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2/28/2017 5:07:19 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

ludlowlowell
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One way to stop illegal immigration, or to severely cut down on it, is to fine people who employ them 100% of whatever they pay them. A lot more cost effective than a wall, no?




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2/28/2017 5:11:26 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

catlover418
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Fort Worth, TX
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
One way to stop illegal immigration, or to severely cut down on it, is to fine people who employ them 100% of whatever they pay them. A lot more cost effective than a wall, no?

Good idea.

2/28/2017 5:29:22 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

bistia
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,097)
Roseville, CA
50, joined Jul. 2009


Quote from ludlowlowell:
One way to stop illegal immigration, or to severely cut down on it, is to fine people who employ them 100% of whatever they pay them. A lot more cost effective than a wall, no?


Thank you....enforce the laws we already have...we don't need to spend billions for a stupid wall that will not work...

2/28/2017 5:40:31 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

rocky_dennis
Over 2,000 Posts (3,112)
Mechanicsburg, PA
33, joined Nov. 2013


Who employ them? Government, Corporations and small business do. It hasn't mattered what type of job sites I've been on, all the above have employed them and continue too. I've seen the Unions go as far, as have them do the shit work, then call the INS to the sites, when they were done using them. Yes the moral fabric of America, is to make money. Nothing else, enforcement of fines by who lol?

2/28/2017 5:42:15 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

maniacmassager
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Lawrence, MA
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I prefer the shoot to kill method at the borders.

2/28/2017 5:47:53 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

progrocknic
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Mount Arlington, NJ
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
One way to stop illegal immigration, or to severely cut down on it, is to fine people who employ them 100% of whatever they pay them. A lot more cost effective than a wall, no?


Hiring undocumented workers is a felony. They need to go to jail.

2/28/2017 5:49:47 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

catlover418
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Fort Worth, TX
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Quote from progrocknic:
Hiring undocumented workers is a felony. They need to go to jail.


It would be nice if this was enforced.

2/28/2017 6:11:36 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

progrocknic
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Mount Arlington, NJ
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Quote from catlover418:
It would be nice if this was enforced.


Unfortunately that will never happen.

2/28/2017 6:21:24 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

viper1e
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Jeannette, PA
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
One way to stop illegal immigration, or to severely cut down on it, is to fine people who employ them 100% of whatever they pay them. A lot more cost effective than a wall, no?


Does that go only for the brown people, or are you including the snowbacks too?

2/28/2017 6:30:19 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

nuffan
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Quote from viper1e:
Does that go only for the brown people, or are you including the snowbacks too?



It applies to EVERYONE regardless of their skin color you TWIT...


Why are you so convinced it has something to do with BROWN PEOPLE?


It does not...that is a fallacy you have concocted in your HEAD!!!


Race has not been a factor into immigration since the early 1930's



[Edited 2/28/2017 6:31:25 AM ]

2/28/2017 6:37:07 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

amadaea
Murfreesboro, TN
31, joined Apr. 2016


Two options.
Either make it easier to obtain papers for seasonal workers or stop giving citizenship automatically to children who happened to be born to parents who are on this soil illegally. That would require a constitutional amendment, unfortunately.
And, of course, enforcement of the current laws about hiring illegals, but practice shows it doesn't quite work.



[Edited 2/28/2017 6:38:45 AM ]

2/28/2017 6:49:33 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

winkwink2u
Dacula, GA
51, joined Jun. 2015


Illegal immigration will still happen if we don't have work for them, they will just steal and Rob people.. we need the Border blocked by a wall or fence with border patrol monitoring high traffic areas. we can use drones and electronics But we need a barrier of some sort..

2/28/2017 6:51:45 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

testsignup
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (10,270)
Springfield, VA
63, joined Sep. 2009


Quote from ludlowlowell:
One way to stop illegal immigration, or to severely cut down on it, is to fine people who employ them 100% of whatever they pay them. A lot more cost effective than a wall, no?


Absolutely.

Something I've learned, from being a service tech on machines and an historian for most of my life, is that for anything to happen or to be prevented, there has to be a MECHANISM. In the case of laws, if you just pass a law that something isn't allowed, nothing will actually change. You have to also create mechanisms to enforce the law.

