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11/15/2016 4:56:28 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
condor_0000
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Obama defends Trump at White House press conference
By Patrick Martin
15 November 2016
World Socialist Web Site
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/11/15/obam-n15.html

Excerpts:

In a press conference Monday, his first since the 2016 elections, President Barack Obama defended his incoming Republican successor, Donald Trump.ratic rights of the American people.

Obama’s solicitude for Trump resurfaced on several occasions, as he declared, “I think it’s important to give him the room and the space” to make proper decisions on a new administration, adding that Trump might well listen to his critics. “I think it’s important for us to let him make his decisions,” he said.

Throughout the session with the press, which lasted nearly 90 minutes, Obama exuded a combination of complacency about the outcome of the elections and indifference to the consequences for working people, and even for his own political supporters.

This was so remarkable and pronounced that at one point ABC correspondent Martha Raddatz asked, with a note of surprise in her voice, “Is there anything that concerns you about a Trump administration?”

This followed Obama’s response to the question from CNN journalist Athena Jones, who cited his denunciations of Trump as unqualified to be president, then followed up with a question about the hostility in the Trump camp to racial minorities. She asked Obama to comment specifically on the selection of Stephen Bannon, former CEO of the ultra-right news outlet Breitbart.com, as chief strategist and White House counselor, effectively coequal with Trump’s new chief of staff, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Preibus.

Obama simply refused to comment on the Bannon appointment, saying, “It would not be appropriate for me to comment on every appointment that the President-elect starts making if I want to be consistent with the notion that we’re going to try to facilitate a smooth transition.”

The first African-American president has nothing to say about his successor filling one of the two leading positions on his staff with a white supremacist! This was in keeping with Obama’s posture throughout the press conference, as he dismissed concerns that the incoming Trump administration represented a threat to the democratic rights of the American people.

Obama continued: “Look, the people have spoken. Donald Trump will be the next President, the 45th President of the United States. And it will be up to him to set up a team that he thinks will serve him well and reflect his policies. And those who didn’t vote for him have to recognize that that’s how democracy works. That’s how this system operates.”

This declaration evades the issue entirely. Trump won a majority in the Electoral College, thanks to a series of narrow victories in states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Florida. But he trails in the popular vote to Hillary Clinton by nearly one million votes, a deficit that is likely to increase as final vote counting is completed in California.

Obama could have suggested that, given Trump’s losing the popular vote, he lacked a genuine mandate from the voters and should proceed cautiously in implementing his policies, and only after taking into consideration the views of those who voted against him. He did nothing of the kind.

Continued . . .



[Edited 11/15/2016 4:57:28 AM ]

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11/15/2016 4:57:03 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
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Continued . . .

Instead, he focused most of his remarks on praising his own record and the performance of his administration on a wide array of issues. Trump would have the benefit, he suggested, of taking office in a country enormously improved from the crisis-stricken America of January 2009.

Although he acknowledged, “obviously there are people out there who are feeling deeply disaffected; otherwise, we wouldn’t have had the results that we had in the election,” Obama painted a picture of America in which such discontent should affect only a small minority.

“If you look at the basic indicators of where the country is right now, the unemployment rate is as low as it’s been in eight, nine years,” he said. “Incomes and wages have both gone up over the last year faster than they have in a decade or two. We’ve got historically low uninsured rates. The financial systems are stable. The stock market is hovering around its all-time high, and 401(k)s have been restored. The housing market has recovered.”

The assembled journalists apparently shared Obama’s indifference and complacency. None asked him to square his claims of across-the-board success for his administration’s policies with the collapse of the electoral fortunes of the Democratic Party under his leadership. Since Obama became president in January 2009, the Democrats have lost control of the Senate, lost a net 63 seats in the House of Representatives, lost a net 900 seats in state legislatures, while seeing the number of Democratic governors fall from 29 to 16 out of 50 states, and the number of state legislatures under full Democratic control fall from 27 to only 5.

