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4/20/2017 7:09:26 AM Scientific Evidence Confirms Jesus Has to Return to this World  

a_nubian
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I am posting because Preterism ideology believes that Jesus had already returned in 70 AD or He never left. The article points out that humanity will eventually go extinct on it's own due to genetic mutation and degeneration.

Article:
The Human Race Is Dying: DNA Degeneration Would Eventually Lead To The Total Extinction Of Humanity http://thetruthwins.com/archives/the-human-race-is-dying-dna-degeneration-would-eventually-lead-to-the-total-extinction-of-humanity



Highlights:
The reason that we are heading toward extinction is the increasing number of mutations that are being passed down from generation to generation. According to Dr. John Sanford of Cornell University, every one of us already carries tens of thousands of harmful mutations, and each of us will pass on approximately 100 new mutations to future generations. Humanity is degenerating at an accelerating pace, and at some point the number of mutations will become so great that we will no longer be able to produce viable offspring.

So no, we are not going to “evolve” into bigger and better creatures. Instead, the human race is steadily breaking down and our time is running out.

In essence, the blueprint of human life is being systematically destroyed, and there is not a thing we can do to even significantly slow it down. The following is from a paper by Gerald H. McKibben and Everett C. McKibben…

Well, according to McKibben and McKibben, Dr. Sanford estimates that the human race has a total lifespan of approximately 6,000 years…

[Note: 6000 years; approximately the same timeline of when the world was created...]

The author cites research showing that the human race is currently degenerating at 1 – 2 % per generation due to accumulation of mutations. At a 1% decline in fitness per generation, there is a sharp reduction in fitness after 300 generations (about 6,000 years). One of the most interesting revelations in Genetic Entropy is Dr. Sanford’s and other workers’ analysis of the Biblical account of life expectancies. In a statistical regression analysis of declining life spans since Noah (lived 950 years), after 32 centuries since Noah the life expectancy has declined to about 70. The remarkable aspect is that this curve, which shows a sharp drop-off after Noah and a more gradual decline about 1,000 years ago, is that it is very similar to theoretical curves presented by other researchers that show genetic degeneration. Either Moses faithfully recorded the events (and ages) recorded in Genesis, or he was a skilled statistician who made up data with a remarkable fit to an exponential curve!

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4/20/2017 8:50:56 AM Scientific Evidence Confirms Jesus Has to Return to this World  

bigd9832
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A very interesting view. Thank you. I never thought of that.

It is true. The gene-pool is pretty screwed. We have all but eliminated nature's "survival of the fittest."

Good job.

4/20/2017 8:54:39 AM Scientific Evidence Confirms Jesus Has to Return to this World  

a_nubian
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Quote from bigd9832:
A very interesting view. Thank you. I never thought of that.

It is true. The gene-pool is pretty screwed. We have all but eliminated nature's "survival of the fittest."

Good job.


Thanks Big

4/20/2017 9:35:42 AM Scientific Evidence Confirms Jesus Has to Return to this World  

iam_resurrected
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This new development here, how we are back to being able to communicate like they did around "tower of babel," Israel becoming a nation in 1948, to the awareness of scripture meaning like never before, Trump actually won presidency, and the insane weather pattern this year abnormal to the point of extremely noticeable:

You just know Yahshua is close to returning.

The signs are just enormously being displayed!!

Outside we know 13 days have been almost fulfilled leading us into that final 1 day (1,000 years) New Jerusalem reign.



[Edited 4/20/2017 9:37:12 AM ]

4/20/2017 11:30:42 AM Scientific Evidence Confirms Jesus Has to Return to this World  

isna_la_wica
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Quote from a_nubian:
I am posting because Preterism ideology believes that Jesus had already returned in 70 AD or He never left. The article points out that humanity will eventually go extinct on it's own due to genetic mutation and degeneration.

Article:
The Human Race Is Dying: DNA Degeneration Would Eventually Lead To The Total Extinction Of Humanity http://thetruthwins.com/archives/the-human-race-is-dying-dna-degeneration-would-eventually-lead-to-the-total-extinction-of-humanity



Highlights:
The reason that we are heading toward extinction is the increasing number of mutations that are being passed down from generation to generation. According to Dr. John Sanford of Cornell University, every one of us already carries tens of thousands of harmful mutations, and each of us will pass on approximately 100 new mutations to future generations. Humanity is degenerating at an accelerating pace, and at some point the number of mutations will become so great that we will no longer be able to produce viable offspring.

So no, we are not going to “evolve” into bigger and better creatures. Instead, the human race is steadily breaking down and our time is running out.

