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8/17/2013 10:48:53 PM I need help on a horse...  

crazyredneckkid
Midland, TX
23, joined Jul. 2013


i have a 10 yr old rescue Appaloosa with a BAD
biting problem. he has 1 eye due to cancer he lost it 6 yrs ago. his original owner broke him of his biting problem when he was a colt...now hes WAY WORSE!!!! i NEED help!!!!! please and thank you!!!!!

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8/19/2013 9:03:29 PM I need help on a horse...  

cowgirl378
Merritt, BC
47, joined Aug. 2013


he bites because he is challenging you for the alpha spot take control back, work him in the round pen, make him respect your space...

8/21/2013 3:48:55 PM I need help on a horse...  

crazyredneckkid
Midland, TX
23, joined Jul. 2013


we did but we cant even halter him anymore its so bad!

8/21/2013 5:10:07 PM I need help on a horse...  
justcurious432
Midland, TX
36, joined May. 2013


Get a shot gun..... that will solve the problem!!!! With one eye and a biting problem and can't halter him anymore that's just a money pit shoot him or put him in the pasture and leave him be!!!

8/22/2013 11:12:12 AM I need help on a horse...  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (252,250)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


buy him a stable-mate: pygmy goat or Shetland pony


If he is biting --- is he also cribbing?

8/22/2013 10:25:42 PM I need help on a horse...  
hardtwist
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,061)
Surprise, NE
48, joined Jun. 2009


Put him down, before you or someone else gets hurt. There are to many good horses out there, to waste time on this one. I used to mess with rescue horses and these hobby horse people wreck to many good horses.

8/23/2013 4:37:37 PM I need help on a horse...  
pelipa
Mount Carmel, TN
49, joined Jun. 2013


I find it interesting that you say the previous owner cured this habit. Biting is not a habit to be cured. It is an act of aggression. This has nothing to do with his eye. He is not pitiful, useless, crazy, or mean. He is being a horse. He has won the dominate role in the relationship. He speaks the language of horse, and you are clueless to that language. Each time he issues a subtle cue in his language telling you he doesn't like something or he wants something you miss it, and he bites to get his point across. He won the battle for the leadership role from you in the beginning, and you didn't have a clue there was even a test. Horses are herd animals. In the herd each animal has a place in the pecking order. The more aggressive horses are the highest in the pecking order. They get the best grass. They drink first. In short they are the most likely to survive. This is the nature of the horse even if it isn't running wild. Any human who doesn't know how to recognize the challenges and earn respect does not need a horse. Respect isn't earned through pain. It is earned through the ability to stand your ground and win. We obviously can't do that by the same method as the horse, so we have to use our brains, too. You are in way over your head with this horse. You need professional help before you get seriously hurt. Find someone who can earn the dominate role without resorting to cruelty. A real horseman. The leader of the herd never says, "Please, do what I'm asking you." They never give treats to get what they want done. You don't have the know how to fix this. If you did, you wouldn't be in this position.

8/23/2013 10:53:14 PM I need help on a horse...  

dave3088
Piney Flats, TN
53, joined Aug. 2013


Put on a Glove covered with Cayenne Pepper , see how he likes that

8/28/2013 10:41:50 AM I need help on a horse...  
c2j2012
Holt, MI
36, joined Apr. 2013


Bite him back, right on the soft part of his muzzle. So, when he goes to bite, grab halter and bite back. Then go about your business like nothing jappened. He'll look at you like you've lost your mind, but I guarantee he'll think hard about biting next time. This has corrected biting in every young horse I have brought up.

8/29/2013 4:55:46 PM I need help on a horse...  

crazyredneckkid
Midland, TX
23, joined Jul. 2013


pelipa i knew he was doin the "test" and i have cured many other horses with biting problems. the deal the this horse is his previous owner did break him of biting when he started. then we got the horse back when the owner couldnt afford the get bills to get his eye removed. then when he was all cured with that these other people took him. they had him about 3 months when they said he was biting and kicking. i went out to see why he would be doing this and found out that they were beating hkim to move and while riding him they kicked him with spurs. i finally got help on taking him back in the rescue and hes been here since. and we have had a professional trainer work with him. Levi, the horse ended up trampling him while tryin to bite him on the first day. on the 2nd day he kicked at him and the trainer fixed him of kicking but he couldnt do anythin bout the biting. the trainer even tied him up and had a metal rod so ever time he tried biting he would get hit in the neck or face with the rod. and im a trainer i know how to cure it but its hareder with a 1 eyed rescue horse. ive trained all 16 of my horses. im not clueless.