Asked directly if he was prepared to take any action to protect the three-quarters of a million undocumented immigrants who have registered with the government under Obama’s DACA program, who are now vulnerable to mass roundup under the Trump administration, Obama said only that he would “urge the President-elect and the incoming administration to think long and hard before they are endangering that status of what for all practical purposes are American kids.”

Obama suggested that the incoming Trump administration would be compelled by the sheer complexity of the challenges to moderate its policies. He claimed, “this office has a way of waking you up. And those aspects of his positions or predispositions that don’t match up with reality he will find shaken up pretty quick, because reality has a way of asserting itself. And some of his gifts that obviously allowed him to execute one of the biggest political upsets in history, those are ones that hopefully he will put to good use on behalf of all the American people.”

This imbecile theory would make the political “gifts” of a fascistic billionaire the instrument for improving the conditions of life for working people in America. The word “prostration” doesn’t do justice to the collapse of any opposition by the Democratic Party to the ultra-right takeover of the US government, which next January will include not only the White House and both houses of Congress, but the Supreme Court as well, once Trump nominates and the Republican Senate confirms an ultra-right successor to the late and unlamented Antonin Scalia.

Obama spoke in this way at what may well be his final press conference in order to perform one last service to the American ruling elite. Recognizing that the victory of Trump means a fundamental reorientation by the ruling class, towards the prosecution of an all-out assault on working people using the most ruthless methods possible, Obama is doing his part in chloroforming popular consciousness.

While the Trump administration is assembling an ultra-right cadre to carry out the dismantling of economic and environmental regulations, halt enforcement of civil rights, voting rights and restraints on police brutality, slash taxes for the wealthy, and pour trillions into building up the military-intelligence apparatus, Obama preaches complacency.

And Obama’s services are appreciated. Trump’s campaign manager Kellyanne Conway hailed the comments of leading Democrats and contrasted them to the anti-Trump protests around the country. “Folks should do what President Obama, Secretary Clinton and others are doing, frankly,” she said. “I heard Senator [Bernie] Sanders this morning, which is to support this new president-elect and his mission to unify the country and to implement his 100-day plan.”



[Edited 11/15/2016 4:58:22 AM ]

11/15/2016 5:12:06 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  

Mercedes_3
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Are you excited?

11/15/2016 5:42:17 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
condor_0000
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The Democratic Party (and liberalism) is such a f**king embarrassment. And then, the stupid f**ks that they are, the Democratic Party elite wonder why voters abandoned them.

Hello, Democratic Party elites, the voters abandoned you because you're all just a bunch of pussies who are always eager to show your deep love for Republicans, fascists, corporations, banksters, Wall Street, the military industrial complex, war, killer-cops and police-state spying on the American people.

Nobody loves and admires the far-right-wing, which is hated by the majority of Americans, more than the Democratic Party elite. All they ever ask is that we all embrace gays and minorities, hold hands and sing Kumbaya, while the gangster-capitalist one-percenters f**k us all up the ass.

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From “political revolution” to collaboration: Sanders and Warren pledge to work with Trump
14 November 2016
World Socialist Web Site
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/11/14/pers-n14.html

11/15/2016 7:11:30 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  

bumblebee7
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Who Listens to the worse President we ever had???,....he has no credibility, except to others, who have no credibility either.

11/15/2016 7:12:15 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  

bumblebee7
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Quote from Mercedes_3:
Are you excited?


....

nutcase is more like it.

Can we deport him to your country???

11/15/2016 7:12:56 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
crumpet_dreams
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No one listens to Obama anymore.

11/15/2016 7:19:38 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  

bumblebee7
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did they ever?

11/15/2016 7:22:44 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
crumpet_dreams
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OT: Fascism would be great for America

11/15/2016 7:27:54 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
condor_0000
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Quote from crumpet_dreams:
OT: Fascism would be great for America


Well, Trump, Obama, and the ruling-class one-percenters all certainly think so. And here's why they think so:

"Fascism in power is least of all the rule of the petty bourgeoisie. On the contrary, it is the most ruthless dictatorship of monopoly capital." -- Leon Trotsky



[Edited 11/15/2016 7:28:13 AM ]

11/15/2016 7:52:20 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  

bumblebee7
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No one pays attention to Condor either to the point, he responds to his own comments.

