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Say what? One man is worth more than another man?

1/11/2017 3:56:55 PM McCain shame shame.  

darthv
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Much more than a rhyme.

What the hell happened to him in that Vietnamese prison?




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1/11/2017 3:57:40 PM McCain shame shame.  

viper1e
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He became an American hero.

1/11/2017 4:01:44 PM McCain shame shame.  
snowtires88
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Quote from viper1e:
He became an American hero.


Truth

I disagree whole heartedly with McCain on a few issues, but have a level of respect for him that Trump couldn't achieve in 5 lifetimes.

1/11/2017 4:05:16 PM McCain shame shame.  

darthv
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The country rejected his warmongering ideas when he ran for POTUS.

Many others have been captured and held prisoner...but they aren't parading around as war heroes.

And they certainly aren't trying to start a new war.

1/11/2017 4:06:36 PM McCain shame shame.  

shawnee_b
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"He wasn't a hero he got caught." The Donald

1/11/2017 5:24:29 PM McCain shame shame.  

shawnee_b
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Arizona Senator John McCain has admitted that he gave unverified information that would smear Donald Trump to the FBI. Information which somehow wound up leaked to the media.



Bizpacreview.com reported: “Late last year, I received sensitive information that has since been made public,” he wrote in a statement.

“Upon examination of the contents, and unable to make a judgment about their accuracy, I delivered the information to the Director of the FBI.

“That has been the extent of my contact with the FBI or any other government agency regarding this issue.”

The accusations published by Buzzfeed are admittedly unverified and potentially unverifiable

President-elect Trump and his staff have vehemently denied the veracity of the reports.



1/11/2017 5:25:45 PM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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Quote from darthv:
Much more than a rhyme.

What the hell happened to him in that Vietnamese prison?


He became a traitor. Worked for the North Vietnamese. That's why vets call him "Songbird" McCain.

1/11/2017 5:40:22 PM McCain shame shame.  

clarity101
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mccain also gave away security info during his 'imprisonment' in order to get release.
and now he turns over 'fake' documents to take down trump.

he is not my idea of a hero

1/11/2017 6:02:10 PM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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McCAIN ADMITS HE GAVE DOSSIER CONTAINING "SENSITIVE INFORMATION" ON TRUMP TO THE FBI
Published: January 11, 2017
blacklistednews /McCain_Admits_He_Gave_Dossier_Containing_%22Sensitive_Information%22_On_Trump_To_The_FBI/56251/0/38/38/Y/M


A Dossier now known to be fake. McCains political career is now over. He's through.

1/11/2017 6:20:47 PM McCain shame shame.  
god_says
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McCain did more damage,
and killed more crew, of the
U.S.S. Forestall, than the north
vietnamese & chinese, combined.

No reprimands, no jail time.
His daddy, was an admiral.



1/11/2017 7:16:13 PM McCain shame shame.  

viper1e
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Quote from darthv:
The country rejected his warmongering ideas when he ran for POTUS.

Many others have been captured and held prisoner...but they aren't parading around as war heroes.

And they certainly aren't trying to start a new war.


"Many others" took their chance and got out to come home at the first opportunity presented.

As the son, and grandson of two Navy admirals, when the Vietnamese learned who they had, they tried to get rid of him. They told him to leave the camp, and they would escort him safely across the lines.

John McCain responded by saying "I won't leave without my men." He spent an extra five years as a POW when he didn't have to.

THAT'S what makes him an American hero. Donny Trump isn't fit to lick the cowshit off his shoes.



[Edited 1/11/2017 7:17:22 PM ]

1/11/2017 9:09:12 PM McCain shame shame.  

darthv
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Yes. I did read abt his daddy and his ancestral background. He comes from a long line of military men. There was a PBS show all about it.

It still does not excuse his passing along information he knew or should have known was not accurate.

If Trump wasn't a public figure he might have a case for slander.

I

1/11/2017 9:32:39 PM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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Quote from darthv:
Yes. I did read abt his daddy and his ancestral background. He comes from a long line of military men. There was a PBS show all about it.

