Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World

2/26/2016 1:55:16 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	A few minutes ago I saw someone's license plate that said, "Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World". Isn't that a beautiful thought? Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
2/26/2016 1:57:27 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
w6o6l6f_1 Richmond, VA 38, joined May. 2014	I saw a bumpersticker that said. ~ Honk if you love Jesus, Text if you want to meet him.
2/27/2016 8:01:25 AM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: A few minutes ago I saw someone's license plate that said, "Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World". Isn't that a beautiful thought? It is if you're mentally disturbed. Jesus is a copied and corrupted myth perpetrated by professional charlatans duping delusional Christians like yourself. In your case however, you've shown a more serious mental incapacity lacking any ability to use logic and reason.
2/27/2016 9:48:46 AM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
m_gonzales San Antonio, TX 26, joined Sep. 2012	Given that's he's dead, no. That would mean the world has flat-lined and I'd prefer to not live in a flat-lined world.
2/27/2016 10:00:44 AM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
rufftreasure Fairmont, MN 61, joined Jun. 2014 online now!	The heart beat of your little world , Lud. That's what you don't get, IMO You are of an authoritarian mind, and if that's how you run your personal relationship with deity, through all middle men/ women, through the hierarchy of your institution, well that's your program, not mine. It's in YOUR little world, the microcosm that you choose to reside in, what you don't understand is your little microcosm is but a part of the macrocosim. Which means we are all one, just that you Lud ,can't see it
2/27/2016 1:19:10 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012	Quote from rufftreasure: The heart beat of your little world , Lud. That's what you don't get, IMO You are of an authoritarian mind, and if that's how you run your personal relationship with deity, through all middle men/ women, through the hierarchy of your institution, well that's your program, not mine. It's in YOUR little world, the microcosm that you choose to reside in, what you don't understand is your little microcosm is but a part of the macrocosim. Which means we are all one, just that you Lud ,can't see it This is where Ludlow is coming from, below. This is a GOOD read. I'm sure Ruff and everyone will know what it's talking about: 155:5.8 Until the races become highly intelligent and more fully civilized, there will persist many of those childlike and superstitious ceremonies which are so characteristic of the evolutionary religious practices of primitive and backward peoples. Until the human race progresses to the level of a higher and more general recognition of the realities of spiritual experience, large numbers of men and women will continue to show a personal preference for those religions of authority which require only intellectual assent, in contrast to the religion of the spirit, which entails active participation of mind and soul in the faith adventure of grappling with the rigorous realities of progressive human experience. 155:5.9 The acceptance of the traditional religions of authority presents the easy way out for man’s urge to seek satisfaction for the longings of his spiritual nature. The settled, crystallized, and established religions of authority afford a ready refuge to which the distracted and distraught soul of man may flee when harassed by fear and tormented by uncertainty. Such a religion requires of its devotees, as the price to be paid for its satisfactions and assurances, only a passive and purely intellectual assent. 155:5.10 And for a long time there will live on earth those timid, fearful, and hesitant individuals who will prefer thus to secure their religious consolations, even though, in so casting their lot with the religions of authority, they compromise the sovereignty of personality, debase the dignity of self-respect, and utterly surrender the right to participate in that most thrilling and inspiring of all possible human experiences: the personal quest for truth, the exhilaration of facing the perils of intellectual discovery, the determination to explore the realities of personal religious experience, the supreme satisfaction of experiencing the personal triumph of the actual realization of the victory of spiritual faith over intellectual doubt as it is honestly won in the supreme adventure of all human existence—man seeking God, for himself and as himself, and finding him. 155:5.11 The religion of the spirit means effort, struggle, conflict, faith, determination, love, loyalty, and progress. The religion of the mind—the theology of authority—requires little or none of these exertions from its formal believers. Tradition is a safe refuge and an easy path for those fearful and halfhearted souls who instinctively shun the spirit struggles and mental uncertainties associated with those faith voyages of daring adventure out upon the high seas of unexplored truth in search for the farther shores of spiritual realities as they may be discovered by the progressive human mind and experienced by the evolving human soul. -The Urantia Book
2/27/2016 10:44:34 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	FJO, do the races need to become highly intelligent? Which races, in your opinion, are not intelligent? These unintelligent races, do they have darker skin than yours? Urantiaism=racism.