In essence, the blueprint of human life is being systematically destroyed, and there is not a thing we can do to even significantly slow it down. The following is from a paper by Gerald H. McKibben and Everett C. McKibben…

Well, according to McKibben and McKibben, Dr. Sanford estimates that the human race has a total lifespan of approximately 6,000 years…

[Note: 6000 years; approximately the same timeline of when the world was created...]

The author cites research showing that the human race is currently degenerating at 1 – 2 % per generation due to accumulation of mutations. At a 1% decline in fitness per generation, there is a sharp reduction in fitness after 300 generations (about 6,000 years). One of the most interesting revelations in Genetic Entropy is Dr. Sanford’s and other workers’ analysis of the Biblical account of life expectancies. In a statistical regression analysis of declining life spans since Noah (lived 950 years), after 32 centuries since Noah the life expectancy has declined to about 70. The remarkable aspect is that this curve, which shows a sharp drop-off after Noah and a more gradual decline about 1,000 years ago, is that it is very similar to theoretical curves presented by other researchers that show genetic degeneration. Either Moses faithfully recorded the events (and ages) recorded in Genesis, or he was a skilled statistician who made up data with a remarkable fit to an exponential curve!

[my insert]


Most SDA I have talked to, accept the trinity, so when the Holy spirit is with us? So is Christ. I understand why the non Trinity followers would say such tings. Are you one of them?

Did he leave us as orphans?

Deuteronomy 31:8 ESV

It is the Lord who goes before you. He will be with you; he will not leave you or forsake you. Do not fear or be dismayed.”

Deuteronomy 31:6 ESV

Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you.”

Hebrews 13:5 ESV

Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

Joshua 1:9 ESV

Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.”

Isaiah 41:10-13 ESV

Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Behold, all who are incensed against you shall be put to shame and confounded; those who strive against you shall be as nothing and shall perish. You shall seek those who contend with you, but you shall not find them; those who war against you shall be as nothing at all. For I, the Lord your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, “Fear not, I am the one who helps you.”

1 Peter 5:7 ESV

Casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.

Hebrews 13:5-6 ESV

Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” So we can confidently say, “The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man do to me?”

Matthew 28:20 ESV

Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

Just saying, you seem to down play the Holy spirit for some reason.



[Edited 4/20/2017 11:31:42 AM ]

4/20/2017 1:02:37 PM Scientific Evidence Confirms Jesus Has to Return to this World  

a_nubian
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Quote from isna_la_wica:
Most SDA I have talked to, accept the trinity, so when the Holy spirit is with us? So is Christ. I understand why the non Trinity followers would say such tings. Are you one of them?

Did he leave us as orphans?

Deuteronomy 31:8 ESV

It is the Lord who goes before you. He will be with you; he will not leave you or forsake you. Do not fear or be dismayed.”

Deuteronomy 31:6 ESV

Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you.”

Hebrews 13:5 ESV

Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.”

Joshua 1:9 ESV

Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be frightened, and do not be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.”

Isaiah 41:10-13 ESV

Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Behold, all who are incensed against you shall be put to shame and confounded; those who strive against you shall be as nothing and shall perish. You shall seek those who contend with you, but you shall not find them; those who war against you shall be as nothing at all. For I, the Lord your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, “Fear not, I am the one who helps you.”

1 Peter 5:7 ESV

Casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.

Hebrews 13:5-6 ESV

Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” So we can confidently say, “The Lord is my helper; I will not fear; what can man do to me?”

Matthew 28:20 ESV

Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

Just saying, you seem to down play the Holy spirit for some reason.

Wasn't down playing anything. I believe in the Trinity. I just don't care to take the time to debate over that issue.

I just provided an article that points out that if humanity continues as is, sooner or later there will be no one left on earth as evidenced by genetic mutation and degradation.

I will provide you a link tp our last SDA Lesson Study quarterly (3 month study December 31, 2016 - March 24, 2017) on the Holy Spirit, so that if you like you can read for yourself how SDA's perceive the Holy Spirit.

Holy Spirit and Spirituality
http://www.ssnet.org/lessons/17a/less01.html
(online)

4/21/2017 7:33:20 PM Scientific Evidence Confirms Jesus Has to Return to this World  

brashdoc
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Interesting studies! Thanks, Nubian!

4/21/2017 8:12:05 PM Scientific Evidence Confirms Jesus Has to Return to this World  

a_nubian
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Quote from brashdoc:
Interesting studies! Thanks, Nubian!



5/30/2017 8:29:15 AM Scientific Evidence Confirms Jesus Has to Return to this World  
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