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3/17/2017 7:08:24 AM	We're all Irish today.
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Today, as most people know, is St. Patrick's Day in the Catholic liturgy. "Saint Patrick was born in Great Britain about the year 385. As a young man he was captured and sold as a slave in Ireland where he had to tend sheep. Having escaped from slavery, he chose to enter the priesthood, and later, as a bishop, he tirelessly preached the Gospel to the people of Ireland where he converted many to the faith and established the Church. He died at Down in 461." --from today's breviary reading The (possibly true, possibly invented, possibly true but embellished) story is that Patrick explained the Trinity to the Irish by using a shamrock (three leaf clover)---here we have one leaf but three leaves within a leaf, and God is three Persons in one God, he would preach. Anyway, he is responsible for converting the Irish, who went on to become arguably the most fervent Catholic nation of them all, except maybe Poland. In the early 1500s, while England, Scotland, and Wales were going Protestant, Ireland tenaciously stuck to Catholicism. For centuries the English, who ruled Ireland, did everything they could to force Ireland to go Protestant, but to no avail---the Irish would not give up their faith. An Irish lady once told me this was because of the Irish people's great devotion to the Blessed Mother. She might have been right, I don't know. I'm wearing green today. I consider it an act of piety, an hinor I give to one of Christianity's most famous missionary saints, St. Patrick. St. Patrick, pray for us. Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
3/17/2017 7:38:08 AM	We're all Irish today.
a_nubian Columbus, OH 53, joined Jan. 2011	Patrick and the Early Celtic Church: Sunday-keeping Roman Catholics or Sabbath-observant Christians? Highlights from: http://www.truthontheweb.org/patrick.htm "It seems to have been customary in the Celtic churches of early times, in Ireland as well as Scotland, to keep Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath, as a day of rest from labor. They obeyed the fourth commandment literally upon the seventh day of the week." (James C. Moffatt, D. D.,The Church in Scotland, Philadelphia: 1882, p.140) "In this latter instance they seemed to have followed a custom of which we find traces in the early monastic church of Ireland by which they held Saturday to be the Sabbath on which they rested from all their labours." (W.T. Skene, Adamnan Life of St. Columba, 1874, p.96) "The monks sent to England [in 596 A.D.] by Pope Gregory the Great soon came to see that the Celtic Church differed from theirs in many respects…Augustine himself [a Benedictine abbot]…held several conferences with the Christian Celts in order to accomplish the difficult task of their subjugation [submission] to Roman authority…The Celts permitted their priests to marry, the Romans forbade it. The Celts used a different mode of baptism [i.e., true baptism: immersion] from that of the Romans…The Celts held their own councils and enacted their own laws, independent of Rome. The Celts used a Latin Bible [i.e., the Itala] unlike the [Roman Catholic's Latin] Vulgate, and kept Saturday as a day of rest.” (A.C. Flick, The Rise of Medieval Church, p.236-327) "He (Patrick) never mentions either Rome or the pope or hints that he was in any way connected with the ecclesiastical capital of Italy. He recognizes no other authority but that of the word of God. ...When Palladius arrived in the country, it was not to be expected that he would receive a very hearty welcome from the Irish apostle. If he was sent by [pope] Celestine to the native Christians to be their primate or archbishop, no wonder that stout-hearted Patrick refused to bow his neck to any such yoke of bondage." (Dr. Killen, Ecclesiastical History of Ireland, vol.1, pp.12-15) "The Roman Catholics have proudly and exclusively claimed St. Patrick, and most Protestants have ignorantly or indifferently allowed their claim...But he was no Romanist. His life and evangelical Church of the 5th century ought to be better known." (McClintock and Strong, Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, Vol. VII, p.776; article: Patrick, St.)
3/17/2017 9:08:15 AM	We're all Irish today.
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Then why is Ireland solidly Catholic today, except for the Belfast area? The truth is that all Christians of Patrick's era owed allegiance to the pope, except the Manichaens, Gnostics, and other heretics. Even the Arian heretics at least gave lip service to the papacy. Christianity was united back then, not like it is now.
3/17/2017 9:36:25 AM	We're all Irish today.
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3/17/2017 9:56:35 AM	We're all Irish today.
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	We are not all Catholic Irish however. When "Bloody" William Cromwell conquered Ireland for the English he gave portions of the conquered lands to his commanding Forces. Kilkenny was awarded to a branch of my family lineage. The first children (of English ancestry) born in Ireland came from this ascendant relative. Thomas married an English lass and became the progenitors of a well-known American lineage. Their son, Daniel, raised in the Church of England doctrine, became entranced with the Quaker faith and was reprimanded and restricted from family "affiliation" until he 'came to his senses'. Daniel stayed in his 'right senses', but when he fell in love and married, a beautiful Irish Catholic girl, he was ejected from the family and refused entry to the family Estates. Daniel, with his young bride, and the beginnings of his own family boarded a ship with a huge group of Quaker families and sailed for America. Daniel settled in Virginia, established massive lands and became a staunch Quaker leader, 'tho his wife never converted. Today, Daniel's original Estates house a university, unfortunately, founded by Jerry Falwell. Among his progeny are many recognizable Americans, including: a recipe purchaser, a hospital & college founder, an Indian fighter, a kinsman of Daniel Boon(e), a land speculator extraordinaire, doctors, attorneys, politicians, the wife of a US President, and a multitude of others, both famous, and infamous. Thank God for those Irish ancestors and their fighting spirit to face the foe and persevere. Cheers
3/17/2017 10:39:09 AM	We're all Irish today.
a_nubian Columbus, OH 53, joined Jan. 2011	Quote from ludlowlowell: Then why is Ireland solidly Catholic today, except for the Belfast area? The truth is that all Christians of Patrick's era owed allegiance to the pope, except the Manichaens, Gnostics, and other heretics. Even the Arian heretics at least gave lip service to the papacy. Christianity was united back then, not like it is now. By subjugation via Henry II. Henry II was a Catholic King of England, loyal to the Pope. Conversion was forced; not welcomed.
