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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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What's right...with each
Who can SOLVE our problems...
Where are we really... Headed
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| 5/11/2016 2:50:58 PM |
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grande_mamon
Houston, TX
50, joined Sep. 2014
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Who can SOLVE our problems...
Putin, embrace the inevitable.
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| 5/11/2016 2:52:47 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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Putin scares me he got toys  but I believe US does too
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| 5/11/2016 2:54:49 PM |
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xray6
Jacksonville, FL
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liberals doesn't belon In the group
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| 5/11/2016 2:55:55 PM |
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serendipity1301
Baltimore, MD
49, joined Feb. 2013
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Capitalist liberalsocialist communist
Oh my!
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| 5/11/2016 2:56:36 PM |
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jer3552
Vale, OR
62, joined Oct. 2013
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liberals and socialist are first cousins.......Putin will be your comrade
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| 5/11/2016 2:57:01 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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Extremists donkeys elephants... Who can bring us out...or make everybody HAPPY 
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| 5/11/2016 3:02:53 PM |
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xray6
Jacksonville, FL
29, joined Mar. 2012
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none of them.
they all represent an extreme and closed way of thinking.
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| 5/11/2016 3:06:05 PM |
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xray6
Jacksonville, FL
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TheSpazRaz
New York, NY
39, joined Dec. 2015
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Putin scares me he got toys but I believe US does too
Putin is the only one who went in to Syria after ISIS which the US created and stopped the flow of terrorists to Europe...what does this tell you about Obama and Clinton including all leftists, Socialists and Liberals. I think Trump's idea is great...work with Russia and weaken China who is a threat. Look at our cities compared to China and their infrastructure ...a disgrace. China has built their country through slave labor and financed by the elite in making cheaper products to put Americans out of work to create more disunity. Why they allow illegals to invade our country and do nothing about drugs.
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| 5/11/2016 3:21:33 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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Putin is the only one who went in to Syria after ISIS which the US created and stopped the flow of terrorists to Europe...what does this tell you about Obama and Clinton including all leftists, Socialists and Liberals. I think Trump's idea is great...work with Russia and weaken China who is a threat. Look at our cities compared to China and their infrastructure ...a disgrace. China has built their country through slave labor and financed by the elite in making cheaper products to put Americans out of work to create more disunity. Why they allow illegals to invade our country and do nothing about drugs.
EXCELLENT but I understand differences... But the leaders should come together... For PEACE sakes among nations
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| 5/11/2016 3:27:39 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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none of them.
they all represent an extreme and closed way of thinking.
  
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| 5/11/2016 3:28:34 PM |
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grande_mamon
Houston, TX
50, joined Sep. 2014
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none of them.
they all represent an extreme and closed way of thinking.
That's an extreme and closed way of thinking
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| 5/11/2016 3:34:08 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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| 5/11/2016 3:48:59 PM |
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xray6
Jacksonville, FL
29, joined Mar. 2012
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none of them.
they all represent an extreme and closed way of thinking.
That's an extreme and closed way of thinking
not at all
it doesn't represent my train of thought other than my observation of the group's individually.
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| 5/11/2016 4:07:55 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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People r entitled... To their Opinions, BUT ITS better to AGREE... Sometimes
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| 5/11/2016 4:23:16 PM |
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
73, joined Nov. 2008
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People r entitled... To their Opinions, BUT ITS better to AGREE... Sometimes
to AGREE = Negotiate COMPROMISE, to give and receive.. balance !
Power to the People
"When government fears the people, we have LIBERTY !"
"When the people fear the government, we have TYRANNY !"
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| 5/11/2016 4:24:58 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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All the leaders...r GENIUS
I thought they...solved all WOES
HELLO BLUE...
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| 5/11/2016 4:28:03 PM |
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TheSpazRaz
New York, NY
39, joined Dec. 2015
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EXCELLENT but I understand differences... But the leaders should come together... For PEACE sakes among nations
Like on DH you mean...where lying sociopaths try to control the site. Without fighting back there is no freedom or democracy...funny considering in this case Obama and Clinton want to destroy the world and Putin supposedly the evil one fought back. Without Trump in the White House there will be war...Clinton will be eaten by Russia and China and she is also corrupt.
