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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)
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| 8/9/2016 5:40:19 PM |
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jillybodob
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Cup, are you even remotely suggesting that Donald, like the New Black Panthers and Spike Lee, put out a 'public hit notice?' Is that where you are going with this?
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| 8/9/2016 5:43:35 PM |
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mr_bad_robot
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Cup is drinking already by midnight she will slobbering drunk. 
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| 8/9/2016 5:48:01 PM |
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cherisays
Lancaster, CA
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Something aint right with cup, click on groups and "all state chats" and then scroll down while looking at the last poster..
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amusicluvr
Salem, OR
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I tend to suspect that Hillary's protectors are a bit more skilled than any hitters Trump could hire. Even if they weren't, and Hillary was killed, some nasty characters would come out of retirement to avenge her, and then Trump and all around him, would be worm food.
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New Hope, PA
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The LORD OF THE LIES displaying his stupidity once again,he definitely is a few cents short of a dollar.
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mymanbarak
South Dartmouth, MA
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I hope they arrest him hahahahahahaha
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
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I hope they arrest him hahahahahahaha
For what?
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| 8/9/2016 6:14:01 PM |
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hercules2010
Dubois, IN
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Something aint right with cup, click on groups and "all state chats" and then scroll down while looking at the last poster..
What the Hell! I just checked there and There are hundreds if not thousands of posts by cupocheer.
Every state.
Every thread in every state.
Multiple posts in every thread.
Someone has a mental problem. That is not normal!
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| 8/9/2016 6:16:53 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Start with this:
(entire code must be read -- inciting is covered)
18 U.S.C. § 879 : US Code - Section 879: Threats against former Presidents and certain other persons
Search 18 U.S.C. § 879 : US Code - Section 879: Threats against former Presidents and certain other persons
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(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully threatens to kill, kidnap, or
inflict bodily harm upon -
(1) a former President or a member of the immediate family of a
former President;
(2) a member of the immediate family of the President, the
President-elect, the Vice President, or the Vice President-elect;
(3) a major candidate for the office of President or Vice
President, or a member of the immediate family of such candidate;
or
(4) a person protected by the Secret Service under section
3056(a)(6);
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5
years, or both.
(b) As used in this section -
(1) the term "immediate family" means -
(A) with respect to subsection (a)(1) of this section, the
wife of a former President during his lifetime, the widow of a
former President until her death or remarriage, and minor
children of a former President until they reach sixteen years
of age; and
(B) with respect to subsection (a)(2) and (a)(3) of this
section, a person to whom the President, President-elect, Vice
President, Vice President-elect, or major candidate for the
office of President or Vice President -
(i) is related by blood, marriage, or adoption; or
(ii) stands in loco parentis;
(2) the term "major candidate for the office of President or
Vice President" means a candidate referred to in subsection
(a)(7) of section 3056 of this title; and
(3) the terms "President-elect" and "Vice President-elect" have
the meanings given those terms in section 871(b) of this title.
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| 8/9/2016 6:24:57 PM |
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thekinghasrisen
San Diego, CA
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I listened to the statement, and I have to say: I don't see a threatening statement there, given my understanding about how Donald Trump's speech pattern works.
He's got a head full of mash potatoes, and says stuff that sounds stupid to normal people. That's not exactly the same as calling for the assassination of the opposing political nominee.
What I will say is that the face on the 'old man in red' to his right when he says it indicates that the media aren't the only one's who thought they caught a 'hidden meaning' to his words. 
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nycman530
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I listened to the video and there are other ways it can be interpreted. 2nd Amendment supporters can prevent her from manipulating their 2nd Amendment rights, taking action by voting against her in the ballot box. I think that's what he may have meant. Because if she is elected, she puts in her judges, signs executive orders, then it's too late to stop her. And as a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment, I know as a group we are as law abiding as any group. If we vote against her we're exercising our rights and stopping her. Perhaps he could have used a better choice of words, though.