3/17/2017 11:08:39 AM	We're all Irish today.
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	When I said "we're all Irish today" I didn't mean it literally. I just meant that celebrating St. Patrick's day is very popular in the U.S.
3/17/2017 11:40:28 AM	We're all Irish today.
isna_la_wica Brantford, ON 63, joined Mar. 2012	For crying out loud, can no body celebrate any thing, with out some self righteous stuff from the past being thrown at them? Like, wow, cancel July the 4th, because slavery was around when it started. The Irish are a warm and friendly people, very well educated, talented in music and dance like no others. I do not care Catholic or Protestant , whether your ancestors were Orange or green. I hope every one has a fun day. {I recently discovered I have way more Irish than I ever knew. And I have no clue if they were Catholic or Protestant, and could care less. I enjoy life, and am grateful that I have their genes that always allowed me to have fun} So enjoy wearing green , have a green beer or green tea! Live and let live, play some river dance videos and toast what ever you drink to St Patrick. This Catholic/ Protestant thing is silly, when you are talking about celebrating a culture that includes both. Its just a celebration is all. Anyway, pretty sure the lawyers should be getting ready to attack people that celebrate Easter , what ever. Have they not got some sites too look up, saying what Pagans we all are?
3/17/2017 11:46:40 AM	We're all Irish today.
clarity101 Aurora, CO 66, joined Oct. 2008	"Who was Saint Patrick and why do we celebrate St. Patrick's Day?" Answer: Patrick, whom almost everyone calls “Saint Patrick,” although he was never canonized by the Catholic Church, was born to a wealthy family in AD 387 in Kilpatrick, Scotland. His real name was Maewyn Succat. It was his extensive missionary work in Ireland for which Patrick is famous. During the thirty years of work there, he supposedly converted over 135,000 people, established 300 churches, and consecrated 350 bishops. Patrick died on March 17, 461. For over a millennium, the Irish have celebrated St. Patrick’s Day on March 17. History records that Saint Patrick, at age sixteen, was captured by Irish raiders and spent several years as a slave in Ireland. It was during this time that he learned the various rituals, customs, and language of Druids, and it was these people that he eventually evangelized. Patrick apparently had a dream in which God spoke to him, saying, “Your ship is ready.” Patrick was then able to escape Ireland by ship. Shortly thereafter, he experienced another dream in which he received a letter that was labeled the “voice of the Irish.” When he opened it, he heard the voices of all those whom he had met in Ireland begging him to return. Saint Patrick then returned to Ireland to tell people about Christ. Though the task was difficult and dangerous, he persisted and was able to build a strong foundation for Christianity. The Irish people were receptive to his teachings, especially in light of the fact that he was able to take several of their Celtic symbols and “Christianize” them. The most well-known of Patrick’s illustrations is the shamrock, a certain type of clover sacred to the Druids, which he used as a symbol of the Trinity. Each year millions of people celebrate St. Patrick’s Day. It is a national holiday in Ireland when people do not work but worship and gather with family. In the United States, the first St. Patrick’s Day parade was held in New York on March 17, 1762. It consisted largely of Irish soldiers. Today, St. Patrick’s Day is celebrated by wearing green, which symbolizes spring as well as Irish culture. What started as a religious holiday has become a secular celebration of all things Irish. Neither Saint Patrick nor St. Patrick’s Day is mentioned in Scripture. While we would strongly disagree of some aspects of theology that St. Patrick taught, the fact that around 1,600 years ago a man dedicated his life to proclaiming the gospel, resulting in tens of thousands coming to faith in Christ, is most definitely worth celebrating (Luke 15:7–10). Recommended Resource: Balancing the Christian Life by Charles Ryrie
3/17/2017 1:44:02 PM	We're all Irish today.
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	I didn't realize she was Irish.
3/17/2017 2:41:06 PM	We're all Irish today.
isna_la_wica Brantford, ON 63, joined Mar. 2012
3/17/2017 3:08:17 PM	We're all Irish today.
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3/17/2017 3:10:43 PM	We're all Irish today.
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3/17/2017 3:22:56 PM	We're all Irish today.
isna_la_wica Brantford, ON 63, joined Mar. 2012	Quote from slowpoke7: Nice clogging ! Lol, I wish I could do as well, now days his knees get higher than mine can. Have a good day Slow Poke!
3/17/2017 4:31:45 PM	We're all Irish today.
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Q. What's Irish and stays out all night? A. Paddy O'Furniture!
3/17/2017 6:14:35 PM	We're all Irish today.
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	Paddy was reading the news paper and saw his name in the obituary. Calling his friend, Shamus, Paddy says, "Shamus, they say I'm dead!" Shamus, "Yes I saw your obit. So where ya callin' from?"
3/17/2017 6:22:59 PM	We're all Irish today.
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	That's pretty good, Cup.
3/17/2017 8:11:56 PM	We're all Irish today.
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	The doors of the hospital elevator slid open and a Sister of Mercy, garbed in habit & cornette, greet the woman dressed in an abba & hijab, "What order? "
3/19/2017 1:10:40 PM	We're all Irish today.
ludlowlowell Panama City, FL 64, joined Feb. 2008	Two days ago was, in the Catholic Church's liturgical calendar, the feast of St. Patrick. Today is the feast of St. Joseph, the foster father of Jesus Christ. The Italians, especially, have always been known for their devotion to St. Joseph. St. Patrick, pray for us. St. Joseph, pray for us.
5/30/2017 8:50:51 AM	We're all Irish today.
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