Damascus Is Almost Done

2/11/2017 5:20:41 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
thunderpump Tacoma, WA 53, joined Dec. 2009 online now!	Now what is to come? Anyone can see unless they are blind that deals and unions are being made that will have horrendous consequences for Israel and the Mid-East. Perhaps some are more discerning than others. But then again The Bible says wisdom is rarer than rubies. And I'm not talkin' about the artificial kind of stone or intelligence. I started my own Topic thread because I was warned not to disseminate this kind of information on another thread. Look at this place it looks almost as bad as the Bronx. Only the minarets are spared as decreed by law. But when God decrees something then man's laws go out the window. I will throw out a question for Louie since he seems to have a religious bent but anyone with logistical or any opinion can saunter forth for conversation Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
2/11/2017 5:48:35 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
thunderpump Tacoma, WA 53, joined Dec. 2009 online now!	Quote from thunderpump: Now what is to come? I got a block sign when I wanted to continue on a trump 3rd world war thread few days ago because I brought up the subject of Damascus being destroyed and playing a major role in what conflicts will catalyst out of it. Some Israel down talker could not handle the truth it seems and also didn't want others to know of the possibility even. Rest assured when Bobby blocked me he set up the scenario that he can't comment himself either and throw his Israel Dis about like a broken record. I will leave that for others on this site. So have at it if you will. I will not block you for that. Pro or con Say what you will or ask questions to boot.
2/11/2017 7:30:12 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
thread_killer Turin, GA 22, joined Sep. 2016	Chillax... Longboobs blocked me, and I hadn't even made fun of his paranoid drivel. On topic: Follow the money. Follow the funding of the muslim brotherhood, and isis. And why. Obama, soros, hilary clinton, and the saud family...
2/11/2017 7:53:33 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
blake6972 Bunker Hill, WV 44, joined Jul. 2013	Russia and Iran play MAJOR parts in the End of Times. Only followed by North Korea and China. Israel will remain.
2/11/2017 8:44:26 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
louie6332 Falkville, AL 74, joined Nov. 2011 online now!	Thunderpump, you say: “There is much unrest in the Middle East, and the war in Syria is capturing the attention of the whole world. However, this particular conflict, even if it expands to other nations, cannot be associated with Armageddon.” You are correct Thunderpump, you have good discernment, the current war in Syria is not part of the End Times prophecy. We are not yet in the End Times. (Obama was using ISIS to overthrow Assad, King of Syria, but Obama’s proxy war in Syria has now failed, although much damage has been done in Syria, Assad still stands.) Biblical prophecies are Jewish prophecies, prophecies concerning the Jews and their nation. The Period of Trial of the Apocalypse, foretold in the Book of Revelation, began about the beginning of the twentieth century, but is very sketchy and oblique till the End Time and rise of the Antichrist. But there are other categories of divine prophecy. There are three principal categories of divine prophecy today: (1) Jewish prophecy, prophecy given by God to the Jews concerning them and their nation--and Biblical prophecy, both Old and New testaments, is Jewish prophecy, just as the history in the Bible is Jewish history; (2) Christian prophecy, which is prophecy given by God to his Gentile Church concerning his Church and its members; and (3) National prophecy, which is prophecy given by God to the just founders and leaders of nations concerning the destiny of their nations (the Vision of George Washington, given by Mary to General George Washington during the revolutionary war concerning the destiny of the New American Nation is an example of this, and the prophecies that God gave to the American Indian nations concerning them and their nations is another example). These three categories of divine prophecy tend to pertain to different nations and regions and times, so for the most complete view of God’s plan for the future, you need all three of these three categories of prophecy. God did not simply speak to the Jews and no others. Since these three principal categories of prophecy generally cover different peoples, different regions, and different periods of time, you need all three categories of divine prophecy to acquire the most complete view of God’s plan for the future. For example, the Jewish and Biblical prophecy falls silent concerning the entire period of the world-wide dispersion of the Jews form 70 AD to the reestablishment of the Jewish