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| 8/9/2016 6:29:08 PM |
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cherisays
Lancaster, CA
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I didn't hear it but I assume, like everything else, it was spun by the media to sound like they wanted it to be heard.
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| 8/9/2016 6:32:09 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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And this:
(Enemy does not have to be foreign nor wartime -- Dinald Trump considers Hillary Clinton his "enemy" -- he has stated so publically.)
NYC -- Regardless of how YOU perceive the tape, government officials, whose job it is to recognize this type of dangerous rhetoric have already taken action in regards to this "threat" from Trump. Face it, you can't whitewash his a** this time.
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
US Code
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §?330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
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nycman530
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And this:
(Enemy does not have to be foreign nor wartime -- Dinald Trump considers Hillary Clinton his "enemy" -- he has stated so publically.)
NYC -- Regardless of how YOU perceive the tape, government officials, whose job it is to recognize this type of dangerous rhetoric have already taken action in regards to this "threat" from Trump. Face it, you can't whitewash his a** this time.
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
US Code
Notes
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §?330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
You mean like the Clintons' asses have been whitewashed after all the people who died that were associated with them, many mysteriously and several right before they were ready to testify? And considering Hillary's health issues, it's unlikely she'd make it for 2 years if she were to be elected, which I don't think will happen.
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| 8/9/2016 6:43:12 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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TRUMP HAS COMMITTED A TREASONOUS ACT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES
Trump has invited gun violence to STOP Hillary Clinton, a US presidential nominee.
DUMP THIS MENTAL JACKASS
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| 8/9/2016 6:45:00 PM |
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cherisays
Lancaster, CA
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But you ignore shillary's treason..
I think I saw a state chat where you didn't post last.
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| 8/9/2016 6:46:15 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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TRUMP HAS COMMITTED A TREASONOUS ACT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES
Trump has invited gun violence to STOP Hillary Clinton, a US presidential nominee..
DUMP THIS MENTAL JACKASS
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| 8/9/2016 6:47:35 PM |
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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To be an American means you have to be an American in every way. There are no African Americans, or Mexican Americans, or Muslim Americans etc... There are only Americans.
And this:
(Enemy does not have to be foreign nor wartime -- Dinald Trump considers Hillary Clinton his "enemy" -- he has stated so publically.)
NYC -- Regardless of how YOU perceive the tape, government officials, whose job it is to recognize this type of dangerous rhetoric have already taken action in regards to this "threat" from Trump. Face it, you can't whitewash his a** this time.
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
US Code
Notes
prev | next
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §?330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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There are only Native Americans -- immigrant.
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| 8/9/2016 6:50:51 PM |
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| 8/9/2016 6:55:16 PM |
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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True, I'm not an American Indian. I'm just an American.
There are only Native Americans -- immigrant.
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| 8/9/2016 7:14:49 PM |
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cupocheer
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TRUMP HAS COMMITTED A TREASONOUS ACT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES
Trump has invited gun violence to STOP Hillary Clinton, a US presidential nominee.
DUMP THIS MENTAL JACKASS
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| 8/9/2016 7:36:01 PM |
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
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Something aint right with cup, click on groups and "all state chats" and then scroll down while looking at the last poster..
""" Listen Asswipe """
She just a life long 24/7 TROLL on DH
She needs treatment but can't afford it... please help her with your $$ donations !
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| 8/9/2016 7:36:58 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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TRUMP HAS COMMITTED A TREASONOUS ACT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES
Trump has invited gun violence to STOP Hillary Clinton, a US presidential nominee.
DUMP THIS MENTAL JACKASS
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| 8/9/2016 7:38:59 PM |
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cherisays
Lancaster, CA
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I think cup's marbles fell out all over the floor and her 100 cats are having a blast!
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| 8/9/2016 7:41:27 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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TRUMP HAS COMMITTED A TREASONOUS ACT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES
Trump has invited gun violence to STOP Hillary Clinton, a US presidential nominee.
