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3/23/2014 1:59:29 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


1. yes
2. not sure
3. no
4. no opinion


Colorado and other states have legalize marijuana, first for medical use and now for general use.
Germany and several other states have legalize BROTHELS that are regulated, taxed and controlled by local governments. They probably did this to get rid of street corner prostitution and to put pimps out of business.

So, should Arkansas and the federal government legalize, regulate and tax marijuana and brothels?
I say yes with government control, such as regulating the dosage/strength and amount of marijuana and other drugs a customer could get, even requiring customers to pay for security guard delivery of their 1 to 5 ounces at a time at their homes if no kids are there and requiring the customer to smoke the marijuana on the premises of the dispensary/store and requiring store owners to have a LPN or RN on duty 24-hours a day to handle any medical emergencies.
I also say yes to brothels with government control, such as requiring weekly GYN health checks for the ladies working as adult entertainers, limiting the frequency johns visit the adult entertainers to stop stupid johns from blowing all their money, setting a flat basic rate paid to the company running the business and taxing the adult entertainers a special income tax and taxing the business too.
Why does America need this? Have you not seen all the news shows about forced prostitution and human trafficking? Look at all the ads from hookers on Backpage for another reason! Besides brothels might cut down on all sorts of sex crimes.

Another reason to support both of these is more sin taxes -- like beer and tobacco taxes, luxury boat and car taxes, -- that means income and sales taxes can be lower for the general population.

So speak up and let's here from you.

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3/26/2014 6:55:28 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Boy, the Arkansas room is dead. This thread is stirring up things on the 50s group.

3/30/2014 12:29:36 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

furryboob
Dover, AR
32, joined Jan. 2010


I don't smoke it personally, but as for brothels well I agree it would cut down on sex crimes, but the 2 big issues that instantly come to mind would be all the religious people out there that scream and cry about everything they disagree with (even though majority of them could probably be found doing things against their religious beliefs as so many do) and the fact that I wouldn't see a woman or man willingly working in a brothel as a job without sufficient compensation. As for taxing them, yes I agree if it were legal, than it would also help the government as well.

3/30/2014 8:24:39 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Furry bob, you may be right about the price of brothels not going down much from street crime hookers.
But you might find some unemployed desperate hookers willing to work for a guaranteed flat wage with the hope of tips from johns.
From what I've seen on the Dateline type news shows and reading, isn't getting enough money nightly for a motel room and enough for food the biggest cost and worry for a Back Page type hooker?
You build a brothel with some rooms really large -- to handle a mini living room, bathroom and kitchenette, -- and some suites with 2 rooms connected via the bathroom... sort of like guest quarters for visiting pilot students at Little Rock Air Force Base or probably other bases.
Anyway, the long and the short of this, you might be able to make a decent business model out of brothels and provide enough to satisfy hookers who don't have their own place to take johns back too. lol

4/7/2014 5:49:24 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

moto_gp_guy
Lavaca, AR
31, joined Apr. 2012


I say yes yes on both. Vegas has the bunny ranch it seems to be working out just fine. Colorado since legalized pot for general use has already made close to if not over by now 5 million in just tax revenue.

4/7/2014 6:51:36 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from moto_gp_guy:
I say yes yes on both. Vegas has the bunny ranch it seems to be working out just fine. Colorado since legalized pot for general use has already made close to if not over by now 5 million in just tax revenue.


My points exactly! Install sin taxes and either lower general taxes or start fixing some of the many screwed up things in this state and other states... such as roads, over crowded jails, etc.

4/20/2014 9:59:02 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  
johngabel99
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,450)
Conway, AR
34, joined Nov. 2012


I say if there is a demand there should be a supply, now with saying that I think it would be in the governments best interest to legalize it and structure it to provide safe environments for not only the consumers but the obviously the workers as well.

I see a lot of time effort and tax dollars wasted fighting a drug that has never killed anyone. Meaning no one has ever overdosed on Marijuana

Out of curiosity both these questions are valid but why combine the two?

Searching for a pattern?

4/21/2014 6:48:51 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from johngabel99:
I say if there is a demand there should be a supply, now with saying that I think it would be in the governments best interest to legalize it and structure it to provide safe environments for not only the consumers but the obviously the workers as well.

I see a lot of time effort and tax dollars wasted fighting a drug that has never killed anyone. Meaning no one has ever overdosed on Marijuana

Out of curiosity both these questions are valid but why combine the two?

Searching for a pattern?


1. I figured I would get more responses if they were combined.
2 I could see a conservative Legislature giving slightly but restricting where you could get marijuana to a rural/suburban "adult entertainment centers" in an effort to discourage both marijuana and hookers by making couples wanting to get high together go to the adult entertainment where the working girls might offend the lady smokers.
3. And I totally agree with wasted time for cops and prison dollars.

4/24/2014 6:58:23 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


So, are you going to join everyone in urging your state legislators, Congress and the White House to approve this? Someone want to start a Change.org campaign while I'm off line today?