It's similar in this way, to the modern day arguments about all the imagined/assumed illegal voting. If the mechanism you set up to support the law against it is costly or difficult, you place a large burden on innocent American citizens. If you decide that the Federal government should pay all the costs of making sure that all innocents are unharmed (whether the innocents are the workers/voters or the employers/political parties), you run up against the people who are strictly opposed to increasing the size and cost of government.

And then of course, we have the biggest problem: a LOT of people don't think things through enough to realize there does have to BE a mechanism and a cost to enforcing the laws.

by the way, I would myself vote, that the punishment for breaking laws against making profits illegally in any way, be the forfeiture of at least 120% of whatever can be calculated. Otherwise, the lawbreakers have proven again and again, that they will simply calculate the cost of getting caught (taking or giving bribes, hiring illegals, skipping regulations for safety and cleanliness etc) into the cost of doing business.

It would also be a good idea to hold the head of the business criminally liable for the actions of his executives. And finally, require that the payment of all fines, come out of the PERSONAL income of the executives, and not out of the BUSINESS profits.

2/28/2017 6:52:39 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

viper1e
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Jeannette, PA
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Quote from nuffan:
It applies to EVERYONE regardless of their skin color you TWIT...


Why are you so convinced it has something to do with BROWN PEOPLE?
It does not...that is a fallacy you have concocted in your HEAD!!!
Race has not been a factor into immigration since the early 1930's


So many members of the Russian Mafia have been deported by Donny again?

Or the Italian Mafia for that matter.

Quote from winkwink2u:
Illegal immigration will still happen if we don't have work for them, they will just steal and Rob people.. we need the Border blocked by a wall or fence with border patrol monitoring high traffic areas. we can use drones and electronics But we need a barrier of some sort..


Yeah, because that whole wall thing worked SO well in Berlin.



[Edited 2/28/2017 6:53:46 AM ]

2/28/2017 6:58:11 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

progrocknic
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Mount Arlington, NJ
32, joined Dec. 2012


Quote from winkwink2u:
Illegal immigration will still happen if we don't have work for them, they will just steal and Rob people.. we need the Border blocked by a wall or fence with border patrol monitoring high traffic areas. we can use drones and electronics But we need a barrier of some sort..


What makes you think a family who is coming here illegally to escape the lack of opportunity and lack of safety is willing to steal and rob from people? If you were thinking about moving to a place where there was a better job, and the job fell through, would you still move and resort to stealing from people since your job opportunity went away? No? So why would they?

2/28/2017 7:09:43 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
condor_0000
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Tampa, FL
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Or we could just stop embracing a gangster-capitalist world of virtual slavery where 90% of the world's people are so impoverished that they are forced to try to escape the plantations and head to a country that f**king hates them and calls them "illegals" in the effort to just survive.

Funny how none of you capitalist f**ks, conservatives nor liberals, have offered up that easy idea. No, no! You all still want those people to be the impoverished abject slaves of the world whose cheap labor creates vast profits for American capitalists, but you just want "mechanisms" to keep all those slaves on the plantations.

2/28/2017 7:14:56 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

winkwink2u
Dacula, GA
51, joined Jun. 2015


Quote from progrocknic:
What makes you think a family who is coming here illegally to escape the lack of opportunity and lack of safety is willing to steal and rob from people? If you were thinking about moving to a place where there was a better job, and the job fell through, would you still move and resort to stealing from people since your job opportunity went away? No? So why would they?


Don't go through life with your head up your AZZ.. Yes, they do Rob and steal for money and food now if there is no work.. Women prostitute as well.. Mexicans have nothing to lose after finally making to America..(I work with many that first came here illegally and they tell stories of what they did/do to survive).

Mexico needs to clean up its act.. Having a Country so wealthy right beside it has caused illegal immigration. America is beautiful and alive, thriving.. Our government needs to FORCE Mexico to help it's people. Clean up the drug cartel and give them GRANTS/LOANS to bring the standard of living up... Mexico has several different mega tourist areas and can build off that money... The CARTEL must be assassinated quickly

2/28/2017 7:15:45 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

nuffan
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Quote from viper1e:


So many members of the Russian Mafia have been deported by Donny again?

Or the Italian Mafia for that matter.




We have some large amount of Russian illegals in this country or Italian illegals?


They go after ILLEGAL immigrants...

if you are here illegally and BROWN your a** gets deported...if you are here illegally and WHITE your a** gets deported...


Try as you might to make it something it is not...ILLEGAL is not a RACE OR NATIONALITY!!


