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11/13/2016 11:05:36 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

missgioia
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President Elect Trump's lawyers have requested that the fraud trial connected with the now failed Trump University be delayed until after the Inauguration.

What are your thoughts on this?

Can you think of a good, or bad reason to do this?




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11/13/2016 11:12:48 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

w6o6l6f_1
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Delay it.

When did a college education ever garentee a high paying job in this economy?

11/13/2016 11:14:35 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

longbobby
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Link?

Btw? Are you not aware Presidents have immunity from lawsuits?

Google ... Sovereign Immunity

11/13/2016 11:21:01 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

stellar007
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The trial should be summarily dismissed!

I mean for gawds sake! Donald J. Trump's business talent has landed him the most powerful and coveted position in the world!

By all right, Americans have pretty much accredited Trump U when they elected him! Trump is the hottest ticket in town for business ATM! People who didn't sue now have a strong and resounding reference if they attended Trump U! Not only that, it would be an incredible conversation piece to break the ice in any interview.

Face it, these people lost their cases when Trump won the Presidency! Even if Trump wasn't the President I seriously doubt that the courts are going to set precedent that a university, even Trump University, can be sued because the students didn't like their teacher or school... That's buyers remorse, not fraud! Just think about how much ITT Tech would have to pay back to all it's students when they went belly up! To find Trump University guilty of anything would open the door for droves of ITT Tech people suing, not to mention any student from any university that felt they spent too much on their education after the fact.

Trump should not have to settle.... It's buyer beware and these people knew what they were getting. I don't see where there is any case for the plaintiffs in this suit.

11/13/2016 11:22:04 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

missgioia
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Quote from longbobby:
Link?

Btw? Are you not aware Presidents have immunity from lawsuits?

Google ... Sovereign Immunity


Hmm...there are a number of links. I will get them for you.

But, if there's immunity, why file?

Does the immunity apply to the President, but not the President Elect?

Are they trying to delay until he is immune?

I am not saying it's true, just asking.

11/13/2016 11:25:00 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

missgioia
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/13/trump-university-trial-delay-after-inauguration

Here's one link. If you don't care for the source, there are many others.

11/13/2016 11:27:41 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

lennyjohn58
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Presidents have immunity from lawsuits?

Quick somebody tell Bill Clinton.

11/13/2016 11:27:53 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

missgioia
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Quote from stellar007:
The trial should be summarily dismissed!

I mean for gawds sake! Donald J. Trump's business talent has landed him the most powerful and coveted position in the world!

By all right, Americans have pretty much accredited Trump U when they elected him! Trump is the hottest ticket in town for business ATM! People who didn't sue now have a strong and resounding reference if they attended Trump U! Not only that, it would be an incredible conversation piece to break the ice in any interview.

Face it, these people lost their cases when Trump won the Presidency! Even if Trump wasn't the President I seriously doubt that the courts are going to set precedent that a university, even Trump University, can be sued because the students didn't like their teacher or school... That's buyers remorse, not fraud! Just think about how much ITT Tech would have to pay back to all it's students when they went belly up! To find Trump University guilty of anything would open the door for droves of ITT Tech people suing, not to mention any student from any university that felt they spent too much on their education after the fact.

Trump should not have to settle.... It's buyer beware and these people knew what they were getting. I don't see where there is any case for the plaintiffs in this suit.


But, it's already been decided that these folks should have their day in court, right?

His businesses are separate from his candidancy.

Why wouldn't he want to clear it up before the swearing in?

11/13/2016 11:31:01 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

iam_resurrected
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it is a CIVIL matter so it won't be nothing to send him to prison.
I say he will have to pay a fine and that is it since he cannot be legally arrested over it.

11/13/2016 11:32:00 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from missgioia:
But, it's already been decided that these folks should have their day in court, right?

His businesses are separate from his candidancy.

Why wouldn't he want to clear it up before the swearing in?


I'd be shocked if any Judge didn't summarily dismiss all of these complaints. I mean, c'mon! They have no case! Why waste the tax payers money!?

