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1/4/2017 6:17:53 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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NO, THE DEA HASN’T MADE CBD OIL ILLEGAL… YET
Published: December 29, 2016



SOURCE: MPN
Austin, TX — An administrative change by the Drug Enforcement Administration has left users of CBD oil, a popular tincture derived from agricultural hemp, fearful that they could lose access to this vital health remedy.

CBD oil is currently considered legal in all 50 states, and agricultural hemp, a non-psychoactive variety of the cannabis plant from which CBD oil is extracted, is legally grown in many states. While scientific research into its benefits is just beginning, preliminary results show that CBD oil can benefit conditions ranging from epilepsy to chronic pain.

But on Dec. 14, the DEA added a notice to the Federal Register that quietly informed the public that it had established “a new drug code for marihuana extract.” The DEA’s argument is that the agency is entitled to regulate CBD oil because all extracts contain trace amounts of THC, the active ingredient in cannabis which remains illegal at the federal level.

Establishing this new drug code is, effectively, the first step toward classifying CBD oil alongside cannabis under the Controlled Substances Act. This act classifies cannabis as a Schedule 1 substance, alongside drugs like heroin which are considered to have no practical medical benefit.

However, legal experts and advocates for hemp doubt that the DEA has the mandate to easily ban CBD oil.

“They’re positioning themselves to potentially overstep their boundaries,” said John Ryan, founder and director of Ananda Hemp, in an interview with MintPress News.

A subsidiary of the Australian hemp company EcoFibre Industries, Ananda Hemp produces CBD oil from the hundreds of acres of hemp the company grows in Kentucky and Tennessee.

Ryan stressed that CBD oil is not going to “vanish overnight.” He continued:

“People need to understand that there are federal laws that the DEA cannot bypass. If they do, they can expect legal challenges from the industry.”

While Ryan expressed serious concerns about the DEA’s move, he said he believes the agency would struggle to make hemp illegal under current laws, thanks to multiple protections put in place by Congress. Section 7606 of the 2014 Farm Bill legalized hemp cultivation in the United States as part of five-year, state-regulated pilot programs. Subsequent additions to the 2015 and 2016 Congressional Appropriations Act prohibited the DEA from going after the products produced under these pilot programs.

Ryan added that these appropriations acts “clearly contain language that permits the interstate transit and commerce of these products under the guise that it’s initial market research under the five-year pilot program.”

Indeed, the Denver-based Hoban Law Firm has already promised to challenge the DEA if it tried to ban CBD. On Thursday, Robert Hoban, the firm’s managing partner, called the new classification “an invalid rule” in an interview with Fox 31 Denver. He continued:

“At the end of the day, the DEA needs to sit down, read the Controlled Substances Act, read the farm bill and understand that what they’re saying has practical implications on commerce and on patients around this country. That’s not weight they should throw around so lightly.”

Speaking to MintPress, Ryan was critical of some media outlets for jumping to conclusions about the DEA ruling, which he said creates unnecessary fear among CBD oil users.

For example, Leafly, a popular cannabis news and information website, declared on Dec. 14, “New DEA Rule Says CBD Oil is Really, Truly, No-Joke Illegal.”

“Why don’t we focus more on letting the public know that they are protected?” asked Ryan.

The DEA’s threat against CBD oil is just the latest controversial move by the agency to target over-the-counter herbal remedies. In August, the DEA threatened to ban kratom, a popular treatment for both chronic pain and the withdrawal symptoms caused by addiction to opioid painkillers, only to suspend their efforts amid a wave of popular protest.

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1/4/2017 6:19:53 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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I was looking for some of that in a health food store at the local mall in Lufkin. They didn't have it.

1/4/2017 6:20:14 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

naprinciple
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For all you law and order types. Ever wonder why the government needed a Constitutional Amendment to ban booze, but not to ban drugs?

1/4/2017 6:25:26 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Quote from longbobby:
I was looking for some of that in a health food store at the local mall in Lufkin. They didn't have it.


