Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?

5/4/2017 7:01:31 AM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 33, joined Dec. 2012 online now!	What are your thoughts? Republicans feel pretty confident that they will be able to pass the new bill in the house. It will have a tougher time passing the Senate but if it does, Trump will definitely be signing it into law. I think it actually has a chance this time. It allows insurance companies to charge more for older people, and it gives them more money in government subsidies. I always said a replacement would pass if it meant more money for the insurance industry, so let's see what happens. Meet singles at DateHookup.dating, we're 100% free! Join now!
5/4/2017 7:08:06 AM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
wvtravlrr Ravenswood, WV 58, joined Mar. 2013	4May2017 13:00.. Remember that day and time.. Buh bye Obamacare...
5/4/2017 7:10:58 AM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 33, joined Dec. 2012 online now!	Quote from wvtravlrr: 4May2017 13:00.. Remember that day and time.. Buh bye Obamacare... Well, no. It still has to pass the Senate. That vote doesn't happen the same day. But it's possible that it will pass this time. The only part of the bill I can really get behind is getting rid of the individual mandate. Other than that, all the bill really does is allow the insurance industry to rape us while taking more money from the government. I'm not sure how that's a good thing, but whatever.
5/4/2017 7:51:31 AM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
lennyjohn58 Virginia Beach, VA 19, joined Feb. 2015	The day Obamacare is killed and 20 million people lose their healthcare that is the day Dems begin to win back the House and Senate and Trump's numbers nosedive even more.
5/4/2017 9:16:58 AM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
mz_jeannie_baby Rochester, MI 58, joined Sep. 2012	It is, as Pope Pius XI said, a "poisoned spring," not a well, and the life-giving waters that Jesus gives are not for sale on the market.............. ooh no. did I offend someone? Rest EZ on your 2nd amendment rights and just shoot me now. stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
5/4/2017 2:00:29 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
starfox22 Castle Rock, CO 60, joined Jan. 2009	Quote from progrocknic: Well, no. It still has to pass the Senate. That vote doesn't happen the same day. But it's possible that it will pass this time. The only part of the bill I can really get behind is getting rid of the individual mandate. Other than that, all the bill really does is allow the insurance industry to rape us while taking more money from the government. I'm not sure how that's a good thing, but whatever. So far I am not behind this current version and you know I f**king hate obamacare with every ounce of my being. Their method of getting rid of the individual mandate, unless I have been mislead so far it is a red herring. It will actually increase the penalty maybe 5 fold. As I hear it, anyone that goes more than 62 days without coverage will have to pay a 30% rate increase, so if you are 60 years old and your rate for that age category is $750 a month, you would now pay $975 which results in a hell of a lot more "penalty or individual mandate" than we had under Obamacare. I hope I am wrong about this and or that provision gets gutted. But if it stays in I will fight against this law as much as I did against Obama. As a conservative all my efforts to fight it were fruitless because the democrats in charge could care less about my anger because they knew I would never vote for them, but Republicans now will have to listen to people like me.
5/4/2017 2:00:31 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
scarredandtatto Oral, SD 52, joined Aug. 2013	Nooooo, it'll never pass the Senate. They fought the easy fight first to FINALLY put a check in the win column. Now Dumbold Trump has something new to brag about.
5/4/2017 2:20:18 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
sureshot40 Drumright, OK 48, joined Apr. 2011	I hope they will pass something that gets rid of the mandate/fine/tax. After that I'm for a lot from both sides. I see no reason why insurance can't cross state lines, we should be able to buy into Medicare/Medicaid, we should be able to buy any kind of policy with any deductible, with or without coverages of things we need or don't need. Stop all the sue happy lawers and opportunist, just waiting for some drug company to be in a class action law suit. If you are taking meds or getting procedures done you are taking a personal risk and you are just as responsible for anything that goes wrong.
5/4/2017 2:20:53 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
texasproud52 Dallas, TX 57, joined Jul. 2012	May the 4th be with you...