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| 5/11/2016 4:33:39 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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SPAZ... RUSSIA China USA DH
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| 5/11/2016 4:34:54 PM |
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
73, joined Nov. 2008
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"A politician is a fellow who will lay down your life for his country." ~ Texas Guinan
"Politics: [ Poly "many" + tics = "blood-sucking parasites" ] ~ Larry Hardiman
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." ~ Aesop
"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished
by being governed by those who are dumber." ~ Plato
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| 5/11/2016 4:46:29 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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Boy just think of the days ...when the people... Stormed the castle or gas chamber
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| 5/11/2016 5:06:50 PM |
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bumblebee7
Fort Payne, AL
62, joined Apr. 2011
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What's right...with each
Who can SOLVE our problems...
Where are we really... Headed
We can solve our problems, if we can put differences aside and unite again for common causes.
We did that before and "they" didn't like it....so they divided us into opposing forces to fight with each other.
...and it worked like a charm.
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| 5/11/2016 5:10:00 PM |
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TheSpazRaz
New York, NY
39, joined Dec. 2015
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Quote from stanleyzee:
"SPAZ... RUSSIA China USA DH "
It's society...a new world order. The elites don't want individuality...less profits for them. People are different and have the right to be different. Corruption is a bad thing...just look what it did to DH. Disunity sells...liars u8sually fail due to their own evil. Has nothing to do with religion...it has to do with doing what's right.
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| 5/11/2016 5:10:57 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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We can solve our problems, if we can put differences aside and unite again for common causes.
We did that before and "they" didn't like it....so they divided us into opposing forces to fight with each other.
...and it worked like a charm.
EXCELLENT Bumble  hope ur day been OK
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| 5/11/2016 5:12:46 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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When George SR spoke of nwo I couldn't see...now I can
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| 5/11/2016 5:12:52 PM |
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bumblebee7
Fort Payne, AL
62, joined Apr. 2011
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Its been good.
as far as all this.
If the country gets too bad off.
I'll either resort to the deep mtns or desert...or find another country.
but, the odds are it won't get that bad, until I'm gone anyway.
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| 5/11/2016 5:17:06 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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Anybody remember... When America, could SLEEP... With their doors open
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| 5/11/2016 5:22:43 PM |
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bumblebee7
Fort Payne, AL
62, joined Apr. 2011
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^^^^yep....and I remember going trick or treating with a group of kids ranging from 4-9 years old....with no parents or cops having to watch us.
I remember being 8 or 9 and "walking" home from school...then going off for the afternoon with some friends miles from home.
And all Mom was concerned with was me being home for supper.
Why? because it was safe enough to do that, and no one thought of perverts or gangs, and etc.
But, the reason why it was like that is the Constitution was only a guideline, not followed word for word, and people paid for their mistakes the hard way and cops could prevent crimes...their way, instead of being report writers after the fact.
The bar has raised high in how people should be, and if you didn't reach that,...you didn't get what the ones who did reach it got.
Etc...etc.
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| 5/11/2016 5:29:26 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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Bumble... Times we live in NOW... Is 
But I like ur description of yesteryear 
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| 5/11/2016 5:39:37 PM |
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
73, joined Nov. 2008
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When George SR spoke of nwo I couldn't see...now I can
" The time has come, It is time to usher in the "New World Order" ". 
I seen it right away... and new exactly what he meant.
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After 9/11 Bush jr. said in a big speach: "The people that knocked
down these building, will soon be hearing from ALL or 'US' soon"
and then he said:
" Somethings you will be told and somethings you will not be told. Now there will
be a government behind the government that will be in control" < ( Paraphrasing )
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| 5/11/2016 5:42:32 PM |
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alls_fair
Thorlákshöfn
Iceland
97, joined May. 2011
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If you are asking which of the above groups will do the best job of generating MORE problems, put me down for all of the above!
If you are asking which of those groups can actually solve ANY problems, put me down for NONE of the above...
Take a gander at the clusterf**k of the European Union to see your future!
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| 5/11/2016 5:49:26 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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BLUE  and Fair EU/10 will UNITE(toes) or 7 heads...