5/13/2014 10:29:20 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

canoefool_22
Fort Smith, AR
38, joined Oct. 2009


I vote yes lol, btw just curious, anyone ever use backpage and how did it turn out? I've been considering it....

5/13/2014 8:38:41 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from canoefool_22:
I vote yes lol, btw just curious, anyone ever use backpage and how did it turn out? I've been considering it....

You'll have to check yourself.
lol

7/29/2014 4:08:18 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  
tolcat
Fort Smith, AR
61, joined Feb. 2011


Hell yea it is 40 years late already for making it legal ..

7/29/2014 1:20:32 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

arazziunchained
Kansas City, MO
23, joined Jan. 2014


yes it should, long as your the first wh*re in the brothel smokin da pot and from what i hear you all are imbreds so should it be legal to F YOUR OWN MOM AND SISTERS?

7/29/2014 6:32:10 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from tolcat:
Hell yea it is 40 years late already for making it legal ..


The trend is starting. Colorado and Washington state for marijuana.
Nevada and European countries for brothels.
All over the US for gay marriage.... showing things do change if you push it hard enough and come up with the right Bill of Rights argument. All the so-called moral majority is doing is Restraint of interstate commerce. lol

8/2/2014 9:45:49 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ckrobin
Conway, AR
43, joined Mar. 2014


I agree that pot should be legal. I am glad it did not make it on this last bill because it would not have allowed home cultivation. When we finally do get something passed that will be the end of it for a long time, it will likely not be changed in our lifetime. Anything that does not allow home cultivation will make it unaffordable for many who use it for medical reasons.

I have heard some people speculate that Obama will make an executive order just before he leaves office. If you watch some of his interviews on the subject you could see where one would make an argument for that. He has already ordered the stop of federal funding to pursue marijuana trafficking.

Here is a great link to a documentary by Dr. Sanjay Gupta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAFu-Ihwyzg . If you are not familiar with Dr. Gupta, he is CNN's chief medical correspondent and is very influential in the Obama administration, for starters.

As far as brothels I never really gave it much thought. I am too cheap to pay for something I can do with my hand. But whatever two consenting adults do is really between them and no one else. As George Carlin said, "Selling is legal. F**king is legal! Why isn't selling f**king legal?"

The only regulation I could see needed would be to make sure the workers were truly working freely and of age. I mean if a brother wants to charge top dollar it is in their own best interest to have the workers tested and require protection. I can't imagine many people willing to save a few bucks to go to that place that doesn't test the "staff." Pun intended

But isn't there a loop hole anyway. I mean I am not a lawyer but porn is legal in this state right? So open a "Be your own PornStar" shop. You have a crew of "actors" that a client can come in and choose who they want to be their "co-Star" and you shoot the whole thing on a digital camera. For a little Extra the client can buy the actual camera to insure full control off "production." I mean to hell with back Page or whatever it is. I am calling my business "Back Door Productions."



8/3/2014 6:31:47 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from ckrobin:
I agree that pot should be legal. I am glad it did not make it on this last bill because it would not have allowed home cultivation. When we finally do get something passed that will be the end of it for a long time, it will likely not be changed in our lifetime. Anything that does not allow home cultivation will make it unaffordable for many who use it for medical reasons.


Robin, Passing one bill would open up things for more people to have it.


I have heard some people speculate that Obama will make an executive order just before he leaves office. If you watch some of his interviews on the subject you could see where one would make an argument for that. He has already ordered the stop of federal funding to pursue marijuana trafficking.

Robin, I believe that order just limits them from prosecuting minor possession cases. They are still going after the major suppliers and dealers.

As far as brothels I never really gave it much thought. I am too cheap to pay for something I can do with my hand. But whatever two consenting adults do is really between them and no one else. As George Carlin said, "Selling is legal. F**king is legal! Why isn't selling f**king legal?"

Robin, RIGHT ON.


The only regulation I could see needed would be to make sure the workers were truly working freely and of age. I mean if a brother wants to charge top dollar it is in their own best interest to have the workers tested and require protection. I can't imagine many people willing to save a few bucks to go to that place that doesn't test the "staff." Pun intended
ROBIN, I WOULD LIKE NO Regulations, but for the South I think we would need regulations on where they could be located-- outside of cities, taxation rules, medical check ups, condom use and price controls.

But isn't there a loop hole anyway. I mean I am not a lawyer but porn is legal in this state right? So open a "Be your own PornStar" shop. You have a crew of "actors" that a client can come in and choose who they want to be their "co-Star" and you shoot the whole thing on a digital camera. For a little Extra the client can buy the actual camera to insure full control off "production." I mean to hell with back Page or whatever it is. I am calling my business "Back Door Productions."



ROBIN, IF you set this up, I'll be one of your actors for BBWs.

8/4/2014 7:54:50 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ckrobin
Conway, AR
43, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from ok72076:
Robin, I believe that order just limits them from prosecuting minor possession cases. They are still going after the major suppliers and dealers.