DUMP THIS MENTAL JACKASS.
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| 8/9/2016 7:58:31 PM |
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reginamc
Las Vegas, NV
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crazy woman ..... 
do you remember your girl Hillary saying this when she was running against Obama in 2008?
“My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right?” she said. “We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/24/us/politics/24clinton.html
There was a lot of outrage about that one also, you know, implying that, well, you never know, Obama could be assassinated or something. Could be taken as a threat, you know, if you're DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR IT. Give it up already.
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mr_bad_robot
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What we are witnessing here folks is cup having a short circuit.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Statement released by Hillary Clinton, 2008
“Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That’s a historic fact. The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family.”
Not one iota of sameness to the treasonous comments to incite gun violence to STOL Hillary Clinton that Trump spewed today.
Live with Republicans.
Trump is scum.
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
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I think cup's marbles fell out all over the floor and her 100 cats are having a blast!
^^^ I bet she's SCREAMING OUT LOWED just like The Hillary dose.
Their both going to blow some blood vesicles in
their brains and have a brain seasure !
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winkwink2u
Dacula, GA
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I didn't hear it but I assume, like everything else, it was spun by the media to sound like they wanted it to be heard.
EXACTLY... That's what they've done to everything...
AND the polling is being manipulated by all the media polling agencies..
He didn't attack and blatantly insult the Gold Star Khan family.. you noticed how the media never mentioned what Trump said, just that it was so terrible..The media just kept saying "unbelievable insults".. there may have been a little by not having more empathy BUT hell the Father insulted Trump without even knowing him. He was a political hack..
The Media is finding every little thing and planning aan entire set of nightly show s around it, in hopes to weaken Trump's persona...
I hope many can see through the corruption in play here..
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
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Statement released by CROOKED LYING Hillary Clinton, 2008
AND...
The Nations Champion lying obama says
* ^^^^ TRUE THAT !!!
*
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cherisays
Lancaster, CA
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Statement released by Hillary Clinton, 2008
“Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That’s a historic fact. The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family.”
Not one iota of sameness to the treasonous comments to incite gun violence to STOL Hillary Clinton that Trump spewed today.
Live with Republicans.
Trump is scum.
Now why wont YOU quote TRUMP in CONTEXT?? Asswipe loon!
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Now why wont YOU quote TRUMP in CONTEXT?? Asswipe loon!
You quote him. Your fkn fingers ain't broke.
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| 8/9/2016 8:25:13 PM |
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cherisays
Lancaster, CA
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You made the claim..
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cupocheer
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You made the accusation.
I reported the news. I made no claim.
Comprehension, dear.
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cherisays
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You didn't report SHIT!! There was no link in your original post, it was you spouting your B.S.
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amusicluvr
Salem, OR
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Statement released by CROOKED LYING Hillary Clinton, 2008
AND...
The Nations Champion lying obama says
* ^^^^ TRUE THAT !!!
*
Idiot. Being a liar is a large part of what makes her qualified. This IS politics, after all. So, Obama was right BOTH times.
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cupocheer
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You didn't report SHIT!! There was no link in your original post, it was you spouting your B.S.
WOW!
Speaking of spouting.. 
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fyathyrio
Savannah, GA
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More scare tactics by Trump saying Hillary wants to take your guns away. Are you dumb enough to believe this? How do folks still fall for this BS. Anyway, Trump said that the 2nd amendment folks might be able to do something about Hilary and possible supreme court appointees. He also said right after that that "It would a horrible day" if it happened. So, if you are suggesting that this is anything other than what's obvious to everybody, you are an imbecile. Trump is purposely tanking. He does not want to be president and his supporters are being taken for a ride. What a bunch of stupid goat f**king, backwoods, uninformed, uneducated, dimwitted, f**ktards these f**king goat f**kers are. Are you offended ???? Good Please have a stroke
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mymanbarak
South Dartmouth, MA
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Cup these people are so f**king stupid. Ya know ...sheep. what he said was a threat absolutely no question. Did he mean it literally? Probably not he's an idiot. You think these people here thought he meant 2nd ammenders..vote for me. No they dont. If they do then there is no help. Watch what he says and how he says it and his last words" I don't know". The only way he can talk normal is when his speech is written for him.
