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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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For me, it was "Oh, once you're saved, once you've guvwn your heart to Jesus, not only will all your sins go away, you won't even want to sin anymore!"
The ministers tell a lot of whoppers but to me that is the biggest one. Anyone have a bigger one than that?
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Tell me, Lud -- was that preacher a Methodist pastor or an evangelist?
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looptex1
Chatsworth, GA
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The biggest whopper I've heard any minister teach is that one can lose salvation
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Ludlow, why is it so hard for you to believe that once you love God with all your heart, mind and soul you "won't even want to sin anymore"?
Just because you obviously don't love God enough to stop sinning doesn't mean no one else has, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Okay, KB and Looptex, how many people do you know that got "saved" at an altar call and were absolutely perfect after that, for the rest of their lives?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Who told you loving God enough not to sin makes you perfect, Ludlow? Why do you think it would? The important question is, Ludlow, why do you keep sinning while going to confession every month for 45 years? Can't control yourself, right? Don't value truth and sincerity and love God enough do you, Ludlow? Why do you want to sin, Ludlow?
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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We all want to sin. We are all, including Jesus Himself, tempted to sin.
Who told me I would never sin again? Who told me I would never even want to sin? The Methodist ministers and seminarians who ran Blue Lake Camp near Andalusia, Alabama back in the late 1960s, when I was in my teens.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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We all want to sin. We are all, including Jesus Himself, tempted to sin.
Who told me I would never sin again? Who told me I would never even want to sin? The Methodist ministers and seminarians who ran Blue Lake Camp near Andalusia, Alabama back in the late 1960s, when I was in my teens.
"We all want to sin"
You san rightely speak for no one other than yourself.
Why do you want to keep sinning, Ludlow?
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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What is a true conversion, a turning from worldlyism to Christ? Is it an emotional experience at an altar call or youth summer camp, wherein one has an emotional experience, is "saved", and never sins again, not even the tiniest venial sin, and never even wants to sin or is ever tempted?
Or is it both in the heart and the head? Is it not only falling in love with Jesus with one's heart, but also velieving everything Jesus taught with one's head? Is it recognizing we all have sinful inclinations, even believers in Christ? Is it doing all we can, with the help of God's grace, to curb our evil inclinations and become the best people that we can? Is it recognizing that even the just man falls seven times a day, at least into venial sin (Proverbs 24:16)? Is it recognizing, that if we commit a mortal sin, we must repent all over again and go to Confession?
Is salvation a one time event or a lifetime struggle? For a hint see Phillipians 2:12.
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looptex1
Chatsworth, GA
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Okay, KB and Looptex, how many people do you know that got "saved" at an altar call and were absolutely perfect after that, for the rest of their lives?
lud, you wouldn't understand.
There is none, and never will be none, that is perfect in the flesh.
That what it's called sinful flesh.
Yet, that which is born of God cannot sin.
So you tell me, what or who is born of God.
You will never understand because you don't study the word, you allow your church to spoon feed you and never stop drinking milk.
so it's really a waste of time saying anything to you.
For you don't know, and those who teach you teach lies keeping you dependant upon them.
Your understanding, or comprehension is lacking G severely.
Or you just choose to ignore what others have proven by the scriptures to be true, and just believe the lies you've been taught.
I feel sorry for you.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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 spoken like a man of God or as a student of the Bible. 
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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lud, you wouldn't understand.
There is none, and never will be none, that is perfect in the flesh.
That what it's called sinful flesh.
Yet, that which is born of God cannot sin.
So you tell me, what or who is born of God.
You will never understand because you don't study the word, you allow your church to spoon feed you and never stop drinking milk.
so it's really a waste of time saying anything to you.
For you don't know, and those who teach you teach lies keeping you dependant upon them.
Your understanding, or comprehension is lacking G severely.
Or you just choose to ignore what others have proven by the scriptures to be true, and just believe the lies you've been taught.
I feel sorry for you.
If a person doesn't repent of his or her sins, at least of all his or her mortal sins, Hod will send that person to Hell, no matter how much faith the person has.