Think you can order it, CA maybe. It's helped so many people. I'll try to find some of the articles. One was an ex cop with severe Parkinson. 1 hour he was MUCH better. A young girl had 300 seizures a day, down to 1 every few weeks.

Simple. It's natural, it works. Feds don't want it.

1/4/2017 6:28:11 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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https://canabidol.com/shop/cbd-gel-tabs/ Is one vendor.



http://hightimes.com/culture/10-little-known-uses-for-cbd/



[Edited 1/4/2017 6:30:25 PM ]

1/4/2017 7:15:45 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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CBD is very expensive. you can by hemp oil on Amazon for much less.
this crap about making CBD illegal is foolish.
But I in no way favor legalizing pot.

1/4/2017 7:19:36 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

naprinciple
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Quote from sillylaugher61:
CBD is very expensive. you can by hemp oil on Amazon for much less.
this crap about making CBD illegal is foolish.
But I in no way favor legalizing pot.




Why doesn't the government need a Constitutional Amendment to ban marijuana?

1/4/2017 7:19:52 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Cannabidiol (CBD) one of the main ingredients in cannabis is about to be classed as a medicine by the UK medicines regulator.

The decision made by the government’s Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) came about following claims that the drug successfully treats serious diseases.

RT reports:

The new classification means products containing CBD can now be legally distributed across the UK. Gerald Heddel from MHRA told Sky News that the change came about “based on the fact that we noted that people were making some quite stark claims about serious diseases that could be treated with CBD.”

Alongside Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), CBD is one of the main components of cannabis, accounting for 40 percent of the marijuana plant’s extract. Unlike THC, which is psychoactive, CBD is non-psychoactive, antipsychotic and does not cause anxiety.

The compound’s lack of a high makes it less appealing to recreational users but of particular interest to the medical community, with campaigners claiming it aids in easing pain related to diseases including cancer, depression, Crohn’s disease, and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

“It was clear that people are using this product with the understandable belief that it will actually help,” Heddel said.

“MHRA will now work with individual companies and trade bodies in relation to making sure products containing CBD, used for a medical purpose, which can be classified as medicines, satisfy the legal requirements of the Human Medicines Regulations 2012,” an MHRA spokesperson said in a statement, adding that 18 companies have been advised of their change in opinion.

Last month, researchers from the University of Alabama found CBD reduces both the frequency and severity of epileptic seizures in both children and adults. In two-thirds of the 81 participants the severity was reduced by at least 50 percent.

During 2016, an increasing number of MPs called for “root and branch” reform of Britain’s “failing” drug policy, with a cross party report indicating that the exchequer could increase its tax revenue by as much as £1 billion (US$1.23 billion) a year through the legalisation of cannabis.

1/4/2017 7:20:39 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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https://healthyhempoil.com/best-cbd-oil/

1/4/2017 7:46:16 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Well, first of all, the Federal Government has no constitutional right to regulate medicine and remedies. The FDA has tried to illegally outlaw herbal remedies many times and has had to be slapped down by the courts, and this is just one more of those cases. CBD oil, which is said to be legal in all states, is an effective remedy for seizures, epilepsy, sleep problems, anxiety and stress relief, chronic pain, Parkinson’s, multiple sclerosis, is an effective cure for cancer, and stimulates bone fracture healing, among other things.

CBD is said to be legal in all states, and CBD by the way, does not contain the hallucination and does not show up in standard druguropathic doctors sell and use it. BlueBird Botanicals makes it under the label “Brain Power CBD Blend”, but some companies sell sell it only through the doctor.

I should also mention one other thing. Studies have shown that remedies combined with prayer are even more powerful than remedies alone, it causes the patient to recover more quickly with fewer complications. And if you are having surgery in a hospital, taking a probiotic beforehand also leads to quicker recovery with fewer complications.