They say Obama is already starting to talk to himself.

11/15/2016 8:06:49 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
crumpet_dreams
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Quote from condor_0000:
Well, Trump, Obama, and the ruling-class one-percenters all certainly think so. And here's why they think so:

"Fascism in power is least of all the rule of the petty bourgeoisie. On the contrary, it is the most ruthless dictatorship of monopoly capital." -- Leon Trotsky


Yup, democracy is for pussies.

11/15/2016 8:12:32 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  

sandycrabs
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A pair of used " Depends " will be the symbol of omama's legacy !

11/15/2016 8:18:33 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  

archer513
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'Merica is not,nor ever has been a democracy.

It's a representative democratic constitutional republic


*thats a mouthful

11/15/2016 8:32:07 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
_Technologist01
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Quote from archer513:
'Merica is not,nor ever has been a democracy.

It's a representative democratic constitutional republic


*thats a mouthful


And you'd know about mouth fulls, huh Archer

11/15/2016 8:35:40 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  

stl1
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Did anyone notice the veins popping out of Obama's forehead?

It had to be tough for him.

11/15/2016 10:04:20 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
condor_0000
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Welcome to NAZI America!

The Democrats will do nothing to stop fascism, just as liberals did nothing to stop fascism in Germany even though Hitler did not have majority support. Fascism has never had majority support in any country at any time. Interestingly, Trump, like Hitler, did not win the popular vote. Liberalism paves the way for fascism.

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It’s Worse Than You Think
By Chris Hedges
November 14, 2016
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45841.htm

Excerpts:

Our capitalist democracy ceased to function more than two decades ago. We underwent a corporate coup carried out by the Democratic and Republican parties. There are no institutions left that can authentically be called democratic. Trump and Hillary Clinton in a functioning democracy would have never been presidential nominees. The long and ruthless corporate assault on the working class, the legal system, electoral politics, the mass media, social services, the ecosystem, education and civil liberties in the name of neoliberalism has disemboweled the country. It has left the nation a decayed wreck. We celebrate ignorance. We have replaced political discourse, news, culture and intellectual inquiry with celebrity worship and spectacle.

Fascism, as historian Gaetano Salvemini pointed out, is about “giving up free institutions.” It is the product of a democracy that has ceased to function. The democratic form will remain, much as it did during the dictatorships in the later part of the Roman Empire, but the reality is despotism, or in our case, corporate despotism.

The repression of dissents will soon resemble the repression under past totalitarian regimes. State security will become an invasive and palpable presence. The most benign forms of opposition will be treated as if they are a threat to national security. Many, hoping to avoid the wrath of the state, will become compliant and passive.

Trump, with no democratic institutions left to restrain him, will accelerate the corporate assault, from privatizing Social Security to exonerating militarized police forces for the indiscriminate murder of unarmed citizens, while he unleashes the fossil fuel industry and the war industry to degrade and most probably extinguish life on earth. His administration will be populated by the lunatic fringe of the Republican Party, men and women characterized by profound intellectual and moral impoverishment, as well as a stunning ability to ignore reality. These ideologues speak exclusively in the language of intimidation and violence.

Half the country lives in poverty. Our former manufacturing centers are decayed wrecks. Our constitutional rights, including due process and habeas corpus, have been taken from us by judicial fiat. Corporations and the billionaire class carry out legal tax boycotts. Police gun down unarmed citizens in the street. The military, under Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act, is empowered to carry out the extraordinary rendition of U.S. citizens within the United States, strip them of due process and hold them indefinitely in our black sites. We are the most spied upon, watched, eavesdropped, photographed and monitored population in human history. When the government watches you 24 hours a day, you cannot use the word “liberty.” That is the relationship between a master and a slave. And governments that wield this kind of surveillance power swiftly become totalitarian. Trump and his cronies have been handed by bankrupt elites the legal and physical mechanisms to instantly transform America into a brutal police state.