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looptex1
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If a person doesn't repent of his or her sins, at least of all his or her mortal sins, Hod will send that person to Hell, no matter how much faith the person has.
Do you know where all flesh is going?
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ludlowlowell
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All human flesh will rise on the Last Day, some to go to Heaven, some to burn forever in Hell.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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I realize ministers are human beings and as such are subject to comments of a questionable nature, especially in the heat of ecstasy.
Therefore, I don't ridicule a teacher of God's word - regardless of his religious affiliation.
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looptex1
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All human flesh will rise on the Last Day, some to go to Heaven, some to burn forever in Hell.
not according to scripture.
The flesh returns to the dust from where it came.
The flesh does not rise, nor does it enter into heaven.
That is, according to the scriptures.
Catholics may teach otherwise, but that doesn't surprise me.
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ludlowlowell
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The Catholic Church teaches that all the dead will rise from the dead on the Last Day, some going to Heaven, some going to Hell. If there is no specific verse in scripture that says this, it doesn't matter---the Church's teachings are infallible. Long before there was such a thing as the Bible there was the Catholic Church.
I Timothy 3:15 identifies the Church, not the Bible, as the pillar and ground of truth.
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freegratis
Irving, TX
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The Catholic Church teaches that all the dead will rise from the dead on the Last Day, some going to Heaven, some going to Hell. If there is no specific verse in scripture that says this, it doesn't matter---the Church's teachings are infallible. Long before there was such a thing as the Bible there was the Catholic Church.
I Timothy 3:15 identifies the Church, not the Bible, as the pillar and ground of truth.
It sounds like you are dropping the Purgatory option. That's progress.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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The Catholic Church teaches that all the dead will rise from the dead on the Last Day, some going to Heaven, some going to Hell. If there is no specific verse in scripture that says this, it doesn't matter---the Church's teachings are infallible. Long before there was such a thing as the Bible there was the Catholic Church.
I Timothy 3:15 identifies the Church, not the Bible, as the pillar and ground of truth.
"the Church's teachings are infallible"
You are a "sick" man, Ludlow. If that were true which its not. But if it were true the Catholic church sure gave Jesus the finger and proceeded to teach it was righteous and just to torture and burn to death at the stake their brethren for a thousand years calling them witches and heretics.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I left Purgatory out of this discussion because Purgatory is not a permanent place. Nobody ever goes to Purgatory forever, and Purgatory will cease to exist on the Last Day---the souls that are there on the Last Day will go on to Heaven. (All souls sent to Purgatory will eventually go to Heaven.)
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looptex1
Chatsworth, GA
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The Catholic Church teaches that all the dead will rise from the dead on the Last Day, some going to Heaven, some going to Hell. If there is no specific verse in scripture that says this, it doesn't matter---the Church's teachings are infallible. Long before there was such a thing as the Bible there was the Catholic Church.
I Timothy 3:15 identifies the Church, not the Bible, as the pillar and ground of truth.
The scriptures predate the Catholic church.
Jesus predates and trumps the Catholic Church.
The scripture says, all flesh returns to the dust.
What catholics think doesn't matter.
Jesus says, flesh and blood cannot enter.
What catholics think does not matter.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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The Old Testament predated thevCatholic Church but not the New Testament. At the Council of Hippo in 393 a.d. the Catholic bishops in attendance selected 73 books, 45 of them written before the Church was founded and 27 of them after, and declared that these books were inspired of God. That's how and why we have a Bible today.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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All flesh does return to the dust. We don't need the Bible to tell us that, we know that. But the Church teaches that on the Last Day all will rise. "Flesh and blood will not enter the Kingdom of God" means that flesh and blood alone will not---the grace of God is also necessary.
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looptex1
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The Old Testament predated thevCatholic Church but not the New Testament. At the Council of Hippo in 393 a.d. the Catholic bishops in attendance selected 73 books, 45 of them written before the Church was founded and 27 of them after, and declared that these books were inspired of God. That's how and why we have a Bible today.
lud, are you an idiot?
If the new testament letters didn't predate the Catholic church, then where did they come from?
How did any council deem them inspired if they didn't already exsist?