Fort Meade, Maryland/NSA
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| 5/11/2016 5:56:54 PM |
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chris3357m
Ashley, OH
30, joined Dec. 2012
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"A politician is a fellow who will lay down your life for his country." ~ Texas Guinan
"Politics: [ Poly "many" + tics = "blood-sucking parasites" ] ~ Larry Hardiman
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." ~ Aesop
"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished
by being governed by those who are dumber." ~ Plato
 10/10, would read again. thanks for the laugh. is that a real plato quote? that's awesome.
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| 5/11/2016 6:02:15 PM |
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
73, joined Nov. 2008
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* Yesteryear's
Days of the old west, pretty girls with long hair, wearing colorful gigume
and flower sack clothe dresses down past their knees, with petty coats of white.
Undersides to only be reveled when UP comes a very strong brezzz !
Penny candies for all the kids. 
Cafe: Stake, potatoes, biscuits & gravy - apple pie and coffee, was just $0.50
Horse shit in the streets and peaceful greetful people met you on the board walk. 
But it's now, the "HERE AND NOW" these are the good old days !
" - BE HERE NOW - NOW BE HERE - HERE BE NOW - BE NOW HERE - " - BlueCougarEyes
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| 5/11/2016 6:07:20 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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* Yesteryear's
Days of the old west, pretty girls with long hair, wearing colorful gigume
and flower sack clothe dresses down past their knees, with petty coats of white.
Undersides to only be reveled when UP comes a very strong brezzz !
Penny candies for all the kids.
Cafe: Stake, potatoes, biscuits & gravy - apple pie and coffee, was just $0.50
Horse shit in the streets and peaceful greetful people met you on the board walk.
But it's now, the "HERE AND NOW" these are the good old days !
" - BE HERE NOW - NOW BE HERE - HERE BE NOW - BE NOW HERE - " - BlueCougarEyes
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| 5/11/2016 6:07:57 PM |
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
73, joined Nov. 2008
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Now you got me really cracking up... LMAO..
"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished
by being governed by those who are dumber." ~ Plato
Got to go work
later....
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| 5/11/2016 6:11:18 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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THXXXXXX BLUE
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| 5/11/2016 6:24:29 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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BLUE and Fair EU/10 will UNITE(toes) or 7 heads...
Fort Meade, Maryland/NSA 
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| 5/11/2016 6:39:45 PM |
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chairman_drth
Toronto, ON
47, joined Dec. 2015
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Stanleyzee,
What's right...with each
Who can SOLVE our problems...
Where are we really... Headed
What is right with capitalism? It encourages individualism, prosperity, and rewards the productive.
What is wright with Liberals? Well they champion or think they champion for the underprivileged .
What is right with socialism? For 95% of the population it’s not good, it’s only good for the central planners in charge and for those who are lazy and unproductive.
What is right with communism? NOTHING.
Who can solve our problems? Only the individual can.
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| 5/11/2016 6:42:05 PM |
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bandit__geezer
FujianFujian
China
58, joined Oct. 2015
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Who is John Galt?
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| 5/11/2016 6:45:03 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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CD nice descriptive breakdown
Bandit looking good
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| 5/11/2016 7:59:36 PM |
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TheSpazRaz
New York, NY
39, joined Dec. 2015
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Mexico wants war with ElGringo...let me at them!
Vicente Fox Warns of “War” if Trump Becomes President
Former Mexican president: "Don't play around with us, we can jump walls"
Paul Joseph Watson - May 11, 2016
In comments glossed over by the media, former Mexican President Vicente Fox warned that the election of Donald Trump could lead to a “war” between Mexico and the United States.
Former Mexican President Vicente Fox Donald Trump Is an ‘ Ugly American ‘ the ‘ Hated Gringo ’.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVXzGKCFtCY
During an appearance on the Kickass Politics podcast, Fox accused Trump of ushering in a return to “the era of the ugly American.”
Media reports on Fox’s comments focused on his throwback use of the word “gringo,” to describe a time when Americans were “hated all around the world,” but the former Mexican leader made even more inflammatory remarks when he suggested that Donald Trump’s rhetoric could lead to a conflict between the U.S. and Mexico.
“He is the hated gringo because he’s attacking all of us, he’s offending all of us, I mean imagine – that could take us to a war – not to a trade war,” said Fox.