And if you are a Christian trying to obey God, you can also turn to the Saints for miraculous cures. For example, I recently become acquainted with Saint Charbel, a Marian monk-priest who lived in the mountains of Lebanon. Oil blessed by Saint Charbel (vials of the oil that have been put in his tomb for one year) has been used to miraculously cure all sorts of maladies. I personally know of its being applied four times to maladies here and it cured the maladies each and every time. I personally saw it cure seizures twice, and know of it curing a severe gall and liver stone attack once (after which the stones passed), and an infected tooth (the infection popped twenty minutes later). The oil is applied in the form of a cross with a request that Saint Charbel cure the problem. The effect on the seizure victim was so sudden it startled me—I knew I was witnessing a miracle, and it had a profound effect on me just witnessing it, something supernatural was happening inside me, and I didn't expect that. Anyway, I just thought I would mention it.

Louie

1/4/2017 7:47:09 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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must be very careful of buying foreign made hemp oil.

1/4/2017 8:32:52 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
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Quote from longbobby:
I was looking for some of that in a health food store at the local mall in Lufkin. They didn't have it.


I just saw a web site a few days ago that was selling that. I think it was based in California.

They were selling everything. Seeds, weed CBD oil etc with guaranteed delivery by US mail! I'll have to see if I can find it again.

1/4/2017 8:36:20 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
scarredandtatto
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you f**king morons act like Google hasn't been invnted, "lemme see if I can find it for you".

1/4/2017 8:40:31 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Quote from scarredandtatto:
you f**king morons act like Google hasn't been invnted, "lemme see if I can find it for you".


Google keeps good track of you too!

1/4/2017 8:43:58 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
scarredandtatto
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IDGAF...all they'll find is pot infusion recipes and porn searches.

I do search for bizarre shit in hopes that someone sees it someday. Just in case you're curious, there are no videos of a cat f**king a monkey.

1/4/2017 8:51:31 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Quote from scarredandtatto:
IDGAF...all they'll find is pot infusion recipes and porn searches.

I do search for bizarre shit in hopes that someone sees it someday. Just in case you're curious, there are no videos of a cat f**king a monkey.


Ok that made me laugh!

1/4/2017 8:56:38 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
scarredandtatto
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I know. I'm a funny son of a b*tch.



And truly, there isn't.

1/4/2017 9:59:58 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Quote from sillylaugher61:
must be very careful of buying foreign made hemp oil.


That's a good point. That first link may have been, looked like a global HQ. I have seen it from CA, just have to look again.

1/4/2017 10:07:00 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Quote from louie6332:
Well, first of all, the Federal Government has no constitutional right to regulate medicine and remedies. The FDA has tried to illegally outlaw herbal remedies many times and has had to be slapped down by the courts, and this is just one more of those cases. CBD oil, which is said to be legal in all states, is an effective remedy for seizures, epilepsy, sleep problems, anxiety and stress relief, chronic pain, Parkinson’s, multiple sclerosis, is an effective cure for cancer, and stimulates bone fracture healing, among other things.

CBD is said to be legal in all states, and CBD by the way, does not contain the hallucination and does not show up in standard druguropathic doctors sell and use it. BlueBird Botanicals makes it under the label “Brain Power CBD Blend”, but some companies sell sell it only through the doctor.


Louie
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Right, they shouldn't but they can't keep their govt noses out of it and as govt keeps expanding it gets worse exponentially. DEA claims a very small trace amount THC, so they think it's their department.

Back a bit a nurse in Canada worked with Huron's I believe, that had a natural cancer cure of 4 simple herbs. Slippery elm, rhubarb root, 2 others. Infused in a tea. Her name was Renee Caisse. When she died the ministry destroyed all work. It did live on though, renamed Essiac tea (reversed her last name) US studies have shown it works but they are constantly discredited. Author of a book wasn't allowed to have it printed. Essiac available many herbal places such as herbal healer with much documentation. Tea or chemo, feds say chemo they make money off that.

