Select your best hookup:
Local
Gay
Asian
Latin
East Europe

adult listcrawler

We routinely eliminate inactive blogs and these which are no longer relevant to a provided list. single men in louisiana The views expressed in the contents above are those of our customers and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. A fantastic dating web site with a massive assortment of paid/free of charge characteristics and solutions. getting laid in iceland PoF is no cost and so is complete of timewasters and losers.

megapersonls

I also know on line guys who are in prison who really like NOT transformed their lives who enjoy on ladies so they have someone on the dating to provide funds, female inmates, and a connection to the outside planet. craigslist lagrange indiana Out of all the guys who responded, many with kind compliments and flirty messages, Allen was the only a single who responded with a query. Tell him I miss him, we talk for a bit, video call or have other zoom dates, then disappear on him once more. onlyfans piracy Some had been folks that I d met by way of the broader entrepreneurial communities I m a aspect of, like South Park Commons, she says.

Home  Sign In  Search  Date Ideas  Join  Forums  Singles Groups  - 100% FREE Online Dating, Join Now!


3/7/2017 9:53:36 AM What would. JESUS do?  

stanleyzee
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (57,506)
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012




Z




Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!

DateHookup.dating - 100% Free Personals


3/7/2017 9:54:20 AM What would. JESUS do?  
queennawty
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (39,610)
Middlesex
United Kingdom
45, joined Oct. 2015




3/7/2017 9:55:03 AM What would. JESUS do?  
burt_hurt
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,424)
Beverly Hills, CA
37, joined Jan. 2017


In relation to what OP?

3/7/2017 9:55:09 AM What would. JESUS do?  
ingloriusbastrd
Over 1,000 Posts (1,509)
White City, OR
43, joined Oct. 2016




3/7/2017 9:57:27 AM What would. JESUS do?  

stanleyzee
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (57,506)
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012


Quote from queennawty:


LOVE y'all.but MWAAH and me GOTTA do productivity for a FEW

ENJOY the Journey

Z

3/7/2017 9:58:28 AM What would. JESUS do?  
burt_hurt
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,424)
Beverly Hills, CA
37, joined Jan. 2017


Before you go Zee...what is the situation you are asking what Jesus would do about it?

3/7/2017 9:59:01 AM What would. JESUS do?  
queennawty
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (39,610)
Middlesex
United Kingdom
45, joined Oct. 2015


Burt don't be difficult k boo

3/7/2017 9:59:43 AM What would. JESUS do?  
burt_hurt
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,424)
Beverly Hills, CA
37, joined Jan. 2017


It's a reasonable question!

What would he do about what? the leaking faucet?

3/7/2017 9:59:55 AM What would. JESUS do?  

stanleyzee
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (57,506)
Dayton, OH
60, joined Dec. 2012


Quote from ingloriusbastrd:
I'm out DEARand BH loving one another bye for now y'all BOOBOOS

3/7/2017 10:00:14 AM What would. JESUS do?  
queennawty
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (39,610)
Middlesex
United Kingdom
45, joined Oct. 2015


sheesh men

3/7/2017 10:00:53 AM What would. JESUS do?  
burt_hurt
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,424)
Beverly Hills, CA
37, joined Jan. 2017


Thanks,

So what would Jesus do about loving one another.

He'd probably sit in the corner watching and whacking off.

3/7/2017 10:01:02 AM What would. JESUS do?  
vanilla_cream2
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,503)
Philadelphia, PA
41, joined Sep. 2014


Quote from ingloriusbastrd:




3/7/2017 10:08:16 AM What would. JESUS do?  
queennawty
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (39,610)
Middlesex
United Kingdom
45, joined Oct. 2015


No that was you member

3/7/2017 10:45:21 AM What would. JESUS do?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (262,892)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010




3/7/2017 10:53:14 AM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Being a good, right-wing capitalist, Jesus would obviously rape and impoverish billions of workers around the world to secure multi-million dollar incomes for capitalists, loot the public till for massive bailouts of rich capitalists from their failed investments, and wage lots of imperialist wars in the effort to obtain lucrative markets currently under the control of other capitalists. He also would employ lots of killer-cops to keep the increasingly-outraged underclass masses in check.