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reginamc
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Statement released by Hillary Clinton, 2008
“Earlier today I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns that both my husband and Senator Kennedy waged in California in June 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That’s a historic fact. The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy and I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation, and particularly for the Kennedy family was in any way offensive. I certainly had no intention of that, whatsoever. My view is that we have to look to the past and to our leaders who have inspired us and give us a lot to live up to, and I’m honored to hold Senator Kennedy’s seat in the United States Senate from the state of New York and have the highest regard for the entire Kennedy family.”
Not one iota of sameness to the treasonous comments to incite gun violence to STOL Hillary Clinton that Trump spewed today.
Live with Republicans.
Trump is scum.
Oh please. That's the BS walk-back statement she HAD TO make after she got in a world of trouble for saying "Kennedy was assassinated in June".
Read some of these articles from that time - one is called "Why Would I Drop Out Before Barack Obama Gets Assassinated?"
Even left wing media was horrified that she would say that. Now that they have a full time whipping boy going in Trump, though, they are waiting to pounce on every single thing they can possibly twist into something negative. Should he have said it? NO! Because he loads the gun for them. But to say he's calling for her assassination is just ridiculous and you know it.
Do you honestly not see that it's the same thing?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-assassination/
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cherisays
Lancaster, CA
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Idiot. Being a liar is a large part of what makes her qualified. This IS politics, after all. So, Obama was right BOTH times.
That you are comfortable with lying says alot about you and those like you..
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mymanbarak
South Dartmouth, MA
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More scare tactics by Trump saying Hillary wants to take your guns away. Are you dumb enough to believe this? How do folks still fall for this BS. Anyway, Trump said that the 2nd amendment folks might be able to do something about Hilary and possible supreme court appointees. He also said right after that that "It would a horrible day" if it happened. So, if you are suggesting that this is anything other than what's obvious to everybody, you are an imbecile. Trump is purposely tanking. He does not want to be president and his supporters are being taken for a ride. What a bunch of stupid goat f**king, backwoods, uninformed, uneducated, dimwitted, f**ktards these f**king goat f**kers are. Are you offended ???? Good Please have a stroke
I can't wait till he backs out omg these stupid f**king trump worshipers are gonna look like stupid asses and I can't frigging wait. I'm gonna try to remember who is who on this site and laugh in their face when he tanks hahahaha. How stupid stupid stupid stupid these people are gonna look and feel. They will have to delete their profiles and make a fake one just to save face hahahaha
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jillybodob
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Old mother Hubbard went to the cupboards and the cupboards were bare. $10 Trillion of borrowing later, the cupboards are still bare.
Cup these people are so f**king stupid. Ya know ...sheep. what he said was a threat absolutely no question. Did he mean it literally? Probably not he's an idiot. You think these people here thought he meant 2nd ammenders..vote for me. No they dont. If they do then there is no help. Watch what he says and how he says it and his last words" I don't know". The only way he can talk normal is when his speech is written for him.
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cherisays
Lancaster, CA
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Don't mistake me as a Trump supporter but I am not going to let the MSM and the likes of Cuposhit spew their lies unchallenged.
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giss7
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Wow op, this almost sounds like hillaries n**gers at trumps rallys.
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fyathyrio
Savannah, GA
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Wow op, this almost sounds like hillaries n**gers at trumps rallys.
giss. if I wanted to kill myself id jump from your ego down to your iq....f**koff
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giss. if I wanted to kill myself id jump from your ego down to your iq....f**koff
The brilliance you bring to the conversation is amazing!
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Someone said earlier -- why didn't I quote The Donald -- Well here's a quoted news story for you.
Read it and wipe Trump's a** with his TREASON.