1/5/2017 6:47:13 AM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Quote from shawnee_b:
\

Right, they shouldn't but they can't keep their govt noses out of it and as govt keeps expanding it gets worse exponentially. DEA claims a very small trace amount THC, so they think it's their department.


The amount of THC doesn't matter. The schedule one substance that is illegal is the plant marijuana. That means anything that comes from the plant is illegal at the federal level. Personally, I wouldn't try to buy CBD oil in any state where marijuana isn't legal.

1/5/2017 7:56:39 AM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Quote from shawnee_b:
Think you can order it, CA maybe. It's helped so many people. I'll try to find some of the articles. One was an ex cop with severe Parkinson. 1 hour he was MUCH better. A young girl had 300 seizures a day, down to 1 every few weeks.

Simple. It's natural, it works. Feds don't want it.



My booklet has a web address; www.hemplandusa.com

1/5/2017 1:17:04 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Thanks Silly just checked them out. I'd like to find the gel caps but drops under the tongue same thing.

1/6/2017 12:34:09 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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does anyone have any suggestions on how to properly use hemp oil?!
Can I mix some of it in my workout drinks to help with muscle pain?

1/6/2017 12:36:59 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Quote from sillylaugher61:
does anyone have any suggestions on how to properly use hemp oil?!
Can I mix some of it in my workout drinks to help with muscle pain?


From what I have read it's sublingual, under the tongue for a short period of time. The drops for sure. You'll absorb it best under the tongue. Caps I'm not sure.

1/6/2017 12:38:49 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
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Quote from sillylaugher61:
does anyone have any suggestions on how to properly use hemp oil?!
Can I mix some of it in my workout drinks to help with muscle pain?


Just down it fast ..... It's thick .

1/6/2017 2:14:42 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Signed the petition, at the bottom is the url

Stop CBD From Becoming A Schedule 1 Drug
Cure for Kids

The DEA is at it again! They are trying to make CBD(Cannabidiol) illegal even if it is derided from hemp a schedule 1 on January 13th 2017. We need to get this out to mainstream media and stop it! Millions of sick people & Children rely on CBD (Cannabidiol) for everyday living, CBD (Cannabidiol) has stopped children and adults with epilepsy. Look below at the link and read! https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/12/14/2016-29941/establishment-of-a-new-drug-code-for-marihuana-extract

This is going not only going to effect people's quality of life, but it will also take away thousands of jobs for the people who are currently working to help others with the use of industrial hemp and Cannabis. Please sign the petition, This is a group effort anyone who has any suggestions or would like to help!
Benefits of CBD "Cannabidiol"-Additional, preclinical studies suggest that CBD may have therapeutic benefits in the treatment of various conditions, including chronic pain, anxiety, nausea, rheumatoid arthritis, schizophrenia, diabetes, PTSD, alcoholism, strokes and cardiovascular disease, cancer, and other ailments.

This petition will be delivered to:
President of the United States
President
Barack Obama

1/6/2017 2:18:11 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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How to Use CBD Oil – How to Take CBD Oil

CBD is most commonly taken orally in a concentrated paste or drops/ tincture format. To take CBD oil first hold it under the tongue to be absorbed in the mouth prior to swallowing. This step is important because some of the CBD taken will be broken down by the digestive system. Other oral methods include capsules, mouth strips, and edibles such as chocolate bars. Many people also enjoy using CBD oil via vaporizers or inhalers as this is a near instant delivery method that can be quite effective. Others use CBD oil by taking it through the skin via lotions, balms, creams or patches. There are many ways to take CBD oil, what matters most is trying a few different approaches and seeing what works. Again, everyone is different.

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More info like dosage on the link.

https://cbdoilreview.org/cbd-cannabidiol/cbd-dosage/

1/6/2017 2:20:29 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
annamally
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Hemp oil and CBD oil are not the same .