nation of Israel in 1948, a period in which the Jewish nation of Israel did not exist. For events foretold of this period, you have to go to Catholic prophecy and national prophecy. Jewish prophecy is very brief and oblique till the End Time and rise of the Antichrist. For this period you need to go to Catholic and national prophecy. For the End Time period, which is the period of the Antichrist, both Catholic and Jewish prophecy becomes very detailed. For the Period of the Millennial Messianic Reign, on the other hand, Catholic prophecy falls silent and you have to go to Jewish prophecy, which becomes very detailed. You need all three. Those who focus on just one of these three categories of prophecy suffer from a kind of tunnel vision of the future. Anyway, the Period of Trial of the Apocalypse, which began about the beginning of the twentieth century, will consist of two great worldwide revolutions separated by a period of world peace lasting thirty to thirty four years. We are in the midst of the first one now. It will climax with the Great Chastisement of God and the Third World War, which will be fought by Russia and her Marxist and Muslim allies from around the world against Israel, the Christian nations of Europe and America, and the Church. It will be accompanied by the greatest persecution of the Church to date, short but very bloody, they will try to kill all Christians. When they have conquered the West and let out a cry of victory, Mary, the Queen of Heaven, sovereign mistress of angels, will, at the command of God, intervene at the head of the Armies of Heaven to crush the head of Satan, the ancient serpent, and restore all things in Christ. There will follow thirty to thirty four years of world peace. The peace will end with the rise of the Antichrist who will wage the second worldwide revolution of the Apocalypse. It will climax with the Great Tribulation and its Fourth World War, which will be waged by the Antichrist, king of a reestablished Babylonian Empire, and a ten nation confederacy allied with him against Israel, the Christian nations of the West, and the Church. There will follow the Reign of Terror of the Antichrist and the greatest and last persecution of the Church. This second revolution will be put down by Jesus Christ who will return at the head of the Armies of Heaven to wage war against his enemies, rescue the beleaguered Jews in Israel who will have converted in mass to Christianity (which will be the cue of Christ to return), and establish his reign upon the throne of David in the city of Jerusalem on mount Zion in the Jewish nation of Israel as King of the kings of the Earth for one thousand years. The destruction of Damascus that is foretold in the Biblical prophecies will occur during this second great worldwide revolution during the End Time, which is still yet to come. The Third World War must come first. Louie
2/11/2017 9:51:24 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
woniota Jacksonville, FL 51, joined Jul. 2014	Looks like any democrat run city in America.
2/12/2017 6:32:42 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
thunderpump Tacoma, WA 53, joined Dec. 2009 online now!	Quote from louie6332: (Obama was using ISIS to overthrow Assad, King of Syria, but Obama’s proxy war in Syria has now failed, although much damage has been done in Syria, Assad still stands.) It will climax with the Great Chastisement of God and the Third World War, which will be fought by Russia and her Marxist and Muslim allies from around the world against Israel, the Christian nations of Europe and America, and the Church. The destruction of Damascus that is foretold in the Biblical prophecies will occur during this second great worldwide revolution during the End Time, which is still yet to come. The Third World War must come first. Louie
2/12/2017 6:48:26 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Quote from thunderpump: I got a block sign when I wanted to continue on a trump 3rd world war thread few days ago because I brought up the subject of Damascus being destroyed and playing a major role in what conflicts will catalyst out of it. Some Israel down talker could not handle the truth it seems and also didn't want others to know of the possibility even. Rest assured when Bobby blocked me he set up the scenario that he can't comment himself either and throw his Israel Dis about like a broken record. I will leave that for others on this site. So have at it if you will. I will not block you for that. Pro or con Say what you will or ask questions to boot. ----------------------------------- Oh, you poor victim.. How many times have I debunked this BS of yours, pump? Every time I post a thread on Isral and/or the ME, here you come with your Bible prophecies BS. Every time I debunk your propaganda, here you come again. Yeah, I gave you a timeout because I asked you not to post your crap and you ignored me. What did you expect?