8/29/2013 8:54:16 PM I need help on a horse...  
pelipa
Mount Carmel, TN
49, joined Jun. 2013


Sorry if I offended you. You didn't give a full account of the situation in your first post asking for help, and questions can only be answered based on the information provided. I still contend biting is not a habit to be broken. It is aggression. Obviously he has had a bad time of it and feels threatened enough that he attacks to protect himself. He is still dangerous. I care for a pony that was adopted from the wild by an ignorant person. He was left a stud and the guy tried to "break" him which means teaching him who is boss by any physical means necessary. Lol, pony won. He was left a stud, turned out and foundered, and became a terror. He attacked everyone who came near him by biting, kicking, pawed, you name it. He was protecting himself. I was able to work through most of these issues and eventually he was gelded at 6. Biting was a big problem. The biting, kicking, pawing weren't separate issues I fixed. The fix came by working him, and gaining control of his feet, and getting his respect while also showing him that giving to pressure gave him release. Aggressive behavior was met with correction not beating or other measures that made him feel threatened. He now stands for the farrier and vet. He can be haltered, led, groomed, etc. Due to the founder he can't be ridden or pull a cart. He still nips occasionally and if you behave in a threatening manner he will become aggressive and kick, paw, etc, but he accepts leadership, and can be handled safely. Again I apologize for any offense to you. Good luck with him.

8/29/2013 11:46:05 PM I need help on a horse...  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (252,250)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


get a set of mobile home steps to mount from

8/30/2013 10:02:43 PM I need help on a horse...  

crazyredneckkid
Midland, TX
23, joined Jul. 2013


u didnt offend me. well we contacted his previous owner and if he doesnt take him we'll have to end up putting him down right now hes pinned up in a roundpin alone and we just throw a round bale in bcuz we cant feed him

8/30/2013 10:20:26 PM I need help on a horse...  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (252,250)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


... If you have to put the horse down, OP --- don't walk away without a little cash in your pocket ... take the horse to the slaughter house ... they will buy the animal and then sell the carcass to the glue factory OR you could donate the horse meat to the local zoo.

8/30/2013 10:48:31 PM I need help on a horse...  
westtexastruckr
Midland, TX
29, joined Jan. 2013


Email me and I'll come fix the horse an show you how to take command and and understand what's going on with the horse

8/30/2013 11:16:50 PM I need help on a horse...  
pelipa
Mount Carmel, TN
49, joined Jun. 2013


I'm very sorry for the horse. There are no problem horses just horses that have been mishandled by problem people, and there are way too many of them in this world. You do an injustice to the horse by attempting to get the job done by pain and fear, but you do just as much damage by SAVING them with treats and pity. My current boss had a shoulder dislocated and a broken rib fixing a severely abused horse. Now his grand daughter rides and shows him. I watched a spoiled mare that had never had a hand raised to her in her life calculate and kick with both feet a previous boss of mine because she made the mare stand for a bridle path trimming. She broke two ribs. I had many severe bites and bruises myself while working with that pony. Both extremes are wrong and the horse ultimately pays the price. I'm hoping for a good outcome for the horse in this case.

8/31/2013 11:05:40 AM I need help on a horse...  

crazyredneckkid
Midland, TX
23, joined Jul. 2013


he has kicked me and broke 3 ribs but hes perfect when ur riding him as long as no other boy horse is right by him. its gettin him. he has had a professional work with him but the man had to stop cuz Levi, the horse trampled him while tryin to bite him. the trainer fractured his skull and his collar bone. we have put a grazing muzzle on him but it tears it off

8/31/2013 2:46:55 PM I need help on a horse...  
mysterydrifter2
Over 1,000 Posts (1,263)
Denton, TX
98, joined Jan. 2012


I would be leery of it. I remember a horse we once had that was nice and rode fairly well. The problem was, that whenever anyone went to mount him, he would stand there very calm until you got your food in the stirrup to mount and was halfway up. THEN, he would take off bucking and trying to drag the rider.

