| 4/17/2016 7:40:02 PM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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ludlowlowell
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If we are allowed to pray to Jesus, and Jesus is just one of the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia, are we allowed to pray to the other 699,999 creator sons?
KB, FJO, what does the Urantia Book have to say about this
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| 4/17/2016 8:22:27 PM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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followjesusonly
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If we are allowed to pray to Jesus, and Jesus is just one of the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia, are we allowed to pray to the other 699,999 creator sons?
KB, FJO, what does the Urantia Book have to say about this
Creator Sons is capitalized. Our Creator Son, Jesus, is sovereign over 10 million inhabitable worlds of which ours is one. Our Creator Son, Jesus, is the only Creator Son we are concerned with. The others, we don't know, we just know about them. There would be no need and no reason to pray to them. Jesus is ours. Each of the other Creator Sons, as far as we know, is similarly sovereign over their own 10 million inhabitable worlds, and that adds up to 7 trillion inhabitable worlds in the greater universe. The idea that some have that our world is maybe the only one, is like if a farmer plowed up 160 acres for planting, and then planted one corn seed in one far corner of the field and left the rest fallow.
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| 4/17/2016 8:55:01 PM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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ludlowlowell
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What if creator son #414,877 and me became good pals, even though I lived in a different universe? (Someone could live in Dallas and be pals with the mayor of Ft. Worth, right?). Maybe we both liked baseball, or something? Could I talk to him in prayer, FJO?
(Sorry, I just can't bring myself to capitalize pagan gods.)
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| 4/17/2016 9:56:15 PM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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followjesusonly
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What if creator son #414,877 and me became good pals, even though I lived in a different universe? (Someone could live in Dallas and be pals with the mayor of Ft. Worth, right?). Maybe we both liked baseball, or something? Could I talk to him in prayer, FJO?
Child mode again. No point in answering your "What if..?" questions.
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| 4/18/2016 12:18:16 AM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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ludlowlowell
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Theoretically, could we talk in prayer to one of the other creator sons? Would God allow that?
We haven't heard from KB. What do you think, KB?
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| 4/18/2016 2:11:30 AM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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followjesusonly
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Theoretically, could we talk in prayer to one of the other creator sons?
I don't know.
Would God allow that?
I don't know.
Why would you want to? As far as I know The Urantia Book doesn't address our praying to any Creator Son but our own. He is our local personification of God.
We haven't heard from KB. What do you think, KB?
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| 4/18/2016 3:25:15 AM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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followjesusonly
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Also, there is only one Creator Son of Urantia, not 700.000. Jesus is His name.
And also, when you said, (Sorry, I just can't bring myself to capitalize pagan gods.), there are no pagan gods in The Urantia Book and I probably shouldn't have bothered answering your post at all because of that wrong premise. You're so clever.
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| 4/18/2016 6:18:46 AM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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ludlowlowell
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If it is okay to pray to the Creator Son Jesus it ought to be okay to pray to other creator sons.
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| 4/18/2016 9:07:25 AM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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kb2222
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All Paradise Creator Sons are the divine personification of God the Father in the local universe of their domain. Who did Jesus teach man to pray to, Ludlow?
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| 4/18/2016 12:53:58 PM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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ludlowlowell
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When Jesus taught the human race the Lord's Prayer He taught us to pray to the Father but He never limited Prayer to the Father only.
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| 4/18/2016 2:09:28 PM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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followjesusonly
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If it is okay to pray to the Creator Son Jesus it ought to be okay to pray to other creator sons.
Why don't you just "have it your way" and move on, little one?
If it's OK to call someone "dad," it should be OK to call priests, "Father," no matter what Jesus said.
And so on.
Just have it your way.
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| 4/18/2016 2:14:06 PM |
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followjesusonly
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When Jesus taught the human race the Lord's Prayer He taught us to pray to the Father but He never limited Prayer to the Father only.
Then go ahead and pray to whomever you want to pray to. Do what you want to do. And if Jesus does say not to do something, just do what YOU want to do anyway. He never limited praying to centipedes, so go ahead. And even if He does limit something, like limiting who you call "Father," if you want to do something else, just go ahead and do it. You can just say your church says Jesus is not to be taken seriously. Just do what you want to do.
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| 4/18/2016 2:43:24 PM |
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followjesusonly
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Catholic paraphrases of some verses for Ludlow:
Mat 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of Mary and the saints which are in heaven.
Mat 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and Mary and the saints which seeth in secret themself shall reward thee openly.
Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to Mary and the saints which is in secret; and Mary and the saints which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Mat 6:8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for Mary and the saints knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask them.
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| 4/18/2016 7:02:32 PM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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ludlowlowell
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So if it's okay to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of the Urantia Book, it must be okay to pray to the saints.
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| 4/18/2016 7:15:16 PM |
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followjesusonly
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So if it's okay to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of the Urantia Book, it must be okay to pray to the saints.
Whatever you say, little boy. Have it your way. Pray to your "saints" until you turn blue.
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| 4/18/2016 8:01:56 PM |
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kb2222
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When Jesus taught the human race the Lord's Prayer He taught us to pray to the Father but He never limited Prayer to the Father only.
You are so f...in corrupt why don't you just pray to the Pope who you call your infallible holy Father and be done with it?
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| 4/18/2016 8:45:01 PM |
Are we allowed to pray to the 700,000 creator sons of Urantia? |
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ludlowlowell
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How can the currently reigning pope hear my prayers, KB? He's not in Heaven or Purgatory. Now I might to St. Peter, or Pope St. Pius V, or Pope St. Pius X. Of course, all they can do is pray to God for me. I always have the option of going to God directly.
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| 4/18/2016 9:19:05 PM |
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kb2222
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No true and sincere son of God would refer to praying to God the Father as a "option."
Go ahead and pray to your dead popes. You are so corrupt, Ludlow.
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| 4/18/2016 11:14:15 PM |
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ludlowlowell
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But it is an option. God won't force us to do it.
I do agree that at least some direct prayers to God are necessary for salvation. In the Mass the entire thing, except the readings, sermon, and announcements, is a prayer directly to God.
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| 4/18/2016 11:19:43 PM |
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followjesusonly
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But it is an option. God won't force us to do it.
I do agree that at least some direct prayers to God are necessary for salvation. In the Mass the entire thing, except the readings, sermon, and announcements, is a prayer directly to God.
YOU PREACH THE FALSE GOSPELS OF THE DOCTRINES OF MEN.
NO DIRECT PRAYERS TO GOD ARE NECESSARY FOR SALVATION.
...MASTER, WHAT SHALL I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE? (LUKE 10:25)
"THOU SHALT LOVE THE LORD THY GOD WITH ALL THY HEART, AND WITH ALL THY SOUL, AND WITH ALL THY STRENGTH, AND WITH ALL THY MIND; AND THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF." (LUKE 10:27)
"NOT EVERY ONE WHO SAYS TO ME, LORD, LORD, SHALL ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN; BUT HE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN." (MATTHEW 7:21)
"FOR WHOSOEVER SHALL DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN, THE SAME IS MY BROTHER, AND SISTER, AND MOTHER." (MATTHEW 12:50)
THE MASS IS AN ABOMINATION AND IT'S IRRELEVANT.
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| 4/18/2016 11:55:49 PM |
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ludlowlowell
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I never said that no direct prayers to God are necessary for salvation. On the contrary I say that at least some direct prayers are. The Mass is one long direct Prayer to God.
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| 4/19/2016 1:40:38 AM |
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followjesusonly
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I never said that no direct prayers to God are necessary for salvation. On the contrary I say that at least some direct prayers are. The Mass is one long direct Prayer to God.
I understood what you said and I commented on that. You preach a false gospel. You said some direct prayers are necessary for salvation but none are. No direct prayers to God are necessary for salvation, the only thing that is necessary for salvation is to love God and love your neighbor as you love yourself, and the Mass is an abomination of primitive ritual cannibalism and re-sacrificing Jesus over and over again.
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| 4/19/2016 3:34:34 AM |
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ludlowlowell
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Without Prayer, it is impossible to love God or have a relationship with God if we don't pray to God. So Prayer to God IS necessary for salvation.
Why can't people see the truth of the Catholic religion? Because they don't pray.
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| 4/19/2016 3:05:29 PM |
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followjesusonly
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Without Prayer, it is impossible to love God or have a relationship with God if we don't pray to God. So Prayer to God IS necessary for salvation.
Why do you refuse to listen to Jesus? Prayer to God is NOT necessary. Doing the Father's will is all that is necessary:
"Not every one who says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." (Matthew 7:21)
"For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother." (Matthew 12:50)
"...Master, what shall I do to [be saved]? [Jesus] said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And [Jesus] said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. (Luke 10:25-28)
Why can't people see the truth of the Catholic religion? Because they don't pray.
No, it's because the Catholic religion is a false religion built on the doctrines of men and people can see that.
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