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freegratis
Irving, TX
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Please post the version of the bible you are using and explain the meaning of this verse, Philippians 1:6.
I hear that some workers are slackers, but I'm inclined to believe that God's work does not return void, even though I only find that God's Word or word does not return void. God speaks it and it happens, so God's work does not return void.
Also, I don't think Jesus is an indian giver:
NKJV John 10:28-30
28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”
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| 4/7/2017 10:26:38 AM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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It means that if we persevere in Christ, avoiding at least mortal sin, and praying at least daily, we will make spiritual progress, and can achieve, through His grace, perfection.
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| 4/7/2017 10:33:44 AM |
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freegratis
Irving, TX
50, joined Dec. 2011
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It means that if we persevere in Christ, avoiding at least mortal sin, and praying at least daily, we will make spiritual progress, and can achieve, through His grace, perfection.
Did you begin a good work, or did God? However, I am not saying not to do what you have said.
No version of the bible? Or at least some directive from some pope?
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| 4/7/2017 12:19:39 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Good works done while in the state of grace please God very much and merit us rewards in Heaven. (Not all souls in Heaven have the same reward---the more good works we do, the greater our reward.) Good works done while in the state of mortal sin are still good, they please God up to a point, and should not be discouraged, but there is no reward in Heaven for them.
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| 4/7/2017 1:08:04 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Good works done while in the state of grace please God very much and merit us rewards in Heaven. (Not all souls in Heaven have the same reward---the more good works we do, the greater our reward.) Good works done while in the state of mortal sin are still good, they please God up to a point, and should not be discouraged, but there is no reward in Heaven for them.
Spoken by a man who cannot stop sinning and even claims it is not possible to not sin.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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It is possible, through the grace of God, to get to the point where one does not commit sin, even venial sin. But this is quite rare and I am far from this myself.
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| 4/8/2017 9:43:36 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Yes, you are certainly far from not sinning. You can't even stop lying nor cease to blaspheme God/Jesus with your murderous beliefs and teachings.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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MY murderous teachings? All I did was repeat the teachings of Jesus.
Jesus made it clear that there is a Hell, there is real fire there, it is very painful, and it is eternal. He also taught that He would forgive sinners, but only if they turned away from their sins and repented.
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| 4/8/2017 6:53:15 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Ludlow, you are a sick, corrupt, wicked minded, sadistic person to assert it was Gods will that your brothers and sisters should be stoned and burnt to death at the stake for these so-called mortal sins...
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
...so that God/Jesus could then cast them into a fiery Hell and torment them for eternity.
You serve Satan not God, Ludlow, and you are going to have your reward.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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But these things ARE mortal sins, KB.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Only in your church indoctrinated sick satanic mind they are. Jesus stopped the prostitute from being stoned to death but in your sick mind you don't care what Jesus taught, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Jesus stopped the adulterous woman from being stoned because He knew she was reentant, and also to announce the end of the Levitical law. The unrepentant do not get forgiven.
Many people think that just because God forgives repentant sinners that God will forgive all sinners. It doesn't work that way.
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| 4/9/2017 8:16:24 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Lud if I knew nothing of Christianity I would not want to worship a God like that.
More and more protestants and evangelicals are re-evaluating the idea of an eternal hell fire burning.
Your very statement is a contradiction to what God's Love is all about.
Quote from ludlowlowell:
All translations of the Bible, whether Greek, Latin, Hebrew, or English, whether ancient or modern, contain copy and translation errors. We have no original manuscripts extant.
Quote from rey2140:
BTW, if this is true, and it is, How can the Bible be the infallible word of God? It cannot be.
That's right its not and its blasphemous to believe and teach that God/Jesus would order man to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all these absurd reasons...
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
...and then send them to a fiery Hell and torment them for all eternity.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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The souls burning in excruciating torment in Hell. They will be there forever! Just think---if only they had repented when they had the chance God would have forgiven them.
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| 4/9/2017 10:02:49 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are a sick depraved sinner who makes a mockery of the confessional and blasphemes God/Jesus with your church indoctrinated teachings. You are no more righteous in your heart than Satan who you serve with your depraved teachings about God our Holy Father and you are going to have your reward, Ludlow.