We had on old country traveling vet who would always bring us a cantaloupe or watermelon during his house calls. He was there for another horse visit one day and I told him about this horse. He asked to look at it and came back and told my day, that he strongly recommended getting rid of it. He said he could tell by looking in this horse's eyes that he was crazy and WILL try and kill someone one day. (People can be mentally ill, there is no reason an animal can't be either..) Rumor got out and more than one rodeo circuit riders came from different states wanting to ride him (crazy bunch of guys!). Since he knew horses since a child, and studied horses and veterinary, we sold it.

Many people have their own different, and preferred, techniques. I believe in Round Pen training. I believe in "time out" just like a child. I believe in loving and whispering to a horse and in treats. When it comes to treats though, they are for Rewarding Good Behavior and NOT to show submission unto that horse. Sometimes I have had to strike a horse, but I always try to make it understand then "rub" the hurt out where it was struck. It is true, horses are herd animals. You shouldn't show fear, but you MUST respect what they can do to you and reward for good behavior.

However, if your horse continues to harm people as you describe, even with all the "experts" failing, I may strongly consider disposal for your safety.... JMO

9/1/2013 2:27:53 PM I need help on a horse...  
hardtwist
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,061)
Surprise, NE
48, joined Jun. 2009


Quote from crazyredneckkid:
he has kicked me and broke 3 ribs but hes perfect when ur riding him as long as no other boy horse is right by him. its gettin him. he has had a professional work with him but the man had to stop cuz Levi, the horse trampled him while tryin to bite him. the trainer fractured his skull and his collar bone. we have put a grazing muzzle on him but it tears it off





I've been involved with horses from birth. Sofar I've rescued several horses and have had to break some of their bad habits. I wouldn't waste one more feeding on a one eyed renegade...especially an 11 year old one. As many good horses are available, why do you continually risk injury to people by keeping him alive?



My user name "hardtwist" is after the famous quarter horse. My dads brood mares were grand daughters of hardtwist. Tough horses and some are bad. I picked up a double bred hardtwist and he's a disrespectful bastard. He refuses to respect women. If a woman approaches him, he'll shove them away with his head. It seems the only one he does respect is me. The only reason I put up with him is because, smooth gaited and a born cow horse. I do plan on using him in ranch horse competition. I'm careful who's around him but, I'm not seeing your horses redeemable qualities.

9/1/2013 9:37:29 PM I need help on a horse...  

crazyredneckkid
Midland, TX
23, joined Jul. 2013


hardwtist i have a mare like him but she only pushes away other horses and run them off. that horse is fancy and i have a wetsern pleasure horse named sabor that doesnt like guys as much as he like girls.

and about levi...im goin to call his original owner and if he doesnt awnser of want him levi will be put down...its for his own good

9/2/2013 12:28:42 PM I need help on a horse...  
mysterydrifter2
Over 1,000 Posts (1,263)
Denton, TX
98, joined Jan. 2012


I am really impressed with those special bonds between some horses and a particular person. I have a friend out in NM who raises and trains Arabians. She has this one stud who is also a Western Pleasure Show Champion. She said he does not like any men and never has. However, from the first moment I met him, we kinda had this "whisper" thing going on and both were using some "body language" during our "introduction". From that moment on, he will run across the pasture to greet me and tuck his head under my arm. Then he wants me to command him to do his several tricks he likes to do. And he is always wanting to learn more! Seems he just loves to perform... Now he is the primary horse I ride on our trail rides. When she witnessed how he immediately bonded with me, her chin about hit the ground and just said, "I can't believe what I am seeing"! (I have to admit, it can just be plain flattering sometimes when they just steal your heart away....)

I do have to agree with others above. It sounds like this horse with the problem should either be put down, or given to someone with a large pasture where it can maybe "retire" by himself if, the owner wants it alive. Otherwise, he may well be a Liability that could bring on a lawsuit for damages some day. I would certainly have anyone who wants to "assume the risk" in trying to "deal with him", sign a Waiver / Release upfront... Best of luck on yall's decision.