Go be a f**king VICTIM on your own time...

2/28/2017 7:19:48 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

progrocknic
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Mount Arlington, NJ
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Quote from winkwink2u:
Don't go through life with your head up your AZZ.. Yes, they do Rob and steal for money and food now if there is no work.. Women prostitute as well.. Mexicans have nothing to lose after finally making to America..(I work with many that first came here illegally and they tell stories of what they did/do to survive).


I don't have my head up my ass. I'm just trying to think logically about the situation instead of using emotionally charged arguments. I can't see anyone wanting to come here if there is no job and no place to live. That's a far better solution than a wall.

Mexico needs to clean up its act.. Having a Country so wealthy right beside it has caused illegal immigration. America is beautiful and alive, thriving.. Our government needs to FORCE Mexico to help it's people. Clean up the drug cartel and give them GRANTS/LOANS to bring the standard of living up... Mexico has several different mega tourist areas and can build off that money... The CARTEL must be assassinated quickly


As long as we keep drugs illegal, the cartels will rule Mexico. We have a high demand for illegal drugs, and they are the perfect supplier. If that doesn't change, then Mexico doesn't change. You can't change the demand for illegal drugs, but you can change the legality. If drugs are legal, cartels get no profit. It already worked with marijuana, now we have to do it with the other illegal drugs.

2/28/2017 7:23:44 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
condor_0000
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Quote from progrocknic:
As long as we keep drugs illegal, the cartels will rule Mexico. We have a high demand for illegal drugs, and they are the perfect supplier. If that doesn't change, then Mexico doesn't change. You can't change the demand for illegal drugs, but you can change the legality. If drugs are legal, cartels get no profit. It already worked with marijuana, now we have to do it with the other illegal drugs.


Pablo Escobar’s Son Reveals His Dad “Worked for the CIA Selling Cocaine” — Media Silent
Claire Bernish
February 17, 2017
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/escobar-son-cia-cocaine/#3BYsH5h3vf1Zj7sf.99

uan Pablo Escobar Henao, son of notorious Medellín cartel drug kingpin, Pablo Escobar, now says his father “worked for the CIA.”

In a new book, “Pablo Escobar In Fraganti,” Escobar, who lives under the pseudonym, Juan Sebastián Marroquín, explains his “father worked for the CIA selling cocaine to finance the fight against Communism in Central America.”

“The drug business is very different than what we dreamed,” he continues. “What the CIA was doing was buying the controls to get the drug into their country and getting a wonderful deal.”

“He did not make the money alone,” Marroquín elaborated in an interview, “but with US agencies that allowed him access to this money. He had direct relations with the CIA.”

Notably, Marroquín added, “the person who sold the most drugs to the CIA was Pablo Escobar.”

Where his first book primarily covered Escobar, the man as a father, Marroquín’s second — which has just been released in Argentina — delves into the kingpin’s “international ties of corruption in which my father had an active participation, among them with the American CIA,” he said in a recent interview.

Those government associates “were practically his partners,” which allowed Escobar to defy the law, and gave him nearly the same power as a government.

Predictably, this information is conveniently absent from media headlines in America.

If the CIA trafficking cocaine into the United States sounds like some tin foil conspiracy theory, think again. Their alleged role in the drug trade was exposed in 1996 in an explosive investigative series “Dark Alliance” by Gary Webb for the San Jose Mercury News. The investigation, headed up by Webb revealed ties between the CIA, Nicaraguan contras and the crack cocaine trade ravaging African-American communities.

2/28/2017 7:25:46 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

sureshot40
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,643)
Drumright, OK
47, joined Apr. 2011


Employers of illegal immigrants should be jailed. Start locking them up and taking their money and illegal immigrations would quickly fall. In Rogers Arkansas is a Tyson chicken plant and a Spanish radio station that will announce when ICE is showing up at the plant.

2/28/2017 7:53:59 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

viper1e
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Jeannette, PA
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Quote from nuffan:
We have some large amount of Russian illegals in this country or Italian illegals?
They go after ILLEGAL immigrants...
if you are here illegally and BROWN your a** gets deported...if you are here illegally and WHITE your a** gets deported...
Try as you might to make it something it is not...ILLEGAL is not a RACE OR NATIONALITY!!
Go be a f**king VICTIM on your own time...


