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beanhammer
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Wrong again.
Which Engineering school do you believe teaches that our oil deposits are created from rocks, and/or are replenishing themselves as fast as we can pump and burn them?
Trump University maybe?
Oh f**k it is an engineer.
Hey lobo why would Muldoon think that adding oxygen to
An living orgamism would keep it from farting methane
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lobo_corazon
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Ask Muldoon.
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louie6332
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Robot, you say: “We pump biogenic oil and natural gas which is in large supply.” Robot, that is a matter of faith and faith alone, there is no evidence for it, and it is put forward by parties that have a vested interest in ignoring the evidence we have and making the public think that there is a limited about of crude oil and natural gas and that when it is gone, it is gone, that it does not regenerate. But the accumulating evidence contradicts that.
First of all, crude oil has never been produced in a laboratory from decayed plants and animals under conditions of heat and pressure, it has not been demonstrated in a lab, nor has it been explained how that can be done. And the theoretical discussions, while generally elaborate, typically remain unspecified in rigorous chemical formulae that identify chemical transformation processes). “And nobody has yet synthesized crude oil or coal in the lab from a beaker of algae or ferns.” But, in sharp contrast, Methane has been synthetically produced in a rigorous laboratory setting with a full specification of the chemical formulae involved in the combination of iron oxide, calcium carbonate, and water to produce methane at pressure conditions of the Earth’s upper mantle. Furthermore, crude oil and natural gas have been found on planets, such as a moon of Jupiter for example, upon which no plants and animals exist. And it has been found being created on Mars by fluid rock interaction in the crust with no evidence of biologic or organic processes involved.
Second, dead plants and animals turning into oil and gas on their own violate the second law of thermodynamics, a principle which specifies that energy disperses when permitted, such that the energy flow never reverses.
Third, the accumulating evidence (and it continues to come in) favors crude oil and natural gas being made in the mantel of the Earth from rock. For example, the latest evidence found that hydrocarbons in fluids and gas bubbling up from the Lost City sea vent deep under the ocean is formed from carbon isotopes not commonly found in living plants and animals, adding weight to the abiotic theory of the origin of oil and gas in the mantle of the Earth.
This study, published in Science Magazine today, presents new evidence supporting the abiotic theory for the origin of oil, which asserts oil is a natural product the Earth generates constantly rather than a “fossil fuel” derived from decaying ancient forests and dead dinosaurs. Finding abiotic hydrocarbons in the Lost City sea vent fluids deep under the ocean is the second discovery in recent years adding weight to the abiotic theory of the origin of oil. See the link:
http://www.wnd.com/2008/02/45838/
See also the links:
http://www.wnd.com/2005/10/32899/
http://www.wnd.com/2005/11/33453/
What I am trying to tell you is there is no evidence that crude oil and natural gas is generated by decaying plants and animals. That's an assumption, a presumption, nothing more, and there is no evidence for it. It's politics, not science, just as man-made global warming and the falsification of temperature data is politics, not science.
Louie
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mr_bad_robot
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ouie6332
I normally find good reasons to disagree with lobo. However in this case he is correct. You on the other hand are going against sound science.
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lobo_corazon
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Louie - You are spreading lies. Please just stop. Every word you type is making the world a slightly more ignorant place.
Three different links, all to the same tabloid as your source? 
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lobo_corazon
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Crude oil produced from biomatter in a lab (4 years ago):
- http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/scientists-turn-algae-into-crude-oil-in-less-than-an-hour-180948282/
How naturally occurring Crude oil was formed, and the difference between crude and methane:
- https://www.ihrdc.com/els/po-demo/module01/mod_001_02.htm
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muldoon1959
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Oh f**k it is an engineer.
Hey lobo why would Muldoon think that adding oxygen to
An living orgamism would keep it from farting methane
Ask Muldoon.
How about do some actual research on the subject.
I'd be happy to tell you like lobo suggests,
but you're not going to read it anyway.
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lobo_corazon
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Why is there methane on Titan and Mars?
- https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/methane-on-mars-titan/
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beanhammer
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Crude oil produced from biomatter in a lab (4 years ago):
- http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/scientists-turn-algae-into-crude-oil-in-less-than-an-hour-180948282/
How naturally occurring Crude oil was formed, and the difference between crude and methane:
- https://www.ihrdc.com/els/po-demo/module01/mod_001_02.htm
So it takes the earth millions of years. But if man simulates the process he can make it in
An hour.
Way to prove your self wrong
Sherlock
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lobo_corazon
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Oh my god you people are sheep.
1) Man has produced crude in a lab from biomatter, proving Louie a bald-faced liar since he specifically claimed that was impossible.
2) Doing so requires tremendous amounts of energy input - Far more than the produced oil is worth.