9/2/2013 8:04:38 PM I need help on a horse...  

crazyredneckkid
Midland, TX
23, joined Jul. 2013


mysterydrifter2
im training my Arabian right now and we have a great bond! her name is SS Alya's Windy Emage. she'll put her head over my shoulder and press on my back and if i hug her she'll lift 1 leg and literally wrap my with that leg lol shes huggin me back!!! i love her soo much and she loves me!!!

9/4/2013 4:49:37 PM I need help on a horse...  
mysterydrifter2
Over 1,000 Posts (1,263)
Denton, TX
98, joined Jan. 2012


Let us know how ol "One Eye" turns out; the decision.... I really do wish him the best in his life.

9/4/2013 7:06:44 PM I need help on a horse...  
red593
Roanoke, AL
29, joined Aug. 2013


Lay I'm down an then rub all over him

9/5/2013 5:31:25 PM I need help on a horse...  

crazyredneckkid
Midland, TX
23, joined Jul. 2013


Let us know how ol "One Eye" turns out; the decision.... I really do wish him the best in his life.

thats exactly what we call him!! lol instead of Levi we call him ol One Eye Appy

9/6/2013 10:40:56 AM I need help on a horse...  
mysterydrifter2
Over 1,000 Posts (1,263)
Denton, TX
98, joined Jan. 2012


Quote from crazyredneckkid:
we call him ol One Eye Appy


Well geeze, no wonder he has anger issues! Wouldn't you? Ain't that kinda like rubbing salt into a wound? (Ok...my bad. )

9/7/2013 5:39:37 AM I need help on a horse...  
nothingisreal
Over 2,000 Posts (2,947)
Harrison, MI
62, joined Jul. 2013


I've have/had 2 different horses.1 was
totally blind the other only 1 eye.To
watch either race,you'd never would know
of there eye problems.Just saying because
a horse is blind or has 1 eye,don't give
up until they give up themselves.A horse of
this caliber needs special attention,it starts
with trust.

9/7/2013 9:25:22 PM I need help on a horse...  

crazyredneckkid
Midland, TX
23, joined Jul. 2013


mysterydrifter2 he kinda deserved that name lol

9/8/2013 9:09:20 PM I need help on a horse...  
mysterydrifter2
Over 1,000 Posts (1,263)
Denton, TX
98, joined Jan. 2012


Sounds like he deserved worse than that! Along the lines of what red593 said about rubbing, while I never like striking a horse, SOMETIMES they need to be struck (despite what many others might say). However, afterwards I try to scold (mostly tone of voice but some body language), then I like to "rub" the hurt out of where I struck them to show them they are still loved. Kind of builds a bond. You know, kinda like a little kid, BUT, the horse never grows up to ask for your car keys on a Friday night!

9/9/2013 8:34:00 PM I need help on a horse...  
missanimallover
Madison, ME
35, joined Sep. 2013


In my humble opinion it sounds to me that his aggression is brought on by fear and possible pain. I have retrained rescues and some bad cases but I have to agree that at 11 to fix him of it is a long shot.
Sometimes it's doing the best for the horse not what we as humans think is best for us. Again...just my humble opinion.

10/5/2013 2:07:57 AM I need help on a horse...  

guy3948
New Caney, TX
47, joined Aug. 2011


When a horse bites its because he is trying to force dominance upon you. You have to take that dominance back. I suggest a quirt or some type of whip. Every time he even thinks of biting you pop him with it and blow up make a big deal of it. The second he backs off you back off. When he figures out that you will release you're aggression when he quits biting then he will be trained not to bite. Biting is not a habit for a horse. It is a natural way of establishing a pecking order in the herd. You have to be dominant at all times. Any other questions feel free to ask.

10/5/2013 11:32:10 AM I need help on a horse...  
anne17w
Kingsville, TX
59, joined Sep. 2013


How long have you had the horse. Thd first thing I would do would give him some time out in the pasture to relax him.