The guy won the Presidency and beat the establishment. You don't get more "Business minded" than that! That's like the Holy Grail! These people have no case! Just the fact they have a document saying they were taught by Donald Trump, at this point and time, pretty much ensures a leg up! They have no case!

11/13/2016 11:32:16 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

iam_resurrected
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and get it over with before jan. 20 is the best thing for him to do.

11/13/2016 11:34:39 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

longbobby
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Quote from missgioia:
But, it's already been decided that these folks should have their day in court, right?

His businesses are separate from his candidancy.

Why wouldn't he want to clear it up before the swearing in?
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Do you understand what a "frivolous" lawsuit is?

Do you understand the MSM exaggerated things about President Trump while ignoring just about everything negative about Clinton?

Did you know there is a "Clinton U" that is accused of the exact same things as "Trump U" is ?

The Clinton university scandal | New York Post
www.nypost.com/2016/06/12/the-clinton-university-scan...
Jun 12, 2016 ... Nor about the $55 million that Hillary Clinton's State Department sent ... One Laureate component, mostly-online Walden University, even faced its own class- action lawsuit. ... Assassination threats against Trump flood Twitter.

Hillary University: Bill Clinton Bagged $16.46 Million from For-Profit ...
www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/02/h...
Jun 2, 2016 ... With her campaign sinking in the polls, Hillary Clinton has launched a desperate attack against Trump University to deflect attention away from ...

The Clinton University Problem: Laureate Education Lawsuits ...
https://jonathanturley.org/2016/06/08/the-clintons-un...
Jun 8, 2016 ... HomeThe Clinton University Problem: Laureate Education Lawsuits Present ..... I have compared my experience at Walden against any other ...

11/13/2016 11:36:04 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

stellar007
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I haven't read the complaint, but it seems to me that kids out there are getting themselves into $100,000-$150,000 student loans with Universities, many of them with federal lending.

Im pretty sure Trump U was private, thus no different than anyone offering a class on anything. I don't think Trump U was offering classes for Doctors, Lawyers or other fields that require a degree to take some form of entrance exam or BAR. It was a business school if I'm correct.

Still a lot of schools have classes where the credits won't transfer, so I can't even see where they are going with this.



[Edited 11/13/2016 11:37:08 PM ]

11/13/2016 11:36:44 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

longbobby
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
and get it over with before jan. 20 is the best thing for him to do.


Might be interesting to see if the alleged disgruntled former "Trump U" students are in fact, Hillary operatives.

As the now exposed "Katie Johnson / Tiffany Doe" turned out to be.

11/13/2016 11:37:51 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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11/13/2016 11:38:47 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

missgioia
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
it is a CIVIL matter so it won't be nothing to send him to prison.
I say he will have to pay a fine and that is it since he cannot be legally arrested over it.


I didn't say it was a matter that would result in jail time.

I just asked if it should be delayed until after the Inauguration. And, if you believe it should, why?

There are tons of crimes that don't result in jail time, but those crimes still reveal a certain character, and hurt hardworking people. So, misdemeanor isn't the issue.

The issue is why delay?

11/13/2016 11:40:40 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

longbobby
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Quote from longbobby:
Quote from missgioia:
But, it's already been decided that these folks should have their day in court, right?

His businesses are separate from his candidancy.

Why wouldn't he want to clear it up before the swearing in?
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Do you understand what a "frivolous" lawsuit is?

Do you understand the MSM exaggerated things about President Trump while ignoring just about everything negative about Clinton?

Did you know there is a "Clinton U" that is accused of the exact same things as "Trump U" is ?

The Clinton university scandal | New York Post
www.nypost.com/2016/06/12/the-clinton-university-scan...
Jun 12, 2016 ... Nor about the $55 million that Hillary Clinton's State Department sent ... One Laureate component, mostly-online Walden University, even faced its own class- action lawsuit. ... Assassination threats against Trump flood Twitter.