1/6/2017 2:28:15 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

progrocknic
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Quote from shawnee_b:
Signed the petition, at the bottom is the url

Stop CBD From Becoming A Schedule 1 Drug
Cure for Kids

The DEA is at it again! They are trying to make CBD(Cannabidiol) illegal even if it is derided from hemp a schedule 1 on January 13th 2017. We need to get this out to mainstream media and stop it! Millions of sick people & Children rely on CBD (Cannabidiol) for everyday living, CBD (Cannabidiol) has stopped children and adults with epilepsy. Look below at the link and read! https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/12/14/2016-29941/establishment-of-a-new-drug-code-for-marihuana-extract

This is going not only going to effect people's quality of life, but it will also take away thousands of jobs for the people who are currently working to help others with the use of industrial hemp and Cannabis. Please sign the petition, This is a group effort anyone who has any suggestions or would like to help!
Benefits of CBD "Cannabidiol"-Additional, preclinical studies suggest that CBD may have therapeutic benefits in the treatment of various conditions, including chronic pain, anxiety, nausea, rheumatoid arthritis, schizophrenia, diabetes, PTSD, alcoholism, strokes and cardiovascular disease, cancer, and other ailments.

This petition will be delivered to:
President of the United States
President
Barack Obama


CBD is already illegal at the federal level. The schedule one status of marijuana includes the plant and all the cannabinoids found in marijuana. THC (except for synthetics), CBD, CBN, CBDV...... all illegal by federal law already.

1/6/2017 2:29:05 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Quote from annamally:
Hemp oil and CBD oil are not the same .


Correct Anna. Good link with differences. Seems state legalities may determine which a person can have. http://www.hemplandusa.com/?rn=541&action=show_detail

Both are still recommended sublingual though. Reason is in a post above.



http://www.hemplandusa.com/?rn=541&action=show_detail
RECOMMENDED USE:
As a dietary supplement, take one or two droppers per day. Place drops under your tongue, hold 60-90 seconds then swallow.

1/6/2017 2:29:32 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

progrocknic
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Quote from annamally:
Hemp oil and CBD oil are not the same .


Depends on who's labeling the bottle. Rick Simpsons hemp oil is mostly THC. However, plenty of marijuana establishments offer hemp oil that is all CBD. I don't like referring to any oil as hemp oil as it can get confusing.

1/6/2017 2:36:57 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
annamally
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Hemp oil made from the seeds .... CBD oil made from the leaves and flowers .

1/6/2017 2:39:15 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

progrocknic
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Quote from annamally:
Hemp oil made from the seeds .... CBD oil made from the leaves and flowers .


Not true. Rick Simpsons hemp oil is not made from the seeds, nor are a bunch of the hemp oils from marijuana dispensaries. Hemp seed oil is made from hemp seeds.

1/6/2017 2:42:36 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
scarredandtatto
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CBD is hemp oil it's extracted from the hemp plant. Maybe she meant that THC and CBD are not the same. That is a true statement.

As far as buying CBD oil in states that marijuana is illegal, I'd be cautious of buying it online. If it's sold in health food stores, then it must be OK, but my thinking is that since it's derived from a plant that is illegal...

1/6/2017 2:42:40 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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They are two different plants. Hemp oil comes from hemp plants. Cannabis oil from MJ. They are the same species yet different plants.

Here's the link again Anna, it's good info. Pictures too

https://healthyhempoil.com/hemp-oil-vs-cannabis-oil/

1/6/2017 2:44:29 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
scarredandtatto
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OH!

Knock yourself out then

1/6/2017 2:44:54 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

progrocknic
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Quote from shawnee_b:
They are two different plants. Hemp oil comes from hemp plants. Cannabis oil from MJ. They are the same species yet different plants.

Here's the link again Anna, it's good info. Pictures too

https://healthyhempoil.com/hemp-oil-vs-cannabis-oil/


As I've pointed out already, it all depends on who labels the bottles. Rick Simpson's hemp oil is made from the marijuana plant. He's the guy who made it famous. There is no standard for labelling these oils. It all relies on the person who labels the bottle, that's it.