2/12/2017 6:51:22 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Now what is to come? Anyone can see unless they are blind that deals and unions are being made that will have horrendous consequences for Israel and the Mid-East. Perhaps some are more discerning than others. But then again The Bible says wisdom is rarer than rubies. And I'm not talkin' about the artificial kind of stone or intelligence. [https://j.gifs.com/Bg7lqX.gif I started my own Topic thread because I was warned not to disseminate this kind of information on another thread. Look at this place it looks almost as bad as the Bronx. Only the minarets are spared as decreed by law. But when God decrees something then man's laws go out the https://j.gifs.com/mwVl9R.gif https://j.gifs.com/KOkKyG.gif https://j.gifs.com/987RKx.gif I will throw out a question for Louie since he seems to have a religious bent but anyone with logistical or any opinion can saunter forth for conversation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- What kind of PROOF are you posting? Gif's? How about some CREDIBLE links? Suppose I post gifs of nuclear explosions and then claim they are of Israel being blown up by Trump? Would I be anymore dishonest than you're being?
2/12/2017 7:13:39 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
herc117 Warren, IN 56, joined Dec. 2016 online now!	well there goes Israel.
2/12/2017 7:26:19 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Damascus Syria, Tourist Destinations Image too large for page ... https://s16-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbutworldenoughandtime.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F06%2Fdam-syr.jpg&sp=85d9631473d0d7c51c6d6bc30616cf4e Looks pretty first class to me. Gee, I *wonder* why Damascus Syria doesn't resemble the version of Damascus Syria as shown in the OP?
2/12/2017 8:31:08 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
rambo_was_real Aurora, CO 21, joined Aug. 2014	Shit just got real.
2/12/2017 8:40:54 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Quote from rambo_was_real: Shit just got real. Only if you take pumps Hollywood gifs seriously. Take a look at what Damascus REALLY looks like.
2/12/2017 8:46:12 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
rambo_was_real Aurora, CO 21, joined Aug. 2014	Quote from longbobby: Only if you take pumps Hollywood gifs seriously. Take a look at what Damascus REALLY looks like. I had to look into things myself. So far I've found pics from the same drone flight that probably made the gifs. The Guardian UK claims that is a suburb of Damascus called Jobar, Jomomma......something like that.
2/12/2017 8:52:46 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Quote from rambo_was_real: I had to look into things myself. So far I've found pics from the same drone flight that probably made the gifs. The Guardian UK claims that is a suburb of Damascus called Jobar, Jomomma......something like that. The Guardian is MI5 and MI6's propaganda rm. Much like CNN is the CIA's propaganda arm here in America. 800,000 Syrians returning home. I'm sure Israel is thrilled. No drone attacks here either.
2/12/2017 8:54:02 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
rambo_was_real Aurora, CO 21, joined Aug. 2014	I wonder what this is?
2/12/2017 8:54:55 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Quote from rambo_was_real: I had to look into things myself. So far I've found pics from the same drone flight that probably made the gifs. The Guardian UK claims that is a suburb of Damascus called Jobar, Jomomma......something like that. The Guardian is MI5 and MI6's propaganda rm. Much like CNN is the CIA's propaganda arm here in America. 800,000 Syrians returning home. I'm sure Israel is thrilled. No drone attacks here either. Damascus looks fine to me.
2/12/2017 8:56:59 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Quote from rambo_was_real: I wonder what this is. http://i.imgur.com/Juqv4Ic.jpg ------------------------------------- Aleppo? Raqah?