2/27/2016 11:02:26 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: FJO, do the races need to become highly intelligent? Which races, in your opinion, are not intelligent? These unintelligent races, do they have darker skin than yours? Urantiaism=racism. The quote I gave says "the races." I think one can reasonably assume that means all of them. That's good enough for me. And it talks about "those childlike and superstitious ceremonies which are so characteristic of the evolutionary religious practices of primitive and backward peoples." That's what you have in your Catholic churches, "childlike and superstitious ceremonies." Your "childlike and superstitious ceremonies ... are so characteristic of the evolutionary religious practices of primitive and backward peoples."
2/28/2016 11:34:23 AM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: FJO, do the races need to become highly intelligent? Which races, in your opinion, are not intelligent? These unintelligent races, do they have darker skin than yours? Urantiaism=racism. Christianity is also racist. Jesus himself displayed it. The NT is anti-Semitic, pro-slavery and Jesus actually blesses slaves and slave masters. You have a sick religion and given that is the case your condemnation of other sick religions just makes you a hypocrite. But I know it's not completely your fault. You're not very bright. [Edited 2/28/2016 11:35:05 AM ]
2/28/2016 7:34:00 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	Jesus was not anti-Semitic, He Himself being a Semite. Jesus condemned/condemns those who refuse to believe in Him, but that certainly includes more than just the Jews, and it has nothing to do with race. Any Jew, or any person, who wishes to convert to Catholicism may do so. The following popes, in the following years, condemned slavery and the slave trade: Eugene IV in 1435, Pius II in 1462, Paul III in 1537, Urban VIII in 1639, Benedict XIV in 1741, Gregory XVI in 1839, and Leo XIII in 1890.
2/28/2016 8:51:22 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Jesus was not anti-Semitic, He Himself being a Semite. Jesus condemned/condemns those who refuse to believe in Him, but that certainly includes more than just the Jews, and it has nothing to do with race. Any Jew, or any person, who wishes to convert to Catholicism may do so. Who said otherwise? The following popes, in the following years, condemned slavery and the slave trade: Eugene IV in 1435, Pius II in 1462, Paul III in 1537, Urban VIII in 1639, Benedict XIV in 1741, Gregory XVI in 1839, and Leo XIII in 1890. This is just as relevant: The following popes in the following years had sex, licit and illicit, sodomy, and illegitimate children: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This is a list of sexually active popes, Catholic priests who were sexually active before becoming pope, and popes who were legally married. Some candidates were sexually active before their election as pope, and it has sometimes been claimed that other popes were sexually active during their papacies. Such relationships were undertaken outside the bond of matrimony and broke the vow of chastity. There are various classifications for those who were sexually active at some time during their lives. Periods in parentheses refer to the years of their papacies. Main articles: Clerical celibacy (Catholic Church) and Catholic teachings on sexual morality For many years of the Church's history, celibacy was considered optional. Based on the customs of the times, it is assumed by many that most of the Apostles, such as Peter, were married and had families. It is clear from the New Testament (Mk 1:29–31; Mt 8:14–15; Lk 4:38–39; 1 Tim 3:2, 12; Tit 1:6) that at least Peter had been married, and that bishops, presbyters and deacons of the Early Church were often married as well. It is also clear from epigraphy, the testimony of the Church Fathers, synodal legislation, papal decretals and other sources[not specific enough to verify] that in the following centuries a married clergy, in greater or lesser numbers, was a normal feature of the life of the Church. Celibacy was not required for those ordained, but still was a discipline practised in the early Church, particularly by those in the monastic life. Although various local Church councils had demanded celibacy of the clergy in a particular area,[1] it was not until the Second Lateran Council (1139) that whole of the Latin (Western) Rite of the Catholic Church decided to accept people for ordination only after they had taken a promise of celibacy.[2] Fathered illegitimate children before Holy Orders[edit] Name Reign Relationship Offspring Notes Pope Pius II (1458–1464) not married Yes at least two illegitimate children, one in Strasbourg and one in Scotland, both born before he entered the clergy. Delayed becoming a cleric because of the requirement of chastity.