I'm stunned, you prophets foretold us of wars and earthquakes and they fail.

But now, here we are, headed to war with Syria, and your prophets didn't warn us.

Hmmm

I'm stunned, you prophets foretold us of wars and earthquakes and they fail.

But now, here we are, headed to war with Syria, and your prophets didn't warn us.

Hmmm

no, I dont really expect it to become a full blown war.
But I really do t ever expect a full blown war to come about, not one with a job world forces.
I suspect that the middle east will most likely to continue to have their spats, and from time to time the USA or Russian armies with step in just to show off....

I've read Isaiah before, it has nothing to do with 2017 or even anytime after.

Damascus is the oldest continually-inhabited city in the world. It has been the capital of Syria for centuries. But if Isaiah says it will be a ruinous heap one day, I believe it. Maybe between Trump and Putin it soon will be.

The burden of Damascus - Which is, according to the common version, The cities of Aroer are forsaken. It has already been observed by the learned prelate that the prophecy, as it relates to Damascus, was executed in the beginning of the reign of Ahaz, probably about the third year.

If we credit Midrash, the Damascenes were the most extensive and flagrant of all idolaters. "There were in Damascus three hundred and sixty-five streets, in each of these was an idol, and each idol had his peculiar day of worship; so that the whole were worshipped in the course of the year." This, or any thing like this, was a sufficient reason for this city's destruction.

A ruinous heap - For ??? mei, "a ruinous heap," the Septuagint reads ??? lei, "for a ruin," the Vulgate ??? kei, "as a ruin." I follow the former.

Louie has been abducted by aliens from the planet Nibiru for blowing their cover...

As for the strike on Assad's airfield - I think this is a bit arbitrary, sure chemical weapons are terrible, but so is all warfare.

I also think this is partly an attempt by Frump to distance himself from the Russia problems he's having.

Ezekiel 12:23
Tell them therefore, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will make this proverb to cease, and they shall no more use it as a proverb in Israel; but say unto them, The days are at hand, and the effect of every vision.
24For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination within the house of Israel. 
25For I am the LORD: I will speak, and the word that I shall speak shall come to pass; it shall be no more prolonged: for in your days, O rebellious house, will I say the word, and will perform it, saith the Lord GOD


Tell me o wise one, which prophecy is the bible was spoken "in your days"?

It seems as though it is you, you are the who who thinks he is smarter than God.

God says, I will speak, and will perform it in your days.

Iam says, God spoke it, they heard it, but 2500 years later it still has not come to pass.

There you go again, not believing what God has said.

Keep going to the OT prophets, keep quoting the prophecies the foretold, keep claiming G these prophecies did not come to pass in the lifetime of those that heard.
Keep proclaiming the proverb God said he would cause to cease.

Join the Catholic Church, you will feel right at home, they don't believe ALL God has said either.

Ezekiel 12:

21
And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
22
Son of man, what is that proverb that ye have in the land of Israel, saying, The days are prolonged, and every vision faileth?
23
Tell them therefore, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will make this proverb to cease, and they shall no more use it as a proverb in Israel; but say unto them, The days are at hand, and the effect of every vision.
24
For there shall be no more any vain vision nor flattering divination within the house of Israel.
25
For I am the LORD: I will speak, and the word that I shall speak shall come to pass; it shall be no more prolonged: for in your days, O rebellious house, will I say the word, and will perform it, saith the Lord GOD.








Israel here, is basically practicing witchcraft, sorcery, fortune teller. God is saying, "their fortune telling" will not and never come to pass. But God is also clear, His prophecies, that He continues to make, "will" always be true and forever.

Nice try at scripture misuse



...and shame on you, for equaling God, to witchcraft

What am I ignoring? God said this was, pertaining to, their divination and fortune telling. It is rather clear, what He said, and why he said it. Which is not how you are interpreting it.

try reading and accepting what God said for once.

I didn't attribute anything.
I directly quoted what God said.

You just don't like the truth.

WHOA!!! Hold the fire now boys and girls... Aren't you familiar with, the sect of heretics, claiming, that all prophecy has been over and done with, since 70 AD? And, you are going to reveal, yet, another unfulfilled prophecy? How dare you claim, that God is smarter, than us all

The END is here, and closing in fast, my friends. We are most definitely, in the era, of Laodecia. Ya better keep that oil fresh, and them wicks trimmed

The "end " is here? What "end"? I am sure its near for me in a physical ways, sure, but what is going to "end"? The world?

Ecclesiastes 1:4 Amplified Bible (AMP)


One generation goes and another generation comes,
But the earth remains forever.