2/12/2017 8:58:14 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
urealysucklol San Benito, TX 44, joined Jul. 2014	Quote from thunderpump: Now what is to come? Anyone can see unless they are blind that deals and unions are being made that will have horrendous consequences for Israel and the Mid-East. Perhaps some are more discerning than others. But then again The Bible says wisdom is rarer than rubies. And I'm not talkin' about the artificial kind of stone or intelligence. I started my own Topic thread because I was warned not to disseminate this kind of information on another thread. Look at this place it looks almost as bad as the Bronx. Only the minarets are spared as decreed by law. But when God decrees something then man's laws go out the window. I will throw out a question for Louie since he seems to have a religious bent but anyone with logistical or any opinion can saunter forth for conversation ur a dumbass, Damascus won the war against the US, Dumbass ,
2/12/2017 9:01:32 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
rambo_was_real Aurora, CO 21, joined Aug. 2014	Quote from longbobby: 800,000 Syrians returning home. I'm sure Israel is thrilled. An Arab Spring? A Syrian Woman's March? Or A few years old aerial pic of a birthday celebration for world's most powerful Muslim Barack Hussein?
2/12/2017 9:01:57 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
urealysucklol San Benito, TX 44, joined Jul. 2014	I just saw a few hours ago north Korea tested another missile , Trump said I would not happen, umm well it did
2/12/2017 9:03:10 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Trump Adopts Harder Stance Toward J()()-Israel O ye of little faith. Back in November, you Israel-firsters thought Trump’s pro-Israel rhetoric was genuine, rather than a fake-out designed to make sure the inauguration wasn’t thwarted and he got into office which he could then walk back. Well. He’s walking it back. Daily Caller: http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/11/trump-hardens-israel-rhetoric-ahead-of-netanyahu-visit/ President Donald Trump appeared to adopt a harder U.S. line towards Israel in an interview with an Israeli paper just days before Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visits the White House. Trump criticized Israeli settlement building in disputed territory and said he was reconsidering moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. Trump repeatedly pledged to move the embassy to Jerusalem throughout the 2016 presidential campaign, and lambasted former President Barack Obama’s decision to allow a United Nations resolution condemning Israel to pass without veto. Israeli settlements “don’t help the process,” Trump said, adding that he did not think “going forward with these settlements is a good thing for peace.” Regarding the embassy move Trump said it was “not an easy decision” and that the U.S. will “see what happens.” The Trump administration previously issued a Feb. 3 statement lightly condemning Israeli decisions to build more settlements in east Jerusalem saying, “while we don’t believe the existence of settlements is an impediment to peace, the construction of new settlements or the expansion of existing settlements beyond their current borders may not be helpful in achieving that goal.” To be clear, I don’t think Trump is going to be anti-Israel. But he sure as hell isn’t going to be the rabidly pro-Israel President some of you all were worried he would be. He is going to do exactly what he said he was going to do: he is going to make America great again. He will be cool with Israel so long as they do not interfere with that agenda. And apparently at this point, he views the settlements as bordering on interfering with that agenda.
2/12/2017 9:07:08 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Quote from rambo_was_real: An Arab Spring? A Syrian Woman's March? Or A few years old aerial pic of a birthday celebration for world's most powerful Muslim Barack Hussein? -------------------------- No, it's not. 800,000 Syrian Refugees Returning Home To Syria! https://politicalvelcraft.org/2015/11/06/800000-syrian-refugees-returning-home-to-syria/
2/12/2017 9:07:09 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
urealysucklol San Benito, TX 44, joined Jul. 2014	Lol, the Jewish serpents.
2/12/2017 9:10:43 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Quote from urealysucklol: ur a dumbass, Damascus won the war against the US, Dumbass , ------------------------------------ How bright was it to re-post the page stretching OP on the 2nd page of the thread?
