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8/24/2013 5:35:39 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Maybe there are other military widows like me?
I would like to find someone again after being married 43 years to a military man who retired, then passed in 2008, but (unless I marry another retired military man) I would lose my military spouse/widow's medical care, commissary and PX privileges and other base privileges, making it impossible to survive financially. I do OK now, but would not be ok if that happened.

So my only chance to not be alone is to find a military retired guy who is happy to find a gal who has experience being "committed" to one guy. I think I know how to be a good wife.

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8/25/2013 10:09:12 AM Retired Military ONLY  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (269,281)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Trey the Military Veteran forum ---- maybe you will find what you 'deserve' there.


BTW OP --- What a pathetic story.

8/25/2013 10:09:33 AM Retired Military ONLY  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (269,281)
Assumption, IL
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8/25/2013 10:36:26 AM Retired Military ONLY  
binbasha
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,933)
Pittsfield, IL
62, joined Jun. 2009


there will be more nd more comment of we get too much.. remember in the 90's and how clinton wanted to further balance his budget with an inclusion of our pay towards social security but excluding us from the pay. well justice was done and we are still elgible for the pay.. now they go changing the tricare and other medical systems like a shell game.. still really havent changed anything but they can say they "looked at it hard" we a a block of voters would have gone back to court with them and they know it... family rights are probably the most important part of the deal.. wives never got to develop in their jobs moved alot..kids changed school every couple years... made us strong but they didnt develope the roots and reinforced living rights that come with a home territory.. now have no wife.. and i wonder how some of these women make it... be good and pray it will be answered..

8/25/2013 1:11:26 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from cupocheer:
Trey the Military Veteran forum ---- maybe you will find what you 'deserve' there.


BTW OP --- What a pathetic story.

You don't even know the WORST PART. I lose health care if I remarry, but I am now losing just under $900 a month, EVERY MONTH, that I AM NOT REMARRIED!
They passed a preposterous new rule that now requires me to REMARRY to collect the "survivors benefit insurance" that my late husband paid premiums into FOR TWENTY YEARS for Me to get HALF his retired pay after he died!
Congress calls it the "military widows tax", cause it only applies to military, not other Federal employee widows.

I am NOT LOOKING FOR ANYBODY's PITY. (Which, by the way, you lack, let alone any understanding or even courtesy.)
Some question WHY someone would limit their search for a mate to military retirees and I don't play games, but state my good reasons why up front.
I am simply acting logically, with COMMON SENSE, to promote my own, and my future mate's best interests. SOME MEN appreciate a mate with a good financial head on her shoulders.

Limiting one's search "pool" for a mate by ANY criteria (proximity, religion,political leanings, appearance, interests etc) dramatically lessens one's chances of finding a mate at all, UNLESS the people involved KNOW, as I do, that LOVE IS WHAT YOU DO, not how you "feel". If you TREAT someone with love long enough, then THE "FEELINGS" will develop and follow! I KNOW, because I (and my late husband ) DID IT! We married as virtual strangers, after 3 dates, knew each other 9 days before the wedding and remained happily married for 44+ years. We "fell in love" AFTER we had been married over a year.

8/25/2013 1:33:34 PM Retired Military ONLY  

newlady2
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (42,595)
Goldsboro, NC
78, joined Apr. 2008


Exuse me a moment----- just wondered if yu and husband paid into SBP ??



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8/25/2013 1:45:05 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from newlady2:
Exuse me a moment----- just wondered if yu and husband paid into SBP ??



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YES. For over 20 years.

8/25/2013 1:45:36 PM Retired Military ONLY  

august_lady_bug
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (61,679)
Dallas, TX
62, joined Feb. 2012


Quote from oldlady4oldman:
You don't even know the WORST PART. I lose health care if I remarry, but I am now losing just under $900 a month, EVERY MONTH, that I AM NOT REMARRIED!
They passed a preposterous new rule that now requires me to REMARRY to collect the "survivors benefit insurance" that my late husband paid premiums into FOR TWENTY YEARS for Me to get HALF his retired pay after he died!
Congress calls it the "military widows tax", cause it only applies to military, not other Federal employee widows.

I am NOT LOOKING FOR ANYBODY's PITY. (Which, by the way, you lack, let alone any understanding or even courtesy.)
Some question WHY someone would limit their search for a mate to military retirees and I don't play games, but state my good reasons why up front.
I am simply acting logically, with COMMON SENSE, to promote my own, and my future mate's best interests. SOME MEN appreciate a mate with a good financial head on her shoulders.