Source: RollingStone
Trump's Assassination Dog Whistle Was Even Scarier Than You Think
Republican nominee engaged in so-called stochastic terrorism with his remarks about "Second Amendment people" and Clinton
"If [Hillary Clinton] gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know," Donald Trump said Tuesday.
By David S. Cohen
4 hours ago
One day after his widely discussed "reboot" in which he did nothing more than read basic Republican economic talking points from a teleprompter, Donald Trump uttered perhaps his most outrageous – and dangerous – ad-lib yet. And that's saying something for a campaign in which he's criticized John McCain for being a prisoner of war, characterized Mexicans as rapists, called for banning Muslims from coming into the country, picked a fight with a Gold Star family and urged Russia to hack his political opponent.
RELATED
Donald Trump Hints at Hillary Clinton Assassination
Speaking to a crowd in Wilmington, North Carolina, Tuesday, Trump expressed concern about Hillary Clinton possibly picking Supreme Court justices and other judges. He then said, "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don't know."
Let that soak in for a second. One of the two major-party nominees for president just called for "Second Amendment people" to "do" something about his political opponent's judges. According to the Trump campaign's rapid response team, he was talking about those "Second Amendment people" coming together politically – "unification," as they called it. The Clinton campaign, and pretty much the entire Internet, saw it differently: as a clear suggestion of violence against a political opponent.
It's hard not to side with the Clinton campaign here. What Trump said was that a particular group – those who are defined by rallying around guns – should do something about Clinton and her judicial nominees. What can people who rally around guns do that's different than others? Use those guns.
But it's really irrelevant what Trump actually meant, because enough people will hear Trump's comments and think he's calling for people to take up arms against Clinton, her judges or both. Though most of the people hearing that call may claim he was joking, given what we know about people taking up arms in this country, there will undoubtedly be some people who think he was serious and consider the possibility.
In other words, what Trump just did is engage in so-called stochastic terrorism. This is an obscure and non-legal term that has been occasionally discussed in the academic world for the past decade and a half, and it applies with precision here. Stochastic terrorism, as described by a blogger who summarized the concept several years back, means using language and other forms of communication "to incite random actors to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable."
Let's break that down in the context of what Trump said. Predicting any one particular individual following his call to use violence against Clinton or her judges is statistically impossible. But we can predict that there could be a presently unknown lone wolf who hears his call and takes action in the future.
Stated differently: Trump puts out the dog whistle knowing that some dog will hear it, even though he doesn't know which dog.
Those of us who work against anti-abortion violence unfortunately know all about this. Valerie Tarico wrote about this form of terrorism following the Planned Parenthood murders in Colorado Springs last November. The pattern she noted there is 100 percent applicable to Donald Trump and his supporters right now – except that we haven't yet had the major act of violence at the end of the string. As Tarico wrote:
"1. A public figure with access to the airwaves or pulpit demonizes a person or group of persons.
2. With repetition, the targeted person or group is gradually dehumanized, depicted as loathsome and dangerous—arousing a combustible combination of fear and moral disgust.
3. Violent images and metaphors, jokes about violence, analogies to past 'purges' against reviled groups, use of righteous religious language—all of these typically stop just short of an explicit call to arms.
4. When violence erupts, the public figures who have incited the violence condemn it—claiming no one could possibly have foreseen the 'tragedy.'"
This explains Donald Trump's campaign against Hillary Clinton to a letter. He has 1) demonized her whenever he can by calling her "Crooked Hillary" and constantly degrading her; 2) organized a convention around which the central theme, repeated over and over, was that Clinton is a criminal who needs to be locked up, clearly using fear and moral disgust as motivators; and 3) is now using violent metaphors (or "jokes," if that's what you think his statements were) against her, just short of an explicit call to arms.
Now we just have to hope that #4 doesn't come about – that violence does not erupt. Though, if it does, we know exactly what Trump and his supporters will say: that they never could have foreseen this tragedy.