2/12/2017 9:13:44 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
urealysucklol San Benito, TX 44, joined Jul. 2014	It was very bright , it hurt my eyes
2/12/2017 9:20:32 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
urealysucklol San Benito, TX 44, joined Jul. 2014	Bring it boy, wat u got,
2/13/2017 11:46:37 AM	Damascus Is Almost Done
urealysucklol San Benito, TX 44, joined Jul. 2014	https://youtu.be/nGk4RWXuwZk
2/13/2017 12:45:43 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
clarity101 Aurora, CO 65, joined Oct. 2008	sorry thunder if you all had no intentions on taking it this far.... just one of my sources of research "Does war with Syria have anything to do with the end times?" Answer: As civil war rages in Syria and other nations ponder potential involvement, some Bible teachers believe we can see biblical end-times prophecy unfolding right before our eyes. The Middle East is a religious-political powder keg and has been for years, but the Syrian Crisis seems to be making the situation that much more explosive. Because of Syria’s proximity to Israel, Egypt’s troubles, Iran’s threats, and the United States’ ultimatums, there is talk of the end times, Armageddon, and World War III. It is true that, with every passing day, we draw closer to the Second Coming of Christ (James 5:8). And the prophecy of Isaiah 17:1 has yet to be fulfilled: “A prophecy against Damascus: ‘See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins.’” Damascus, the capital of Syria, has a longstanding reputation for being the oldest continuously occupied city in the world. It has never been without citizens or totally destroyed. But Isaiah’s prophecy still stands; there is coming a day when Damascus will be nothing but a “heap of ruins.” The current war in Syria could indeed be one of the events leading up to the capital’s destruction. There are other verses in the Bible tethered to Isaiah 17:1, but the idea of a ruinous heap suggests that not one building is left standing in Damascus. The city will no longer be a city. Some students of prophecy believe a nuclear bomb could be the means of fulfilling this prophecy; others suggest the possibility of an earthquake. Regardless of exactly how or when it happens, two things we know for sure: God is sovereign and His Word will stand (Isaiah 40:8). There is much unrest in the Middle East, and the war in Syria is capturing the attention of the whole world. However, this particular conflict, even if it expands to other nations, cannot be associated with Armageddon. That battle occurs near the end of the Tribulation, during the bowl judgments, as the nations of the earth gather to fight against the Lord (Revelation 16:12–16). The war in Syria, if it is indeed part of end-times prophecy, is more likely part of the “birth pains” described in Mark 13:7–8. In 700 BC, Isaiah wrote of the demise of Damascus. Today, 2,700 years later, many believe that we are close to seeing that long-standing prophecy fulfilled. However chaotic the events on the world stage appear, we know that all things are working toward the fulfillment of God’s Word. “The Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever” (1 Thessalonians 4:16–17)—are you ready for His coming? Recommended Resource: Understanding End Times Prophecy by Paul Benware
2/14/2017 1:54:49 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
thunderpump Tacoma, WA 53, joined Dec. 2009 online now!	Quote from herc117: well there goes Israel. Not because of Trump. I believe Trump is more like this: I can't say if Israel will tear Damascus a new a** or not, but somebody's got to do the job. God said so.