3) The amount of oil produced in that hour would last humanity a tiny fraction of a millisecond at our consumption rate.
4) Only human-looking lemmings who have no fundamental understanding of how the earth works could believe that oil is being naturally produced fast enough to replenish what we are burning. It's an insane idea.
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beanhammer
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How about do some actual research on the subject.
I'd be happy to tell you like lobo suggests,
but you're not going to read it anyway.
Ok explain to us how
Your theory of adding oxygen to oxygen consuming microbes
Causes them to quit farting methane
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muldoon1959
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Ok explain to us how
Your theory of adding oxygen to oxygen consuming microbes
Causes them to quit farting methane
See, there's this thing called Google.
And if you go there, and type in
compost vs landfill, it'll tell you all about it.
It'll explain the difference between anaeorbic
decomposition and aerobic decomposition and
why compost doesn't produce methane where landfills do.
Granted. It is kind of dangerous territory for you
because you might end up "knowing shit".
Oh. And it's not "my" theory.
It's actual science and biochemistry.
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beanhammer
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See, there's this thing called Google.
And if you go there, and type in
compost vs landfill, it'll tell you all about it.
It'll explain the difference between anaeorbic
decomposition and aerobic decomposition and
why compost doesn't produce methane where landfills do.
Granted. It is kind of dangerous territory for you
because you might end up "knowing shit".
Oh. And it's not "my" theory.
It's actual science and biochemistry.
My bad i thought i was chatting with educated people.
You as well as lobo seem to think if you google it then
It is a fact.
My guess is jester will know i will ask him
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muldoon1959
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My bad i thought i was chatting with educated people.
You as well as lobo seem to think if you google it then
It is a fact.
My guess is jester will know i will ask him
I am educated.
I'm smart too.
Smart enough to know that you're not going
to listen to anything I have to say.
Smart enough to know you won't trust any
links I might provide.
Smart enough to know that some things you
just have to find out for yourself.
So go ahead and google what I told you to google.
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lobo_corazon
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My bad i thought i was chatting with educated people.
You as well as lobo seem to think if you google it then
It is a fact.
My guess is jester will know i will ask him
Well thank God we have Jester here as a credible authority on Geology, since we can't believe what all the actual Geologists have written!
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beanhammer
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Well thank God we have Jester here as a credible authority on Geology, since we can't believe what all the actual Geologists have written!
I am happy you are entertained
But the truth is i have as
Good a chance of getting information out of jester as
I do you or muldoon.
And what is bad is jester is
Just acting stupid you and
Muldoon think you have intelligence.
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muldoon1959
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You're the one that kept claiming to have a college education.
How about putting it to use and do some actual research.
There are after all actual scientific papers that can be found.
The internet is the information super highway.
Granted, I know you like to hang out on bullshit blvd,
but the information is still there.
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beanhammer
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You're the one that kept claiming to have a college education.
How about putting it to use and do some actual research.
There are after all actual scientific papers that can be found.
The internet is the information super highway.
Granted, I know you like to hang out on bullshit blvd,
but the information is still there.
Under your theory your mother
Put the plastic wrap on top of the potato salad to make it
Spoil faster.
No disrespect meant towards your mother
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beanhammer
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Damn this is a fun thread.
Hey jester jump in and help your cousins out.
Lobo and muldoon
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muldoon1959
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Under your theory your mother
Put the plastic wrap on top of the potato salad to make it
Spoil faster.
No disrespect meant towards your mother
Well, so much for your so called edumacation.
Damn you're dumb.
A: It's not a theory.
B: It's not mine.
It's from an actual scientific paper that
talks about why composting does not create
methane and why landfill does.
Last but not least
C: educating your dumb a** is not my job.
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louie6332
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Muldoom, you say: “I am educated, I’m smart too”. Muldoom, if you were so smart, you would not be a Liberal, and Lobo, if you were so smart, you would not be a socialist. Many of the kids in college today have high IQs (IQ measures the speed at which you can think, nothing more), but many of them are eaten up with presumption, and that’s their downfall, and it’s the downfall of both of you. It’s a fact that there is crude oil and natural gas on planets that have no plant and animal life. This business of countless trillions of barrels of oil being created by billions of tons of rotting dinosaurs is presumption, nothing more. There is not one shred of evidence to support it, and yet you believe it as if it were the gospel truth, because the Government, which is the ultimate authority in your mind, told you so, never mind that they have an official policy of lying to its own people, and a vested interest in lying to them.
You have to be careful in reading research papers today to note what is observation and what is assumption and presumption, they often confuse the two. And a lot of researchers today will draw incorrect conclusions from observations. They are also bad to confuse cause with effect. You would think professional researchers would be more careful about jumping to conclusions about whether something is cause or effect, but they aren’t. A researcher who is worth his salt actually has to check to see whether something is a cause or an effect, you can’t just assume it as so many researchers today are want to do. And just because they have a “doctor” in front of their name does not mean their research paper is not garbage. In fact research papers today supporting man-made global warming are all garbage based on falsified data. So you can’t just read their conclusion without checking to see if their conclusions are valid, you have to follow the logic.