So you admit there wasn't a SINGLE eastern eurioean in that group of 700 that got put on a plane out?

Good for you.

And no, the Russian Mafia members did not come over legally. They came in through Canada.

Bunch of snowbacks.

2/28/2017 8:03:59 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

nuffan
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Quote from viper1e:
So you admit there wasn't a SINGLE eastern eurioean in that group of 700 that got put on a plane out?

Good for you.

And no, the Russian Mafia members did not come over legally. They came in through Canada.

Bunch of snowbacks.



Look shit for brains...

you are creating your own narrative...

What part of ILLEGAL your a** gets deported flies right over your head...

If they are here from RUSSIA illegally and white as SNOW...DEPORT THEIR ASSES TOO...

I made no such admission to anything...you pulled that straight from your narrow ass...


YOU are the reason RACISM is still such a problem...

You divide everything into race....so you can apply victim status to the ones you wish to advocate for...

2/28/2017 8:20:59 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

mr_bad_robot
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Cincinnati, OH
42, joined Jul. 2014


It's not always intentional. Lot's of illegals are hired and the employer has no idea they are illegal. These workers show up with SS cards drivers licenses or state ID cards complete the forms and nobody's the wiser.

The SSA rarely conducts audits and if the SS number does not match in their system the collected funds automatically dump into a different account and not until that account starts to exceed a certain limit will the SSA look into it. Depending on the political climate there may never be an audit.

The E-Verify Program should be mandatory across all States. That would stop all of the accidental hiring of illegals and greatly reduce the intentional hiring.

The next thing is to challenge the Supreme Court's ruling on what determines citizenship. Stop these anchor babies from automatically becoming citizens.

2/28/2017 8:26:40 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
4uijack
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New Port Richey, FL
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Quote from bistia:
Thank you....enforce the laws we already have...we don't need to spend billions for a stupid wall that will not work...


Right! I'm sure all those honest criminals will be lining up for their walking papers!!!

2/28/2017 8:28:12 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

viper1e
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Jeannette, PA
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I just go by what I see on the evening news.

And Malaria should be on a boat back, but she's not, since she has anchor baby Barron.

2/28/2017 8:29:41 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
4uijack
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New Port Richey, FL
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Quote from progrocknic:
As long as we keep drugs illegal, the cartels will rule Mexico. We have a high demand for illegal drugs, and they are the perfect supplier. If that doesn't change, then Mexico doesn't change. You can't change the demand for illegal drugs, but you can change the legality. If drugs are legal, cartels get no profit. It already worked with marijuana, now we have to do it with the other illegal drugs.


Take another toke, stupid! Yeah, let's all just get f**ked up on dope and be happy!

You're a real smart mutha f**ka!!!

2/28/2017 8:32:08 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
4uijack
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New Port Richey, FL
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Quote from condor_0000:
Or we could just stop embracing a gangster-capitalist world of virtual slavery where 90% of the world's people are so impoverished that they are forced to try to escape the plantations and head to a country that f**king hates them and calls them "illegals" in the effort to just survive.

Funny how none of you capitalist f**ks, conservatives nor liberals, have offered up that easy idea. No, no! You all still want those people to be the impoverished abject slaves of the world whose cheap labor creates vast profits for American capitalists, but you just want "mechanisms" to keep all those slaves on the plantations.


Seems you got a problem with this country. Why don't you just pack your bags and get the f**k outta here, huh?

2/28/2017 8:34:56 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

progrocknic
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Mount Arlington, NJ
32, joined Dec. 2012


Quote from 4uijack:
Take another toke, stupid! Yeah, let's all just get f**ked up on dope and be happy!

You're a real smart mutha f**ka!!!


So you would do drugs just because they are legal? Or are you suggesting being illegal means no one will do drugs, because I don't know if you've noticed, but heroin has become quite popular despite it being illegal.

2/28/2017 8:46:27 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
drwookie
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Reading, PA
63, joined May. 2013


Quote from ludlowlowell:
One way to stop illegal immigration, or to severely cut down on it, is to fine people who employ them 100% of whatever they pay them. A lot more cost effective than a wall, no?


Wow, the dunce has learned something new... after I've be n saying forever!

But, fining them the amount they pay illegal aliens is still allowing them to carry on and find more illegal ways to hide the illegals.

When someone is arrested for selling a few joints can confiscate everything you own assuming it was all paid for proceeds from illegal activity. Pass a law that allows an illegal employer the same benefit and jail time. If they know they will risk everything for even hiring one illegal.