2/14/2017 1:59:35 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Quote from thunderpump: ------------------------------------------------- HOW MANY TIMES have I debunked that Damascus is Destroyed prophecy Isaiah 17 BS of yours? The Isaiah 17 Damascus Bible prophecy has been fulfilled www.americanvision.org/9371/isaiah-17-damascus-bible-...Proxy Highlight Sep 12, 2013 ... The Isaiah 17 Damascus Bible prophecy has been fulfilled .... Biblical skeptic Tim Callahan follows the arguments of today's prophecy watchers ... Christians claim that the Bible has hundreds of fulfilled prophecies, and is proof of its divine inspiration. In actuality, these so called fulfilled prophecies failed, were false or weren't prophecies at all. Many of these prophecies are so vague, they can be attributed to different events. It's also a fact that the Bible was written many years after these presumed prophecies and their "fulfillment" took place. It's also fair to mention that nowhere in the Bible will you find countries such as the United States, Russia, China, Korea, Great Britain prophesied. Oh Christians will tell you that they are, if you know how to interpret the Bible. Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. Damascus is still inhabited today with over a million people, and hardly a ruinous heap. http://faithskeptic.50megs.com/prophecies.htm Thunderpump: Iran (Persia) is prophecisied in the Bible to be a bad apple in God's eye. ORLY? Ever hear of a fellow named Cyrus? Guess not, huh? Well, hey ... since you like Isaiah so much ... CYRUS: GOD'S ANOINTED SHEPHERD Nearly 150 years before Cyrus was born, the prophet Isaiah foretold his birth, his name, and the tasks that the Creator God had predetermined for him to accomplish. The Bible records that certain people are foreordained to be born and carry out specific tasks for God during their lifetime and a few of these individuals are even named before their birth. Cyrus the Great was one of these individuals whom God had predestined to play a pivotal roll in his awesome plan for humanity. King Cyrus was an extremely important person, because God destroyed the Babylonian empire through him, and brought a close to a seventy-year punishment of the Jews that God imposed on them for their rebellion against him. Also through King Cyrus, God set into motion his seventy-week prophecy that fixed the year for the Messiah's death and resurrection, and reveals the sequence of events and dates for the Messiah's return which will bring to an end human rule of the earth, and usher in the government of God to rule over the entire earth. Although historians have slightly differing interpretations and views of the historical record concerning the dates of Cyrus' birth and death and his various accomplishments, there is ample historical documentation that Cyrus the Great was indeed a real person whose name is mentioned over 22 times in the Bible and whose tomb in Iran can be visited today. Cyrus the Man Cyrus was the grandson of Astyages, King of the Medes. He was born in the province of Persis, in southwest Iran in 590 BC and died in battle in 530 B.C.. He founded the Archaemenian dynasty and the Persian Empire. He overthrew three great empires: the Medes, Lydians, and Babylonians. He also united most of the ancient Middle East into a single state stretching from India to the Mediterranean Sea, which meant that he possessed the largest empire in the world at that time. Cyrus was a leader of tremendous military ability and high moral and ethical values; he was not inclined to extreme brutality, cruelty, and the perpetual conquest for new territories as were many other conquerors. Cyrus was also extremely tolerant of the customs and the religions of the nations he conquered. The Greeks considered the Persian Empire to be the greatest threat to their own independence, but they highly regarded Cyrus because of his character and ethical rule. Isaiah 45:1-13 "This says the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whom I have seized by the right, to subdue nations before him. Yes, I will open the loins of kings, to open the two-leaved doors before him, and the gates shall not be shut. I will go before you and make hills level; I will tear apart the bronze doors and cut the iron bars in two. And I will give you the treasures of darkness, even treasures in secret places, that you may know that I am the Lord who calls you by your name, I the God of Israel" (vs.1-3 Para.). In verses 1-3, we see that Cyrus is called the Lord's anointed (Heb. mashiyach [maw-shee'-akh]). which denotes a person specifically chosen and set apart for a specific task. Notice also that God promised to intervene and help Cyrus conquer many nations (i.e., make hills level). The opening of the two-leaved doors, the tearing apart of the bronze doors, and the cutting of the iron bars seem to picture God's intervention to open the hundred copper-alloy gates of Babylon to King Cyrus and his army. Imagine Cyrus' amazement and sober contemplation as he became aware of Isaiah's prophecy and realized that almost 150 years before his birth he had been named and ordained by the God of the Israelites to become a mighty conquering king and perform a task for this God whom he neither knew nor worshiped. [Edited 2/14/2017 2:00:45 PM ]
2/14/2017 2:03:54 PM	Damascus Is Almost Done
longbobby Lufkin, TX 56, joined Aug. 2010	Tell you what, pump? You keep on posting your J()()ish made gifs ... in return, I'll post ALL the info on the internet proving your Israel-first "prophecy" has either been fulfilled and/or is hogwash. Sound fair?

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