It still does not excuse his passing along information he knew or should have known was not accurate.

If Trump wasn't a public figure he might have a case for slander.

I


I bet that PBS documentary was fake. Yeah, McShame comes from a long line of military men, his Daddy handled the cover up for the U.S.S. Liberty.



And then there was McCuck meeting and plotting together with the leadership of ISIS:



http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-john-mccain-meet-with-abu-bakral-baghdadi-the-alleged-head-of-the-islamic-state-isis-isil-daesh/54981775

"B-but he's a war hero!"

1/11/2017 9:47:26 PM McCain shame shame.  

viper1e
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Would that be before, or after his trial for high treason?

1/11/2017 9:52:35 PM McCain shame shame.  

darthv
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The PBS portrayal of his lineage was later debunked.

1/11/2017 9:56:43 PM McCain shame shame.  

viper1e
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Quote from darthv:
The PBS portrayal of his lineage was later debunked.


I don't give a flying f**k if his lineage revealed a bunch of Kentucky farmers.

He wouldn't, and didn't, leave his men behind.

Obviously you have no one in your family tree that ever served, so that statement would be meaningless to you. But those that did, get it.

1/11/2017 10:15:13 PM McCain shame shame.  

thunderpump
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Quote from viper1e:

did he use transcendental meditaion to help him cope in prison?

here is another shame... though I don't know who is to blame.





1/11/2017 10:16:38 PM McCain shame shame.  

viper1e
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Did you?

1/11/2017 10:19:24 PM McCain shame shame.  

darthv
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Quote from viper1e:
I don't give a flying f**k if his lineage revealed a bunch of Kentucky farmers.

He wouldn't, and didn't, leave his men behind.

Obviously you have no one in your family tree that ever served, so that statement would be meaningless to you. But those that did, get it.


Actually you are incorrect. As usual.

My great uncle was the Rear Admiral of the Naval forces during Pearl Harbor. Look him up. John Martin Higgins

And two cousins earned Purple Hearts after serving in the Air Force during the same war.
One died during his service. He was shot down.

My oldest brother served in Viet Nam.

My uncle was a Major.
No wars during his time in the service. But he's a lib. Probably has brain damage.

My father served in the Navy as did my second brother.

My boyfriend served in the Marines during the Vietnam war.

Didn't ask any of them if they left anyone they served with behind.

But that has nothing to do with what game he played on the president to be.

I would thank John McCain for his service, however. And you are correct. Your statements are meaningless to me.

1/11/2017 10:25:56 PM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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Quote from viper1e:
I don't give a flying f**k if his lineage revealed a bunch of Kentucky farmers.

He wouldn't, and didn't, leave his men behind.
------------------------------------------------------

You poor deluded fool.


John McCain ‘Sang Like a Canary’ to the North Vietnamese©
Material Supplied by Colonel Ted Guy
John McCain’s SRO at the Plantation
Dedicated to the Memory of Ted Guy

15 April 2008

Within the first four days of his capture, while in his initial interrogation (26-30 October 1967) at the Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi, and while recovering from his shootdown wounds in the North Vietnamese military hospital (31 October 1967 through mid-December 1967), John McCain provided military information far beyond that which the Code of Conduct – and that which other POWs, while undergoing extreme torture – refused to divulge to the enemy. Colonel Ted Guy, McCain’s Senior Ranking Officer (SRO) while they were both imprisoned at the Plantation prison complex in Hanoi, gathered information from various sources after the POWs were released in March 1973.

This information comes from U.S. intercepts of North Vietnamese broadcasts to American servicemen in South Vietnam around 31 October 1967, as well as from dispatches by North Vietnamese and Cuban correspondents — using material from a Nhan Dan (the central organ, the voice of the Communist Party of Vietnam, then and now) correspondent who interviewed John McCain. This material was published on 9 November 1967. The latter were backed up by the intercepts of these messages by the Message Center of the U.S. Department of Defense National Military Command Center, dated 11 November 1967..