2/28/2017 11:18:34 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
amusicluvr
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Salem, OR
64, joined Nov. 2013


Another way is to repeal PL 110-457, appoint more immigration judges, and make it a major felony to hire an illegal. Rather than mere fines, give the hirers: 10 years in prison...for each illegal they have hired, with no early out possible. Also rescind the hirer's voting rights-for life-and usurp all of their bank / other accounts, and all of their real estate, and vehicles. Prohibit the hirers from ever holding public office, or contributing to the campaigns of wannabe office holders. Upon parole, force the hirers to work as a domestic servant in the jails which hold illegals prior to deportation.



[Edited 2/28/2017 11:19:00 AM ]

2/28/2017 12:57:08 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

hogaseman
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Benátky nad Jizerou
Czech Republic
65, joined Jun. 2014


Make them learn English

2/28/2017 1:24:33 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

scarredandtatto
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Oral, SD
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Quote from ludlowlowell:
One way to stop illegal immigration, or to severely cut down on it, is to fine people who employ them 100% of whatever they pay them. A lot more cost effective than a wall, no?



ehhhhhh, they already do.


Try again.


Quote from catlover418:
Good idea.









2/28/2017 1:26:27 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

scarredandtatto
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Oral, SD
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Quote from hogaseman:
Make them learn English



The OFFICIAL language of the US?

2/28/2017 1:29:01 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
sdgncalix3
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (50,202)
Palm Bay, FL
43, joined Dec. 2012


We could just shoot them in the face?

Who is going to do your yard work if you can't pick up guys at the Home Depot?

2/28/2017 1:32:28 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

louie6332
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,314)
Falkville, AL
74, joined Nov. 2011


Amadaea, you say: “Either make it easier to obtain papers for seasonal workers or stop giving citizenship automatically to children who happened to be born to parents who are on this soil illegally. THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, UNFORTUNATELY.”

No, the 14th amendment was never intended to give citizenship to aliens, and that was explicitly stated by its authors. But the Federal court, after first ruing that it didn’t, came back later and said that it did. So it became law due to a false interpretation of the amendment. So all it would take is another interpretation to set it back right. The correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment is that an illegal alien mother is subject to the jurisdiction of her native country, as is her baby.

Australia rescinded birthright citizenship in 2007, as did New Zealand in 2006, Ireland in 2005, France in 1993, and the United Kingdom in 1983. This leaves the United States and Canada as the only remaining industrialized nations to grant automatic citizenship to every person born within the borders of the country, irrespective of their parents' nationality or immigration status.

American citizens must be wary of elected politicians voting to illegally extend our generous social benefits to illegal aliens and other criminals.

See the link: http://www.cairco.org/issues/anchor-babies

Louie

2/28/2017 1:56:21 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

viper1e
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Jeannette, PA
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Quote from louie6332:
Amadaea, you say: “Either make it easier to obtain papers for seasonal workers or stop giving citizenship automatically to children who happened to be born to parents who are on this soil illegally. THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, UNFORTUNATELY.”

No, the 14th amendment was never intended to give citizenship to aliens, and that was explicitly stated by its authors. But the Federal court, after first ruing that it didn’t, came back later and said that it did. So it became law due to a false interpretation of the amendment. So all it would take is another interpretation to set it back right. The correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment is that an illegal alien mother is subject to the jurisdiction of her native country, as is her baby.

Australia rescinded birthright citizenship in 2007, as did New Zealand in 2006, Ireland in 2005, France in 1993, and the United Kingdom in 1983. This leaves the United States and Canada as the only remaining industrialized nations to grant automatic citizenship to every person born within the borders of the country, irrespective of their parents' nationality or immigration status.

American citizens must be wary of elected politicians voting to illegally extend our generous social benefits to illegal aliens and other criminals.

See the link: http://www.fairy.pixie.dust.bullshit.com

Louie


Were you dropped on your on your head as a child?

Other than the UK, how many of those named countries were slave owners? Dork

The 14th was written to ensure that the freed slaves and their children would be recognized as US citizens. A repeal will never happen. It would require a Constitutional Convention, and the last one was over 100 years ago.

14th Amendment Constitution of United States of America
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Your med dosage definitely needs to be increased.