3/7/2017 10:56:09 AM What would. JESUS do?  

sddnly_snoozin
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,110)
Staffordshire
United Kingdom
43, joined Mar. 2016


Nothing. It's a myth. To be fair religion doesn't dictate good and bad in people. The person does whether they believe or not.

It's book that was written what are now laws. Same principle to get people to conform. That doesn't even happen with those that do believe because they choose their version to what fits them best.

3/7/2017 10:57:07 AM What would. JESUS do?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (262,892)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010





SMILE

3/7/2017 11:20:39 AM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from condor_0000:
Being a good, right-wing capitalist, Jesus would obviously rape and impoverish billions of workers around the world to secure multi-million dollar incomes for capitalists, loot the public till for massive bailouts of rich capitalists from their failed investments, and wage lots of imperialist wars in the effort to obtain lucrative markets currently under the control of other capitalists. He also would employ lots of killer-cops to keep the increasingly-outraged underclass masses in check.


Being a good, right-wing capitalist, Jesus would also demand that the HUGE, BIG-GOVERNMENT police state that all right-wing capitalists dearly love round up all "illegals" and deport them to the slave-waged plantations from which they attempted to escape.

And f**k the children escapees! Jesus would deport their f**king asses as well, separating families along the way. Jesus would also coin the term "anchor babies" in the attempt to demonize the children of immigrants to the masses so he could really f**k them up the ass. Jesus hates children. But he loves fetuses.

-----------

Trump administration escalates campaign of fear and terror against immigrants
6 March 2017
World Socialist Web Site
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/03/06/pers-m06.html

Excerpts:

Another week of the Trump administration’s campaign against undocumented immigrants has brought another round of atrocious cases in which longstanding US residents have been snatched from their families and either jailed or deported.

The litany of horrors has been almost entirely ignored by the national media and the Democratic Party.

On Tuesday, Romulo Avelica-Gonzalez was seized by Immigration and Customs Enforcement after dropping his daughter off at school in Los Angeles. Two carloads of ICE agents stopped the car that the 48-year-old Avelica was driving and arrested him in front of his wife and 13-year-old daughter. The father of four US citizen children, Avelica has lived in southern California since he was 21 and has worked steadily throughout that time, 60 and 70 hours a week, in local restaurants.

In a blatant act of political reprisal, 22-year-old Daniela Vargas was detained by ICE agents in Jackson, Mississippi, after she left a press conference where she protested the detention of her father and brother on February 15. The Vargas family came to the United States from Argentina in 2001, when Daniela was only seven years old. As a child arrival, Daniela was given temporary exemption from deportation under the DACA program, but her exemption lapsed while she was trying to raise the $495 fee to extend it. Her attorney said that she was in an ICE detention facility in Louisiana and would be processed as a visa waiver overstay and deported to Argentina without a hearing.

On Thursday, Juan Carlos Fomperosa Garcia went to the ICE office in Phoenix, Arizona, keeping an appointment to discuss his request for asylum. He has lived in the US for 20 years and is the single father of three US citizen children. An hour later, ICE agents dropped off a bag with a few of his belongings at his home, handing it to his 23-year-old daughter Yennifer Sanchez. On Friday morning, Fomperosa Garcia called his children to let them know he had been deported to Mexico, leaving Sanchez as the sole guardian of her 17-year-old brother and 14-year-old sister.

There are many more stories like these, most of which are not even covered in the local media.

An atmosphere of fear and terror is gripping immigrant communities throughout the country. The cruelty of these measures is not an accident or an excess, but a deliberate and intentional feature of the anti-immigrant pogrom unleashed by President Trump’s executive orders on January 25. White House aides said the purpose of the orders was to “unshackle” immigration agents—in other words, to free them from any restraints in the treatment of the thousands that are or will be rounded up.

This reality is underscored by a report by Reuters that the Department of Homeland Security, which includes both ICE and the Border Protection Service, is considering a proposal for the systematic separation of women and children detained while crossing the border together illegally. DHS officials reportedly briefed asylum officers on the plan, whose purpose, they said, was to “deter mothers from migrating to the United States with their children.”