Hillary University: Bill Clinton Bagged $16.46 Million from For-Profit ...
www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/02/h...
Jun 2, 2016 ... With her campaign sinking in the polls, Hillary Clinton has launched a desperate attack against Trump University to deflect attention away from ...

The Clinton University Problem: Laureate Education Lawsuits ...
https://jonathanturley.org/2016/06/08/the-clintons-un...
Jun 8, 2016 ... HomeThe Clinton University Problem: Laureate Education Lawsuits Present ..... I have compared my experience at Walden against any other ...


Should a criminal trial in regard to Hillarys vote fraud and many other Capital crimes be delayed?

BREAKING! Trump wins popular vote by millions.

Gregg Phillips
@JumpVote
We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens. We are joining @TrueTheVote to initiate legal action. #unrigged

https://mobile.twitter.com/JumpVote/status/797843232436748288

Gregg Phillips
@JumpVote
Completed analysis of database of 180 million voter registrations. Number of non-citizen votes exceeds 3 million. Consulting legal team.
3:23 PM - 11 Nov 2016

https://mobile.twitter.com/JumpVote/status/797218284034752512

... the voter fraud is also why the dems wouldn't dare ask for a recount because their fraud would then be exposed ...

11/13/2016 11:41:27 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

stellar007
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They shouldn't delay... The Judge should just Summarily Dismiss the case now...

The Judge not doing so may actually go to proving a bias the Judge may have, just like Trump was saying all along!

11/13/2016 11:42:37 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from longbobby:
Might be interesting to see if the alleged disgruntled former "Trump U" students are in fact, Hillary operatives.

As the now exposed "Katie Johnson / Tiffany Doe" turned out to be.


By all means, full speed ahead. Let the discovery begin. Lets see if the "plaintiffs" are legit.

11/13/2016 11:43:54 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

longbobby
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Quote from stellar007:
They shouldn't delay... The Judge should just Summarily Dismiss the case now...

The Judge not doing so may actually go to proving a bias the Judge may have, just like Trump was saying all along!


It's already been proven the Judge is a Hillary supporter. That's why President Trump wanted him to recuse himself.

11/13/2016 11:45:58 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

iam_resurrected
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I read Trump wants to get it done and over with.
I think it is the right thing to do.
it is like Bill settling 850k to Jennifer flowers while Hillary was running for this election...they paid it off and moved on.

same thing Trump should do

11/13/2016 11:46:16 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from missgioia:
Hmm...there are a number of links. I will get them for you.

But, if there's immunity, why file?

Does the immunity apply to the President, but not the President Elect?

Are they trying to delay until he is immune?

I am not saying it's true, just asking.
------------------------------------------------------

President Trump is already immune. If you disagree, try flying a small plane past Trump Tower and then see what happens when your plane lands.

Presuming that is, if said plane isn't shot out of the sky as being a "threat" in a no fly zone.

11/13/2016 11:48:16 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from longbobby:
It's already been proven the Judge is a Hillary supporter. That's why President Trump wanted him to recuse himself.


The Judge is US born but has Mexican heritage. You can't tell me that after the hard fought campaign with immigration at the forefront, notably "Illegal Mexican" immigration and a desire to "Build a wall", won't be felt on a personal level with the Judge. That alone, as much as many in the Judiciary want's to admit it, would be enough to have the Judge disqualify himself to avoid the appearance of impropriety.

How is this US born Judge with Mexican roots going to feel after Trump is President and deports 3 million Mexicans? I don't know folks...



[Edited 11/13/2016 11:49:01 PM ]

11/13/2016 11:48:25 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

longbobby
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Quote from iam_resurrected:
I read Trump wants to get it done and over with.
I think it is the right thing to do.
it is like Bill settling 850k to Jennifer flowers while Hillary was running for this election...they paid it off and moved on.

same thing Trump should do
------------------------------------------------------

I think President Trump should have the alleged "plaintiffs" investigated with the full power of the law to determine if they are legit and/or whether they are Hillary operatives.

11/13/2016 11:52:55 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

missgioia
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The State of New York (not the city) filed suit against Trump University in 2013.