Louie
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muldoon1959
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Meanwhile you get all your information from
the goat herders guide to the galaxy.
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trackker
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Meanwhile you get all your information from
the goat herders guide to the galaxy.
Is that the new go to for liberals?
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muldoon1959
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Is that the new go to for liberals?
Typical dumbshit rightwinger reply.
"I know you are but what am I"
Just the average argument of a five year old.
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trackker
Vancouver, WA
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Typical dumbshit rightwinger reply.
"I know you are but what am I"
Just the average argument of a five year old.
Nah dude, I was just asking, since you seem to be really stupid, a liberal, and probably dumb enough to get your news from a goat herder.
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muldoon1959
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So, not even smart enough to understand the reference.
Got it.
So sad.
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scarredandtatto
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His insult game is weak as f**k!
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rambo_was_real
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His insult game is weak as f**k!
You mean like the font coded keyboards that wrote the program to hack Pedo Podesta's email account and your argument that claimed that?
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scarredandtatto
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Weak as f**k
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rambo_was_real
Aurora, CO
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Weak as f**k
At least you're consistant.
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muldoon1959
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Maybe you should stick to posting at paranoidfantasy.com
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rambo_was_real
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Maybe you should stick to posting at paranoidfantasy.com
Maybe you should let fatass fight his own battles.
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scarredandtatto
Oral, SD
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Fatass got tired of you, c*nt
And if you thought that was a battle, ooooooooooo, you wouldn't hang with me very long anyway.
sad as f**k
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rambo_was_real
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 whatever you gotta tell yourself to feel better about your life, Lardass.
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lobo_corazon
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Muldoom, you say: “I am educated, I’m smart too”. Muldoom, if you were so smart, you would not be a Liberal, and Lobo, if you were so smart, you would not be a socialist.
Einstein was a raving socialist. If you want to lump me in with that class of intelligence, I'm cool with that! 
Many of the kids in college today have high IQs (IQ measures the speed at which you can think, nothing more), but many of them are eaten up with presumption, and that’s their downfall, and it’s the downfall of both of you. It’s a fact that there is crude oil and natural gas on planets that have no plant and animal life.
No. It is a lie, believed by desperate fossil fuel addicts and morons who don't know the difference between crude oil and methane.
I even spoon-fed you a fossil fuel industry article that explains both what the difference is and how the lakes of methane came to be on Titan. But of course you didn't bother to read it, because in your mind you know more about it than the Geologists and Chemists do. Such willful ignorance.
This business of countless trillions of barrels of oil being created by billions of tons of rotting dinosaurs is presumption, nothing more. There is not one shred of evidence to support it, and yet you believe it as if it were the gospel truth, because the Government, which is the ultimate authority in your mind, told you so, never mind that they have an official policy of lying to its own people, and a vested interest in lying to them.
Clearly every scientist in the world has been paid off by every government in the world and together they've engaged in a conspiracy to hide the truth about fossil fuels. (end sarcasm)
But hey, you're a birther. Unicorn fantasy like that makes your emotional gut feel good, so you can't help but believe it!
You have to be careful in reading research papers today to note what is observation and what is assumption and presumption, they often confuse the two. And a lot of researchers today will draw incorrect conclusions from observations. They are also bad to confuse cause with effect. You would think professional researchers would be more careful about jumping to conclusions about whether something is cause or effect, but they aren’t. A researcher who is worth his salt actually has to check to see whether something is a cause or an effect, you can’t just assume it as so many researchers today are want to do. And just because they have a “doctor” in front of their name does not mean their research paper is not garbage. In fact research papers today supporting man-made global warming are all garbage based on falsified data. So you can’t just read their conclusion without checking to see if their conclusions are valid, you have to follow the logic.
Nobody believes you have ever read an actual peer-reviewed research paper written by legitimate subject-matter experts. It would be completely out of character for you. You don't have the slightest clue what you are talking about.
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scarredandtatto
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waaaaaaay too much time spent on Lou. Well done, but way too much time wasted on Lou.
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muldoon1959
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Yeah.
I'll second that thought.
With Louie, it's just best to mock and move on.
Anything more is a waste of effort.
Explaining stuff to Louie is like trying to read Shakespeare to a hamster
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louie6332
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Louie, this is Muldoon and my Socialist buddy Lobo, “we are educated, and smart too”. We know, for a fact, that dinosaurs and rotting animal and plant matter turns into crude oil. How do we know? Well, we have seen it with our own eyes in our own compost pile, the compost turns into a puddle of crude oil. When that happens, we have to throw the compost away, because crude oil is not good for gardens.