Adding that Mexicans were small but “like the jalapeno,” Fox warned, “Don’t play around with us. We can jump walls. We can swim rivers. And we can defend ourselves.”
Fox appears to be flip-flopping between being aggressive and conciliatory towards Trump. After angrily asserting that Mexico would not pay for Trump’s “f*cking wall” during an interview earlier this year, he subsequently apologized, reminding himself that leaders need to be “humble”.
Fox’s ludicrous assertion that Trump’s offensive rhetoric could lead to an armed conflict between the U.S. and Mexico suggests he isn’t following his own advice.
“Is this guy out of his freakin’ mind?” asks Brian Anderson. “He was the president of Mexico so presumably he is aware of the Mexican military’s severe limitations, especially in confronting the world’s only superpower.”
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| 5/11/2016 8:05:12 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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Mexico might surprise some and I thought Russia and China were stockpiling too ...
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| 5/11/2016 8:21:49 PM |
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TheSpazRaz
New York, NY
39, joined Dec. 2015
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Obamacare Double-Digit Increases Threaten Democrats
Many states saw double-digit premium increase requests last year
Chriss W. Street | Breitbart - May 11, 2016
Expected double-digit Obamacare health insurance premium hikes coming just one week before the November 7 election are expected to drag the program’s favorability ratings to new lows, as support from independents and Democrats continues to fade.
The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office’s latest estimate for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) anticipates that the cost of tax credits to subsidize insurers participating in exchanges will rise from $37 billion in fiscal year 2015 to $56 billion in 2016, and $105 billion by 2025.
Despite an Obama administration estimate in March 2010 that the average cost of subsidies per enrollee would be about $2,810, the average cost for the 13 million subscribers in 2016 averaged $4,308.
Marilyn Tavenner, President and CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans, warned on April 20 that the culmination of market shifts that insurers have faced over several years will cause a stark rise in health insurance rates on Obamacare exchanges.
According to a new Blue Cross Blue Shield Association report reviewing millions of private and public healthcare subscribers, Obamacare enrollees’ average cost of care at $559 per month in 2015 was 22 percent higher than the $457 for employer-sponsored health plan subscribers.
Obamacare enrollees were found to have higher rates for costly medical problems such as diabetes, depression, hypertension, heart disease, HIV and Hepatitis C. They also use more medical services — including emergency rooms, in-patient hospital care, doctors and prescriptions than patients in employer-sponsored plans.
Many states saw double-digit premium increase requests last year, but the final average rate increases were about 8 percent. After subsidies and plan shopping were accounted for, a consumer only paid an average of 4.0 percent more than the prior year.
But with UnitedHealthcare withdrawing and Humana threatening to leave Obamacare, shrinking competition is freeing premiums to skyrocket this year. Although rate negotiations are usually kept confidential, early state announcements include:
Virginia, Anthem Inc and Carefirst BlueCross BlueShield are asking regulators for 15.8 and 25 percent premium increases, respectively;
Oregon’s Providence Health Plan, the state’s largest Obamacare provider, is asking for a 29.6 percent increase, while Moda Health Plan Inc wants a 32.3 percent increase and the Kaiser Foundation Health Plan of the Northwest wants a 5 percent increase.
The latest Kaiser Health Foundation Tracking poll shows a growing disapproval of the Affordable Care Act, with 49 percent of adults having an unfavorable view and only 38 percent showing support. Over the last month, the share of Democrats voicing unfavorable opinions about Obamacare increased by 6 percentage points, and the percentage of independents doing so increased by 5 percent.
Although Hillary Clinton and congressional Democrats have lauded Obamacare as an epic accomplishment, the Associated Press has reported that rank-and-file party members are have growing doubts about Obamacare due to disappointing enrollment figures and complaints about soaring premiums and out-of-pocket costs.
Most big Obamacare exchanges like California’s Covered California require insurers to file their rate requests by June, negotiate with the exchanges over the summer, and send out final rates to enrollees on November 1.