The new policy would allow federal agents to keep mothers imprisoned indefinitely, while their children would be turned over to the protective custody of the Department of Health and Human Services, which would place them in the “least restrictive setting” it could provide, including a state-sponsored guardian. Whether and how the mothers would be reunited with their children, during or after deportation, remains unclear.

The order would have two main purposes: to lessen the impact of a court order issued last July that barred prolonged detention of children, which has forced ICE to release most mothers with children from detention centers; and to intimidate future refugees from Central America, where most of the families come from. The word will be spread to those countries that mothers coming to the United States will lose the children they are trying to protect.

The police state methods inflicted on immigrant workers are a dress rehearsal for what the Trump administration and the US ruling elite, Democrats and Republicans, have in store for the working class as a whole. The brutual treatment of immigrants is a preparation for deploying the vast machinery of state repression against coming struggles by workers, both native-born and immigrant, in defense of their jobs, living standards and democratic rights.



[Edited 3/7/2017 11:21:31 AM ]

3/7/2017 11:33:32 AM What would. JESUS do?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (262,892)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Jesus, and his community, weren't capitalists.

They were communal.

3/7/2017 12:14:52 PM What would. JESUS do?  

cern_
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,220)
Danville, KY
62, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from condor_0000:
Being a good, right-wing capitalist, Jesus would obviously rape and impoverish billions of workers around the world to secure multi-million dollar incomes for capitalists, loot the public till for massive bailouts of rich capitalists from their failed investments, and wage lots of imperialist wars in the effort to obtain lucrative markets currently under the control of other capitalists. He also would employ lots of killer-cops to keep the increasingly-outraged underclass masses in check.


There never was such a sociopathic human animal in the historical record at all, so you can't classify his place on the political spectrum. In a small portion of the obscene piece of fiction about the punk one can only say that he encouraged violence, rape and family neglect, and because he couldn't make it as a carpenter his megalomaniacal tendencies forced him to go into the god business. The myth suggests that he was a flimflam mammal, one that could cure the sick and the blind, cure the dead from their deaths, and that he started an IPO in the fishing business -- another Bernie Madoff.

3/7/2017 12:19:14 PM What would. JESUS do?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (262,892)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Atheists and Agnostics are born again comedians.

Can't prove,or disprove, chit but love to prattle on.

3/7/2017 12:51:51 PM What would. JESUS do?  

cern_
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,220)
Danville, KY
62, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from cupocheer:
Atheists and Agnostics are born again comedians.

Can't prove,or disprove, chit but love to prattle on.


What created all of the Skycreatures that you're silly enough to think actually exist? The same people who created leprechauns, unicorns, tooth fairies and other nonexistent beings, fools and ignoramuses, that's who. There's no such thing as an agnostic.

3/7/2017 12:55:45 PM What would. JESUS do?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (262,892)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010




3/7/2017 1:00:29 PM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from cupocheer:
Jesus, and his community, weren't capitalists.

They were communal.


Hey! Don't ever call Jesus a communist again, bytch! That's blasphemy! Jesus was a good, right-wing, labor-raping, public-till-looting, warmongering, immigrant-hating capitalist and we all know it. That's why capitalism, right-wing politics and Christianity all go hand in hand, just as I previously pointed out.



[Edited 3/7/2017 1:00:47 PM ]

3/7/2017 1:03:16 PM What would. JESUS do?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (262,892)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010




With respect, Condor.

F**K YOU

Read the Bible, B*TCH!

I have.

3/7/2017 1:03:32 PM What would. JESUS do?  

stratus55
Over 2,000 Posts (2,512)
Jackson, GA
52, joined Jan. 2017


he would not do what this dumb pic is about..heartless an godless people......

3/7/2017 1:04:01 PM What would. JESUS do?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (262,892)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010




3/7/2017 1:14:12 PM What would. JESUS do?  

cern_
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,220)
Danville, KY
62, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from cupocheer:


As brilliant a writer and as deep-thinking a mammal as ever, I see. Didn't you embarrass yourself enough in the last thread about your mythical maniac-of-choice?

