What does sex outside of marriage have to do with abortion? Lots of married women have abortions.

All religions do not, where did you ever get that idea.

While all religions warns against sexual promiscuity or indulgence where does that leave the rest of the western world?

No idea what you mean at all.



Are you saying, Religious people do not like sex?

Um, where do you think, little Muslims, Christians, Buddists,,,,, come from?

And, as for the 'rest"? Where do those little agnostics and atheists come from?

People like sex, it seems,

No idea what you mean at all.



Are you saying, Religious people do not like sex?

Um, where do you think, little Muslims, Christians, Buddists,,,,, come from?

And, as for the 'rest"? Where do those little agnostics and atheists come from?

People like sex, it seems,

I believe the point is not to be ruled by sex (the carnal mind).

Promiscuity is having meaningless sex just chasing after the pleasure (orgasm).

Making love is a spiritual experience, when two come together in love for the joy of giving to one another, it isn't a selfish act. Your heart is involved...

I believe the point is not to be ruled by sex (the carnal mind).
Promiscuity is having meaningless sex just chasing after the pleasure (orgasm).
Making love is a spiritual experience, when two come together in love for the joy of giving to one another, it isn't a selfish act. Your heart is involved...

Kama Sutra

I think the answer to that would be based differently by each individual. Some people think to deny there sexuality is what God would want from us, I'm not one of those people. I don't let my physical consume my spiritual though. I know I am a spiritual being residing in a physical body for now. The physical body is a vessel and it has needs to sub-stain itself to remain balanced. If I deny all need for physical release I would be a house divided at war within, and if I'm at war within how will I make any progress? If your capable of taking the high road and it causes you no conflict within then you can choose to abstain. Just steer clear of the low road where you are devoted purely to your physical needs and forsake your spiritual needs in the process. I myself prefer the middle way. I recognize my body has needs and I feel no guilt or shame for giving my body what it needs to stay balanced within. If my body needs release so I can clear my mind and focus on more important things, then I give it that experience and move on.

And if a drop of sweat falls off my brow and hence no longer available to cool my skin, did I sin by not preventing the unintended use? Is it for us to say that the only purpose of sweat is cooling?

Then you have created for yourself a stumbling block by the need to judge the action as wrong sweetie. Jesus tells you the Kingdom of Heaven is inside you, its is a state of consciousness that you obtain. Take the example of Adam and Eve, they lived in Eden and ran around naked and unashamed until they were tempted to eat of the forbidden fruit. Once they did they saw they were naked and they were ashamed. They viewed this as wrong and sought to cover there nakedness from God. They judged themselves and Jesus teaches that judge not lest ye be judged, for how you judge another you will be judged the same.

This was the same thing in which Lucifer did. He judged it was wrong for God to give men free will, and in doing so he was judged. God is no respecter of persons, God does not see the physical you, he only sees the spiritual you, which is your conscious mind. So what conflicts you are having within your conscious mind this is what God is experiencing through you, what value judgments you make in your conscious mind, this is the same in which you will be judged.

So if you judge something wrong within your conscious mind such as masturbation, and you do it and feel guilt and shame, then you need to not do it until you can overcome the need to judge it at all. If you see as a temptation that you are giving in too, instead of just an experience that you are allowing yourself to have with no judgement. In your conscious mind you will feel guilt for giving into the temptation.

Judge? When you see the sun come up and you say it's gonna be a sunny day , you're judging the day? When you see a cripple and you say ,there's the cripple, you're judging? At some point, where do you not say what it is you see and name it so?

In other words if I see a physically abled individual park in a handicap zone and I call him an ass, I would be judging that person?

Yes you would be. What if he parked there because his wife was in the store and went into labor and he ran to get the car to save her from walking too far. What if he parked there because he had a disability you couldn't see, but yet he was able to walk. Or he could have just been lazy and didn't want to walk. The point is you don't know what motivated him to park there, and you would be judging him based on an assumption you made, thinking the worst that he was just lazy. How would you feel when you later saw him walking out carrying his pregnant wife, or you got close enough to him and noticed that he had a mental disability?

Yes you would be. What if he parked there because his wife was in the store and went into labor and he ran to get the car to save her from walking too far. What if he parked there because he had a disability you couldn't see, but yet he was able to walk. Or he could have just been lazy and didn't want to walk. The point is you don't know what motivated him to park there, and you would be judging him based on an assumption you made, thinking the worst that he was just lazy. How would you feel when you later saw him walking out carrying his pregnant wife, or you got close enough to him and noticed that he had a mental disability?

I can only speak personally on that question. I see son's and daughter's of God everywhere I look. Deuteronomy 14:1
You are the children of the LORD your God.

All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. Including you; we are all son's and daughters of God, the body of God. No one any greater than any other.
Religion has taught that Jesus was an exception, and not an example. But Jesus himself taught that he was an example and not an exception. "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.”

And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Evident and tangible truth is rarely fully known. You can only see a situation from the truth that you hold. Passing a judgement on how deep the water is, doesn't mis-qualify energy if your judgement is wrong. Passing judgement on a person, and being wrong is a false judgement. And once you learn that it is a false judgement you feel guilty or shamed. That guilt and shame you feel effect your conscious mind. The more important question is why do you feel a need to judge?

Cause and effect. Why am I judging how deep the water is? What is my purpose for judging the water's depth? What will be the effect if I judge wrongly? What will be the effect if I judge right? If I judge wrong will I feel guilty or shamed? If I judge right will I feel superior to the water, or will I feel pride? If I feel either of those emotions I have mis-qualified my energy.

Has you can see either judgement I make is going to effect my perception of myself. Wrong judgement leaves me feeling guilty, shamed. Right judgement leaves me feeling superior, prideful. All of these emotions effect my state of being. So I see that I can't make a judgement without it effecting me. Feeling prideful and superior are all emotions that feed your ego, that make you feel better than your fellow brother and sisters. Feeling guilty and ashamed are all emotions that make you feel unworthy. To walk the spiritual path is with the final goal of coming into oneness with your creator. Feeling either of these emotions is not going to bring you into oneness. When you come to understand that everything that is on this planet, and everyone that is on this planet, is the body of God, each containing a spark of God's energy within, each created by God, how can you come into oneness with God when you are opposing God's creations?