You are well known for saying,
"Without the Catholic Church we wouldn't have the bible"
Thats equivalent to saying
"Without Websters we wouldn't have the English language"
You do believe in the English language don't you?
Surely you believe that the English language exsist before Websters dictionary?
Then get a grasp on this.
Websters did not produce or invent the English language.
He took the English language and placed all English words and definitions in a book called a dictionary.
The Catholic Church did not write or invent the scriptures, they took the scriptures and placed the letters in a book called the bible.
And then they teach contrary to what the scriptures say.
The scriptures do not say, nor do they insinuate, that flesh and blood can enter with the help of grace or anything else.
The scriptures say, rather Jesus said, flesh and blood cannot enter.
will you argue and claim Jesus, the son of God, is wrong?
I dare say you will, you have no regard for the scriptures.
You are truly a follower of men.
but according to the scriptures, those that are led by the spirit, they are the sons of God.
God would love to call you his son, but you must deny, mother father brother and sister and even your chosen church, and follow him
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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The Catholic Church predated the New Testament writings. The first New Testament book to be written, Matthew, was written approximately six years after Jesus' ascension, according to early Christian writers. Modern scholars think it was written later, but either way it was written after Jesus established the Church.
The scriptures are not meant to be interpreted literally, word for word, without regard for other scripture passages.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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"Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his [the Son of man's] voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of the life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."
Jesus (John 5:28-29)
Not only does this prove the Catholic doctrine that all will rise, but it also proves that good works are necessary for salvation.
Other verses also teach the general resurrection:
"...that there shall be a general resurrection of the dead, both of the just and of the unjust."
--Acts 24:15
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
--Jesus (Matthew 10:28)
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looptex1
Chatsworth, GA
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The Catholic Church predated the New Testament writings. The first New Testament book to be written, Matthew, was written approximately six years after Jesus' ascension, according to early Christian writers. Modern scholars think it was written later, but either way it was written after Jesus established the Church.
The scriptures are not meant to be interpreted literally, word for word, without regard for other scripture passages.
and what was the name of the church Jesus started?
It wasn't the Catholic Church, it didn't come along till many years later.
So once again, the scriptures predate the Catholic Church.
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ludlowlowell
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They used to be called the St. Louis Browns but now they are the Baltimore Orioles. It used to be called Siam but now it's called Thailand. It was once called Pure Oil Company, but the name changed to Union 76 in the 1970s. In all three cases the name changed but the nature of the organization stayed the same.
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looptex1
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They used to be called the St. Louis Browns but now they are the Baltimore Orioles. It used to be called Siam but now it's called Thailand. It was once called Pure Oil Company, but the name changed to Union 76 in the 1970s. In all three cases the name changed but the nature of the organization stayed the same.
but that's not the case here.
I could say the samething and claim it was the baptist church he started.
And even have biblical evidence that baptist were around during that time.
You have no evidence.
and then of course, Jesus didn't sell his church to anyone, and no one took over his church, so there would not have been a need to change the name.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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The Baptist Church, originally called the Anabaptist Church because they were against baptizing infants (hey, this Church had a name change too!), was founded by John Smyth in Holland in 1609. The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ at Jerusalem circa a.d. 29.
Oh, those old stubborn historical facts!
You follow John Smyth. I'll follow Jesus Christ.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Who is the current Pope?
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looptex1
Chatsworth, GA
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The Baptist Church, originally called the Anabaptist Church because they were against baptizing infants (hey, this Church had a name change too!), was founded by John Smyth in Holland in 1609. The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ at Jerusalem circa a.d. 29.
Oh, those old stubborn historical facts!
You follow John Smyth. I'll follow Jesus Christ.
show me the historical fact that Jesus founded the Catholic Church.
Do it and I'll send you 5000 dollars.
No you do know what facts are don't you?
Provable evidence, verifiable evidence, undisputed evidence.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Jesus founded the Catholic Church and appointed Peter to be the first pope. See Matthew 16:18-19.