Limiting one's search "pool" for a mate by ANY criteria (proximity, religion,political leanings, appearance, interests etc) dramatically lessens one's chances of finding a mate at all, UNLESS the people involved KNOW, as I do, that LOVE IS WHAT YOU DO, not how you "feel". If you TREAT someone with love long enough, then THE "FEELINGS" will develop and follow! I KNOW, because I (and my late husband ) DID IT! We married as virtual strangers, after 3 dates, knew each other 9 days before the wedding and remained happily married for 44+ years. We "fell in love" AFTER we had been married over a year.


I think the laws on that have changed within the last couple of years. I am also a retired military widow...and after age 57 I am able to marry anyone and keep my finances and other benefits, such as insurance. You should talk to a Vet's counselor about the new laws.



[Edited 8/25/2013 1:46:46 PM ]

8/25/2013 1:59:29 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from august_lady_bug:
I think the laws on that have changed within the last couple of years. I am also a retired military widow...and after age 57 I am able to marry anyone and keep my finances and other benefits, such as insurance. You should talk to a Vet's counselor about the new laws.


NOT ACCORDING TO TRICARE: http://blogs.militarytimes.com/tricarehelp/tag/widow/
June 3, 2013
I’m retired Navy and 90 years old. I lost my first wife after 62 years and have since remarried. My wife and I are both registered with DEERS and presently covered with Tricare for Life. My question: When I pass on, will my wife still be covered by Tricare for Life?
Yes. Survivors of military retirees remain eligible for Tricare, with all the same health plan options and costs they had before their sponsor passed away. They remain eligible indefinitely, with one caveat: they would lose their Tricare eligibility if they remarried, and eligibility could not be restored even if the subsequent marriage were to end in death or divorce.
So, if you pass away before your wife, she would indeed remain eligible for Tricare for Life as long as she did not remarry, and as long as she remained enrolled in Medicare Part B and paid the Part B monthly premiums.
Tags: Tricare For Life, widow




[Edited 8/25/2013 2:01:35 PM ]

8/25/2013 2:04:06 PM Retired Military ONLY  
bub049
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (17,297)
Minneapolis, MN
70, joined Oct. 2010


I am sorry you got "treated" to cupocheer's acid tongue and nasty attitude so soon. Many of us here have blocked her for her comments. I hope you find what you are looking for!

best of luck in your search!

8/25/2013 2:12:37 PM Retired Military ONLY  

august_lady_bug
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (61,679)
Dallas, TX
62, joined Feb. 2012


Quote from oldlady4oldman:


I learned it from the VARO...maybe I need to do further research on this.

8/25/2013 2:37:34 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from august_lady_bug:
I learned it from the VARO...maybe I need to do further research on this.


Not only can you lose VA benefits as the surviving spouse of a military Vet if you remarry, BUT YOU CAN LOSE BENEFITS IF SOMEONE REPORTS YOU LIVING TOGETHER in an "inferred" marital relationship!
They assert the right to stop benefits EVEN IF A COURT RULES YOU ARE NOT MARRIED!,They say HERE: http://www.benefits.va.gov/WARMS/docs/admin21/m21_1/mr/part4/subptiii/ch03/pt04_sp03_ch03_secF.doc

8/25/2013 2:50:40 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


You lose TRICARE, COMMISSARY, BX, and all base privileges (even if the marriage is after age 57) but you keep DIC AND OR SBP payments.

If you ARE NOT GETTING DIC you lose all access to medical care by remarrying. Only If you are getting DIC you can switch to CHAMPUS when you lose TRICARE, (i am pretty sure, but not positive)

8/25/2013 2:57:22 PM Retired Military ONLY  

lilbritches39
Over 1,000 Posts (1,438)
Marshfield, MO
73, joined Feb. 2013


I won't be nasty like Cheer but maybe you should try the Military Veterans Forum. Surely they would know more than most of us here.

Sorry you are between a rock and a hard spot......

8/25/2013 2:59:58 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Almost all the posters on the military forum are YOUNG vets.

8/25/2013 3:05:57 PM Retired Military ONLY  

morles
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (33,449)
San Antonio, TX
73, joined Nov. 2007


I like this Thread....Nobody should get Married...

8/25/2013 3:15:28 PM Retired Military ONLY  

lilbritches39
Over 1,000 Posts (1,438)
Marshfield, MO
73, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from morles:
I like this Thread....Nobody should get Married...