5/4/2017 2:26:37 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
61falcon New Hope, PA 76, joined Feb. 2008	Trump on right now talking about healthcare which he clearly knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT.All this is, is nothing but a huge tax cut for the richest amongst us.WEALTHCARE NOT HEALTHCARE!!!
5/4/2017 2:28:42 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 33, joined Dec. 2012 online now!	Quote from sureshot40: I hope they will pass something that gets rid of the mandate/fine/tax. After that I'm for a lot from both sides. I see no reason why insurance can't cross state lines, we should be able to buy into Medicare/Medicaid, we should be able to buy any kind of policy with any deductible, with or without coverages of things we need or don't need. Stop all the sue happy lawers and opportunist, just waiting for some drug company to be in a class action law suit. If you are taking meds or getting procedures done you are taking a personal risk and you are just as responsible for anything that goes wrong. Insurance is a big part of the problem. We should only need insurance for emergencies/accidents. We shouldn't need insurance for a prescription. Imagine if car insurance was also for general maintenance. An oil change would cost $300. What we need is affordable care and maintenance, and affordable insurance for emergencies. Any proposal other than that is nothing more than a handout for a collection of corporations.
5/4/2017 2:39:05 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
cinnamonnhaze Minneapolis, MN 53, joined Apr. 2014	Good thing I've never been treated for depression or it may have been a pre existing condition. If we have to endure 4(???) years of this cumquat I may have to be on an anti depressant. I hope they're fun!!! w6o6 should know since he's familiar with the whole heroin/opioid thing.
5/4/2017 2:51:33 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
61falcon New Hope, PA 76, joined Feb. 2008	We should all have one comprehensive insurance that covers everything cradle to grave.Having a multitude of different policies with different coverages and deductibles just adds cost having to design and print a multitude of different policies.Keep it simple stupid!!
5/4/2017 2:53:56 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
61falcon New Hope, PA 76, joined Feb. 2008	The Returdlickers just voted on a bill and the nations healthcare, not knowing what they are voting on,how much it will cost who it excludes or severely penalizes.They know nothing!!
5/4/2017 3:43:18 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	I found this vote very interesting today. For all the bluster of Democrats they voted today, and not one single Nay vote from a even 1 Dem, to include themselves in Healthcare reform. This is on the back of a Congress who voted overwhelming to exclude themselves from Obamacare as well. These are public servants who exclude themselves from what they legislatively impose upon you. Think about that for a minute.
5/4/2017 3:47:48 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
scarredandtatto Oral, SD 52, joined Aug. 2013	your stupidity amazes me sometimes, sillyb*tch. OF COURSE dems didn't support that shit, IT'S SHIT! And it's not on congress, it's on the right and the bill is shit! I can't wait till recess!
5/4/2017 3:48:12 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	Correction, not one single Yea vote to include themselves in Healthcare reform, not even 1.
5/4/2017 3:50:20 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
scarredandtatto Oral, SD 52, joined Aug. 2013	You expected someone on the left tossupport it?
5/4/2017 4:14:12 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	It's rather interesting Scar, any way I write this it sounds wrong. But let me get over the hump. The point is the legislative body proposes laws, the president signs it into law, and the point is, whether it was Obamacare or the Healthcare reform proposal now on the table, our public servants purposely exclude themselves from the laws they eventually impose on the 350 million of the rest of us they make subject to their laws. Did you watch the vote today? I doubt it and you NBC will never mention the vote as it's not in their liberal progressive agenda interests to do so. 429 or so to 0, yep, zero, to exclude themselves from a proposed law they passed and wish to impose on 350 million others. I find that rather interesting.
5/4/2017 4:24:54 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
scarredandtatto Oral, SD 52, joined Aug. 2013	I find it interesting that that is new news to you.
5/4/2017 4:31:57 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
muldoon1959 Vallejo, CA 58, joined Feb. 2008	Ever notice how they blame congress as a whole whenever the republicans f**k them over?
5/4/2017 4:32:35 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
herc117 Warren, IN 56, joined Dec. 2016 online now!	more money is good.