In the world I'm most familiar with, the world of anti-abortion violence, we see this again and again from leaders of the anti-abortion movement. Tarico's post linked above is one example. This cartoon, drawn following Dr. George Tiller's assassination in 2009 (and dug up Tuesday by Michelle Kinsey Bruns), is another perfect illustration.
Following Trump's comments, we all have to hope (and, if it's your cup of tea, pray) that it doesn't come to this – that the lone wolves out there don't read this as urging someone to take the next step in the cycle.
Because what Trump has done is clear: He has incited violence against Hillary Clinton and/or her judges, even if he doesn't know exactly who will carry that violence out.
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| 8/9/2016 10:07:51 PM |
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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Cup, the entire DC Establishment if frightened by Donald. The DC Establishment is horrified by the notion of renegotiating contracts such that the American people get a better bang for the buck.
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| 8/9/2016 10:13:58 PM |
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louie6332
Falkville, AL
74, joined Nov. 2011
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Fyatjurop, you Buddhist Liberal who “wants to be remembered for your thoughts”, you say: “More scare tactics by Trump saying Hillary wants to take your guns away. Are you dumb enough to believe this? How do folks still fall for this BS?”
Look Farttrop, Democratic spokesman openly admitted at the DNC that they were out to ban all private firearms, and they say they will do it with so called “common sense” gun laws, listen to them say it with their own mouth:
'Common sense gun laws is code for total ban, you say shit like that, and then people will buy into it':
http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/hillary-delegate-common-sense-gun-laws-code-for-total-ban/
Now Fartop, it is clear from your post that you are dumb enough to believe the Democrats, you are falling for their BS. How do you do it? Well, it is clear that you do not know BS when you hear it. The very fact that you are a Buddhist Liberal is proof of that. The Democrat’s are as full of BS as Hillary’s adult diapers are.
Louie
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| 8/9/2016 10:14:32 PM |
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
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Dan Savage Says Of Congressional Republicans ‘I Wish They All Were F**kin’ Dead’ On Real Time. Oh but later he blamed it on drinking too much.
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| 8/9/2016 10:15:40 PM |
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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Detroit, call 911 and maybe they'll get there tomorrow, maybe.
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| 8/9/2016 10:23:22 PM |
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peterk2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
55, joined May. 2007
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He's got a head full of mash potatoes, and says stuff that sounds stupid to normal people.
his speech patterns ring true with normal people, and even mr potato head would be better than the kommissars weve got now
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| 8/9/2016 10:26:58 PM |
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louie6332
Falkville, AL
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Cup, listen carefully, you need to stop calling the American voter’s choice for president an “asswipe”. I don’t think they take kindly to that, I know I don't. You forget, it’s Hillary Clinton that wears adult diapers, not Trump. And you need to get off that stuff you are addicted to, you are going to be as mentally incapacitated as Hillary Clinton, if you don’t, if you are not already. Join Alcoholics Anonymous or something. There is no cure for her, but there may be hope for you.
Louie
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| 8/9/2016 10:27:45 PM |
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bluecougareyes
Chelan, WA
72, joined Nov. 2008
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Idiot. Being a liar is a large part of what makes her qualified. This IS politics, after all. So, Obama was right BOTH times.
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^^^^^ A TRUE CORRUPT AND PRO-LYING SOCIALISTIC LEMMING FOOL !
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| 8/9/2016 10:28:09 PM |
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jillybodob
Naperville, IL
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Peter, a potato head is one who thinks nothing of racking up $10 Trillion of debt and thinking it's free.
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| 8/9/2016 10:34:35 PM |
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
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louie6332
Cup is just mimicking the liberal media. Desperate times calls for desperate measures so they start making things up.
The news for the last few weeks has not been kind to Hillary. This new email release is very damaging and we are still digesting the last email release. On top of it Hillary's poor health has come to the attention of the masses.
But in any case. Any sane person with minimal reasoning skills knew exactly what Trump said and meant.
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