11/13/2016 11:53:33 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

stellar007
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Quote from missgioia:
The State of New York (not the city) filed suit against Trump University in 2013.


And what happened then?

11/14/2016 12:13:04 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

missgioia
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Quote from stellar007:
And what happened then?


He said the complaintants should be investigated, so, I gave him the complaintants

If President Elect Trump wanted to clear it up, why did he allow his lawyers to request a delay?

Is he unable to control his lawyers?

11/14/2016 12:16:21 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

stellar007
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Did you attend Trump University?

11/14/2016 12:47:07 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

longbobby
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Quote from missgioia:
The State of New York (not the city) filed suit against Trump University in 2013.


Ohhh, I get it. You don't know about AG Schneiderman then.

11/14/2016 5:48:28 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  
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Trump should repay any damages -- any money taken during his theft.
With interest...

11/14/2016 6:16:16 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from missgioia:
Hmm...there are a number of links. I will get them for you.

But, if there's immunity, why file?

Does the immunity apply to the President, but not the President Elect?

Are they trying to delay until he is immune?

I am not saying it's true, just asking.


They only have immunity for acts committed while in office. The case doesn't go away just because he conned an election. Additionally both he and Trump Enterprises LLC were sued as individuals. Even if he could argue to have himself removed as a defendant, (which would be one hell of a stretch), the corporation would still be fully liable for any judgement. I don't think his victims care which name is in the check, as long as there's a lot of zeros after the number.

11/14/2016 6:56:10 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Pardon him. it doesn't matter now.

11/14/2016 7:00:55 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  
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Rich capitalists raping, looting and defrauding the American working-class majority is their God-given right. Bernie Madoff could have been president if he had raped, looted and defrauded working-class Americans instead of super-rich Americans. If you rape, loot and defraud rich American capitalists, you go to prison and we kill your children. Donald Trump, on the other hand, has been raping, looting and defrauding exactly the people he's supposed to as a billionaire capitalist.



[Edited 11/14/2016 7:03:14 AM ]

11/14/2016 7:02:55 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

missgioia
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Quote from maniacmassager:
Pardon him. it doesn't matter now.


Why would it not matter?


Can anyone be pardoned for a civil suit?

11/14/2016 7:05:03 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  
condor_0000
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Republicans don't care anything at all about crimes committed by Republicans. Democrats don't care anything at all about crimes committed by Democrats. The big difference between the two parties is that Democrat often times don't care anything at all about the crimes committed by Republicans either.

11/14/2016 7:24:57 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from condor_0000:
Republicans don't care anything at all about crimes committed by Republicans. Democrats don't care anything at all about crimes committed by Democrats. The big difference between the two parties is that Democrat often times don't care anything at all about the crimes committed by Republicans either.


That's more like the truth of the matter.
From what I can see, BOTH parties need reform NOW.

11/14/2016 7:29:10 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from maniacmassager:
Pardon him. it doesn't matter now.


Do you seriously realize how stupid that is??
It f**kin matters to the people he bilked!!
Besides, you never offer why you say the stupid things that you do.
You never have a real opinion, or a source to back your opinion, in fact you never have ANYTHING

11/14/2016 7:55:41 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

missgioia
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They are also asking that the plaintiffs lawyers be barred from mentioning any statements Trump made during his campaign.

I found that odd.

11/14/2016 8:05:05 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from missgioia:
They are also asking that the plaintiffs lawyers be barred from mentioning any statements Trump made during his campaign.

I found that odd.


The old protect the rich, and screw the poor
I can't believe the injustice, the inhumanity to man.
We need a government for the people, all people

11/14/2016 8:41:03 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  
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Quote from missgioia:
President Elect Trump's lawyers have requested that the fraud trial connected with the now failed Trump University be delayed until after the Inauguration.

What are your thoughts on this?

Can you think of a good, or bad reason to do this?



I can. First is bullshit. It's a civil suit, not a fraud case. Can you liberals ever tell the truth?

11/14/2016 9:10:48 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from giss7:
I can. First is bullshit. It's a civil suit, not a fraud case. Can you liberals ever tell the truth?