5/4/2017 4:33:34 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
trackker Vancouver, WA 35, joined May. 2014	Quote from lennyjohn58: The day Obamacare is killed and 20 million people lose their healthcare that is the day Dems begin to win back the House and Senate and Trump's numbers nosedive even more. Insurance companies couldn't afford to keep running like this, reason why eventually no one would have coverage you stupid f**k.
5/4/2017 4:36:58 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
muldoon1959 Vallejo, CA 58, joined Feb. 2008	Yeah, they must be going broke with all these record profits. F**king Obamacare anyway.
5/4/2017 5:02:02 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 33, joined Dec. 2012 online now!	Quote from trackker: Insurance companies couldn't afford to keep running like this, Then why are they reporting record profits? If the insurance industry couldn't have afforded the ACA, they wouldn't have pushed congress to pass it, and to pass it without a public option. I can assure you they love the ACA.
5/4/2017 5:08:33 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
naprinciple West Plains, MO 48, joined Feb. 2014	I believe the ACA is a payoff for insurance companies. Their obscene profits will all dry up when they replace it with single payer. The ACA was designed to fail.
5/4/2017 5:17:57 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	Scar, what's interesting is that democrats, whether it was Obamacare or this healthcare bill, for all the bluster on TV interviews, repeatedly have purposely carved out exclusions for themselves. If I remember correctly it was Obama who would sign an appropriations bill, a continuing CR a couple of years back and shut down the Gov't because Congress did not agree to exempt Federal employees from Obamacare. Yes, I remember things you would like to forget about as such facts do not support your liberal progressive (socialist/communist) agenda. Socialism/Communism has been around since the beginning of even the smallest societies. And it's very clear that such a philosophy has created the greatest pain and suffering of the masses the world has ever known for most all of human history. Now here the likes of you come again. Quote from scarredandtatto: I find it interesting that that is new news to you.
5/4/2017 5:21:14 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	Just look at the stock prices of healthcare companies under Obamacare, they skyrocketing. Now if Obama really attacked the healthcare companies on price gouging what would expect their stock prices to do. btw, Goldman Sachs just paid him $400K to give a speech. I'm going to side with Lizzy on that one, lying a** con man. Quote from naprinciple: I believe the ACA is a payoff for insurance companies. Their obscene profits will all dry up when they replace it with single payer. The ACA was designed to fail.
5/4/2017 6:01:58 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
trackker Vancouver, WA 35, joined May. 2014	Quote from muldoon1959: Yeah, they must be going broke with all these record profits. F**king Obamacare anyway. Record profits? Now, there’s no denying it. The four biggest U.S. health insurers admit they’re each losing hundreds of millions of dollars on their Obamacare plans. Rather than expand coverage, many are pulling out of the exchanges that were set up by the ACA so people can shop for insurance plans, often with the help of government subsidies. UnitedHealth expects to lose $850 million on Obamacare in 2016, while Aetna, Anthem, and Humana are all on track to lose at least $300 million each on their ACA plans this year, according to company reports and estimates from Bloomberg Intelligence. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-17/obamacare-s-in-trouble-as-insurers-tire-of-losing-money
5/4/2017 6:10:12 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
61falcon New Hope, PA 76, joined Feb. 2008	This Returdlicker proposal will affect company provided health insurance as well,don't know exactly how because we have yet to see any details.
5/4/2017 6:19:14 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	falcon, do you eat cinnabuns everyday day..do you have diabetes? Frankly, I have no idea if you do or not, but what do you say to those who do? That your condition is a function of your individual decisions day in and day out, or that society at large must pay for your selfish eating habits? I will avoid the topic of having sex for now.
5/4/2017 6:21:18 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	falcon what options do Iowans have now after 7 years of Obamacare? Quote from 61falcon: This Returdlicker proposal will affect company provided health insurance as well,don't know exactly how because we have yet to see any details.
5/4/2017 6:23:51 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
cinnamonnhaze Minneapolis, MN 53, joined Apr. 2014	Jilly, it's ok to be a virgin. It can be a good thing - if you meet a woman who wants a fumbling bumbling newbie under the sheets.
