & if you can make them play your game.
You can also call it a bit of strategy and tactical thinking as well, trying to outsmart your opponent and gaining the upper hand trying various techniques that a person who hasn't done their proper scouting might be caught off guard. I like BJJ and the concept behind it, but i like to read up on many other different types of styles so I can a better perspective on people's fighting choices. Other than that, this post is spot on......gamer
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