1/6/2017 2:44:56 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Quote from scarredandtatto:
CBD is hemp oil it's extracted from the hemp plant. Maybe she meant that THC and CBD are not the same. That is a true statement.

As far as buying CBD oil in states that marijuana is illegal, I'd be cautious of buying it online. If it's sold in health food stores, then it must be OK, but my thinking is that since it's derived from a plant that is illegal...




1/6/2017 2:46:49 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

progrocknic
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This chart means absolutely nothing in the real world, where people are in charge of labelling the bottles.

The best way to tell the difference between oils is to go to a place that lists the amounts of cannabinoids in the oil. If they don't do that, whether it's call hemp oil or marijuana oil is irrelevant.

1/6/2017 2:46:51 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
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Confusion amongst the public on how exactly hemp oil differs from cannabidiol, or CBD, oil, has prompted the nonprofit Hemp Industries Association to issue a statement explaining the difference between the oils in order to ensure that consumers — specifically, medical marijuana patients — are not misled about the intended uses.

Hemp is often mistaken for its cannabis cousin, marijuana, even though smoking an entire garbage bag of hemp would not produce an altered state of consciousness, as hemp contains low levels of THC. Confusion between hemp oil and marijuana oil has spiked recently, as states have passed medical marijuana laws that allow for the use of strains of marijuana that are low in THC and high in CBD. Consumers often confuse hemp oil with CBD oil because both are low in THC and contain CBD.

“With hemp research and development pilot programs taking off this spring, and the hemp retail market growing at an incredible rate, it’s crucial that consumers and retailers alike understand the difference between hemp oil and CBD extracts,” Eric Steenstra, executive director of Hemp Industries Association, said in a separate statement.

“Our Hemp Industries Association position regarding this distinction calls on makers of CBD products to brand and market their products truthfully and clearly, so as to not further the confusion surrounding CBD products in the marketplace.”

Though hemp oil does contain low levels of CBD, typically less than 25 parts per million (ppm), CBD extracts “are produced either directly from cannabis flowers that are up to 15 percent CBD (150,000 ppm), or indirectly as a co-product of the flowers and leaves that are mixed in with the stalks during hemp stalk processing for fiber.”

Because of this distinction, the association says, “It is important for American farmers and processors of hemp to understand that most CBD in products mislabeled as ‘hemp oil’ is a product of large-scale hemp stalk and fiber processing facilities in Europe where the fiber is the primary material produced at a large scale.

“CBD is not a product or component of hemp seeds, and labeling to that effect is misleading and motivated by the desire to take advantage of the legal gray area of CBD under federal law.”

1/6/2017 2:54:20 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
scarredandtatto
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WOW! I just did a little looksee...CDB oil is legal in all 50 states. I assumed since it was derived from the marijuana plant that it couldn't be.

CDB is some good stuff too. It's not an intoxicant at all, but it has a lot of healing properties. I'd recommend a try.

1/6/2017 2:59:53 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Quote from progrocknic:
This chart means absolutely nothing in the real world, where people are in charge of labelling the bottles.

The best way to tell the difference between oils is to go to a place that lists the amounts of cannabinoids in the oil. If they don't do that, whether it's call hemp oil or marijuana oil is irrelevant.


While both contain both CBD and THC. Hemp oils higher CBD and lower THC than MJ oil. Anyone using MJ to make hemp oil is misleading and wrong.

It does not make the chart meaningless. Labeling incorrectly is a deception to the public. What if a person uses hemp oil with low THC (0.3) and the guy you mentioned used cannabis with a THC content of 50-60% and the person using it didn't know?

I haven't seen or used any. Haven't seen what is posted on the labels. Hemp oil should be made from hemp as the name implies.