[Edited 2/28/2017 1:58:39 PM ]

2/28/2017 1:58:14 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
61falcon
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (40,468)
New Hope, PA
76, joined Feb. 2008


Most restaurants hire illegals, as do most construction sites as do most lawn and landscaping business and building cleaning crews.Pick any job where there is hard physical work, and you will find a good many of the workforce are illegals,and if they get rid of them, then those jobs will mostly remain unfilled.Americans do not like hard physical work out in the elements,especially ones that don't pay much.

2/28/2017 2:10:44 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

caressmybreasts
Gresham, OR
47, joined Dec. 2016


keep all illegalls out you hire an illegal you should go to jail and forfit your business and home

2/28/2017 2:20:06 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

nuffan
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Kennesaw, GA
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Quote from louie6332:
Amadaea, you say: “Either make it easier to obtain papers for seasonal workers or stop giving citizenship automatically to children who happened to be born to parents who are on this soil illegally. THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, UNFORTUNATELY.”

No, the 14th amendment was never intended to give citizenship to aliens, and that was explicitly stated by its authors. But the Federal court, after first ruing that it didn’t, came back later and said that it did. So it became law due to a false interpretation of the amendment. So all it would take is another interpretation to set it back right. The correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment is that an illegal alien mother is subject to the jurisdiction of her native country, as is her baby.

Australia rescinded birthright citizenship in 2007, as did New Zealand in 2006, Ireland in 2005, France in 1993, and the United Kingdom in 1983. This leaves the United States and Canada as the only remaining industrialized nations to grant automatic citizenship to every person born within the borders of the country, irrespective of their parents' nationality or immigration status.

American citizens must be wary of elected politicians voting to illegally extend our generous social benefits to illegal aliens and other criminals.

See the link: http://www.cairco.org/issues/anchor-babies

Louie



While I would agree it was not the intention of the 14th amendment to create what we see today as anchor babies...

It was never interpreted WRONG....

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States" it is very clearly stated in the first sentence...

There are no carve outs mentioned...

ALL PERSONS BORN...

would include a child born in the United States even if their parents were here illegally...

so it was not misinterpreted...

But like every decision from the SCOTUS you do not understand because you do not care to realize all the facts when you disagree you scream legislating from the bench, changing the meaning...and create a narrative that allows you to justify some really f**ked up positions...lol

They did not change the meaning...the meaning was in plain English...ALL PERSONS BORN...

That means all those children born here while their parents were here illegally...which has gone on for over 50+ years...are US Citizens according to the constitution...


We get it...you do not like it...it pisses you off...

but you still do not get to just create your own narrative so you can be right and the courts are wrong....lol

2/28/2017 2:24:03 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Deport the parents who are illegal...

Let the parents either leave the children in the custody of county family services...or take them with them back to their country...

Legally they could leave the children here...

But the people we are talking about are not going to just leave a 5 year old child in a country deporting them...

In fact if they are willing to leave a 5 year old behind....then maybe it is a good thing they did...



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2/28/2017 2:33:17 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Quote from viper1e:
Were you dropped on your on your head as a child?

Other than the UK, how many of those named countries were slave owners? Dork

The 14th was written to ensure that the freed slaves and their children would be recognized as US citizens. A repeal will never happen. It would require a Constitutional Convention, and the last one was over 100 years ago.

14th Amendment Constitution of United States of America
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Your med dosage definitely needs to be increased.


Calm down, you are wrong as well.

No Constitutional Convention is required for AMENDMENTS. It is ALLOWED, for the states to call one, but Congress initiates most Amendments.

2/28/2017 2:35:28 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Quote from viper1e:
Yeah, because that whole wall thing worked SO well in Berlin.




Obama deported more illegal immigrants than any president in history...simply the truth...

some 3 million deportations...

Mostly due to ICE and the enforcement methodologies developed under George W Bush after the 9/11 attacks...




BTW where was your outrage for Obama missing these Russian Mafia you speak of?

2/28/2017 2:39:08 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Quote from ludlowlowell:
One way to stop illegal immigration, or to severely cut down on it, is to fine people who employ them 100% of whatever they pay them. A lot more cost effective than a wall, no?


Prison term is more effective, and if it happens twice, closure.

2/28/2017 2:41:30 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

scarredandtatto
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Oooooooooooooooo You got it all figured out, don't you? What about the illegal that buys a SS number and birth certificate and presents them to a landscaper or a farmer to pick fruit? The employer has no idea and the illegal IS STILL ILLEGAL!