If voters are upset by Obamacare double-digit rate increases, they will be able to express their anger on November 7,
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| 5/11/2016 8:25:25 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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If u read project LUCID... Ull see things
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| 5/11/2016 10:10:54 PM |
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TheSpazRaz
New York, NY
39, joined Dec. 2015
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Saudis Braced for Release of Hidden Pages of 9/11 Report
Thought to include claim that Princess Haifa, wife of then Saudi ambassador Prince Bandar, sent money to hijackers...
Dave Clark | AFP - May 11, 2016
Washington (AFP) - Saudi Arabia is confident nothing in a secret 28-page section of a US congressional report on the September 11 attacks implicates its leaders.
But some officials worry its eventual publication -- 15 years after the assault on New York and Washington -- will stir suspicion at a time of tense ties.
In December 2002, a year after the attacks, the House and Senate committees on intelligence published a report into the US investigation into them.
But the then president, George W. Bush, ordered that 28 pages of the report be classified to protect the methods and identities of US intelligence sources.
Last month, former senator Bob Graham said the pages should be made public and alleged Saudi officials had provided assistance to the 9/11 hijackers.
Graham, who was the Senate intelligence committee chairman, said the White House had told him they will decide by June whether to declassify the pages.
The issue of alleged -- and fiercely denied -- Saudi involvement in the attacks has been brought up again by attempts to lodge a law suit against the kingdom.
Relatives of some of the American victims of the hijackers are lobbying Congress to pass a law lifting Saudi Arabia's sovereign immunity from liability.
- Mystery pages -
But Riyadh insists it has nothing to fear from the mysterious 28 pages and that US investigators have thoroughly debunked all the allegations they contain.
"Our position, since 2002 when the report first came out, was 'release the pages'," Saudi foreign minister Adel al-Jubeir told reporters in Geneva last week.
"We know from other senior US officials that the charges made in the 28 pages do not stand up to scrutiny. And so yes, release the 28 pages."
For most in Washington, the congressional report was superseded in July 2004 by the final report of the separate 9/11 Commission set up by Bush.
This found no evidence of official Saudi complicity -- but the ongoing secrecy surrounding Congress' earlier 28 pages has continued to stir suspicion.
"We can't rebut charges if we're being charged by ghosts in the form of 28 pages," Jubeir said.
"But every four or five years this issue comes up and it's like a sword over our head. Release it."
Jubeir added that, thanks to multiple leaks in the years since the congressional report was locked away in a safe on Capitol Hill, he can guess what it says.
"Nothing stays a secret," he said. "So we know that it's a lot of innuendo and insinuations."
So what exactly are the secret allegations?
The 28 pages are thought to include a claim that Princess Haifa, the wife of then Saudi ambassador Prince Bandar, sent money to the hijackers.
Princess Haifa sent thousands of dollars to Osama Basnan, a Saudi living in San Diego who befriended 9/11 hijackers Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar.
Investigators were told the money was to pay to treat Basnan's wife for thyroid cancer. The 9/11 Commission found no evidence it was passed to the hijackers.
Another likely allegation in the missing pages concerns Omar al-Bayoumi, a Saudi civil aviation official who had been studying in California.
Bayoumi was arrested in England 10 days after the September 11 attacks and questioned by British and US authorities before being released without charge.
It is thought the missing pages cite allegations that he met Hazmi and Mihdhar at a Los Angeles restaurant.
- Clandestine ties? -
Later he helped the pair settle in San Diego, leading to suspicions that he was acting on behalf of Saudi paymasters to help prepare the Al-Qaeda attack.
But the 9/11 Commission report said FBI investigators found Bayoumi to be "an unlikely candidate for clandestine involvement with Islamist extremists."
Whatever allegations are in the missing pages of the congressional report, Saudi Arabia's defenders will point to the later 9/11 Commission report.
"Saudi Arabia has long been considered the primary source of Al-Qaeda funding," it said.
"But we have found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization."
But if Riyadh is so confident in its defense, why then the nervousness about the release?
Reports allege the kingdom threatened to withdraw $750 billion in investments from the United States if Congress strips it of its immunity in US courts.
This claim triggered outrage -- the tabloid New York Daily News reported it under the headline "Royal Scum" -- but Jubeir denies it amounted to a threat.
"Nonsense," he declared, arguing Riyadh had simply warned the legislation being considered by Congress would overturn the idea of sovereign immunity.