A separate interview of McCain by a Soviet Union correspondent was published by Pravda in Moscow on 8 December 1967. A copy of this interview is presented below. And finally, McCain was interviewed by a French correspondent who published a series of interviews announced on 25 December 1967 and began 27 December 1967. This interview was intercepted by the Message Center of the U.S. National Command Center and disseminated via message on 1 January 1968.

Each of these official records of John McCain’s interviews with foreign correspondents, while held captive in Hanoi is reproduced below. Observe that every one of these interviews contains military information — far, far beyond the limits required by the Code of Conduct. Indeed this information is far beyond what nearly all of the POWs were severely tortured to obtain — the insignificant ‘gray area’ information such as nebulous ‘air pirate’ signed statements. Only those few who were turncoats and anti-war sympathizers among our POWs gave up more information to the enemy than did John McCain.

Indeed, John McCain made good on his promise to his interrogator, ‘the Bug,’ to provide U.S. military information in return for medical attention to his shootdown wounds. See the essay, ‘John McCain as a POW’ for the context of this promise. These interviews are documented below.

http://www.newtotalitarians.com/index_files/McCainSangLikeACanary.htm

Colonel Ted Guy, McCain's commander during his time as a POW was preparing a case of treason against McCain shortly before President Richard M. Nixon signed a blanket pardon for all returning prisoners of war. Thus, McCain escaped all prospects of prosecution.

1/11/2017 10:43:32 PM McCain shame shame.  

thunderpump
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Quote from longbobby:


John McCain ‘Sang Like a Canary’ to the North Vietnamese©
Material Supplied by Colonel Ted Guy
John McCain’s SRO at the Plantation
Dedicated to the Memory of Ted Guy

15 April 2008

I heard that they gave a kind of golden shower to prisoners of the Viet Cong.



1/11/2017 10:47:08 PM McCain shame shame.  
fallguy02379
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Quote from thunderpump:
I heard that they gave a kind of golden shower to prisoners of the Viet Cong.



seems you conservative men are into being pissed on huh?

1/11/2017 10:56:23 PM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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1/12/2017 3:36:10 AM McCain shame shame.  
herc117
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Quote from darthv:
The country rejected his warmongering ideas when he ran for POTUS.

Many others have been captured and held prisoner...but they aren't parading around as war heroes.

And they certainly aren't trying to start a new war.


I've always wondered why getting captured and becoming a POW that gives away military secrets is a war hero! I just don't understand.

1/12/2017 3:43:37 AM McCain shame shame.  
herc117
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Quote from longbobby.

"Colonel Ted Guy, McCain's commander during his time as a POW was preparing a case of treason against McCain shortly before President Richard M. Nixon signed a blanket pardon for all returning prisoners of war. Thus, McCain escaped all prospects of prosecution. "


Now he is a war hero! Funny how shit works. I guess 40 years from now Bowe Bergdahl will be a war hero too!

1/12/2017 11:30:39 AM McCain shame shame.  

darthv
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McCain is a poster boy for term limits.

1/12/2017 11:33:09 AM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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Quote from herc117:
Quote from longbobby.

"Colonel Ted Guy, McCain's commander during his time as a POW was preparing a case of treason against McCain shortly before President Richard M. Nixon signed a blanket pardon for all returning prisoners of war. Thus, McCain escaped all prospects of prosecution. "


Now he is a war hero! Funny how shit works. I guess 40 years from now Bowe Bergdahl will be a war hero too!


I honestly think McCain is head cuck and needs to be deemed an enemy of the state.

He needs to be tortured until he rats out all of the swamp creatures.

I hear it doesn't take much to get a confession out of him.

1/12/2017 11:34:03 AM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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Quote from darthv:
McCain is a poster boy for term limits.


Take back America, let's start with a speedy trial, a rope and ''Traitor McCain!''



1/12/2017 11:41:35 AM McCain shame shame.  

mr_bad_robot
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McCain lived off of his dad's reputation if not for that McCain would had got the boot.

1/12/2017 3:54:07 PM McCain shame shame.  

thunderpump
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Quote from longbobby:


He must have yellow fever.