One way to stop illegal immigration is to fill the nearly 2,000 border patrol agent positions along the border.


YES! That's a real number. PLEASE don't take my word for it! Google is your friend.



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2/28/2017 2:41:30 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Quote from nuffan:
Obama deported more illegal immigrants than any president in history...simply the truth...

some 3 million deportations...

Mostly due to ICE and the enforcement methodologies developed under George W Bush after the 9/11 attacks...




BTW where was your outrage for Obama missing these Russian Mafia you speak of?


Deportations were also considered merely being caught at the border during Obama's watch. Before then that wasn't counted as such.

2/28/2017 2:42:42 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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The Berlin Wall was constructed for communism for a completely different reasons.
To keep people in.

https://www.rt.com/news/201255-berlin-wall-anniversary-25/

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Quote from testsignup:
Calm down, you are wrong as well.

No Constitutional Convention is required for AMENDMENTS. It is ALLOWED, for the states to call one, but Congress initiates most Amendments.



ROFLMAO

viper1e has no understanding of basic civics...as he proves over and over...


For the Federal Government to Amend the constitution...

2/3rds of the house have to vote for the amendment...

2/3rds of the senate have to vote for the amendment...

then 3/4 of the states have to ratify it...

only if the states are initiating an amendment to the constitution would it require a constitutional convention...

They states can individually ratify they do not have to have a constitutional convention to ratify an amendment passed by the federal legislative branch...

2/28/2017 2:50:15 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Quote from nuffan:

ALL PERSONS BORN...

would include a child born in the United States even if their parents were here illegally...


Or even visiting. One of the most famous examples is this guy.



Born in San Francisco when both parents were part of a visiting Chinese theater group.



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Quote from w6o6l6f_1:
The Berlin Wall was constructed for communism for a completely different reasons.
To keep people in.

https://www.rt.com/news/201255-berlin-wall-anniversary-25/



A wall is a wall...lol

and from a southern border wall perspective...we are trying to keep people in....IN MEXICO....lmao


The wall will do little to change illegal immigration...


Crying over cost is becoming a comical point...who cares we never pay the money back that we over spend every year...we just sit back and watch interest go out the window...

almost 300 billion in 2015...with estimates of 808 billion in interest alone by 2025...

Our interest alone is going to be a trillion dollars annually inside the next 10 years...lol

2/28/2017 2:51:26 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Quote from nycman530:
Prison term is more effective, and if it happens twice, closure.


If corporations are people, then maybe we can put them in jail for committing a felony.

2/28/2017 2:51:31 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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OH! I like Jackie Chan!

2/28/2017 3:00:04 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

viper1e
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Dude, that's Bruce Lee.

2/28/2017 3:04:00 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

scarredandtatto
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Are you sure?

2/28/2017 3:09:36 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Yes. I did post the picture after all.





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I'm pulling your chain.

One of my favorite movies of all times is The Crow. That sucks so bad that his son was killed.

2/28/2017 7:17:24 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  
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The Magic Green Hat...

Visiting in South Western USA, I needed to go to the emergency room. Not wanting to sit there for 4 hours, I put on my MAGIC GREEN HAT.

When I went into the E.R., I noticed that 3/4 of the people got up and left.

I guess they decided that they weren't that sick after all.

It cut at least 3 hours off my waiting time.


It also works at Dept. of Motor Vehicles. It saved me 5 hours.

At the Laundromat, three minutes after entering, I had my choice of any machine, most still running.

It might also cut your wait time at the grocery store.

But...don't try it at McDonald's...

The whole crew ran out the back door and I never did get my order!



2/28/2017 11:54:23 PM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Yes many REPUBLICANS hire illegal people and pay them little... take them to jail

3/1/2017 5:11:08 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

amadaea
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Well, Louie,
Amendment or straightening up of the fed court ruling... something has to be done, done soon and quickly.
They multiply like rabbits.
Average American family has 3 kids running around at most (well, statistics say 2.5) when illegals manage to pop out 6 within 10 years period.

3/1/2017 5:31:39 AM One Way to Stop Illegal Immigration  

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Quote from marcas_d_pasion:
Yes many REPUBLICANS hire illegal people and pay them little... take them to jail



So do many democrats...take them also



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