I suggest you read the following and act to save your soul while you can.
Hell is a Christian Hoax
https://bible-truths.com/23-minutes-in-hell.html
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| 4/9/2017 1:46:19 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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If you are as pure, holy, and sinless as you think you are, KB, you have nothing to fear from Hell. Or even Purgatory.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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If you are as pure, holy, and sinless as you think you are, KB, you have nothing to fear from Hell. Or even Purgatory.
Why do you apparently strive to be such a lying reprobate, Ludlow? Are you just so corrupt you don't care? Apparently you are and you do this while preaching hell fire, damnation and eternal torment for unrepentant sinners like yourself. I don't claim to be pure and holy. I claim only to be a repentant sinner who has grasped my sonship with God and who has put sin behind me. Something which you obviously have not Your mind is corrupt, Ludlow, and you appear shamelessly incorrigible.
As I said: You are a sick depraved sinner who makes a mockery of the confessional and blasphemes God/Jesus with your church indoctrinated teachings. You are no more righteous in your heart than Satan who you serve with your depraved teachings about God our Holy Father and you are going to have your reward, Ludlow.
I suggest you read the following and act to save your soul while you can.
Hell is a Christian Hoax
https://bible-truths.com/23-minutes-in-hell.html
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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But you DO claim to be pure and holy! You said you put all your sins behind you.
How do you I haven't repented all my sins?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Lying and bearing false witness is a sin and you do that all the time and blasphemy is a sin and you do that all the time. As I see it only God is Holy, certainly not any book that makes God/Jesus out to be murderous tormenters. You are a sick incorrigible man, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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What lie did I tell? What blasphemy did I utter?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are a sick incorrigible man, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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What lie did I tell? What blasphemy did I utter?
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| 4/9/2017 8:29:27 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Ludlow, you lie practically every day in every other post and you blaspheme God/Jesus with your murderous teachings. You have even attempted to excuse the 1,000 year long torturous and murderous inquisition claiming it served to "prefigure" judgment day thereby asserting it was all Gods will. You are a lying shameless reprobate, Ludlow.
Why do you apparently strive to be such a lying reprobate, Ludlow? Are you just so corrupt you don't care? Apparently you are and you do this while preaching hell fire, damnation and eternal torment for unrepentant sinners like yourself.
As I said: You are a sick depraved sinner who makes a mockery of the confessional and blasphemes God/Jesus with your church indoctrinated teachings. You are no more righteous in your heart than Satan who you serve with your depraved teachings about God our Holy Father and you are going to have your reward, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I don't lie. God's punishments? They are all spelled out in the Bible.
God is good and merciful to those repentant souls who love Him, and literally Hell on those unrepentant souls who don't.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are a pathetically sick corrupt man, Ludlow. You don't respond to what I said in my post because you can't deny its truth. And if you weren't so corrupt and had any real relationship with Jesus you would know its utter blasphemous foolishness to assert Jesus would order man to kill people for all those absurd reasons and then torment them in Hell for eternity. Your mind is so corrupt you don't know righteousness from wickedness or like Satan you just don't care, Ludlow.
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freegratis
Irving, TX
50, joined Dec. 2011
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Ludlow, you are a sick, corrupt, wicked minded, sadistic person to assert it was Gods will that your brothers and sisters should be stoned and burnt to death at the stake for these so-called mortal sins...
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
...so that God/Jesus could then cast them into a fiery Hell and torment them for eternity.
You serve Satan not God, Ludlow, and you are going to have your reward.
KB,
Have any sins been committed in your list?
Lud says they are all mortal sins. But are they sins of any type?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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KB,
Have any sins been committed in your list?
Lud says they are all mortal sins. But are they sins of any type?
The sin is in man killing people for these absurd reasons and calling it Gods will. If these were sins worthy of immediate death by the hand of man in the mind of a changeless God we would still be killing people for all these absurd reasons and the world population would be greatly reduced. Who is going to kill billions of people all over the world and bury them? Don't you so-called Christians have left in you any common sense? How can you profess to be a Christian and believe it is righteous and just and that Jesus would order man to kill people for all these absurd reasons?