1/12/2017 4:11:57 PM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
James Clapper called me yesterday to denounce the false and fictitious report that was illegally circulated. Made up, phony facts.Too bad!
6:23 AM - 12 Jan 2017

Someone has to take the fall for #Pissgate.


John McCain, the CIA, CNN, Buzzfeed, the entire country of Britain – everyone needs to go under the bus.

If Clapper doesn’t want to go down for it, he needs to start throwing people under the bus immediately.

Who could have possibly thought it was a good idea to release the Piss Files?


“Mulder, I don’t believe it…” – “It’s true Skully, it’s all true – they pissed all over the place. This is a pissfest so huge it could bring down the entire shadow government and that’s why they’re trying to silence us.”

I mean, who is running this?

If you’re going to produce fake documents, the least you can do is spell words correctly, no?

So what sort of low-level imbeciles are running the intelligence agencies, the media and the government?

Who are these retards?

What the hell is going on?

1/12/2017 4:35:56 PM McCain shame shame.  

reginamc
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The whole thing is disgusting and I hope he sues them into the ground.

1/12/2017 4:43:30 PM McCain shame shame.  

citylights01
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Quote from shawnee_b:
"He wasn't a hero he got caught." The Donald


But I thought conservatives were all for the military and demanded they all be respected for serving. When did that change?



[Edited 1/12/2017 4:43:51 PM ]

1/12/2017 4:51:03 PM McCain shame shame.  

w6o6l6f_1
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Quote from citylights01:
But I thought conservatives were all for the military and demanded they all be respected for serving. When did that change?

It depends on what they are fighting for.

1/12/2017 4:53:33 PM McCain shame shame.  
annamally
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He needs to be kicked to the curb .... What is wrong with Arizona ?

1/12/2017 4:59:18 PM McCain shame shame.  

shawnee_b
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Quote from citylights01:
But I thought conservatives were all for the military and demanded they all be respected for serving. When did that change?


I served my time. So didn't most males in my line.

Respect is earned. Putting out obviously fake news does not demand respect.

I also DO NOT believe the VC were going to let him go just because "they realized who they had."

He got caught. Heros stand their ground and fight.

1/12/2017 5:05:39 PM McCain shame shame.  

citylights01
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Quote from w6o6l6f_1:
It depends on what they are fighting for.


Do they have to be in a certain war, or branch of the military for conservatives to respect them? What are the qualifications?

1/12/2017 5:08:49 PM McCain shame shame.  

citylights01
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Quote from shawnee_b:
I served my time. So didn't most males in my line.

Respect is earned. Putting out obviously fake news does not demand respect.

I also DO NOT believe the VC were going to let him go just because "they realized who they had."

He got caught. Heros stand their ground and fight.


Interesting. I've seen conservatives in this forum say military should get respect just because they served. But look at that, you actually think the way I do when it comes to respect.

So, if they're caught, they don't deserve respect? What else causes you to lose respect for fellow soldiers or veterans?

1/12/2017 5:22:02 PM McCain shame shame.  
michael061
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Good Point City,

John McCain served with honor and distinction. (And nothing like the honor and distinction Susan Rice talked about Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl serving with.)

John McCain deserves our thanks, and our deepest respect for what he went through.

Defining the, "Hero" word, is a little above my pay grade.

I wouldn't argue that any person who risked his life is not a hero.

My Uncle, who lost his leg while in a fire fight with the Nazis, always said that he was not a hero. (All of us little boys knew better, we knew darn well he was a hero.)

But how about my dad? He was never seriously wounded, and none of us actually thought of him as a hero. (Was being shot at, "For the Duration", less heroic than being in a POW camp?)

I thought Oliver North was a hero for signing up for his second tour. (You might do the first tour our without knowing what Vietnam was all about.) I didn't think his actions during the Iran Contra affair were heroic.

We could have a darn good discussion about what constitutes being a hero, if we weren't so angry about politics.

My definition would start with, "Doing something that you are very much afraid to do, out of duty and honor."

The funny thing is that, even after you do this once or twice, you always fear that the next time you might not be strong enough to-- Wouldn't a hero know that he would do it the same way again?