Contact me via private message and I'll tell you where to send the $5000.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Loop, send me just $1,000.00 and I'll PROVE JESUS CHRIST Did Not "found" the Roman Catholic Church --- I'll even throw in incontrovertible PROOF that Simon (Peter) wasn't a Catholic pope let alone the first one for an additional fee of just $19.95.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Some want truth. Others only want what makes them feel good.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Why do only want to know what makes you feel good LUD?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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"the Church's teachings are infallible" -Ludlow
You are a "sick" man, Ludlow. If that were true which its not. But if it were true the Catholic church sure gave Jesus the finger and proceeded to teach it was righteous and just to torture and burn to death at the stake their brethren for a thousand years calling them witches and heretics.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If you think the Inquisition was tough wait'll you see Jesus in action on Judgment Day.
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looptex1
Chatsworth, GA
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Jesus founded the Catholic Church and appointed Peter to be the first pope. See Matthew 16:18-19.
Contact me via private message and I'll tell you where to send the $5000.
wrong, Jesus didn't appoint peter pope.
you love adding to God's word don't you?
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looptex1
Chatsworth, GA
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Loop, send me just $1,000.00 and I'll PROVE JESUS CHRIST Did Not "found" the Roman Catholic Church --- I'll even throw in incontrovertible PROOF that Simon (Peter) wasn't a Catholic pope let alone the first one for an additional fee of just $19.95.
really? If I thought for 1 second that it would convince lud, and that he might would convert.
I would do it in a heartbeat.
$1000 plus $19.95 would be a small price to pay to see lud loosed from his chains.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If I left the Catholic Church, where would I go? Jesus has tge words of eternal life. John Smyth, founder of the Baptist (formerly Anabaptist) Church, does not.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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If I left the Catholic Church, where would I go? Jesus has tge words of eternal life. John Smyth, founder of the Baptist (formerly Anabaptist) Church, does not.
You are mistaken, my friend.
Try again.
But then, you claim to be a Romantic Catholic.
Why would a Roman Catholic give up religious persecution in this current era if they didn't believe they could still get away with it?
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looptex1
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If I left the Catholic Church, where would I go? Jesus has tge words of eternal life. John Smyth, founder of the Baptist (formerly Anabaptist) Church, does not.
You answered you own question.
Where would you go? To jesus of course
The Catholic Church does not have Jesus locked up in a box
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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If you think the Inquisition was tough wait'll you see Jesus in action on Judgment Day.
Only a satanic fool like yourself would excuse/dismiss the horrible murderous acts of the Catholic church for a thousand years by claiming Jesus does worse, Ludlow.
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isna_la_wica
Brantford, ON
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What the biggest whopper you ever heard from a poster who claims he is a Catholic ever told you?
For me, it was "Oh, once you're saved, once you've guvwn your heart to Jesus, not only will all your sins go away, you won't even want to sin anymore!"
The ministers tell a lot of whoppers but to me that is the biggest one. Anyone have a bigger one than that?
Lud is like Pinocchio. Pinocchio thinks a man made made him, and lud thinks he is saved by men.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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But He does, KB. Read the gospels.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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But He does, KB. Read the gospels.
Whether Jesus does or not in your warped satanic mind it does not justify in any way the horrible murderous acts of the Catholic church for a thousand years. You are a pathetic sicko, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
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Jesus, the wimpy little marshmallow who forgives everyone, repentant or not.
This is the way many imagine Him but this is not the Jesus of the gospels.
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
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Strange that you would publish an accounting visualizing Jesus Christ as a "marshmallow".
If that were, indeed, the case then he would surely have been a toasted, hot marshmallow which stuck to one's lips and tongue, searing a sweetness, into the mind forever.
Wimpy!?! Riiight! Some wimp! A whole Empire "feared" his spoken message so much they had murder him to silence him. (Are you listening Pharisees & Seducees? Roman Catholics? Gnostics? Hypocrites?)
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ludlowlowell
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I don't visualize Jesus that way myself, Cup, but KB evidently does. If you suggest to him that God might punish anyone for anything, or that Hell exists (something Jesus taught over and over), KB gets extremely upset.
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kb2222
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I don't visualize Jesus that way myself, Cup, but KB evidently does. If you suggest to him that God might punish anyone for anything, or that Hell exists (something Jesus taught over and over), KB gets extremely upset.