Psalm 78:69 Amplified Bible (AMP)

69
And He built His sanctuary [exalted] like the heights [of the heavens],
Like the earth which He has established forever.

Psalm 93:1Amplified Bible (AMP)


93 The Lord reigns, He is clothed with majesty and splendor;
The Lord has clothed and encircled Himself with strength;
the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved.

Psalm 96:10 Amplified Bible (AMP)

10
Say among the nations, “The Lord reigns;
Indeed, the world is firmly and securely established, it shall not be moved;
He will judge and rule the people with fairness.”

Psalm 104:5 Amplified Bible (AMP)


He established the earth on its foundations,
So that it will not be moved forever and ever.

Psalm 119:90 Amplified Bible (AMP)


Your faithfulness continues from generation to generation;
You have established the earth, and it stands [securely].

No, the Earth is not going to ever end. One can argue that, to quote the song, "the world as we know it", is going to end sure. I am sure my ancestors would say that if they are looking down here right now( I am speaking figuratively}.

Many diminish the Holy Spirit, and claim what Jesus prayed for cannot be real unless Jesus is here with us in a physical nature. Let me repeat something the big Troll always likes to take out of context when I say it. Watch him start a new thread,lol.

Since when did Jesus ever leave us as orphans? Non Trinitarians have to ignore all the promises made us, if Christ is not with us in spirit, then they have to believe that God did not answer the prayer Jesus made : "'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."

But what does Scripture tell us?

Was this verse only for those of us in 2017?

Deuteronomy 31:8 Amplified Bible (AMP)

8 It is the Lord who goes before you; He will be with you. He will not fail you or abandon you. Do not fear or be dismayed.”

Why is this verse said in the present tense, if Jesus left us and the Holy Spirit and he are not one ?

Luke 12:32 Amplified Bible (AMP)

32 Do not be afraid and anxious, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

Or these verse`s ?

Hebrews 13:5 Amplified Bible (AMP)

5 Let your character [your moral essence, your inner nature] be free from the love of money [shun greed—be financially ethical], being content with what you have; for He has said, “I will never [under any circumstances] desert you [nor give you up nor leave you without support, nor will I in any degree leave you helpless], nor will I forsake or let you down or relax My hold on you [assuredly not]!”

Matthew 28:20 Amplified Bible (AMP)

20 teaching them to observe everything that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always [remaining with you perpetually—regardless of circumstance, and on every occasion], even to the end of the age.”

I am quite content that he is with me in Spirit, and know there is no end, this promise is not something for the "future" . With out the trinity though, then one has to place it so. But that diminishes not only the Cross, but also the Holy Spirit. And it makes those verses promising us he would never leave us, as lies.

2 Corinthians 2:14-16 Amplified Bible (AMP)

14 But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and through us spreads and makes evident everywhere the sweet fragrance of the knowledge of Him. 15 For we are the sweet fragrance of Christ [which ascends] to God, [discernible both] among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing; 16 to the latter one an aroma from death to death [a fatal, offensive odor], but to the other an aroma from life to life [a vital fragrance, living and fresh]. And who is adequate and sufficiently qualified for these things?

Here is something interesting about the Destruction of 70 AD. That was supposed to be the end of the church and end of prophecy. If this was so, then why is there recorded evidence of the same church around 70 AD, being active until the Roman pagan Catholics took their Hebrew 4 Gospels and bastardized them around 325 AD?

1. The Nazoreans and Other Jewish Christians

The very first followers of Jesus were called the Nazoreans. This was a general name for the Jewish followers of Christ, but it is unknown to what extent they were actually Christian. They must have known and understood many aspects of Jesus - who spoke Aramaic like the Nazoreans - which are now lost and misunderstood. From 70CE cataclysmic events led to the Nazoreans being dispersed and broken, which led to their demise (except for a brief resurgence in the 2nd century). They were eclipsed by Roman converts to Christ (by the Pauline Christians, mostly).

Many gentiles already called the Nazoreans Christians, but, we still know little about them. The Ebionites are more distinct and had one of the first Christian documents, the Gospel of Matthew. Later Christians moved so far from their roots that they came to no longer recognize the earliest Christians.

“Besides the Ebionites, there were other Jewish Christian sects, such as the Nazarenes, the Symmachians, and the Elkasites, but it is difficult to distinguish one from the other, and the names are not used with any consistency. Ebionite is the most common designation, and it may simply have been a term used to characterize any form of Jewish Christianity with a stress on the observance of Jewish law.”
"The Encyclopedia of Religion" by Eliade Mircea (1987)1
“Initially a sect of Judaism, Christianity first organized itself in Jerusalem. However, although Jewish Christianity was dominant at first, within 20 years it had moved out into the Gentile (non-Jewish) world.”
"Encyclopedia of New Religions"
Christopher Partridge (2004)2
2. Ebionites

2.1. The First Recognized Christians in Antiquity

#christianity #judaism

The first Christians were the Jews who believed that Jesus was the Jewish messiah. In his earliest work which mentions the Ebionites, Eusebius before 313CE writes that in a village called Choba, "there are Hebrews who believed in Christ, called Ebionites"3. They used an early Gospel of Matthew, and their beliefs are in accordance with the earliest reports of the gospels of Luke and Matthew, and with Jewish prophecy.