Correct, kinda. The only major players they are going after are ones involved in OTHER criminal activity. They still want the ability to prosecute for the pot crimes for the "Al Capone" type cases. (I think that is the mob boss prosecuted for tax evasion)Now that doesn't leave many out that they aren't involved in other criminal activity. But maybe there are a few?

Those of you old enough to remember the Cold War know that people will kill over a pair of Levi's if you make them illegal.

8/5/2014 6:59:34 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


That's another reason why I want to legalize, regulate and tax drugs and brothels.
You regulate it and then you can control legal doses that people who occasionally use will be willing to put up with.
Americans do it with beer and booze. You can get stronger stuff in Europe and elsewhere but we get use to what's legal and you don't have cops chasing you for using.
So, you regulate the drugs and make people use the drugs at the adult entertainment centers or have a pharmacy deliver it to their home... after paying for it with lots of taxes but cheaper than stuff on the street now.

12/22/2014 10:15:21 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  
jayman1027
Williamsport, PA
30, joined May. 2013


Hey,I think those laws were made for a reason. But both provide a great souce of revenue to tax and indulge the masses.

12/25/2014 11:24:20 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


six out of 7 people in favor of this. Where are the women voters?

12/25/2014 1:40:12 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

rufftreasure
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,220)
Fairmont, MN
62, joined Jun. 2014


I vote yes, on both counts.

12/25/2014 6:50:06 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from rufftreasure:
I vote yes, on both counts.

Thanks for the support. Now if we can just get the GOP to see this as a voluntary sin tax instead instead of a moral issue.. ... Legalize, regulate and Tax everything.

12/27/2014 9:35:13 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

rufftreasure
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,220)
Fairmont, MN
62, joined Jun. 2014


Well, yes, as that's the only way it will fly. The gubment needs their share wether it be from tax revenue, or fining the crap outta folks. Making it more lucrative for the government to get the it's from legalization, is what needs to happen.
The drug wars are too costly. And women should be protected from disease by having healthy hookers sellin their wares.

Also religions actually took into account the need, by sanctioning the temple prostitutes.



[Edited 12/27/2014 9:35:58 AM ]

12/27/2014 11:22:50 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from rufftreasure:
Well, yes, as that's the only way it will fly. The gubment needs their share wether it be from tax revenue, or fining the crap outta folks. Making it more lucrative for the government to get the it's from legalization, is what needs to happen.
The drug wars are too costly. And women should be protected from disease by having healthy hookers sellin their wares.

Also religions actually took into account the need, by sanctioning the temple prostitutes.


Ms Treasure, I should wish I could find a treasure like yourself down here with the same philosophy on things like I have.

12/29/2014 5:43:34 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

rufftreasure
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,220)
Fairmont, MN
62, joined Jun. 2014


Well, Olderthandirt imported me from Minnesnowta!!

We are known to be progressive thinkers. I really wish the country would support Jesse Ventura for a go at POTUS. He was a great Governor of the libertarian persuasion, who ,if I am not mistaken, had to run republican . He's really a libertarian, IMO.

1/1/2015 8:24:53 PM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from rufftreasure:
Well, Olderthandirt imported me from Minnesnowta!!

We are known to be progressive thinkers. I really wish the country would support Jesse Ventura for a go at POTUS. He was a great Governor of the libertarian persuasion, who ,if I am not mistaken, had to run republican . He's really a libertarian, IMO.


Some of the Libertarian ideas were OK but others are too mean.

1/2/2015 10:24:48 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

rufftreasure
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (19,220)
Fairmont, MN
62, joined Jun. 2014


Quote from ok72076:
Some of the Libertarian ideas were OK but others are too mean.


Yes, I understand that thinking, there's radicalization in nearly everything. It's why, much
like religion , I can't subscribe to the two party broke d___ system.

I can't be contained in organized religion either, I'm much more Universal in my spirituality too.

1/2/2015 11:25:30 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from rufftreasure:
Yes, I understand that thinking, there's radicalization in nearly everything. It's why, much
like religion , I can't subscribe to the two party broke d___ system.

I can't be contained in organized religion either, I'm much more Universal in my spirituality too.


I'm more of a centralist in political thought. The GOP can keep welfare and the Private Option but that doesn't mean they can't change it to require larger co=pays than you and I pay for insurance, change tax laws to remove tax deductions for people getting state and federal benefits.

And, I'm anti-religion but I don't care what my friends or lovers believe in and will even go to special events at a church.

2/16/2015 6:35:39 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  
cupocheer
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Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Has Arkansas ever worried about being in compliance with the law before?

3/28/2015 5:59:25 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

deprived88
Over 1,000 Posts (1,845)
Bull Shoals, AR
98, joined Feb. 2014


yes and yes

3/28/2015 8:48:03 AM Should the US or Arkansas legalize marijuana and Brothels?  

ok72076
Over 1,000 Posts (1,428)
Jacksonville, AR
56, joined Jan. 2008


Quote from cupocheer:
Has Arkansas ever worried about being in compliance with the law before?


Definitely time for a change in the laws.