1/6/2017 3:13:14 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Scar. CBD is in both oils/plants. Hemp oil is 18-27% CBD MJ oil is 10-15% CBD.

Both also contain THC. The parent plant, hemp or MJ determines the THC content.

Hemp .3% THC MJ oil 50-60%

Have you tried either? I'd love to hear opinions of people who have tried it and did it help?

1/6/2017 3:15:41 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  
scarredandtatto
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OK, this clarified my confusion.

Cannabis for industrial uses (hemp) was made illegal to grow without a permit under the Controlled Substances Act because of its relation to cannabis as a drug, and any imported products must meet a zero tolerance level.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States


Hemp IS cannabis and cannabis is illegal, generally. It can be grow with a permit, however. And according to what I've found CBD oil is legal in all 50 states, this I was unaware of.

In my mind I was thinking of CBD oil made in CO or CA in mom and pop shops like Rick Simpson oil.

1/6/2017 3:48:57 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Quote from shawnee_b:
While both contain both CBD and THC. Hemp oils higher CBD and lower THC than MJ oil. Anyone using MJ to make hemp oil is misleading and wrong.

It does not make the chart meaningless. Labeling incorrectly is a deception to the public. What if a person uses hemp oil with low THC (0.3) and the guy you mentioned used cannabis with a THC content of 50-60% and the person using it didn't know?

I haven't seen or used any. Haven't seen what is posted on the labels. Hemp oil should be made from hemp as the name implies.


I just visited the healthhempoil site. They do offer a nice variety. I would like to know how long a 1oz bottle last?

1/6/2017 3:51:49 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Silly I think it depends on what you are treating? I'll check that site out too.

Any input from persons who tried it? Love to know.

In KY hemp is legal, couple years ago. There are some hoops to go thru to grow it though. I have about 2 acres I could dedicate to hemp. Rest for livestock, gardens

1/6/2017 4:07:43 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Good site Silly. Capsules are affordable there! Good info too.

What are Entourage Softgels?
Entourage softgels contain high quality, raw hemp oil.

The reason why hemp oil is so popular, is because it is one of the best sources of CBD (cannabidiol). CBD is a natural cannabinoid found in all the plants of the cannabis family, including marijuana.

The industrial hemp plant has been cultivated worldwide for centuries. Ancient Eastern Asian civilizations, including China, used the oil and fibers of the hemp plant for supplementing their nutrition and creating tough fabrics.

Due to the widely spread recreational use of marijuana, the hemp plant (which is only a relative of marijuana) got a bad rep too and was even forbidden to be cultivated in many countries. Thankfully, hemp has now been reinstated as a great, beneficial plant.

When derived from the seeds and stalks of the industrial hemp plant, CBD rich oil contains little to no THC, which is why it is legal in all states and in many countries worldwide.

Since all our products at Healthy Hemp Oil contains only tiny traces (or no) THC, you can’t possibly get a high or any psychoactive effects from taking them.

On the contrary, CBD only offers you its benefits safely and legally.

Each hemp oil capsule contains 30mg of phytocannabinoids, giving you a nice, potent kick of goodness.

1/6/2017 4:15:31 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Quote from shawnee_b:
Good site Silly. Capsules are affordable there! Good info too.

What are Entourage Softgels?
Entourage softgels contain high quality, raw hemp oil.

The reason why hemp oil is so popular, is because it is one of the best sources of CBD (cannabidiol). CBD is a natural cannabinoid found in all the plants of the cannabis family, including marijuana.

The industrial hemp plant has been cultivated worldwide for centuries. Ancient Eastern Asian civilizations, including China, used the oil and fibers of the hemp plant for supplementing their nutrition and creating tough fabrics.

Due to the widely spread recreational use of marijuana, the hemp plant (which is only a relative of marijuana) got a bad rep too and was even forbidden to be cultivated in many countries. Thankfully, hemp has now been reinstated as a great, beneficial plant.