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| 4/10/2017 12:31:29 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
64, joined Feb. 2008
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KB, how cannkilling people for these offenses be sins, when God Himself commanded the desth penalty for these things? (Keep in mind that Jesus abrogated the Levitical law and that it is no longer God's will that people be executed for these things. Most of them are still mortal sins, however, and if committed could result in punishment in Hell forever.)
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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You are a pathetically sick corrupt man, Ludlow. You don't respond to what I said in my post because you can't deny its truth. And if you weren't so corrupt and had any real relationship with Jesus you would know its utter blasphemous foolishness to assert Jesus would order man to kill people for all those absurd reasons and then torment them in Hell for eternity. Your mind is so corrupt you don't know righteousness from wickedness or like Satan you just don't care, Ludlow.
Show me where God or Moses ordered people be killed for these reasons.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Jesus does far worse than ordering capital punishment for mortal sin in Old Covenant times. Jesus sends thousands of people to Hell for them every day. Jesus made it clear that the path to Hell is broad and the path to Heaven narrow.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are a lying pathetically sick corrupt man, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Do you deny that Jesus said that the way to perdition is broad, and the way of salvation narrow?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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Why should I deny what you haven't shown? What's your point?
Did You Know?
Perdition began life as a word meaning "utter destruction"; that sense is now archaic, but it provides a clue about the origins of the word. "Perdition" was borrowed into English in the 14th century from Anglo-French perdiciun and ultimately derives from the Latin verb perdere, meaning "to destroy." "Perdere" was formed by combining the prefix per- ("through") and "dare" ("to give"). Other descendants of that Latin dare in English include "date," "edition," "render," and "traitor."
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perdition
Ludlow, if you weren't so corrupt and had a real relationship with Jesus you would know its utter blasphemous foolishness to assert Jesus would order man to stone and burn people at the stake for all those absurd reasons and then torment them in Hell for eternity. Your mind is so corrupt you don't know righteousness from wickedness or like Satan you just don't care, Ludlow.
Show me where God or Moses ordered people be killed for these reasons.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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I do have a relationship with Jesus. That's why I believe in what He actually said, not what worldly people wish He said.
The world wants a wimpy Jesus, a soft-spoken young man who forgives all sin, so that tworldly can keep on sinning and still go to Heaven. Let us not be like that. Let us cast off the spirit of this evil world, repent of our sins (which of course means giving them up), and follow Christ.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are PATHETIC, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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KB, do you follow the broad way that leads to perdition, or the narrow way that leads to salvation?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are PATHETIC, Ludlow.
You lie practically every day in every other post and you blaspheme God/Jesus with your murderous teachings. You have even attempted to excuse the 1,000 year long torturous and murderous inquisition claiming it served to "prefigure" judgment day thereby asserting it was all Gods will. You are a lying shameless reprobate, Ludlow.
Why do you apparently strive to be such a lying reprobate, Ludlow? Are you just so corrupt you don't care? Apparently you are and you do this while preaching hell fire, damnation and eternal torment for unrepentant sinners like yourself.
As I said: You are a sick depraved sinner who makes a mockery of the confessional and blasphemes God/Jesus with your church indoctrinated teachings. You are no more righteous in your heart than Satan who you serve with your depraved teachings about God our Holy Father and you are going to have your reward, Ludlow.
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
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Jesus is not the wimpy little marshmallow you think He is, Kb. Jesus sends thousands of people to Hell every day.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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You are a lying pathetically sick corrupt man, Ludlow.
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freegratis
Irving, TX
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The sin is in man killing people for these absurd reasons and calling it Gods will. If these were sins worthy of immediate death by the hand of man in the mind of a changeless God we would still be killing people for all these absurd reasons and the world population would be greatly reduced. Who is going to kill billions of people all over the world and bury them? Don't you so-called Christians have left in you any common sense? How can you profess to be a Christian and believe it is righteous and just and that Jesus would order man to kill people for all these absurd reasons?
"If these were sins worthy of immediate death..."
Are they sins or not?
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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"If these were sins worthy of immediate death..."
Are they sins or not?