3/7/2017 2:59:39 PM What would. JESUS do?  

cern_
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,220)
Danville, KY
62, joined Mar. 2014


"I cannot imagine a god who rewards and punishes the OBJECTS of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a god, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." -- Albert Einstein

(A man that rejected the idea of "souls" in the body, not a pantheistic fellow, an obvious atheist. I reject all of these weird terms, one is either a thinker or a nonthinker.)

3/7/2017 3:37:56 PM What would. JESUS do?  
dysonxx
Over 2,000 Posts (2,101)
Jacksonville, FL
45, joined Aug. 2014


Nail you to a cross for trying to cash in on stans thread success with this cheap imitation thread

3/7/2017 3:45:26 PM What would. JESUS do?  
thepanicisover
Over 1,000 Posts (1,119)
Chesapeake, VA
35, joined Nov. 2016


Jesus would say, "Encore??"

3/7/2017 3:47:58 PM What would. JESUS do?  
burt_hurt
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,424)
Beverly Hills, CA
37, joined Jan. 2017


He'd sing along to Chanson D'amour by Manhattan Transfer.

3/7/2017 3:57:35 PM What would. JESUS do?  

cern_
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,220)
Danville, KY
62, joined Mar. 2014


This is Z's thread, so you're stating that Z is "cashing in" on Z's "cheap imitation" of Z's previous thread.

3/7/2017 4:04:54 PM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from cupocheer:


With respect, Condor.
F**K YOU

Read the Bible, B*TCH!

I have.


Well, you must have missed the parts of the Bible that all of us right-wing capitalists read. Jesus was a good worker-raping, warmongering, public-till-looting, police-state-loving capitalist who hated immigrants. We right-wingers voted for Trump because he is the most Christ-like man we have ever seen. Now excuse me while I go pray for some wonderful Armageddon to befall upon all of humanity.



[Edited 3/7/2017 4:05:16 PM ]

3/7/2017 4:25:53 PM What would. JESUS do?  

iam_resurrected
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,675)
Reno, NV
46, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from cern_:

(A man that rejected the idea of "souls" in the body, not a pantheistic fellow, an obvious atheist. I reject all of these weird terms, one is either a thinker or a nonthinker.)




actually, many reject the idea of God being personable yet they believe as Einstein and Spinoza that God is capable of holding the universe together by which even science itself as a philosophy (or made up of beliefs (not facts)) cannot even justly explain.

if you notice a physicist is made up of math : A typical undergraduate physics program covers essential basic competence required in areas of physics endeavor like astrophysics, laboratory knowledge, electricity and magnetism, thermodynamics, optics, modern physics, calculus, etc. and also in computer science and programming.

this is much like Galileo.

no wonder both Galileo and Einstein could understand a God.

they both were about math which is clearly substantial to science more than science is to math.

just like in Galileo's day science and math were 2 separate ideas not connected.

today, without math science cannot even claim scientific theory.

quite funny how the one needs the other more

3/7/2017 4:38:16 PM What would. JESUS do?  

iam_resurrected
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,675)
Reno, NV
46, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from condor_0000:
Well, you must have missed the parts of the Bible that all of us right-wing capitalists read. Jesus was a good worker-raping, warmongering, public-till-looting, police-state-loving capitalist who hated immigrants. We right-wingers voted for Trump because he is the most Christ-like man we have ever seen. Now excuse me while I go pray for some wonderful Armageddon to befall upon all of humanity.




the fact merchants set up in the temple tells you in those days the temple was a money place for self gain rather than a church making money.

in essential, the Jews made a mall in the temple (church/house) of God.

by Jesus kicking them out removed all doubt he was not about money but about trying to explain the purpose of things.

3/7/2017 4:57:30 PM What would. JESUS do?  

cern_
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,220)
Danville, KY
62, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from cern_:
"I cannot imagine a god who rewards and punishes the OBJECTS of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a god, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." -- Albert Einstein

(A man that rejected the idea of "souls" in the body, not a pantheistic fellow, an obvious atheist. I reject all of these weird terms, one is either a thinker or a nonthinker.)