Yes. It is a civil suit accusing Trump University of fraud.

My question is why delay it, and why ban mention of anything he said during his campaign?

11/14/2016 10:47:56 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from rufftreasure:
Do you seriously realize how stupid that is??
It f**kin matters to the people he bilked!!
Besides, you never offer why you say the stupid things that you do.
You never have a real opinion, or a source to back your opinion, in fact you never have ANYTHING


Hes President now. lets support him. we didn't put swillary in jail, so why should we put Trump in jail.

11/14/2016 10:48:17 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from missgioia:
Yes. It is a civil suit accusing Trump University of fraud.

My question is why delay it, and why ban mention of anything he said during his campaign?
----------------------------------------------------------

I get it. You're unaware of AG Schneiderman's "interest" in the suit.

AG's aren't supposed to have an "interest"; like judges, they are supposed to be impartial.

11/14/2016 10:58:46 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Martin Armstrong Exposes "The Real Clinton Conspiracy" Which Backfired Dramatically

According to WikiLeaks emails from campaign John Podesta, Clinton colluded with the DNC and the media to raise what they thought would be the extreme right among Republicans to then make her the middle of the road to hide her agenda.



The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee along with mainstream media all called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”

If we look back on April 23, 2015, just two weeks after Hillary Clinton officially declared her presidential campaign, her staff sent out a message on strategy to manipulate the Republicans into selecting the worse candidate. They included this attachment a “memo for the DNC discussion.”



It was not Putin trying to rig the elections, it was Hillary. Clinton saw the Republican field as crowded and she viewed as “positive” for her. “Many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton then took the strategic position saying “we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party.”

Her manipulative strategy was to have the press build up Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz and Ben Carson. “We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to them seriously.”

This conspiracy has emerged from the Podesta emails. It was Clinton conspiring with mainstream media to elevate Trump and then tear him down. We have to now look at all the media who endorsed Hillary as simply corrupt. Simultaneously, Hillary said that Bernie had to be ground down to the pulp. Further leaked emails showed how the Democratic National Committee sabotaged Sanders’ presidential campaign. It was Hillary manipulating the entire media for her personal gain. She obviously did not want a fair election because she was too corrupt.

What is very clear putting all the emails together, the rise of Donald Trump was orchestrated by Hillary herself conspiring with mainstream media, and they they sought to burn him to the ground. Their strategy backfired and now this is why she has not come out to to speak against the violence she has manipulated and inspired.

This is by far the WORST campaign in history and it was all orchestrated by Hillary to be intentionally divisive for the nation all to win the presidency at all costs. She has torched the constitution and the country. No wonder Hillary could not go to the stage to thank her supporters. She never counted on them and saw the people as fools. The entire strategy was to take the White House with a manipulation of the entire election process. Just unbelievable. Any Democrat who is not angry at this is clearly just a biased fool. Wake up and smell the roses. You just got what you deserve.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/martin-armstrong-exposes-real-clinton-conspiracy-which-backfired-dramatically

11/14/2016 11:06:36 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from stellar007:
I haven't read the complaint, but it seems to me that kids out there are getting themselves into $100,000-$150,000 student loans with Universities, many of them with federal lending.

Im pretty sure Trump U was private, thus no different than anyone offering a class on anything. I don't think Trump U was offering classes for Doctors, Lawyers or other fields that require a degree to take some form of entrance exam or BAR. It was a business school if I'm correct.

Still a lot of schools have classes where the credits won't transfer, so I can't even see where they are going with this.



this is exactly my thought,,,trups lawyers are going to destroy this

11/14/2016 11:08:02 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from missgioia:
Yes. It is a civil suit accusing Trump University of fraud.

My question is why delay it, and why ban mention of anything he said during his campaign?
----------------------------------------------------------

I get it. You're unaware of AG Schneiderman's "interest" in the suit.

AG's aren't supposed to have an "interest"; like judges, they are supposed to be impartial.