I would say most are not - and the few that likely are - is irrelevant to the issue I raise (that these murderous laws are the laws of man not God) which you appear not to want to discuss.
I said: "The sin is in man killing people for these absurd reasons and calling it Gods will. If these were sins worthy of immediate death by the hand of man in the mind of a changeless God we would still be killing people for all these absurd reasons and the world population would be greatly reduced. Who is going to kill billions of people all over the world and bury them? Don't you so-called Christians have left in you any common sense? How can you profess to be a Christian and believe it is righteous and just and that Jesus would order man to kill people for all these absurd reasons?"
So, freegratis, how about responding to what I said and answering my questions.
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freegratis
Irving, TX
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I would say most are not - and the few that likely are - is irrelevant to the issue I raise (that these murderous laws are the laws of man not God) which you appear not to want to discuss.
I said: "The sin is in man killing people for these absurd reasons and calling it Gods will. If these were sins worthy of immediate death by the hand of man in the mind of a changeless God we would still be killing people for all these absurd reasons and the world population would be greatly reduced. Who is going to kill billions of people all over the world and bury them? Don't you so-called Christians have left in you any common sense? How can you profess to be a Christian and believe it is righteous and just and that Jesus would order man to kill people for all these absurd reasons?"
So, freegratis, how about responding to what I said and answering my questions.
If you don't recognize anything on your list as being a sin and the punishment for them, you must be using your personal "I know what's right" standard.
Now we have to back up to, "What is sin?"
Romans 4:15 says "...without the law, there is no transgression".
So it goes back to "what is the final authority". If you are lawless, then I guess you believe that there is nothing that is a sin.
You believe there is a God. Thank God for that. Where does the law of God come from? How can I know about it on planet Earth today?
It is DEFINITELY RELEVANT.
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
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If you don't recognize anything on your list as being a sin and the punishment for them, you must be using your personal "I know what's right" standard.
Now we have to back up to, "What is sin?"
Romans 4:15 says "...without the law, there is no transgression".
So it goes back to "what is the final authority". If you are lawless, then I guess you believe that there is nothing that is a sin.
You believe there is a God. Thank God for that. Where does the law of God come from? How can I know about it on planet Earth today?
It is DEFINITELY RELEVANT.
Where does the law of God come from? How can I know about it on planet Earth today?-freegratis
Jesus sent into the world at Pentecost the Holy Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of the Son, as His Replacement Teacher and if you are not receptive that's your FAULT, freegratis.
Do you actually believe it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for these reasons below?
Do you actually believe in the depth of your soul this is what Jesus (God incarnate) would order man to do?
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
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| 4/13/2017 12:58:31 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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So, freegratis, how about responding to what I said and answering my questions.
I said:
The sin is in man killing people for these absurd reasons and calling it Gods will. If these were sins worthy of immediate death by the hand of man in the mind of a changeless God we would still be killing people for all these absurd reasons and the world population would be greatly reduced. Who is going to kill billions of people all over the world and bury them? Don't you so-called Christians have left in you any common sense? How can you profess to be a Christian and believe it is righteous and just and that Jesus would order man to kill people for all these absurd reasons?
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| 4/13/2017 1:40:22 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
64, joined Feb. 2008
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God's law changed but God Himself did not change.
"The law and the prophets ended with John."
--Jesus (Luke 16:16)
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| 4/13/2017 2:49:33 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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God's law changed but God Himself did not change.
"The law and the prophets ended with John."
--Jesus (Luke 16:16)
God doesn't make mistakes and/or change His mind.
God is not righteous one day and murderous the next.
God does not teach ethical conduct by killing people.
You speak nonsense which reflects badly on your relationship with God.
No surprise there. 
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| 4/13/2017 3:01:00 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
64, joined Feb. 2008
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Why can't God change His Mind? People who change their minds all the time we consider to be indecisive, and rightly so. But to NEVER change one's mind is merely being inflexible and stubborn, and God is certainly not that.
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| 4/13/2017 3:18:58 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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Gods inherent perfection of his divine nature never changes.
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| 4/13/2017 5:55:24 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
64, joined Feb. 2008
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Gods inherent perfection of his divine nature never changes.