"It's a simple principle and it protects everybody, including the United States," he said.
"We said a law like this is going to cause investor confidence to shrink, not just for Saudi Arabia but for everybody," he added.
"But this idea that 'Oh my God, now the Saudis are threatening us'? We don't threaten things."
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| 5/11/2016 10:14:24 PM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012
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I heard in 2006 that...and there are 10 superpowers of the world
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| 5/11/2016 11:50:19 PM |
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TheSpazRaz
New York, NY
39, joined Dec. 2015
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HERE WE GO AGAIN!
‘We’re not afraid’: Second Standoff Looms As Bundy Women Rally to Protect Cattle
Activists demand government seize cattle from family
Adan Salazar - May 11, 2016
A second standoff could be in the works if the government gives in to environmental activists’ demands to confiscate livestock owned by Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, the man’s wife asserts.
Speaking to The Guardian regarding calls from various wildlife groups asking the BLM to seize the embattled family’s cattle, Angie Bundy predicts the fallout of such actions would result in a bigger protest than the historic standoff that occurred in April 2014.
“We’re not afraid,” Angie says. “If you have a bunch of women and children standing out there and protesting, it’ll probably get more people out.”
Cliven Bundy, 70, along with two of his sons, was arrested in Oregon earlier this year on felony charges related to the standoff that occurred near his land two years earlier.
On Monday, a group of nine environmental organizations petitioned BLM Director Neil Kornze for prompt removal of the Bundy livestock claiming their grazing habits endangered the Mojave desert tortoise’s habitat.
“As you are certainly aware, livestock grazing has direct and indirect adverse impacts on tortoise populations, ranging from crushing individuals and trampling dens to altering habitat in ways that reduce forage availability and nutrition for animals,” their letter to the BLM states.
In 2014, a range ecology expert has demonstrated and proved through the historical record a co-dependent relationship between the desert tortoise and grazing cattle. A related report shows how the BLM itself was also responsible for the deaths of hundreds of tortoises during the 90s and early 2000s. )
The groups theorize that with the Bundy patriarchs behind bars, the BLM should encounter significantly less resistance than during its previous cattle confiscation effort.
“Though we were disappointed that the April 2014 removal effort was not successful, we understand that the safety risks at that time were real. But now that Mr. Bundy and many of his allies are being held in federal prisons for their actions during the 2014 round-up event, we believe the threat to agency personnel on the ground is substantially less than it was two year ago. Therefore, we urge you to now take action to remove the trespass cattle that have been threatening the Mojave desert tortoise for over twenty years.”
“I really believe they’ve conveniently put our men in jails so they can come after our land and our resources,” Angie suspects.
According to Bundy’s daughter Baily Logue, the ranch is being maintained by the Bundy women and the cattle are currently in “great health.”
“Us women know how to ranch just like the guys do … The ranch is in great hands,” Logue says.
On Tuesday, lawyers for Cliven Bundy filed a lawsuit against high level government officials including House Minority Leader Harry Reid and President Barack Obama.
The complaint, submitted in Nevada district court, alleges “illegal, unconstitutional, intentional and malicious acts” on the part of the federal government and claims violations of the sixth, second, first and eighth amendments, and seeks a $50 million reward for damages.
The lawsuit charges Cliven Bundy has been subject to “cruel and usual punishment” as he has been in solitary confinement since his arrest in February. In addition to financial compensation, it asks for Bundy’s release from prison and dismissal of the indictment against him.
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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So what group r they in...
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| 5/12/2016 1:01:37 AM |
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TheSpazRaz
New York, NY
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Who?
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| 5/12/2016 1:26:59 AM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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Al Bundy yeah BUDDYYYYY ...got yo A** just puff a joint my head is open 
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| 5/12/2016 1:31:03 AM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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I had to scold/argue...with a 7 years old MOTHER today...28 years old...told her to watch her daughtercuz me aint babysitting
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didntreadyrnove
New York, NY
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Wow I thought that said "a 7 year old mother" I was gonna say "stan even I don't believe that" lol
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TheSpazRaz
New York, NY
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I wish I knew what the hell you're talking about have the time...at least you're not as bad as Fly.