[13] Pope Innocent VIII (1484–1492) not married Yes two illegitimate children during his youth, both born before he entered the clergy.[14] Nepotism described as "lavish as it was shameless." [15] Married elder son Franceschetto Cybo to the daughter of Lorenzo de' Medici, who in return obtained the cardinal's hat for his 13-year-old son Giovanni, who became Pope Leo X.[16] Pope Clement VII (1523–1534) not married. Relationship with a nubian slave girl - possibly Simonetta da Collevecchio Yes had one illegitimate son before he took holy orders, identified as Alessandro de' Medici, Duke of Florence.[17] Fathered illegitimate children after receiving Holy Orders[edit] Name Reign Relationship Offspring Notes Pope Julius II (1503–1513) not married Yes three illegitimate daughters, one of whom was Felice della Rovere (born in 1483, twenty years before his election as pope, but twelve years after his enthronement as Bishop of Lausanne).[18] The schismatic Conciliabulum of Pisa, which sought to depose him in 1511, also accused him of being a "sodomite".[19] Pope Paul III (1534–1549) not married. Silvia Ruffini as mistress Yes held off ordination in order to continue a promiscuous lifestyle, fathering four illegitimate children (three sons and one daughter) by Silvia Ruffini after his appointment as Cardinal-Deacon of Santi Cosimo and Damiano. He broke his relations with her ca. 1513. He made his illegitimate son Pier Luigi Farnese the first Duke of Parma.[20][21] Pope Gregory XIII (1572–1585) not married. Affair with Maddalena Fulchini. Yes received the ecclesiastical tonsure in Bologna in June 1539, but subsequently had an affair which resulted in the birth of Giacomo Boncompagni in 1548. Giacomo remained illegitimate but Gregory later appointed him Gonfalonier of the Church, governor of the Castel Sant'Angelo, as well as governor of Fermo.[22][23] Pope Leo XII (1823–1829) not married. Yes as a young prelate was suspected of having had a liaison with the wife of a soldier of Swiss Guard and as nuncio in Germany allegedly fathered three illegitimate children.[24] Continued in Part 2
2/28/2016 8:51:46 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012	Part 2 Popes alleged to be sexually active during pontificate[edit] Name Reign Relationship Offspring Notes Pope Sergius III (904–911) not married Yes accused by opponents of being the illegitimate father of Pope John XI by Marozia.[25] Such accusations found in Liutprand of Cremona's Antapodosis,[26] as well as the Liber Pontificalis.[27][28][29] The accusations are disputed by another early source, the annalist Flodoard (c. 894–966): John XI was brother of Alberic II, the latter being the offspring of Marozia and her husband Alberic I, so John too may have been the son of Marozia and Alberic I. Fauvarque emphasizes that contemporary sources are dubious, Liutprand being "prone to exaggeration" while other mentions of this fatherhood appear in satires written by supporters of Pope Formosus.[30] Pope John X (914–928) not married. Affairs with Theodora and Marozia. No had romantic affairs with both Theodora and her daughter Marozia, according to Liutprand of Cremona in his Antapodosis.[31][32](See also Saeculum obscurum) Pope John XII (955–963) not married No accused by adversaries of adultery and incest.[33][34] Benedict of Soracte noted that he had "a collection of women". According to Liutprand of Cremona,[26] "they testified about his adultery, which they did not see with their own eyes, but nonetheless knew with certainty: he had fornicated with the widow of Rainier, with Stephana his father's concubine, with the widow Anna, and with his own niece, and he made the sacred palace into a wh*rehouse." According to Chamberlin, John was "a Christian Caligula whose crimes were rendered particularly horrific by the office he held".[35] Some sources report that he died 8 days after being stricken by paralysis while in the act of adultery,[33] others that he was killed by the jealous husband while in the act of committing adultery.[36][37][38][39] Pope Benedict IX (1032– became pope in 1044, again in 1045 and finally 1047–1048). not married No accused by Bishop Benno of Piacenza of "many vile adulteries."[40][41] Pope Victor III referred in his third book of Dialogues to "his rapes... and other unspeakable acts."[42] His life prompted Peter Damian to write an extended treatise against illicit sex in general, and homosexuality in particular. In his Liber Gomorrhianus, Damian accused Benedict IX of routine sodomy and bestiality and sponsoring orgies.[43] In May 1045, Benedict IX resigned his office to get married.[44] Pope Paul II (1464–1471) not married No thought to have died of indigestion arising from eating melon,[45][46] though detractors insisted that he died while engaging in sodomy with a page.