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4/12/2017 2:29:52 AM Are we past the cold war?  

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4/12/2017 6:19:51 AM Are we past the cold war?  

testsignup
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Can't tell what you meant to actually ask.

But The Cold War is a historical sort of media-driven pop name for the period after WW2, during which we had all the symptoms of a war with the Soviet Union, but very little actual shooting, due to the fear of nuclear annihilation.

That is generally said to have "ended" with the fall of the Soviet Union. However, as I in my small way, tried to warn everyone around me, since Communism was NOT the primary danger coming from the USSR, we are not living in a fabulous post-war period after all.

4/12/2017 6:25:14 AM Are we past the cold war?  
Zelda88
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We are in the hot war period, prologue to WW3

4/12/2017 6:30:54 AM Are we past the cold war?  

jinxthejuvy11
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Quote from Zelda88:
We are in the hot war period, prologue to WW3
This wouldn't be hard to believe

4/12/2017 7:39:42 AM Are we past the cold war?  

fishnthec
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We are in the midst of an EGO-war between Donald Trump and Putin.

So, they have certainly found each other's match and alter-ego.

The Sabre rattling will continue until the larger man realizes that there are larger things to consider than their own ego and realizes that they need each others cooperation in solving the Syrian Crisis.

It's going to be a huge challenge for these two Ego-maniacs to work together and stay focused on the real problem.

Russia does not care about the real problem. And that is that 500,000 Syrians are now dead at the hands of a dictator and with the help of a terrorist organization (ISIS) that are using Syria as it's base, and 5 million other Syrians have fled the Country and are now in hideous refugee camps around the globe because of a dictator who wants to stay in power and continue his genocide in what is just another Shiite vs. Sunni vs. ISIS struggle in the Middle East.

Russia's main interest in Syria is that damn boat dock they refer to as their only warm water port in the world and continuing to have Syria as a customer in buying defense system for their country to the tune of Billions of dollars.

America sees there interest in Syria as a worldly cause to fight ISIS and bringing a war criminal to justice for violating War Treaties by killing his own people and displacing millions of their people around the world.

The only way the Syrian crisis is going to end is if the Dictator is brought to justice, ISIS is removed, free elections take place, and the refugees are brought back to their homeland.

If that is realized by both both Russia and America, both of their missions can be accomplished.

4/12/2017 9:07:12 AM Are we past the cold war?  

kraven_morehed
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the 'cold war' never ended....
they just quit talking about it to the media.

4/12/2017 9:32:12 AM Are we past the cold war?  

mr_bad_robot
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The Cold War went from threat of nuclear annihilation to death by trade deficit.

4/12/2017 10:06:17 AM Are we past the cold war?  

longbobby
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It isn't Russia that has invaded, drone struck, or regime changed all those countries. It is the US.

4/12/2017 10:11:37 AM Are we past the cold war?  
cupocheer
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No we are not past the Cold War -- politically.

Russia is posturing

Trump is stupid

4/12/2017 10:52:35 AM Are we past the cold war?  
4uijack
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Quote from cupocheer:
No we are not past the Cold War -- politically.

Russia is posturing

Trump is THE MAN!!!!


Well said, c*nt!!!

4/12/2017 1:01:02 PM Are we past the cold war?  

lobo_corazon
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Tillerson is apparently getting his grizzled ol' butt whooped by the Russian Foreign Minister in Moscow today, after he was sent there with a mandate from the G-7 countries and the White House to "tell Putin he has to choose sides" (i.e. to force Russia to abandon Assad.)

Raise your hand if you believed for one minute that Russia was just going to pull up stakes and leave their influence in the Middle East behind?

If you did, you may be a gulli-bull.

4/12/2017 1:29:51 PM Are we past the cold war?  
condor_0000
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Quote from fishnthec:
We are in the midst of an EGO-war between Donald Trump and Putin.

So, they have certainly found each other's match and alter-ego.

The Sabre rattling will continue until the larger man realizes that there are larger things to consider than their own ego and realizes that they need each others cooperation in solving the Syrian Crisis.

It's going to be a huge challenge for these two Ego-maniacs to work together and stay focused on the real problem.

Russia does not care about the real problem. And that is that 500,000 Syrians are now dead at the hands of a dictator and with the help of a terrorist organization (ISIS) that are using Syria as it's base, and 5 million other Syrians have fled the Country and are now in hideous refugee camps around the globe because of a dictator who wants to stay in power and continue his genocide in what is just another Shiite vs. Sunni vs. ISIS struggle in the Middle East.