Hero's shouldn't doubt themselves,,SHOULD THEY?

Quote from citylights01:
But I thought conservatives were all for the military and demanded they all be respected for serving. When did that change?


1/12/2017 5:31:22 PM McCain shame shame.  
michael061
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McCain was badly wounded. I guess he could have shot one or two guys, but his orders were to surrender, when he found himself under the conditions he was in.

One or two grunts, is not worth losing a pilot over. McCain followed his orders, and his orders were sound.

The only shame here is that the politicians, were not willing to do whatever needed to be done, to secure the release of our people. We should have rescued our people, and we didn't.

I agree that any release, would have cost plenty. Maybe we could have secured McCain's release, if we gave Jane Fonda the Medal of Honor?

Quote from shawnee_b:
I served my time. So didn't most males in my line.

Respect is earned. Putting out obviously fake news does not demand respect.

I also DO NOT believe the VC were going to let him go just because "they realized who they had."

He got caught. Heros stand their ground and fight.


1/12/2017 5:38:08 PM McCain shame shame.  

shawnee_b
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Quote from citylights01:
Interesting. I've seen conservatives in this forum say military should get respect just because they served. But look at that, you actually think the way I do when it comes to respect.

So, if they're caught, they don't deserve respect? What else causes you to lose respect for fellow soldiers or veterans?


False valor.

Such as Kerry claiming to have served on swift boats yet the swift boat vets demolished his bullshit story.

Bergdahl. Nuff said on that one.

For the most part, I have respect for all vets. It's just a few give a bad name.

1/12/2017 5:39:46 PM McCain shame shame.  

shawnee_b
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Quote from michael061:

One or two grunts, is not worth losing a pilot over.
1/12/2017 5:41:08 PM McCain shame shame.  

trackker
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Quote from shawnee_b:
"He wasn't a hero he got caught." The Donald


yep, a hero does shit to come out winning, not a loser like McCain

1/12/2017 5:46:52 PM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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Sgt. Major John Holland talks about his frustration with McCain


With McCain supporters continually touting his heroism and attacking Democrats that served honorably in Vietnam like John Kerry and Al Gore, the unavoidable embarassment that their standard bearer may have been the biggest American traitor since Benedict Arnold, confidence in Conservative news sources has to disappear, at least with veterans.

A fair comparison to McCain would be Jane Fonda. Both spent time in North Vietnam.

* Both are accused of helping North Vietnam, Fonda by being photographed and McCain by doing many propaganda broadcasts and helping the enemy plan attacks on American soldiers.

* Fonda returned to be reviled and spit on while McCain returned to the Senate, spending years helping North Vietnam keep Americans prisoner and amassing a huge fortune trading on heroism and sacrifice we are now told never happened.

* Of the two, Fonda was the more honest and by far had done the least harm to the United States.



Colonel Ted Guy was preparing criminal charges against John McCain when Nixon took Admiral McCain's little boy under his wing. Where are McCain's 32 propaganda tapes that were made during Vietnam and broadcast over the radio to US troops? (see: Colonel Ted Guy)

Why did McCain accuse American soldiers of war crimes during Vietnam? What did he get in return?

If our news media can go thru a presidential election hiding all of this from the American people, nearly putting someone like this in office, what else are they capable of? What else have they done? What else are they hiding?

Vietnam veterans are requesting that the records of the debriefing of all POWS be made public. Those who were heroes need real recognition and shouldn't have to hide behind a presidential pardon they never needed or wanted.

Those who betrayed their country, some to sit in public office, on corporate boards or to travel around the country basking in glory and pointing fingers at others need to get the homecoming they earned. We spent the last 35 years honoring ALL the POWs while 58,000 dead and another 200,000 plus dying were neglected and abused, denied jobs, denied medical care and hated by their fellow Americans.