[47][48][49] Pope Sixtus IV (1471–1484) not married No according to Stefano Infessura, Sixtus was a "lover of boys and sodomites" - awarding benefices and bishoprics in return for sexual favours, and nominating a number of young men as cardinals, some of whom were celebrated for their good looks.[50][51][52] However, Infessura had partisan allegiances to the Colonna family and so is not considered to be always reliable or impartial.[53] Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503) not married. Relationships with Vanozza dei Catanei and Giulia Farnese. Yes had a long affair with Vannozza dei Cattanei while still a priest, but before he became pope; and by her had his illegitimate children Cesare Borgia, Giovanni Borgia, Gioffre Borgia, and Lucrezia. A later mistress, Giulia Farnese, was the sister of Alessandro Farnese, and she gave birth to a daughter (Laura) while Alexander was in his 60s and reigning as pope.[54] Alexander fathered at least seven, and possibly as many as ten illegitimate children, and did much to promote his family's interests – using his offspring to build alliances with a number of important dynasties.[55] He appointed Giovanni Borgia as Captain General of the Church, and made Cesare a Cardinal of the Church – also creating independent duchies for each of them out of papal lands. Pope Leo X (1513–1521) not married. No accused, after his death, of homosexuality (Francesco Guicciardini and Paolo Giovio). It has been suggested he may have had ulterior motives in offering preferment to Marcantonio Flaminio.[56] Pope Julius III (1550–1555) not married. No alleged to have had a long love affair with Innocenzo Ciocchi del Monte which was a cause of public scandal. The Venetian ambassador at that time reported that Innocenzo shared the pope's bed.[57]
2/28/2016 8:58:57 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: Jesus was not anti-Semitic, He Himself being a Semite. I said the NT is anti-Semitic. Jesus condemned/condemns those who refuse to believe in Him, but that certainly includes more than just the Jews, and it has nothing to do with race. Jesus called a Syro-phoenician woman a dog. That's racism and bigotry. Any Jew, or any person, who wishes to convert to Catholicism may do so. Jesuits went around the world forcing conversion using violence, forcefully breaking up communities and death. The following popes, in the following years, condemned slavery and the slave trade: Eugene IV in 1435, Pius II in 1462, Paul III in 1537, Urban VIII in 1639, Benedict XIV in 1741, Gregory XVI in 1839, and Leo XIII in 1890. Jesus himself blessed a slave and his owner. That trumps anything that follows.
2/28/2016 11:06:35 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	It is clear from the context that when Jesus called the Syro-Phoenician woman a dog He was merely mocking the Jews for calling non-Jews dogs. Jesus blessed the woman and granted her request. I don't know what slave owner Jesus blessed, but Jesus blessed a lot of sinners, not meant to be construed as condoning their sins.
2/29/2016 12:40:03 AM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: It is clear from the context that when Jesus called the Syro-Phoenician woman a dog He was merely mocking the Jews for calling non-Jews dogs. Jesus blessed the woman and granted her request. I don't know what slave owner Jesus blessed, but Jesus blessed a lot of sinners, not meant to be construed as condoning their sins. What in the world are you blathering on about? (Maybe you are commenting on posts I can't see, I don't know.) In any case, Jesus never called anyone a dog. Here's the true story: THE SYRIAN WOMAN 156:1.1 There lived near the home of Karuska, where the Master lodged, a Syrian woman who had heard much of Jesus as a great healer and teacher, and on this Sabbath afternoon she came over, bringing her little daughter. The child, about twelve years old, was afflicted with a grievous nervous disorder characterized by convulsions and other distressing manifestations. 156:1.2 Jesus had charged his associates to tell no one of his presence at the home of Karuska, explaining that he desired to have a rest. While they had obeyed their Master’s instructions, the servant of Karuska had gone over to the house of this Syrian woman, Norana, to inform her that Jesus lodged at the home of her mistress and had urged this anxious mother to bring her afflicted daughter for healing. This mother, of course, believed that her child was possessed by a demon, an unclean spirit. 156:1.3 When Norana arrived with her daughter, the Alpheus twins explained through an interpreter that the Master was resting and could not be disturbed; whereupon Norana replied that she and the child would remain right there until the Master had finished his rest. Peter also endeavored to reason with her and to persuade her to go home. He explained that Jesus was weary with much teaching and healing, and that he had come to Phoenicia for a period of quiet and rest. But it was futile; Norana would not leave. To Peter’s entreaties she replied only: “I will not depart until I have seen your Master. I know he can cast the demon out of my child, and I will not go until the healer has looked upon my daughter.” 