According to Spinoza and Einstein there will be no postmortem pleasantville for any Earthly animals, nonthinker-in-chief.

3/7/2017 5:01:43 PM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from iam_resurrected:
the fact merchants set up in the temple tells you in those days the temple was a money place for self gain rather than a church making money.

in essential, the Jews made a mall in the temple (church/house) of God.

by Jesus kicking them out removed all doubt he was not about money but about trying to explain the purpose of things.


I believe it was Deuteronomy 28 where Jesus said, "SHOW ME THE MONEY!"

Jesus was clearly a good, right-wing capitalist who eagerly raped the f**king shit out of workers, waged lots of imperialist wars and looted the public till for capitalist bailouts, war spending, and corporate subsidies. So don't try passing off any more of that "Jesus was a commie" bull-shit.

3/7/2017 5:46:43 PM What would. JESUS do?  

iam_resurrected
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,675)
Reno, NV
46, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from cern_:
According to Spinoza and Einstein there will be no postmortem pleasantville for any Earthly animals, nonthinker-in-chief.








Albert Einstein's religious views have been widely studied and oftentimes misunderstood.[1] Einstein stated that he believed in the pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza

In a letter to Henry Oldenburg Spinoza wrote: "as to the view of certain people that I identify god with nature (taken as a kind of mass or corporeal matter), they are quite mistaken".[1] For Spinoza, our universe (cosmos) is a mode under two attributes of Thought and Extension. God has infinitely many other attributes which are not present in our world

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble minds. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God." Albert Einstein

seems like solid evidence that Einstein followed Spinoza's idea of almighty God by giving God specific attributes like "THOUGHT and EXTENSION" via his statement above

both of them such non thinkers too

3/7/2017 5:50:00 PM What would. JESUS do?  

iam_resurrected
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,675)
Reno, NV
46, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from condor_0000:
I believe it was Deuteronomy 28 where Jesus said, "SHOW ME THE MONEY!"

Jesus was clearly a good, right-wing capitalist who eagerly raped the f**king shit out of workers, waged lots of imperialist wars and looted the public till for capitalist bailouts, war spending, and corporate subsidies. So don't try passing off any more of that "Jesus was a commie" bull-shit.




you have no clue about the bible and the name of Jesus was not even mentioned in the Old Testament, let alone Deuteronomy



[Edited 3/7/2017 5:50:56 PM ]

3/7/2017 5:53:58 PM What would. JESUS do?  

iam_resurrected
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,675)
Reno, NV
46, joined Jul. 2014


to help out Cern since his statements on his perception gods to God means nothing.

this is how the term Elohim means : singular not plural

Elohim :
Elohim is a grammatically singular or plural noun for "god" or "gods" in both modern and Biblical Hebrew. Despite the-im ending common to many plural masculine nouns in Hebrew, the word is grammatically singular, and takes a singular verb in the Hebrew Bible when referring to God

singular, as in 10 Commandments : have no other gods before ME (singular).



[Edited 3/7/2017 5:54:26 PM ]

3/7/2017 6:12:08 PM What would. JESUS do?  

lightsquare
Over 7,500 Posts!! (7,790)
Abra PampaAbra Pampa
Argentina
44, joined Dec. 2014
online now!


Mary Magdelene and Jesus were a hot item. Mary was a wh*re with her bag of tricks and she used them on Jesus to make his toes curl. During the Middle Ages, Mary Magdalene was regarded in Western Christianity as a repentant prostitute or promiscuous woman, claims not found in any of the four canonical gospels.

3/7/2017 6:20:00 PM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Einstein letter sold for record sum—Part 1
By Ann Talbot and Chris Talbot
23 June 2008
World Socialist Web Site
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/06/ein1-j23.html

Excerpt:

A previously unknown letter of Einstein’s recently came up for sale at auction. It is a remarkable document because it contains the great physicist’s candid comments on religion.

Einstein wrote that “the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”

The opinions he expressed in this new letter run entirely contrary to the remark that is often quoted to sum up Einstein’s views on religion. “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”

This famous remark seems to suggest that Einstein thought that science and religion were compatible and is often quoted by those who want to claim Einstein for the religious lobby.