The term Ebionite "was at first [...] a common name for all Christians, as Epiphanius (d. 403) testifies (Adv. Haer., xxix. 1)."4 and it was "used by the Christian bishop Irenaeus of Lyons (Gaul) in the late second century to designate a Jewish Christian sect". Although some later Christians thought that it came from a person called Ebion, this is not the correct root of the word. Ebionites may mean "austere ones" but the origin of the term is obscure5.

It looks to me like Ezekiel 12 is about Israel being scattered into other nations and only a remnant remaining in Israel. Which had not been fulfilled to that point.

Then, by your argument, Ezekiel 37:3 Israel becoming a nation once again could not be fulfilled because of Ezekiel 12:25 "for in your days", which happened in 1948.

Is your point that the prophesied White Throne Judgment in Revelation 20:11-15 has already happened due to Ezekiel 12:25 "for in your days"?

I suppose the millennial kingdom has also happened, by your reasoning?

Ezekiel 12 was more about not believing God's prophecies will come to pass.

You are falling into the trap of 2 Peter 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

He establish his kingdom good 2000 years ago'



Indeed Christ did. But He has yet to come and take his "Bride," the church back.

It makes me wonder about those established churches around 70 AD that continued "after" the destruction of Jerusalem. One would think if God did return and 70 AD was Armageddon that those churches would had ceased at 70 AD, not continued weeks and months again afterwards.

Why would God make a promise and leave "His church" and its remnants to continue on?

Yes I'm claiming all of them didn't go to heaven.
All of them didn't die.

And no e of them missed the resurrection, as Jesus told Martha, I am the resurrection.

I didn't miss it either.
I know the resurrection, I have been resurrected.

Your looking and saying that Jesus has left his bride and went on a journey from the natural point of view.

But Jesus said, when he is come, speaking of the spirit of truth which is jesus,

He also said, I will never leave you nor forsake you and he hasnt.

He dwells within us, and us in him, in his kingdom.
There's not gonna be a natural kingdom, if there were, he would have not stopped peter when he drew his sword to fight.
But his kingdom is not of this world, we dwell in it, or rather the 2nd man adam dwells in it now and this 1st man adam will return to the dust just as promised.

Yes, the jew were looking for a physical kingdom, they were also looking for a real king and missed the king of kings when he appeared.
So what they were looking for bears no weight in the matter of what really come.

This seems to relate other than the fact those "remnants" left behind understand that was not the second coming of Christ and they did not miss the resurrection. They were still preaching the original gospel (without virgin birth) and Christ returning for his "Bride".

Had that been the second coming, the "Remnant of the First Assembly" would had documented that.

Instead, we have "evidence" that the Remnant First Church Assembly was preaching and teaching as the disciples before and after 70 AD, into John being tossed into Patmos 82 AD, and writing the last of the "prophecies pertaining to Christ and His (Second coming) around 95 AD!!"

Which the Remnants of the First Church Assembly (Second "generation") began using John's Revelation as part of the "Original Bible!!"

Hi loop Just passing on some helpful information to you. Below is a link to a website you'd probably find interesting. It should help clear a lot up with better understanding. Very informative and enlightening about every prophecy of the Bible, Genesis through Revelation. I have the book, had it for some time now ... EXCELLENT book and truthful well studied author!!! Pay particular attention to page 375 as we're still in the Church Age, but not for much more time, for His hand is on the doorknob, about to open the door! Praise the Lord! Come Jesus COME!! There have been many prophecies fulfilled and many yet to be fulfilled, but no more are required to be fulfilled before He comes for His bride! (AND, we're watching the Bible come to life before our eyes as prophecy is being fulfilled as we speak!}

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Loop, I'll be honest with you ... I didn't read beyond your first few beginning comments. Why? You have become hardened to the truth, believing as you do. Truly sad. I was offering you help through the prophecy book so you would realize and understand the truth. Since you've chosen not to read it and understand the truth, it does sadden me for you now not know and understand Biblical truth. I, nor anyone else can make you do what you don't want to do, or to understand Biblical truth. I can and will pray for God to open your eyes and ears to the truth before it's too late.