Martin Armstrong Exposes "The Real Clinton Conspiracy" Which Backfired Dramatically

According to WikiLeaks emails from campaign John Podesta, Clinton colluded with the DNC and the media to raise what they thought would be the extreme right among Republicans to then make her the middle of the road to hide her agenda.



The Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee along with mainstream media all called for using far-right candidates “as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton’s camp insisted that Trump should be “elevated” to “leaders of the pack” and media outlets should be told to “take them seriously.”

If we look back on April 23, 2015, just two weeks after Hillary Clinton officially declared her presidential campaign, her staff sent out a message on strategy to manipulate the Republicans into selecting the worse candidate. They included this attachment a “memo for the DNC discussion.”



It was not Putin trying to rig the elections, it was Hillary. Clinton saw the Republican field as crowded and she viewed as “positive” for her. “Many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right.” Clinton then took the strategic position saying “we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party.”

Her manipulative strategy was to have the press build up Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz and Ben Carson. “We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to them seriously.”

This conspiracy has emerged from the Podesta emails. It was Clinton conspiring with mainstream media to elevate Trump and then tear him down. We have to now look at all the media who endorsed Hillary as simply corrupt. Simultaneously, Hillary said that Bernie had to be ground down to the pulp. Further leaked emails showed how the Democratic National Committee sabotaged Sanders’ presidential campaign. It was Hillary manipulating the entire media for her personal gain. She obviously did not want a fair election because she was too corrupt.

What is very clear putting all the emails together, the rise of Donald Trump was orchestrated by Hillary herself conspiring with mainstream media, and they they sought to burn him to the ground. Their strategy backfired and now this is why she has not come out to to speak against the violence she has manipulated and inspired.

This is by far the WORST campaign in history and it was all orchestrated by Hillary to be intentionally divisive for the nation all to win the presidency at all costs. She has torched the constitution and the country. No wonder Hillary could not go to the stage to thank her supporters. She never counted on them and saw the people as fools. The entire strategy was to take the White House with a manipulation of the entire election process. Just unbelievable. Any Democrat who is not angry at this is clearly just a biased fool. Wake up and smell the roses. You just got what you deserve.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-12/martin-armstrong-exposes-real-clinton-conspiracy-which-backfired-dramatically

11/14/2016 11:23:16 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  
giss7
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Quote from missgioia:
Yes. It is a civil suit accusing Trump University of fraud.

My question is why delay it, and why ban mention of anything he said during his campaign?



Bzzzt, thanks fir playing anyway. You can't be sued for a felony either. You can be sused for defrauding people of money, but they gave the courses 90%+ rating. Further wherever there are criminal cases, lawyers ALWAYS wait until a criminal case is over before filing suit. It's so much easier to win that way.

11/14/2016 11:23:21 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  
michael061
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I would say that the lawsuits, must be serious lawsuits, that others who have started schools, have been successfully sued for doing.

If that is the case, the lawsuits should proceed as normal.

My understanding is that lots of schools fail to do what they promise to do.

In fact, if Trump should be sued for failing to do what he promised, shouldn't big city children, be allowed to sue the city that gave them high school diplomas, when they couldn't even read at a 5TH grade level?

I had several friends who took Computer Programming courses, and then couldn't find work. (Do you know anyone who got a job, after taking one of these courses?)

Millions of College graduates are having trouble finding work, because their schools didn't teach them the things that are needed to get a good job.

I think everyone knows that an education, even a great education, does not guarantee a good job.

I think these may be frivolous lawsuits, that can not be won in a court of law. These suits are filed in the hope of getting some money, that would be paid, just to keep from having to pay the lawyers to present the defendants case.

The judges have a huge responsibility. If the case is a good one, it should go to court in the normal manner. If the suit is not a good one, it should be dismissed.

11/14/2016 11:27:28 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from stellar007:
I haven't read the complaint, but it seems to me that kids out there are getting themselves into $100,000-$150,000 student loans with Universities, many of them with federal lending.