That's true, KB, so far as it goes. God Himself is perfect, God's nature is perfect, and has no need of change, and in fact never changes. But God's rules for mankind can change anytime God wants to change them.
Really and truly, though, God decreeing the Levitical law and later repealing it wasn't a change at all. It's what God had planned to do all along. Let's remember that the Levitical law applied to the Jews only, and only to prepare them for the coming of their Messiah. Once He came there was no longer any need for these laws. (The ten commandments, on the other hand, were meant for all peoples, and God has promised never to repeal any of these laws.)
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| 4/13/2017 8:27:52 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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That's true, KB, so far as it goes. God Himself is perfect, God's nature is perfect, and has no need of change, and in fact never changes. But God's rules for mankind can change anytime God wants to change them.
Really and truly, though, God decreeing the Levitical law and later repealing it wasn't a change at all. It's what God had planned to do all along. Let's remember that the Levitical law applied to the Jews only, and only to prepare them for the coming of their Messiah. Once He came there was no longer any need for these laws. (The ten commandments, on the other hand, were meant for all peoples, and God has promised never to repeal any of these laws.)
As you have shown time and time again your mind is WARPED Ludlow. Your assertion that God ordered man to stone and burn people to death at the stake "to prepare them for the coming of their Messiah" teaching love and brotherhood is just as ABSURD as your claim that the thousand year long Catholic horribly torturous and murderous inquisition was to "prefigure judgment day."
God doesn't make mistakes and/or change His mind.
God is not righteous one day and murderous the next.
God does not teach ethical conduct by killing people.
You speak nonsense which reflects badly on your relationship with God.
God is not minded like you and your corrupt and murderous self-serving Catholic church, Ludlow.
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| 4/13/2017 8:31:43 PM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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Again,
Jesus didn't found the Catholic church and He didn't make popes infallible teachers which any sane person should be able to see for it was dozens of popes who taught that it was righteous and just to torture and burn to death at the stake untold thousands of their brethren calling them witches and heretics for a THOUSAND years for as you say because they wouldn't accept the "peace and love" of the Catholic church.
Jesus didn't instruct His followers to unquestionably accept any book later compiled by the RCC. Indeed, Jesus sent into the world the Holy Spirit of truth, the spirit of the son as His REPLACEMENT TEACHER WHICH YOU AND THOSE LIKE YOU REJECT when the voice that speaks within conflicts with church dogma about the book they compiled. And that is exactly why you so-called Christians to this day PRETEND not to know it is horrible inhuman wickedness to stone and burn your brethren to death at the stake if they don't agree with you.
Ludlow, you don't know as you claim that Jesus "sends thousands of people to Hell every day without batting an eye" Ludlow. You don't know or don't care whether actions are righteous or wicked as long as they are attributed to God/Jesus in the book the church compiled. For you and your corrupt church to still be teaching that it was righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for all those absurd reasons and that is what Jesus ordered man to do is nothing but sick inexcusable blasphemous satanic teaching and its utterly despicable that you and your historically murderous Catholic church continue to do so unashamedly.
You and the RCC do Satan's work of deceiving your brethren, Ludlow.
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| 4/13/2017 10:03:38 PM |
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ludlowlowell
Panama City, FL
64, joined Feb. 2008
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Jesus DID found the Catholic Church and God DOES severely punish unrepentant sinners.
Jesus is merciful but He is not a chump. Unrepentant sinners burn in Hell forever. (Just think---all they had to do was repent of their sins.)
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| 4/13/2017 10:49:57 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
74, joined May. 2012
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Ludlow says:
Jesus DID found the Catholic Church and God DOES severely punish unrepentant sinners.
Jesus is merciful but He is not a chump. Unrepentant sinners burn in Hell forever. (Just think---all they had to do was repent of their sins.)
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You are a sick, ignorant Cathlick man, Lud. There is no Hell. It's not even in your new Cathlick bible.
According to Jesus, you don't even love God. Perhaps that's why you publish lies about Him.
He wants to know:
"Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46)
And He says:
"If a man love me, he will keep my words."(John 14:23)
"He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings." (John 14:24)
Tell Jesus why you refuse to obey Him. Just say,
"Jesus, the reason I refuse to keep your words is because..."