The letter had been expected to sell for about $16,000, but it eventually went for $404,000 after what was described as “frenetic” bidding. “This extraordinary letter seemed to strike a chord, and it gave a deep personal insight into one of the greatest minds of the 20th century,” said Rupert Powell for Bloomsbury Auctions.

He refused to name the successful bidder who wished to remain anonymous. But one of the unsuccessful bidders was Richard Dawkins, the biologist and outspoken opponent of religion.

The price gives an indication of just how significant this document is. Potentially it casts a new light on Einstein’s views on religion and the development of his ideas. It is likely that this important letter will now disappear from public view. It has been in private hands since shortly after it was written and was unknown to scholars.

Under the circumstances it might be thought that the media would have expressed a lively interest in the letter. Einstein is an iconic figure. Revelations about his love life evoked considerable media attention and attempts by feminist historians to demonstrate that it was his first wife, Mileva Maric, who discovered the theory of relativity were given far more attention than they deserved.

The centenary of Einstein’s annus mirabilis, in which he published five ground breaking papers which fundamentally altered our understanding of nature and brought about a technological revolution later in the century [1], excited some interest but the new letter has gone almost unreported. The two papers that devoted most attention to the letter—the New York Times and the Guardian—both made reference to Einstein’s supposed antipathy to atheists as though the ghost of the great man was wagging a finger at the atheist and unsuccessful bidder Richard Dawkins from beyond the grave.

What is expressed here is strong desire among sections of the intelligentsia on both sides of the Atlantic to downplay Einstein’s views on religion because they run counter to a cowardly effort to reconcile religion and science. There is certainly a reluctance to give space to views that might be regarded as critical of Israel. Neither the Guardian nor the New York Times were prepared to discuss the implications of the Einstein letter which dismissed conventional concepts of religion, praised the seventeenth century materialist philosopher Spinoza and rejected the belief that the Jews were a “chosen” people.

Einstein wrote the letter on January 3, 1954. It was addressed to the Jewish philosopher Eric Gutkind, who had sent him a copy of his book Choose Life: The Biblical Call to Revolt. An uncorrected translation of part of the letter appeared in the Guardian [2]. It is thoroughly unsatisfactory, but it is all that we have of this unique document. It is reproduced below:

... The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything ‘chosen’ about them.

In general I find it painful that you claim a privileged position and try to defend it by two walls of pride, an external one as a man and an internal one as a Jew. As a man you claim, so to speak, a dispensation from causality otherwise accepted, as a Jew the privilege of monotheism. But a limited causality is no longer a causality at all, as our wonderful Spinoza recognized with all incision, probably as the first one. And the animistic interpretations of the religions of nature are in principle not annulled by monopolisation. With such walls we can only attain a certain self-deception, but our moral efforts are not furthered by them. On the contrary.

Now that I have quite openly stated our differences in intellectual convictions it is still clear to me that we are quite close to each other in essential things, i.e. in our evalutations [sic]of human behaviour. What separates us are only intellectual ‘props’ and ‘rationalisation’ in Freud’s language. Therefore I think that we would understand each other quite well if we talked about concrete things.

With friendly thanks and best wishes

Yours, A. Einstein.


Even in this unpolished form the content of the letter is clear. The author of these words dismisses the “word of God” as the “product of human weaknesses,” describes the Bible as a series of “primitive legends,” identifies all religions, including the Jewish religion, as “childish superstitions” and proceeds to praise Spinoza for his refusal to place any limitation on causality.

3/7/2017 6:20:58 PM What would. JESUS do?  

iam_resurrected
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,675)
Reno, NV
46, joined Jul. 2014


Quote from lightsquare:
Mary Magdelene and Jesus were a hot item. Mary was a wh*re with her bag of tricks and she used them on Jesus to make his toes curl. During the Middle Ages, Mary Magdalene was regarded in Western Christianity as a repentant prostitute or promiscuous woman, claims not found in any of the four canonical gospels.





interesting fact about Mary M.
the passage of scripture reads "she was caught in the act".
this is why they desired to stone her right then and there.
in theory, the reason they figured she was a wh*re because there was a line waiting out her door.
so yeah, she was indeed a wh*re who did what she did and said she lived well doing it (until they wanted to stone her to death).