Rudy Giuliani; Newt Gingrich, who advocates stripping U.S. citizens of their citizenship if they are deemed to be terrorists; retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn and John Bolton—these men will not exhibit legal or moral restraint. They see the world through the Manichaean lens of good and evil, black and white, patriot and traitor. Politics have been transformed, as philosopher Walter Benjamin wrote of fascism, into aesthetics. And the ultimate aesthetic experience for the fascist, Benjamin warned, is war.

State terror and state violence, familiar to poor people of color in our internal colonies, will become familiar to all of us. Racism, nationalism, misogyny, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, intolerance, white supremacy, religious bigotry, hate crimes and a veneration of the hypermasculine values of military culture will define political and cultural discourse. The ruling elites will attempt to divert the growing frustration and rage toward the vulnerable—undocumented workers, Muslims, African-Americans, Latinos, homosexuals, feminists and others. White vigilante violence will be directed at those the state demonizes with little or no legal ramifications. New enemies, at home and abroad, will be manufactured. Our endless wars in the Middle East will be expanded, perhaps to include a confrontation with Russia.

The cowardice of the liberal class meant it lost all credibility, much as Bernie Sanders did when he sold his soul to the Clinton campaign. The liberal class proved it would stand and fight for nothing. It mouthed words and ideas it did not truly believe. It bears significant responsibility for the phenomena that created Trump. It should have had the foresight to abandon the Democratic Party after President Bill Clinton passed the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement, to build parties and institutions that defended the interests of the working class. If it had stood up for working men and women, it might have prevented them being seduced by protofascists.

The rot of our failed democracy vomited up a con artist who was a creation of the mass media—first playing a fictional master of the universe on a reality television show and later a politician as vaudevillian. Trump pulled in advertising dollars and ratings. Truth and reality were irrelevant.

Trump is emblematic of what anthropologists call “crisis cults.” A society in terminal decline often retreats into magical thinking. Reality is too much to bear. It places its faith in the fantastic and impossible promises of a demagogue or charlatan who promises the return of a lost golden age. The good jobs will come back. The nation will again be prosperous. The decrepit cities will be rebuilt. America will be great again. These promises, impossible to achieve, are no different from those peddled to Native Americans in the 1880s by the self-styled religious prophet Wovoka. He called on followers to carry out five-day dance ceremonies called the Ghost Dance. Native Americans donned shirts they were told protected them from bullets. They were assured that the buffalo herds would return, the dead warriors and chiefs would rise from the earth and the white men would disappear. None of his promises was realized. Many of his followers were gunned down like sheep by the U.S. army.

We face the most profound crisis in human history. Our response is to elect a man to the presidency who does not believe in climate change. Once societies unplug themselves from reality, those who speak truth become pariahs and enemies of the state. They are subject to severe state repression. Those lost in the reverie of the crisis cult applaud the elimination of these Cassandras. The appealing myths of magical thinking are pleasant opiates. But this narcotic, like all narcotics, leads to squalor and death.



[Edited 11/15/2016 10:06:16 AM ]

11/15/2016 10:08:41 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
marriedncheatin
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save a f**king tree...I thought I was I talker... Holly shitbtw OP I didn't read one word you said...just the title Get over it.. you lost and you had 8 yrs of socialism... sorry it wasn't communism... isn't that what you really want???

11/15/2016 10:54:56 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
condor_0000
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Quote from marriedncheatin:
Get over it.. you lost


The gangster-capitalist one-percenters won, just like they always do.

Liberalism paves the way for the fascist right. Never has that fact been more obvious than watching the Democratic Party now respond to the Trump win.

"Fascism in power is least of all the rule of the petty bourgeoisie. On the contrary, it is the most ruthless dictatorship of monopoly capital." -- Leon Trotsky

11/15/2016 11:02:53 AM Obama Tells America, "Give Fascism a Chance."  
marriedncheatin
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Answer my questions you sore loser are you a communist ? and what do you want? what is the perfect country what is the perfect formula that you find is so fit?