Russia's main interest in Syria is that damn boat dock they refer to as their only warm water port in the world and continuing to have Syria as a customer in buying defense system for their country to the tune of Billions of dollars.

America sees there interest in Syria as a worldly cause to fight ISIS and bringing a war criminal to justice for violating War Treaties by killing his own people and displacing millions of their people around the world.

The only way the Syrian crisis is going to end is if the Dictator is brought to justice, ISIS is removed, free elections take place, and the refugees are brought back to their homeland.

If that is realized by both both Russia and America, both of their missions can be accomplished.


Take that shit to the "I Believe in Fairy Tales" forum.

I BELIEVE IN FAIRY TALES
----------------------------------->

4/12/2017 1:40:00 PM Are we past the cold war?  

w6o6l6f_1
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Quote from cupocheer:
No we are not past the Cold War -- politically.

Russia is posturing

Trump is stupid

You seem really smart...
Not.

How do you figure?

4/12/2017 3:20:14 PM Are we past the cold war?  
61falcon
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We seem to be in a brand new one.

4/12/2017 9:56:02 PM Are we past the cold war?  
4uijack
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Go take a cold shower, f*gcum. I know you've got a hard on for the man!

DONALD J TRUMP IS IS IS IS IS THE MAN!!!!!!!

4/13/2017 7:56:52 AM Are we past the cold war?  

lobo_corazon
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Quote from fishnthec:
America sees there interest in Syria as a worldly cause to fight ISIS and bringing a war criminal to justice for violating War Treaties by killing his own people and displacing millions of their people around the world.

No. America takes her marching orders from wealthy corporate interests, who in this case want to run a big pipeline through Syria. Assad has been blocking them from doing so, so he has to go.



[Edited 4/13/2017 7:57:10 AM ]

4/13/2017 8:24:32 AM Are we past the cold war?  

sinceresammy
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Quote from 61falcon:
We seem to be in a brand new one.


One positive we could get rid of your worthless stupid ass.

4/13/2017 8:36:17 AM Are we past the cold war?  

fishnthec
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Quote from lobo_corazon:
No. America takes her marching orders from wealthy corporate interests, who in this case want to run a big pipeline through Syria. Assad has been blocking them from doing so, so he has to go.


I can't speak for Corporate America and the Big Oil companies so drunk on profits that they will never sober up

But I can speak for the average working class citizens, and I see our mission in Syria from a humanitarian perspective, and I bet a majority of Americans will agree with me.

When you have butchers in power like Putin and Assad who continue to defy the World Order and continue a genocide like the one in Syria, the world is going to stand up, work together, and slay the giants!



[Edited 4/13/2017 8:37:00 AM ]

4/13/2017 8:41:13 AM Are we past the cold war?  

fishnthec
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Quote from condor_0000:
Take that shit to the "I Believe in Fairy Tales" forum.

I BELIEVE IN FAIRY TALES
----------------------------------->


Hey that was humorous!

But, I remember once upon a time, that a sleeping giant woke up and went out to slay the monster!

You can't sleep forever!

4/13/2017 8:45:20 AM Are we past the cold war?  

lobo_corazon
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What "genocide" in Syria?

Syria is embroiled in a civil war. Assad is trying to put down a rebellion, fighting against ISIS and other "moderate" groups. Those rebel groups have controlled various cities and towns, making them a target for Syrian and Russian bombs and artillery, resulting on many civilian casualties and many more homeless refugees.

The situation in Syria is terrible, but it's no more like "genocide" than what Israel has been doing in Lebanon for many years.

4/13/2017 9:14:36 AM Are we past the cold war?  

fishnthec
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Quote from lobo_corazon:
What "genocide" in Syria?

Syria is embroiled in a civil war. Assad is trying to put down a rebellion, fighting against ISIS and other "moderate" groups. Those rebel groups have controlled various cities and towns, making them a target for Syrian and Russian bombs and artillery, resulting on many civilian casualties and many more homeless refugees.

The situation in Syria is terrible, but it's no more like "genocide" than what Israel has been doing in Lebanon for many years.


There are many definitions of Genocide according to Wikipedia!

I won't bother to list them. But, you may want to take a look if you want.

But every definition available defines what Putin and Assad are doing in concert is Genocide!

With 500,000 deaths so far in the conflict, it's about time to see the efforts of Putin and Assad in the proper perspective.

4/13/2017 9:29:18 AM Are we past the cold war?  

jitssbaby617
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Quote from fishnthec:
Let's see, I was 27, she was 6 and 1/2 and she lived next door.