156:1.4 Then Thomas sought to send the woman away but met only with failure. To him she said: “I have faith that your Master can cast out this demon which torments my child. I have heard of his mighty works in Galilee, and I believe in him. What has happened to you, his disciples, that you would send away those who come seeking your Master’s help?” And when she had thus spoken, Thomas withdrew. 156:1.5 Then came forward Simon Zelotes to remonstrate with Norana. Said Simon: “Woman, you are a Greek-speaking gentile. It is not right that you should expect the Master to take the bread intended for the children of the favored household and cast it to the dogs.” But Norana refused to take offense at Simon’s thrust. She replied only: “Yes, teacher, I understand your words. I am only a dog in the eyes of the Jews, but as concerns your Master, I am a believing dog. I am determined that he shall see my daughter, for I am persuaded that, if he shall but look upon her, he will heal her. And even you, my good man, would not dare to deprive the dogs of the privilege of obtaining the crumbs which chance to fall from the children’s table.” 156:1.6 At just this time the little girl was seized with a violent convulsion before them all, and the mother cried out: “There, you can see that my child is possessed by an evil spirit. If our need does not impress you, it would appeal to your Master, who I have been told loves all men and dares even to heal the gentiles when they believe. You are not worthy to be his disciples. I will not go until my child has been cured.” 156:1.7 Jesus, who had heard all of this conversation through an open window, now came outside, much to their surprise, and said: “O woman, great is your faith, so great that I cannot withhold that which you desire; go your way in peace. Your daughter already has been made whole.” And the little girl was well from that hour. As Norana and the child took leave, Jesus entreated them to tell no one of this occurrence; and while his associates did comply with this request, the mother and the child ceased not to proclaim the fact of the little girl’s healing throughout all the countryside and even in Sidon, so much so that Jesus found it advisable to change his lodgings within a few days. 156:1.8 The next day, as Jesus taught his apostles, commenting on the cure of the daughter of the Syrian woman, he said: “And so it has been all the way along; you see for yourselves how the gentiles are able to exercise saving faith in the teachings of the gospel of the kingdom of heaven. Verily, verily, I tell you that the Father’s kingdom shall be taken by the gentiles if the children of Abraham are not minded to show faith enough to enter therein.” -The Urantia Book
2/29/2016 1:41:04 AM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
followjesusonly Kingman, AZ 73, joined May. 2012	Quote from ludlowlowell: Jesus was not anti-Semitic, He Himself being a Semite. Jesus condemned/condemns those who refuse to believe in Him, He did not and He does not. 196:0.13 Jesus does not require his disciples to believe in him but rather to believe with him, believe in the reality of the love of God and in full confidence accept the security of the assurance of sonship with the heavenly Father. The Master desires that all his followers should fully share his transcendent faith. Jesus most touchingly challenged his followers, not only to believe what he believed, but also to believe as he believed. This is the full significance of his one supreme requirement, “Follow me.” -The Urantia Book
2/29/2016 2:30:18 PM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 63, joined Feb. 2008 online now!	Jesus didn't believe. Jesus had been in Heaven and saw it all with His own Eyes. Jesus is now back in Heaven seeing with His own Eyes. Faith is believing that certain things are true because God said so, without us actually seeing them, so Jesus actually had/has no faith. "I saw Satan fall from Heaven like lightning." --Jesus (Luke 10:18) [Edited 2/29/2016 2:32:26 PM ]
3/5/2016 9:28:04 AM	Jesus, the Heartbeat of the World
aphrodisianus Leander, TX 66, joined Oct. 2013	Quote from ludlowlowell: Jesus didn't believe. Jesus had been in Heaven and saw it all with His own Eyes. Jesus is now back in Heaven seeing with His own Eyes. Faith is believing that certain things are true because God said so, without us actually seeing them, so Jesus actually had/has no faith. "I saw Satan fall from Heaven like lightning." --Jesus (Luke 10:18) What this really means is that you're superstitious ignoramus who believes in man made fairy tales about a copied pagan myth.

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