Im pretty sure Trump U was private, thus no different than anyone offering a class on anything. I don't think Trump U was offering classes for Doctors, Lawyers or other fields that require a degree to take some form of entrance exam or BAR. It was a business school if I'm correct.

Still a lot of schools have classes where the credits won't transfer, so I can't even see where they are going with this.


Except TU fraudulently claimed it was an accredited University, no different than Harvard or Yale.

When it was in fact more like Wally Thor's School of Trucking.

11/14/2016 7:43:35 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  
giss7
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Quote from michael061:]I would say that the lawsuits, must be serious lawsuits, that others who have started schools, have been successfully sued for doing.

If that is the case, the lawsuits should proceed as normal.

BUT they really can't. The classes had disclaimers plus the students who are suing rated his courses over 90%+. If he pulls out a sheet where you signed it dating you gave hire course content and delivery a 97% rating, you are simply f**ked. No judge will take you seriously. Now maybe like onegro said mexican judges "see the law differently, thru their eyes of their heritage" (just like truly said), it will be over turned under appeal where there isn't a pro wet back judge.


My understanding is that lots of schools fail to do what they promise to do.

In fact, if Trump should be sued for failing to do what he promised, shouldn't big city children, be allowed to sue the city that gave them high school diplomas, when they couldn't even read at a 5TH grade level?

I had several friends who took Computer Programming courses, and then couldn't find work. (Do you know anyone who got a job, after taking one of these courses?)

Millions of College graduates are having trouble finding work, because their schools didn't teach them the things that are needed to get a good job.
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11/14/2016 8:30:38 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  
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Problem is DIRFTY DONALD is on tape saying that he interviewed and hired each of the classroom instructors personally.Some of these instructors had criminal records as long as your arm for all kinds of thefts and sexual assault crimes,his attorney Petrocelli is a very high priced representative that has won delay after delay hoping the plaintiffs will give up which is DIRTYDONALDS usual tactic.......but in these cases,in California and New York I say DIRTYDONALD goes down.These two fraud cases are only two of 75 filed against him right now.

11/14/2016 8:39:35 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Quote from a Minister of Propaganda: The_
Problem is DIRFTY DONALD is on tape saying that he interviewed and hired each of the classroom instructors personally.Some of these instructors had criminal records as long as your arm for all kinds of thefts and sexual assault crimes,his attorney Petrocelli is a very high priced representative that has won delay after delay hoping the plaintiffs will give up which is DIRTYDONALDS usual tactic.......but in these cases,in California and New York I say DIRTYDONALD goes down.These two fraud cases are only two of 75 filed against him right now.
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You're a damned liar.

That is what happened to CROOKED HILLARY Clinton.

CROOKED HILLARY Clinton is on tape saying that he interviewed and hired each of the classroom instructors personally.Some of these instructors had criminal records as long as your arm for all kinds of thefts and sexual assault crimes.

Btw stupid? Do I REALLY need to explain WHY to you these alleged lawsuits... IF THEY EVEN EXIST...are going to be thrown out on January 22nd, 2017?

11/14/2016 8:58:11 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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I suggest the book " Battle Hymn", John Scura/ Dane Phillips " Revelations of the sinister plan for a New World Order"

This will tell you all about the Federal Reserve, The big money of the Federal Reserve, the big money families of the world. These are the same families in big money for many centuries, and certainly since the beginning of this country and to this day!!

This money is the reason for every single assassination of presidents from the beginning of this country. And you will notice it's the ones who came up against this money that were offed.

11/14/2016 9:00:08 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Get on the train slut! Trump is making America great again

11/14/2016 9:00:28 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

stellar007
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This is probably the only thing the Democrats got going for them at the moment...

Maybe the attorneys will let them froth at the mouth for awhile and cool down before the courts summarily dismiss them all.



11/14/2016 9:00:51 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

longbobby
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Quote from rufftreasure:
I suggest the book " Battle Hymn", John Scura/ Dane Phillips " Revelations of the sinister plan for a New World Order"

This will tell you all about the Federal Reserve, The big money of the Federal Reserve, the big money families of the world. These are the same families in big money for many centuries, and certainly since the beginning of this country and to this day!!