None of this would matter if the shadow of Vietnam would die too. It lives on. While some of us are still around, perhaps a moment of justice is in order to help the forgotten and the fallen, wherever their spirits are tonight.

http://salem-news.com/articles/october022009/hanoi_john_10-2-09.php

1/12/2017 5:47:09 PM McCain shame shame.  

shawnee_b
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Quote from trackker:
yep, a hero does shit to come out winning, not a loser like McCain


Yup. Pilot allows himself to be captured and tortured to give out military secrets?

I still cannot fathom Vipers comment the VC were going to let him go. Why? Afraid of their peepee getting smacked or something? POW officers are NOT let go, highest prize for info and leverage one could ever have.

1/12/2017 5:50:50 PM McCain shame shame.  
annamally
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Quote from shawnee_b:
Yup. Pilot allows himself to be captured and tortured to give out military secrets?

I still cannot fathom Vipers comment the VC were going to let him go. Why? Afraid of their peepee getting smacked or something? POW officers are NOT let go, highest prize for info and leverage one could ever have.


Maybe he gave them what they wanted ???? just a thought ........

1/12/2017 5:53:12 PM McCain shame shame.  
cupocheer
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

1/12/2017 5:56:19 PM McCain shame shame.  

shawnee_b
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That's a point Anna.

1/12/2017 7:28:11 PM McCain shame shame.  

darthv
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Quote from shawnee_b:
That's a point Anna.


Of course he did.

1/12/2017 7:30:53 PM McCain shame shame.  

shawnee_b
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Quote from darthv:
Of course he did.


I'm sure he did. I'm sure anyone else in his captivity and torture would have too.

A military man knows that too. Choice is fight and die or spill it all.

1/12/2017 7:38:35 PM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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1/12/2017 8:01:55 PM McCain shame shame.  

darthv
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Quote from longbobby:




1/12/2017 8:12:20 PM McCain shame shame.  
txfeelinfree
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Quote from darthv:
Much more than a rhyme.

What the hell happened to him in that Vietnamese prison?


I would think that if McCain was truly a POW, he would be dead set against war but he instead is always instigating it and the only explanation would be that he wants war so that his financial backers can profit from it. By the way, have you seen the video of the other POW's that despise McCain saying that he wasn't a war hero and most likely collaborated with the enemy?

1/12/2017 8:15:52 PM McCain shame shame.  
txfeelinfree
Tomball, TX
43, joined Jul. 2013


Quote from clarity101:
mccain also gave away security info during his 'imprisonment' in order to get release.
and now he turns over 'fake' documents to take down trump.

he is not my idea of a hero




1/12/2017 8:17:00 PM McCain shame shame.  

trackker
Vancouver, WA
34, joined May. 2014


Quote from txfeelinfree:
I would think that if McCain was truly a POW, he would be dead set against war but he instead is always instigating it and the only explanation would be that he wants war so that his financial backers can profit from it. By the way, have you seen the video of the other POW's that despise McCain saying that he wasn't a war hero and most likely collaborated with the enemy?


McCain got special treatment for a good reason when he was a POW

1/12/2017 8:37:34 PM McCain shame shame.  

reginamc
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1/12/2017 10:05:37 PM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (90,733)
Lufkin, TX
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Here's some of the document that was leaked by 4Chan. These get really insane/funny:



It has some of the crap 61:falcon, muldoon, and others have been pushing since the election. They have been pushing nonsense created by 4chan; but their innate stupidity and hate for Trump has blinded them to the fact they're all being used as cats paws.

1/12/2017 10:16:53 PM McCain shame shame.  
michael061
Over 4,000 Posts! (7,011)
Columbia, SC
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Yes, one American Pilot is worth more than two North Vietnamese grunts.


Quote from shawnee_b:
Say what? One man is worth more than another man?


1/13/2017 11:56:09 AM McCain shame shame.  

longbobby
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This is going to be the end of McCain's career.

The way this should be handled, now that the hoax is officially exposed, would be to have the Committee on Privileges and Elections vote to censure McCain, and then remove him from the Senate. He could also be impeached for conduct unbecoming a Senator for being involved in such an obvious hoax.

1/13/2017 12:52:53 PM McCain shame shame.  

stargazzer
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online now!


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