No, just kidding. We haven’t personally seen this happen, nor has anyone else. So how do we know? Well, we know because the textbooks in our Universities and engineering schools say it happens. That’s how. And if you can’t trust the textbooks, who can you trust? Textbook companies make a lot of money selling textbooks to schools (ask Obama, that’s one thing his Common Core curriculum is all about), and they determine what goes into the textbook, and their information in the matter at hand comes from the oil companies, who have a vested interest in what is taught. It’s all in knowing who to trust Louie. You are trusting sources who have no vested interest in what is taught, we trust the experts in the field, those who have a vested interest in what is taught.
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jason_in_tx
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)
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beanhammer
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Oh f**k it is a moran
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muldoon1959
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It's easy to lie and obfuscate the facts when it
comes to global warming for the simple reason
that greenhouse gasses are invisible.
You can't just take a picture of their accumulation
as proof like you can with say plastics.
There's no hiding that one because you can take
a picture of these giant garbage islands forming
out in the oceans.
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ludlowlowell
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Here on the Gulf Coast we see the ocean encroaching more and more every year, most probably due to polar caps melting. Global warming seems to ne a fact. But I think liberals exaggerate the problem, I don't think restricting greenhouse gases are going to help much, and I don't think there is much we can do to stop global warming.
Liberals use global warming as an excuse to out restrictions on business, because they hate business. They want the government to own and run everything.
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muldoon1959
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Here on the Gulf Coast we see the ocean encroaching more and more every year, most probably due to polar caps melting. Global warming seems to ne a fact. But I think liberals exaggerate the problem, I don't think restricting greenhouse gases are going to help much, and I don't think there is much we can do to stop global warming.
Liberals use global warming as an excuse to out restrictions on business, because they hate business. They want the government to own and run everything.
As Maxwell Smart used to say.
"Missed it by that much".
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scarredandtatto
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You can't just take a picture of their accumulation
as proof like you can with say plastics.
I just watched a science show that said that by 2050 the weight of plastics in the oceans will equal the weight of fish in the ocean.
CAN YOU F**KING IMAGINE?!
I blame global warming on Bible Thumping idiots
I concur...that's funny
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rambo_was_real
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I just watched a science show that said that by 2050 the weight of plastics in the oceans will equal the weight of fish in the ocean.
CAN YOU F**KING IMAGINE?!
 As long as he doesn't think a conservative is saying it, this dumbf**k will believe ANYthing.
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louie6332
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Lud, the polar ice caps are not melting. Furthermore the average earth temperature is cooling, not warming. We've been in a cooling period for some time now. Man has no measurable influence on the Earth's average temperature. Man made global warming is a Government hoax, just like the evolution of man on Earth from monkeys or green slime or whatever is a hoax.
The exponential increase in earthquake and volcanic activity, the strange weather patterns the strange sounds in the sky, changes in the sun, are due to gravitational tidal forces from the approaching Nemesis system. Man has nothing to do with it. Man-made global warming is a Government hoax.
Louie
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ludlowlowell
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You might be right, Louie, but that's not the information I have. Meanwhile I see the encroachment of the Gulf of Mexico on our beaches, and the constant dredging local government does to hold it back, with my own eyes.
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lobo_corazon
Orleans, ON
47, joined May. 2008
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Here on the Gulf Coast we see the ocean encroaching more and more every year, most probably due to polar caps melting. Global warming seems to ne a fact. But I think liberals exaggerate the problem, I don't think restricting greenhouse gases are going to help much, and I don't think there is much we can do to stop global warming.
For some reason the right wing has found willing buyers for the claim that no matter how hard we try, 8 billion humans and our machines can't possibly cause any problems to the environment.
Any rational person can observe that we do. We have killed off countless species that will never been seen again. We created the Sahara desert. We turned rain forests into arid plains. We turned plains into lakes. We poisoned lakes so that no fish will live there for decades. We turned rolling hills into open pit mines. We irradiated regions so that it won't be safe there for centuries. And now we have nuclear weapons, in sufficient quantities to wipe out all living things on the planet.
But don't worry, we can do whatever we want and not hurt anything? Really??
Liberals use global warming as an excuse to out restrictions on business, because they hate business. They want the government to own and run everything.
lol - What a ridiculous claim.
A wiser man would stop yapping about things he doesn't understand (in this case liberals), and make an effort to learn something about them before just making himself look sillier.
Now to be fair, you could say "liberals care more about people than businesses". I would grant you that!
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scarredandtatto
Oral, SD
51, joined Aug. 2013
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As long as he doesn't think a conservative is saying it, this dumbf**k will believe ANYthing.
What's your meaning c*nt?
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