This money is the reason for every single assassination of presidents from the beginning of this country. And you will notice it's the ones who came up against this money that were offed.


It appears the unhappy snowflakes are giving a big SCREW YOU to their "dear Leader". samBO truly is a lame duck now when even his woshipers don't kisten to him anymore. Let alone heed his words.

Finally, Obama Speaks: Americans Need to ‘Reconcile Themselves’ with a Trump Presidency

This is an amazing scene unfolding in America…

While the Democratic Party’s ‘community organizing’ machine helps ignite street protests, and even some violence, on streets nationwide for the last week – the Democratic President goes in front of the press this morning saying, “Look, the people have spoken. Donald Trump will be the next president.”

After a week of concentrated unrest, the President has been totally silent about street protests rejecting the election result – almost as a wink and a knod, quietly encouraging, or perhaps tempting a boiling point. When will President directly engage the American people on this issue?

Certainly, if this situation were reversed, the media would be demanding that a Republican president go to the American people calling for calm – and to accept the American media’s newly invented term, “the peaceful transition of power.”

More ‘leading from behind’ in Washington…

http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/11/14/finally-obama-speaks-americans-need-to-reconcile-themselves-with-a-trump-presidency/

Gregory Korte
USA Today

President Obama is answering questions about the election, the presidential transition and his legacy Monday at a White House news conference — his first since voters handed the White House over to a candidate who promised to dismantle his agenda.

Appearing relaxed and reflective, Obama said Americans had to “reconcile themselves” to the Trump presidency, but that he was optimistic about the country and his Democratic party.

He also made clear that he has things he wants to accomplish before he leaves office. “We’re going to make sure that we finish what we started, that we don’t let up in these last two months,” he said.

Obama said his White House team should be proud of what they’ve accomplished. “We’ve already ensured that when we turn over the keys, the car is in pretty good shape. We are indisputably in a better position now than we were when I came in eight years ago.”

(…) At the Monday news conference, Obama addressed:

-- The outcome of the election: “Look, the people have spoken. Donald Trump will be the next president, the 45th president of the United States. Those who didn’t vote for him have to understand, that’s how the system works. That’s how democracy operates,” he said. “Whenever you have an incoming president on the other side, particularly after a contentious election like we’ve had, it takes a while for people to reconcile themselves to that new reality. Hopefully it’s a reminder that elections matter.”

-- His Oval Office meeting with Trump: “Probably the most important point that I made was that how you staff, particularly the chief of staff, the national security adviser, the White House counsel … that’s something that has to be attended to right away,” he said. “I think it’s important to give him the room and the space to do that.”

Obama said he told Trump he was encouraged by his more conciliatory tone since the election. “Gestures matter, and how he reaches out to groups that may not have supported him … those are the kinds of things that can set the tone to move forward once he takes office.”

--The future of the Democratic party: “It’s a healthy thing for the Democratic party to go through some reflection. I think it’s important for me not to be bigfooting that conversation. We want to see new voices and new views emerge,” he said…

Full article at ... http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/14/obama-holds-his-first-post-election-news-conference/93806234/

11/14/2016 10:52:58 PM Should the Trial be Delayed?  
giss7
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Quote from 61falcon:]Problem is DIRFTY DONALD is on tape saying that he interviewed and hired each of the classroom instructors personally.Some of these instructors had criminal records as long as your arm for all kinds of thefts and sexual assault crimes,his attorney Petrocelli is a very high priced representative that has won delay after delay hoping the plaintiffs will give up which is DIRTYDONALDS usual tactic.......but in these cases,in California and New York I say DIRTYDONALD goes down.These two fraud cases are only two of 75 filed against him right now.


Fagcum Many of the leaders of the dnc have criminal records. What's your point? Once you took the course and rated it a 95 out of 100, only a wet back judge would find in your favor

11/15/2016 6:23:05 AM Should the Trial be Delayed?  

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Is there any precedent for the "I'm too busy to bother with court" defense?