When derived from the seeds and stalks of the industrial hemp plant, CBD rich oil contains little to no THC, which is why it is legal in all states and in many countries worldwide.

Since all our products at Healthy Hemp Oil contains only tiny traces (or no) THC, you can’t possibly get a high or any psychoactive effects from taking them.

On the contrary, CBD only offers you its benefits safely and legally.

Each hemp oil capsule contains 30mg of phytocannabinoids, giving you a nice, potent kick of goodness.


On the Hempland site, they say on their homepage that their products are made in the USA
the Healthy site not so much. but I did take advantage of their free 7 day sample!

1/6/2017 4:21:59 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

progrocknic
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Again, CBD oil IS NOT LEGALLY FEDERALLY.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/12/14/2016-29941/establishment-of-a-new-drug-code-for-marihuana-extract

They passed it quietly to clear the confusion that people may have thought CBD oil was legal in the first place.



[Edited 1/6/2017 4:22:26 PM ]

1/6/2017 4:28:32 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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Both contain CBD. Hemp oil contains more than MJ oil. Why not just label and call it what it is? Hemp oil or cannabis oil? Different plants. It would help the confusion.

1/7/2017 3:24:03 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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so who has the best prices on American made CBD?

1/7/2017 3:40:11 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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I haven't found a site yet that really beats any others out. Entourage brand seems pretty popular and sold on many sites. They mfg and wholesale out.

1/7/2017 4:02:08 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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A health food store in Lufkin I was at the other day didn't have it. I used Google Earth to find the store I actually wanted to have a looky see at.

If they don't have any in stock I'm going to see if they can order some.

1/7/2017 4:06:30 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

shawnee_b
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They should be able to order hemp oil products. Actually more CBD than cannabis oil anyway.

1/7/2017 4:21:24 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Quote from louie6332:
Well, first of all, the Federal Government has no constitutional right to regulate medicine and remedies. The FDA has tried to illegally outlaw herbal remedies many times and has had to be slapped down by the courts, and this is just one more of those cases. CBD oil, which is said to be legal in all states, is an effective remedy for seizures, epilepsy, sleep problems, anxiety and stress relief, chronic pain, Parkinson’s, multiple sclerosis, is an effective cure for cancer, and stimulates bone fracture healing, among other things.

CBD is said to be legal in all states, and CBD by the way, does not contain the hallucination and does not show up in standard druguropathic doctors sell and use it. BlueBird Botanicals makes it under the label “Brain Power CBD Blend”, but some companies sell sell it only through the doctor.

I should also mention one other thing. Studies have shown that remedies combined with prayer are even more powerful than remedies alone, it causes the patient to recover more quickly with fewer complications. And if you are having surgery in a hospital, taking a probiotic beforehand also leads to quicker recovery with fewer complications.

And if you are a Christian trying to obey God, you can also turn to the Saints for miraculous cures. For example, I recently become acquainted with Saint Charbel, a Marian monk-priest who lived in the mountains of Lebanon. Oil blessed by Saint Charbel (vials of the oil that have been put in his tomb for one year) has been used to miraculously cure all sorts of maladies. I personally know of its being applied four times to maladies here and it cured the maladies each and every time. I personally saw it cure seizures twice, and know of it curing a severe gall and liver stone attack once (after which the stones passed), and an infected tooth (the infection popped twenty minutes later). The oil is applied in the form of a cross with a request that Saint Charbel cure the problem. The effect on the seizure victim was so sudden it startled me—I knew I was witnessing a miracle, and it had a profound effect on me just witnessing it, something supernatural was happening inside me, and I didn't expect that. Anyway, I just thought I would mention it.

Louie


Louie, check and make sure it's not past your Nappy-Nap time!

1/7/2017 5:11:22 PM CBD oil not illegal yet  

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Quote from fishnthec:
Louie, check and make sure it's not past your Nappy-Nap time!


Really fish, is this the best that you could add about this thread topic?