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| 5/12/2016 1:43:36 AM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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THXXXXXX YALL 
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| 5/12/2016 1:44:20 AM |
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didntreadyrnove
New York, NY
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All stans X's live in Texas lol
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| 5/12/2016 1:46:00 AM |
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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BULLSHIT
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| 5/12/2016 1:57:40 AM |
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
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Capitalism is class warfare. Liberals are capitalists. Socialism/communism is government by the working class (i.e., the producers of wealth) rather than the capitalist parasites.
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Trump backs end to the federal minimum wage
By Patrick Martin
11 May 2016
World Socialist Web Site
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/05/11/trum-m11.html
Excerpts:
In interviews Sunday on two television networks, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump rejected calls for an increase in the federal minimum wage and suggested that the federal standard should be scrapped.
Trump was questioned on the subject on the NBC program “Meet the Press” and on ABC’s “This Week” and gave similar responses. NBC interviewer Chuck Todd reminded him of his statement during a Republican debate that the federal minimum wage should not be increased. This was the same debate in which Trump said flatly, “Wages are too high,” and would have to be lowered to make American companies competitive.
Trump tried to combine verbal expressions of sympathy with the plight of low-paid workers with the rejection of any federal action to improve their living standards. “I don't know how people make it on $7.25 an hour,” he began. “Now, with that being said, I would like to see an increase of some magnitude. But I'd rather leave it to the states. Let the states decide. Because don't forget, the states have to compete with each other.”
Todd pressed him, asking, “Should the federal government set a floor, and then you let the states…” Trump interrupted, “No, I’d rather have the states go out and do what they have to do.”
Trump’s call for the elimination of the federal minimum wage is a reactionary proposal and an attack on the living standards of the working class. It provides an indication, behind his pseudo-populist rhetoric, of the brutal assault on what remains of legal protections for workers that would be a centerpiece of a Trump administration. Posing as a friend of the coal miners in West Virginia last week, he called for the elimination of regulations on the coal companies, i.e., the gutting of health and safety rules as well as environmental restraints.
In suggesting that the federal minimum wage be dispensed with, and that the power to set a floor on wages be left to the states, which he pointed out “have to compete with each other,” Trump is advocating a race to the bottom, in which governors and legislatures would offer minimum wage reductions and exemptions, just as they offer tax concessions, to entice companies to locate in their state.
This gives a glimpse of the savage right-wing policies that a Trump administration would institute, behind the billionaire’s demagogy about restoring the jobs of coal miners, steel workers and other manufacturing workers.
It is also notable that while seeking to disguise his right-wing proposal on the minimum wage with clouds of words, Trump was far more specific in his pledges to Wall Street on taxes and the national debt.
After several days of contradictory statements on both subjects, in which Trump appeared to suggest that he would raise rather than lower taxes on the wealthy and that he would seek to renegotiate US government debt to the disadvantage of the creditors, the presumptive Republican nominee gave a lengthy interview to the Wall Street Journal to reassure the financial markets.
He told the Journal that taxes on corporations and the wealthy would be cut under a Trump administration.
Even more significantly, Trump categorically rejected any change in payments on the US federal debt, which is held mainly by the wealthiest investors in the United States and internationally and by all major financial institutions. “This is the United States government,” he told the Journal. “The bonds are absolutely sacred.”
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
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Capitalism is class warfare. Liberals are capitalists.
Broken Promises & the Minimum Wage
Wed, 11/13/2013
Bruce A. Dixon
Black Agenda Report
http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/progressive-sheepdogs-democrat-sheep-broken-promises-minimum-wage
Excerpt:
The problem with this of course, is that whenever Democrats are in charge of Congress, they never try to raise the minimum wage. It's a promise they make to get elected, and something you never hear about again until they're safely in the minority again and need something to blame the evil Republicans for blocking. Let's be clear, evil Republicans did not block efforts by President Obama or Congressional Democrats to raise the minimum wage in 2010 and 2011, when they controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. During that time, there were no bills introduced to raise the minimum wage. There were no presidential speeches or off the cuff presidential remarks mentioning raising the minimum wage. There was no pressure from the White House or Democrat leadership in the House or Senate to raise the minimum wage
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