French historians have Mary relocating to France and marrying a man name John.

it would appear she found peace in Christ and found happiness finally by finding a man who was not there to just use her.

French historians claim they started several churches.

3/7/2017 6:22:23 PM What would. JESUS do?  
DawnIta1973
Over 1,000 Posts (1,443)
BadraoMilan
Italy
44, joined Feb. 2017


We have a new thread already? The old thread reached the max. of comments?! I can't believe it.

3/7/2017 6:24:56 PM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from iam_resurrected:
you have no clue about the bible and the name of Jesus was not even mentioned in the Old Testament, let alone Deuteronomy


I've read very little of the Bible. I prefer to read nonfiction.

3/7/2017 6:25:26 PM What would. JESUS do?  

iam_resurrected
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,675)
Reno, NV
46, joined Jul. 2014


ConMan :
and proceeds to praise Spinoza for his refusal to place any limitation on causality.














this thought does not add up to this letter from Spinoza explaining what his real idea of God is....

In a letter to Henry Oldenburg Spinoza wrote: "as to the view of certain people that I identify god with nature (taken as a kind of mass or corporeal matter), they are quite mistaken".[1] For Spinoza, our universe (cosmos) is a mode under two attributes of Thought and Extension. God has infinitely many other attributes which are not present in our world.

3/7/2017 6:26:35 PM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from DawnIta1973:
We have a new thread already? The old thread reached the max. of comments?! I can't believe it.


It's God's will. God said, "Let there be a new thread" and so it was.

Or maybe it's just that some stupid Jesus-freak thought that there can never be enough Jesus threads.

3/7/2017 6:27:58 PM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from iam_resurrected:
ConMan :
and proceeds to praise Spinoza for his refusal to place any limitation on causality.

this thought does not add up to this letter from Spinoza explaining what his real idea of God is....

In a letter to Henry Oldenburg Spinoza wrote: "as to the view of certain people that I identify god with nature (taken as a kind of mass or corporeal matter), they are quite mistaken".[1] For Spinoza, our universe (cosmos) is a mode under two attributes of Thought and Extension. God has infinitely many other attributes which are not present in our world.


... The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. These subtilised interpretations are highly manifold according to their nature and have almost nothing to do with the original text. For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything ‘chosen’ about them.

In general I find it painful that you claim a privileged position and try to defend it by two walls of pride, an external one as a man and an internal one as a Jew. As a man you claim, so to speak, a dispensation from causality otherwise accepted, as a Jew the privilege of monotheism. But a limited causality is no longer a causality at all, as our wonderful Spinoza recognized with all incision, probably as the first one. And the animistic interpretations of the religions of nature are in principle not annulled by monopolisation. With such walls we can only attain a certain self-deception, but our moral efforts are not furthered by them. On the contrary.

Now that I have quite openly stated our differences in intellectual convictions it is still clear to me that we are quite close to each other in essential things, i.e. in our evalutations [sic]of human behaviour. What separates us are only intellectual ‘props’ and ‘rationalisation’ in Freud’s language. Therefore I think that we would understand each other quite well if we talked about concrete things.

With friendly thanks and best wishes

Yours, A. Einstein.


Even in this unpolished form the content of the letter is clear. The author of these words dismisses the “word of God” as the “product of human weaknesses,” describes the Bible as a series of “primitive legends,” identifies all religions, including the Jewish religion, as “childish superstitions” and proceeds to praise Spinoza for his refusal to place any limitation on causality.

3/7/2017 6:29:48 PM What would. JESUS do?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (262,892)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Quote from condor_0000:
I've read very little of the Bible. I prefer to read nonfiction.


Do you base your fictional posts on your non-fiction reads?

3/7/2017 6:41:01 PM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Einstein letter sold for record sum—Part 2
By Ann Talbot and Chris Talbot
24 June 2008
World Socialist Web Site
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2008/06/ein2-j24.html

Excerpts:

Albert Einstein was educated in both the Christian and Jewish religions, but he became a convinced atheist at the age of 12 and refused to take part in the Jewish Bar Mitzvah ceremony. His marriage in 1903 was a purely civic and non-religious occasion. He opposed his children receiving religious education at elementary school, saying, “Anyway, I dislike very much that my children should be taught something that is contrary to all scientific thinking.”