I played doctor! She played nurse! So we thoroughly gave each other an examination!

4/15/2017 8:54:51 AM Are we past the cold war?  

testsignup
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Quote from fishnthec:
We are in the midst of an EGO-war between Donald Trump and Putin.

So, they have certainly found each other's match and alter-ego.

The Sabre rattling will continue until the larger man realizes that there are larger things to consider than their own ego and realizes that they need each others cooperation in solving the Syrian Crisis.

It's going to be a huge challenge for these two Ego-maniacs to work together and stay focused on the real problem.

Russia does not care about the real problem. And that is that 500,000 Syrians are now dead at the hands of a dictator and with the help of a terrorist organization (ISIS) that are using Syria as it's base, and 5 million other Syrians have fled the Country and are now in hideous refugee camps around the globe because of a dictator who wants to stay in power and continue his genocide in what is just another Shiite vs. Sunni vs. ISIS struggle in the Middle East.

Russia's main interest in Syria is that damn boat dock they refer to as their only warm water port in the world and continuing to have Syria as a customer in buying defense system for their country to the tune of Billions of dollars.

America sees there interest in Syria as a worldly cause to fight ISIS and bringing a war criminal to justice for violating War Treaties by killing his own people and displacing millions of their people around the world.

The only way the Syrian crisis is going to end is if the Dictator is brought to justice, ISIS is removed, free elections take place, and the refugees are brought back to their homeland.

If that is realized by both both Russia and America, both of their missions can be accomplished.


I have to disagree with you on most of this. You're right, I think, that "Russia doesn't care about the real problem(s)." But I think you've missed on most of the rest of this.

For one thing, the US side of this is a lot more nuanced than you've described. If this was REALLY all about opposing nasty mean-to-their-own-people dictators, we wouldn't have propped up so many other dictators who were mean to their own people, for one. The US has always supported which ever side in a foreign conflict, seemed most likely to cooperate with us in peacetime concerns, especially commercial concerns. That doesn't mean that it's all about capitalism, mind you. We don't like Assad, even though he is also fighting ISIS, because when he isn't at war against his own people, he is helping other people who are fighting us elsewhere.

Russia doesn't give Assad a blank check JUST for the access he provides them, though you're right that that's a lot of it. They also help him for reasons of world prestige, in opposition to American hegemony.

Finally, one thing everyone should have learned by now, is that bringing true democracy to a country in turmoil is NOT a magic solution. Just look at the results in so many of the countries who overthrew their "bad guy" dictator and installed voting: how many in the ME in particular, proceeded to vote in a religious fanatic government, or another strongman type? not to mention, that if you take a deep breath and look at it dispassionately, none of the movements that we most dislike, including the Taliban, ISIS, Al Qaeda, and so on, are being led by foreign invaders. They are all movements built up from the existing people's desires for something other than the arrangements they already have. That's WHY so many new democracies either vote in an extremist, or vote in someone who is ineffective at uniting the country.

I think you're right that the Sunni versus Shiite problem is a big part of this, but if anything, democracy has made that WORSE, rather than better, because whoever wins is always on one of those sides, and opposed to the other; and when they aren't, then BOTH groups want to bring them down, so that they can get back to fighting each other again.

4/15/2017 9:51:28 AM Are we past the cold war?  

stargazzer
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No as the internet is still working

4/15/2017 11:30:42 AM Are we past the cold war?  

lobo_corazon
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Quote from fishnthec:
There are many definitions of Genocide according to Wikipedia!

I won't bother to list them. But, you may want to take a look if you want.

But every definition available defines what Putin and Assad are doing in concert is Genocide!

With 500,000 deaths so far in the conflict, it's about time to see the efforts of Putin and Assad in the proper perspective.

So any war that causes civilian casualties is genocide?

No. Genocide is an effort to wipe out some ethnic group. That is not the situation in Syria. It's "just" a civil war.

The US invasion of Iraq was more of a Genocide than Assad's fight to cling to power in Syria.



[Edited 4/15/2017 11:31:26 AM ]

4/15/2017 1:13:47 PM Are we past the cold war?  
waltree
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The 1st one: Yes! And we were Very, Very, LUCKY to have Survived!

This 2nd ONE!

LUCK RUNS OUT! PUTIN IS And Has BEEN PISSED OFF AT THE WEST for a LONG TIME!

The 2nd COLD WAR WILL TURN "HOT" Mushroom Hot! FAST AND FURIOUS!