10/7/2013 9:11:43 AM I need help on a horse...  

chicano1313
Anaheim, CA
98, joined Jul. 2013


Ask the previous owner how he got him to stop biteing.

10/12/2013 12:43:47 AM I need help on a horse...  
noncheatersonly
Claypool, AZ
56, joined Sep. 2013


You said it.and my input, STOP FEEDING TREATS by hand!!! Is this horse gelded??

10/13/2013 6:16:22 PM I need help on a horse...  

horseman0180
Minerva, OH
36, joined Jun. 2013


Many reasons cause biting it could be anger or mal nutrition he may even have ulcers. Try giving him a calcium supplement and see if that helps calm his nerves.

10/24/2013 8:24:51 PM I need help on a horse...  

shelby444
Tecumseh, OK
23, joined Sep. 2013


My grandfather told me he had a horse that would bite all the time till one day he grabbed the horse and bit it on the nose so hard the horse never bit anyone again.
Try biting your horses nose on the soft part of it's nose and see if it works.

10/24/2013 9:39:13 PM I need help on a horse...  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (252,250)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Hitting a horse with a quirt (crop) as a form of punishment will lead to a worse condition called "wild eye" ... does your horse crib, too?

10/25/2013 8:23:22 AM I need help on a horse...  
nothingisreal
Over 2,000 Posts (2,947)
Harrison, MI
62, joined Jul. 2013


I believe not 100% sure the OP has
put the horse down.

10/28/2013 5:33:17 PM I need help on a horse...  

shatteredbby
Potosi, MO
43, joined Jan. 2011


If you cannot get close do not put him down!a one eyed horse can no longer have accurate depth perception in lamens terms so stall him and work on just the side he can see from.if you would like to know how please feel free to contact me..i am a rescue.

11/6/2013 10:51:51 PM I need help on a horse...  

mira51211
Walkersville, MD
34, joined Sep. 2013


I got rescues blind rescues to be honest the one was beaten blind so I would expect him to be nasty but with a little bit of efforts and pations I gain his trust and respect . I don't care if ur a trainer or not you gotta use common sence and learn how to understand the language of a horse to find out what's wrong and a metal rod is deffiantly not the way to go some one should take your certification and the trainer that came up with that idea . You gotta gain his trust and at the same time become the leader of the herd right now you are on the lower end of the herd and he runs u . It also sounds like you are afraid of him which he knows and uses that against u .

11/9/2013 6:50:42 PM I need help on a horse...  
hardtwist
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,061)
Surprise, NE
48, joined Jun. 2009


I really have to laugh about the emotional advice, given to the OP!lol


Here's a damn fact: All horses can't be saved. Some are genuine renegades. Period.

Leads to a condition called "wild eye"?!lmao Startle a horse, they all have wild eyes!lol
Methinks ya mean head shy.


I just thinned the herd here. One of the new rescue horses was just that. Pure, honest renegade. He would try to kick you when dismounting. If you cheeked him around, he would bite you. Blood test, complete psyical, nothing wrong. Pasture bully. He rammed and jammed all day. Made it a point to attack the lead mare daily.



I know what wrecked this horse. An la la, nitwit that believe in the mystical powers of horses!lol Yes, one of those people that let the horse run them. The bastard was spoiled to the point of no return. Good looking, well bred horse but, wrecked by a bunch of idiots that know nothing about horses.

Some people need killing, that's why we have the death penalty. Some horses have been wrecked and are beyond help. He's probably in Canada by now. Good riddance.

Here's a little history lesson: horses are an invasive species. The Spaniards introduced them to this continent. Horses are also a prey animal. Eyes to the side of their heads, swing their heads side to side, so they can keep track of what might be sneaking up on them. Native Americans still eat horses. Yes, not only a means of travel and beast of burden, they were/still are a FOOD SOURCE.

This emotional nonsense about horses has caused suffering. People dumping horses off. Outright neglect, when money runs tight. Good job animal rights Nazis.

11/10/2013 6:52:12 PM I need help on a horse...  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (252,250)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


"Leads to a condition called "wild eye"?!lmao Startle a horse, they all have wild eyes!lol
Methinks ya mean head shy."