Einstein’s whole adult life was lived without benefit of religion, which makes the attempt to conscript him as a posthumous partisan for religious fundamentalism entirely unfounded. He would certainly have opposed the attempt of the Templeton Society to impose religion in schools since he refused to have his own children subjected to a religious education.

3/7/2017 6:46:55 PM What would. JESUS do?  
condor_0000
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,398)
Tampa, FL
60, joined Feb. 2013


Quote from cupocheer:
Do you base your fictional posts on your non-fiction reads?


My fictional posts are just me having a satirical little personal laugh at right-wingers and Jesus-freaks.

3/7/2017 6:49:22 PM What would. JESUS do?  

jason_in_tx
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (25,280)
Bryan, TX
33, joined Apr. 2013


Who cares what Jesus would do? He's dead, get over it.

3/7/2017 6:51:39 PM What would. JESUS do?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (262,892)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Jason 8s an atheist -- which means he can't provide any proof to support his opinion.

3/7/2017 6:52:52 PM What would. JESUS do?  

iam_resurrected
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (21,675)
Reno, NV
46, joined Jul. 2014


(The following is from Einstein and Religion by Max Jammer, Princeton University Press)

"I'm not an atheist, and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations."



if the first statement is fact then Einstein could had legally sued Princeton and those misquoting him.
or
made them retract it.

oddly enough, Princeton does not retract their claim on what Albert said




***in fact Jammer also included other statements by Einstein*** :

“Behind all the discernible concatenations, there remains something subtle, intangible and inexplicable. Veneration for this force is my religion. To that extent, I am in point of fact, religious.”

“Every scientist becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men.”

“Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe – a spirit vastly superior to that of man.”

“The divine reveals itself in the physical world.”

“My God created laws… His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking but by immutable laws.”

“I want to know how God created this world. I want to know his thoughts.”

“What I am really interested in knowing is whether God could have created the world in a different way.”

“This firm belief in a superior mind that reveals itself in the world of experience, represents my conception of God.”

“My religiosity consists of a humble admiration of the infinitely superior spirit, …That superior reasoning power forms my idea of God.”

all from Albert Einstein





Max Jammer was a personal friend of Einstein and a Professor of Physics

you would think a personal friend and colleague would be factual about a friend.



[Edited 3/7/2017 6:55:02 PM ]

3/7/2017 6:59:22 PM What would. JESUS do?  

inde_5
Over 2,000 Posts (3,743)
Bonaire, GA
43, joined Sep. 2014


Jesus..would want me, to come back and tell everyone again,

i saw him at Taco bell..eating cinamon twistys and nachos.

3/7/2017 7:11:15 PM What would. JESUS do?  
dysonxx
Over 2,000 Posts (2,101)
Jacksonville, FL
45, joined Aug. 2014


Quote from inde_5:
Jesus..would want me, to come back and tell everyone again,

i saw him at Taco bell..eating cinamon twistys and nachos.


Is he responsible for this miracle?



3/7/2017 8:18:54 PM What would. JESUS do?  

cern_
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,220)
Danville, KY
62, joined Mar. 2014


"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal god and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." -- Albert Einstein

3/7/2017 8:21:42 PM What would. JESUS do?  
DawnIta1973
Over 1,000 Posts (1,443)
BadraoMilan
Italy
44, joined Feb. 2017


Quote from condor_0000:
It's God's will. God said, "Let there be a new thread" and so it was.

Or maybe it's just that some stupid Jesus-freak thought that there can never be enough Jesus threads.




3/7/2017 8:31:52 PM What would. JESUS do?  

cern_
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,220)
Danville, KY
62, joined Mar. 2014


Quote from cupocheer:
Jason 8s an atheist -- which means he can't provide any proof to support his opinion.


You couldn't possibly prove that there ever was such a mammal as the mythical Jesus, that's a fact.