You are such a pathetic sicko, Ludlow, and these words..."Jesus, the wimpy little marshmallow who forgives everyone, repentant or not"...came out or your warped mind not anyone else's. Again, whether Jesus does or not "send thousands to hell every day" as in your warped satanic mind you claim it does not justify in any way the horrible murderous acts of the Catholic church for a thousand years. You are a sick, lying, pathetic hypocrite, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
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Thousands die every day with most of them going to Hell.
The scribes and Pharisees asked Jesus if the saved would be few in number, and Jesus replied "few will find it".
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kb2222
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Again, whether Jesus does or not "send thousands to hell every day" as you claim it does not justify in any way the horrible murderous acts of the Catholic church for a thousand years. You are a sick, lying, pathetic hypocrite, Ludlow.
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| 4/3/2017 5:49:26 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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In the Old Testament there are all kinds of types, or prefigures. The Passover prefigures Christ's death on the cross and the Mass, for instance, or all the Old Testament prophets prefigure Christ, or the manna in the desert prefigures Holy Communion.
Could the Inquisition be a prefigure of Judgment Day, where heretics and witches get far worse than a stoning or a burn at the stake?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You have a sick, twisted, corrupt mind, Ludlow.
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| 4/3/2017 6:28:51 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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When Jesus spoke if Hell as a place if wailing and gnashing of teeth, was He sick and perverted?
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| 4/3/2017 7:23:28 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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The word Hell is not in the Bible and that's not the issue. Again, whether Jesus does or not "send thousands to hell every day" as you claim it does not justify in any way the horrible murderous acts of the Catholic church for a thousand years and for you to seek to justify the murderous inquisition by claiming it served to "prefigure Judgment Day" shows how pathetically sick and corrupt you truly are, Ludlow.
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| 4/4/2017 7:08:28 AM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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The word "Hell" is in most English translations of the Bible, including the Catholic Douay-Rheims and the Protestant King James versions. Even those that delete the word Hell describe a place of eternal firey torment---see the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. God is not the diddeting old gool you think He is, KB. God sends thousands of people to Hell every day.
Protestants take note---the rich man in that parable went to Hell, not because of his lack of faith---we know he had faith because he called on Father Abraham---but because of his lack of good works. Protestants should also note that praying to saints is allowed because the rich man was praying to Abraham, an Old Testament saint. This parable also shows that "call no man father" is not to be taken literally.
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| 4/4/2017 8:06:30 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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I checked. The word Hell is in the Bible but that's not the issue and I don't think God is a "wimpy marshmallow" or a "diddeting old gool" so why do LIE and say that's what I think, Ludlow?
Again, whether Jesus does or not "send thousands to hell every day" as you claim it does not justify in any way the horrible murderous acts of the Catholic church for a thousand years and for you to seek to justify the murderous inquisition by claiming it served to "prefigure Judgment Day" shows how pathetically sick and corrupt you truly are, Ludlow.
Are you so perverted you can't see this, Ludlow?
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| 4/4/2017 8:18:44 AM |
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a_nubian
Columbus, OH
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The word "Hell" is in most English translations of the Bible, including the Catholic Douay-Rheims and the Protestant King James versions. Even those that delete the word Hell describe a place of eternal firey torment---see the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. God is not the diddeting old gool you think He is, KB. God sends thousands of people to Hell every day.
Protestants take note---the rich man in that parable went to Hell, not because of his lack of faith---we know he had faith because he called on Father Abraham---but because of his lack of good works. Protestants should also note that praying to saints is allowed because the rich man was praying to Abraham, an Old Testament saint. This parable also shows that "call no man father" is not to be taken literally.
Often the concept of an eternal burning in hell is associated with the term "for ever".
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Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”
Compare the biblical concept of "forever'.
Jonah 2:6
I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
Duet 23:3
An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD forever:
The idea that one burns for ever is not eternal but however long that duration; until complete in total destruction.
The erroneous teaching that people burn "for ever" was introduce by the Catholic church to scare people into loving God.
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