Hardtwist

It doesn't matter what you think ... it's what I know and what I said --- don't try to think for me --- okay, sweetie?

11/10/2013 10:29:30 PM I need help on a horse...  
hardtwist
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (14,061)
Surprise, NE
48, joined Jun. 2009


Quote from cupocheer:
"Leads to a condition called "wild eye"?!lmao Startle a horse, they all have wild eyes!lol
Methinks ya mean head shy."



Hardtwist

It doesn't matter what you think ... it's what I know and what I said --- don't try to think for me --- okay, sweetie?





Of course it matters. You seem to be an expert on...everything. Wild eye is an unheard of condition. Sounds like something a believer of equine mysticism would say.js

Wasn't thinking for you. Trying to decode the nonsense. BTFW I'm not your sweetie, got it?

12/5/2013 11:34:52 AM I need help on a horse...  

countrymom321
The Colony, TX
28, joined Mar. 2012


Bite him back grab his ear lower his head and bite...show him ur dominant!

12/22/2013 1:54:08 AM I need help on a horse...  

hollywoodjack86
Afton, TN
37, joined Jul. 2013


Run a chain shank thew his mouth and go from their

12/29/2013 1:30:12 PM I need help on a horse...  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (252,250)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


back the horse up to a set of outdoor steps and mount just like you would from a mounting block ... of course you could try putting your foot in the stirrup

1/7/2014 10:53:52 AM I need help on a horse...  

stang6
Middleburg, FL
45, joined Sep. 2013


You dont need to show aggression just firmness have you ever noticed the bump under the bottom jaw near the the chin. that is a pressure spot and doesnt need to be hit hard but jental as you would a small child and little more each time to let him know your not backing down. you are haveing a stand off with him. when bumping that spot push up till he moves back. if he pauses then step back and let him think of that - see if his lips move back and forth

1/13/2014 11:34:43 AM I need help on a horse...  

artist820
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,463)
Tehachapi, CA
60, joined Jan. 2013


Quote from pelipa:
I find it interesting that you say the previous owner cured this habit. Biting is not a habit to be cured. It is an act of aggression. This has nothing to do with his eye. He is not pitiful, useless, crazy, or mean. He is being a horse. He has won the dominate role in the relationship. He speaks the language of horse, and you are clueless to that language. Each time he issues a subtle cue in his language telling you he doesn't like something or he wants something you miss it, and he bites to get his point across. He won the battle for the leadership role from you in the beginning, and you didn't have a clue there was even a test. Horses are herd animals. In the herd each animal has a place in the pecking order. The more aggressive horses are the highest in the pecking order. They get the best grass. They drink first. In short they are the most likely to survive. This is the nature of the horse even if it isn't running wild. Any human who doesn't know how to recognize the challenges and earn respect does not need a horse. Respect isn't earned through pain. It is earned through the ability to stand your ground and win. We obviously can't do that by the same method as the horse, so we have to use our brains, too. You are in way over your head with this horse. You need professional help before you get seriously hurt. Find someone who can earn the dominate role without resorting to cruelty. A real horseman. The leader of the herd never says, "Please, do what I'm asking you." They never give treats to get what they want done. You don't have the know how to fix this. If you did, you wouldn't be in this position.
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1/13/2014 11:36:25 AM I need help on a horse...  

artist820
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,463)
Tehachapi, CA
60, joined Jan. 2013


Quote from c2j2012:
Bite him back, right on the soft part of his muzzle. So, when he goes to bite, grab halter and bite back. Then go about your business like nothing jappened. He'll look at you like you've lost your mind, but I guarantee he'll think hard about biting next time. This has corrected biting in every young horse I have brought up.
wow

1/26/2014 10:51:58 AM I need help on a horse...  

safeamerica
Over 1,000 Posts (1,600)
Lexington, KY
52, joined Dec. 2013


The horse might have a spirit in him.demon spirits will be mean and they enjoy being in animals-A few things you can do-is keep horse healthy,keep horse clean,do not be mean to the horse give the horse plenty of love as much as possible-Spirits love germs,dirt,and hate love,kindness--keep the horse stall clean as possible. disenfectent use on walls of stable etc..- helps-and use of Garlic concentrated spray-out side of horse stables.Garlic kills germs and yeast-spirits hate garlic-Mix with water from kitchen-garlic powder-in a spray bottle with water-and also Pray-to Jehovah God through Jesus Christ name to keep spirits out of the horse.Plus be carefull of who is around you and your animals-KKK are demon worship people non legal religion and people in america-when here,animals and people get poezest with demons.There's your sign.when one person can have many spirits in them-same with animals-if there is one spirit there will be more.They never travel alone.from person to person and KKK use demons in their crimes to control people.etc...