And you contradict Jesus as well:
Jesus says:
"...if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: (Matthew 6:14)
But you, Ludlow/Satan contradict Jesus and say: "God forgives repentant sinners only. God does not forgive everyone who forgives others."
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| 4/14/2017 9:37:23 AM |
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freegratis
Irving, TX
50, joined Dec. 2011
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Ludlow says:
Jesus DID found the Catholic Church and God DOES severely punish unrepentant sinners.
Jesus is merciful but He is not a chump. Unrepentant sinners burn in Hell forever. (Just think---all they had to do was repent of their sins.)
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You are a sick, ignorant Cathlick man, Lud. There is no Hell. It's not even in your new Cathlick bible.
According to Jesus, you don't even love God. Perhaps that's why you publish lies about Him.
He wants to know:
"Why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" (Luke 6:46)
And He says:
"If a man love me, he will keep my words."(John 14:23)
"He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings." (John 14:24)
Tell Jesus why you refuse to obey Him. Just say,
"Jesus, the reason I refuse to keep your words is because..."
And you contradict Jesus as well:
Jesus says:
"...if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: (Matthew 6:14)
But you, Ludlow/Satan contradict Jesus and say: "God forgives repentant sinners only. God does not forgive everyone who forgives others."
FJO
Remove this image or I'll ban you so it doesn't appear in any of my topics.
Now reply with your "I don't care what you do" post.
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| 4/14/2017 10:03:55 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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Waiting for your response/answers, freegratis...
Where does the law of God come from? How can I know about it on planet Earth today?-freegratis
Jesus sent into the world at Pentecost the Holy Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of the Son, as His Replacement Teacher and if you are not receptive that's your FAULT, freegratis.
Do you actually believe it is righteous and just to stone and burn people to death at the stake for these reasons below?
Do you actually believe in the depth of your soul this is what Jesus (God incarnate) would order man to do?
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches (Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents (Proverbs 20:20 NAB, Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions (Exodus 22:19 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God (Deuteronomy 13:13-18 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB, Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
Death for Blasphemy (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT, Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die (Romans 1:24-32 NLT)
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle (Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)
Kill Sons of Sinners (Isaiah 14:21 NAB)
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| 4/14/2017 10:04:40 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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So, freegratis, how about responding to what I said and answering my questions.
I said:
The sin is in man killing people for these absurd reasons and calling it Gods will. If these were sins worthy of immediate death by the hand of man in the mind of a changeless God we would still be killing people for all these absurd reasons and the world population would be greatly reduced. Who is going to kill billions of people all over the world and bury them? Don't you so-called Christians have left in you any common sense? How can you profess to be a Christian and believe it is righteous and just and that Jesus would order man to kill people for all these absurd reasons?
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| 4/14/2017 10:58:34 AM |
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freegratis
Irving, TX
50, joined Dec. 2011
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Where does the law of God come from? How can I know about it on planet Earth today?-freegratis
Jesus sent into the world at Pentecost the Holy Spirit of Truth, the Spirit of the Son, as His Replacement Teacher and if you are not receptive that's your FAULT, freegratis.
You claim to know the truth (and possibly the indwelling Holy Spirit). I claim to know the Truth and the indwelling Holy Spirit. Who is right? The standard here on Earth is the God-Breathed-Holy-Scriptures. Not the Urantia Book of comedy and damnation.
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| 4/14/2017 11:43:23 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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You claim to know the truth (and possibly the indwelling Holy Spirit). I claim to know the Truth and the indwelling Holy Spirit. Who is right? The standard here on Earth is the God-Breathed-Holy-Scriptures. Not the Urantia Book of comedy and damnation.
Why don't you stop throwing rocks and "prove" your claim by sincerely responding to my post statements and answering my questions, freegratis?
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| 4/14/2017 4:06:54 PM |
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followjesusonly
Kingman, AZ
74, joined May. 2012
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(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)
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| 4/15/2017 9:51:22 AM |
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kb2222
Jacksonville, FL
76, joined Apr. 2011
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Why don't you stop throwing rocks and "prove" your claim by sincerely responding to my post statements and answering my questions, freegratis?
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