What about that promise you made to me

We weregoing to ride the train together.............














8/25/2013 3:16:42 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from morles:
I like this Thread....Nobody should get Married...

Not without KNOWING what can be known of what they are getting into.
After age 60, most people should be smarter than to ignore common sense and make life decisions based exclusively according to what their emotions or their genitals want .



[Edited 8/25/2013 3:18:50 PM ]

8/25/2013 3:44:42 PM Retired Military ONLY  

newlady2
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (42,595)
Goldsboro, NC
78, joined Apr. 2008


After age 65 a spouse cannot use a military hospital-- has to be civilian!!!


Except for meds from pharmacy..!!

8/25/2013 3:48:01 PM Retired Military ONLY  

bier95
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,740)
Clara City, MN
66, joined May. 2011


There are a lot of 60+ Vets in the Vets Forum

8/25/2013 3:50:58 PM Retired Military ONLY  

newlady2
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (42,595)
Goldsboro, NC
78, joined Apr. 2008


Oh now I get it.. Morles just likes to be a *Tester* VBG

8/25/2013 4:47:31 PM Retired Military ONLY  
sweetate2
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,241)
Albion, IN
67, joined Jul. 2013


Good luck OP and I hope it all turns out well for you...

8/25/2013 4:49:52 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from newlady2:
After age 65 a spouse cannot use a military hospital-- has to be civilian!!!


Except for meds from pharmacy..!!


I'm sorry but you are incorrect. My PRIMARY CARE physician is at Madigan Army Hospital and I have been hospitalized there several times since age 65.

BTW, I am not looking for information or sympathy, I am looking for an single, retired, military man, as are many other retired military widows. I lived the life and appreciate what men who put their whole life into service have sacrificed.

8/25/2013 5:05:03 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Space available (limited number allowed to enroll) Medical care for retirees with Medicare and TRICARE for LIFE in a military hospital is available under the "TRICARE PLUS" program.

I AM IN THAT PROGRAM,

8/25/2013 5:17:32 PM Retired Military ONLY  
gentlebear1949
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (28,724)
Apple Creek, OH
67, joined Jul. 2008


Quote from morles:
I like this Thread....Nobody should get Married...


Marriage is like an alarm clock,

You get a ring,then you wake up...........

8/25/2013 5:24:57 PM Retired Military ONLY  

cowboy4672
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,195)
Lillian, AL
70, joined Dec. 2012


Marriage is a Three ring Circus:



Engagement ring




Wedding ring






Sufferring

8/25/2013 5:35:48 PM Retired Military ONLY  

newlady2
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (42,595)
Goldsboro, NC
78, joined Apr. 2008


Yu can say I am wrong till the cows come home but it happened to me and I work in th military hospital..

8/25/2013 5:37:35 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from gentlebear1949:
Marriage is like an alarm clock,

You get a ring,then you wake up...........

Unless I misunderstand you, I see you as disappointed that you didn't GET what you expected to "get" by marrying.

THAT IS WHERE WE DIFFER.

I don't expect to "get" anything with the ring except for the chance to BUILD SOMETHING WONDERFUL with another, different person, like I did before. I intend to MAKE my and my new love's life a good and happy one by what I DO, and hope to find a guy who thinks the same way. Love is what you do, in my book, the way you talk with respect to each other, deferring to the other's wishes, each sacrificing and wanting the other to be happy. You don't have to worry about looking out for old #1 if you both have a spouses that put the other first.

8/25/2013 5:50:51 PM Retired Military ONLY  

altje
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,706)
Kernersville, NC
77, joined Jun. 2008


OP, I like the way you think about love and relationships!

8/25/2013 5:57:45 PM Retired Military ONLY  
oldlady4oldman
Tacoma, WA
98, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from cowboy4672:
Marriage is a Three ring Circus:

Engagement ring

Wedding ring

Sufferring


what can I say? Some people are happier alone. More power to them.
I am not one of them. I feel like half a person without a husband to help, and love and share with, and take care of, and explore this world. I need someone to bring out the best in me and with whom we are much more than we could be separately. More prosperous, adventurous, more courageous, wiser, more successful, productive,secure, compassionate,responsible and happier together than alone. I'm "dying on the vine" alone since 2008.



[Edited 8/25/2013 6:00:22 PM ]

8/25/2013 6:03:30 PM Retired Military ONLY  

newlady2
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (42,595)
Goldsboro, NC
78, joined Apr. 2008


*G Cowboy yu just wait fella --------