1/28/2014 10:12:52 PM I need help on a horse...  

candykisses509
Liberty, MO
60, joined Apr. 2012


you have to do alot of ground work with him you have to show him you are in control and he is not

1/29/2014 1:05:34 PM I need help on a horse...  
sweaty_butcheex
Dum Dum
India
31, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from candykisses509:
you have to do alot of ground work with him you have to show him you are in control and he is not






1/30/2014 11:23:01 PM I need help on a horse...  
nothingisreal
Over 2,000 Posts (2,947)
Harrison, MI
62, joined Jul. 2013


I believe the OP had put down this horse.

2/3/2014 11:44:51 AM I need help on a horse...  
shirley_annp
West Fork, AR
44, joined Sep. 2013


I understand the reason that so many people flip if they THINK something is abusive to a horse. But if you watch them with other horses, you will see quickly that there cant be a middle ground for this type of thing. Horses establish diminance in ways that fairly easily kill a person. This is a 1200 lb animal that lives by instincts. Lead mare ir mama would kick the shit out of thrm for that behaviour. If continued, they are pushed out of the herd. Don't be mean to be the boss, but do what is necessary. Biting a horse on the nose that bites, is just asking for facial scars. Try an elbow to the nose. That makes them think.

2/3/2014 6:56:48 PM I need help on a horse...  

luckylouie42
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,992)
Cedar Grove, WV
74, joined Mar. 2008


never trust that horse. sell him,

2/3/2014 9:38:56 PM I need help on a horse...  
nothingisreal
Over 2,000 Posts (2,947)
Harrison, MI
62, joined Jul. 2013


She put the horse down.

2/5/2014 10:23:27 PM I need help on a horse...  
tessarella6844
Orem, UT
48, joined Oct. 2013


Quote from hardtwist:
Put him down, before you or someone else gets hurt. There are to many good horses out there, to waste time on this one. I used to mess with rescue horses and these hobby horse people wreck to many good horses.



This
He will eventually hurt someone.

2/24/2014 4:00:55 AM I need help on a horse...  

saddestangel7
Over 2,000 Posts (3,774)
Santa Clara, CA
55, joined Apr. 2011


I've seen different levels of this problem. The worst being owned by a friend and he had to go to the glue factory because he was flat out dangerous.

Most others can be worked with and it takes time and patience. You need someone very experience to halter him then the work can begin. I'd put a stud chain on him to get his attention when he tries to take a nip. I've owned stallions and they often will try to take a nibble while leading them. A pop on the stud chain reminds them who is boss. Then get them on the lunge line for a good work out but have a long whip to help keep space between you.

Maybe this horse is proud cut too which can account for the behavior also.

Make sure once he's haltered, been exercised that you, if possible cross time him, and spend a good amount of time grooming him and touching him all over his body. Try doing this everyday. He should improve. Like I said it does take time and patience.

2/24/2014 9:23:55 PM I need help on a horse...  
nothingisreal
Over 2,000 Posts (2,947)
Harrison, MI
62, joined Jul. 2013


This horse is no longer alive

2/27/2014 12:15:54 AM I need help on a horse...  
tessarella6844
Orem, UT
48, joined Oct. 2013


I watched a Buck Brannaman documentary, in which a women brought him a horse with a bad biting problem. The horse in the documentary would charge at times also, very good at catching people off guard. Bucks suggestion was to get rid of the animal ASAP before he hurt someone. Buck stated that for whatever reason horse can become psychologically messed up though abuse, spoiling, fear or whatever else, and that keeping the horse wasn't worth the risks.