5/4/2017 6:31:11 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	I see, your argument now is that only virgins frequent planned parenthood? That's about a stupid as a response I come up with right now given your stupid comment. Quote from cinnamonnhaze: Jilly, it's ok to be a virgin. It can be a good thing - if you meet a woman who wants a fumbling bumbling newbie under the sheets.
5/4/2017 6:42:38 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
cinnamonnhaze Minneapolis, MN 53, joined Apr. 2014	Wow, that one flew right over your head - again. There's nothing in my post referring to Planned Parenthood, but I did mention your name.....
5/4/2017 6:56:23 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	I don't think so buns. Seems to me your looking for an excuse for your own behaviours, and transferring your ideas onto others. Hence the Planned Parenthood reference. Why else would get an abortion if you're not a virgin?
5/5/2017 10:32:10 AM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
cinnamonnhaze Minneapolis, MN 53, joined Apr. 2014	Many many "conservatives" were against the "repeal & replace" because they are recipients of the ACA. For all of you that aren't aware of what it is that you're cheering on (much like your congress who never read the bill), here's just a short list of how your "yay" votes will shorten your little lives (or at least make you suffer through them): 50 Health Issues That Count as a Pre-existing Condition The Republican plan to repeal and replace the the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which narrowly passed a vote in the House today, rolls back protections for people with pre-existing conditions, which could increase health care costs for an estimated 130 million Americans. The American Health Care Act stipulates that states can allow insurers to charge people with pre-existing conditions more for health insurance (which is banned under the ACA) if the states meet certain conditions, such as setting up high-risk insurance pools. Insurers still cannot deny people coverage outright, as was a common practice before the ACA’s passage, but they can hike up premiums to an unaffordable amount, effectively pricing people out of the market. In fact, premiums could reach as high as $25,700 per year for people in high-risk pools, according to a report from AARP. People who receive insurance through their employer would not be affected, unless they lost their job or moved to the individual insurance market for some other reason. But what counts as a pre-existing condition? While it depends on the insurer—they have the right to choose what counts as “pre-existing”—these ailments and conditions were universally used to deny people coverage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonprofit focusing on health care research. AIDS/HIV Alcohol or drug abuse with recent treatment Alzheimer’s/dementia Anorexia Arthritis Bulimia Cancer Cerebral palsy Congestive heart failure Coronary artery/heart disease, bypass surgery Crohn’s disease Diabetes Epilepsy Hemophilia Hepatitis Kidney disease, renal failure Lupus Mental disorders (including Anxiety, Bipolar Disorder, Depression, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Schizophrenia) Multiple sclerosis Muscular dystrophy Obesity Organ transplant Paraplegia Paralysis Parkinson’s disease Pending surgery or hospitalization Pneumocystic pneumonia Pregnancy or expectant parent (includes men) Sleep apnea Stroke Transsexualism Good luck!!!
5/5/2017 10:35:32 AM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 33, joined Dec. 2012 online now!	I noticed the list was missing being a rape victim. Yeah, turns out that's also going to be a preexisting condition.
5/5/2017 11:04:16 AM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
cinnamonnhaze Minneapolis, MN 53, joined Apr. 2014	How can most of these be pre-existing? They better hurry up & pass a bill for all pregnancies to require an amniocentesis to determine any & all genetic problems & then demand those women have mandatory abortions. That's pretty much what they're saying.
5/5/2017 1:27:00 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
fellowforyou New York, NY 67, joined Jan. 2010	Stupidity travels with bad company.
5/5/2017 1:48:51 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
scarredandtatto Oral, SD 52, joined Aug. 2013	Ehhhhf**k um. If the poor can't afford it, the don't deserve it. They should have been born richer.
5/5/2017 9:04:45 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
wvtravlrr Ravenswood, WV 58, joined Mar. 2013	Can anyone prove to me of a time when they walked into a Public Hospital and were denied care....... Ever???? Even when you were dead broke and homeless...just 1.... I'll wait.... They wrote it off at the end of the year... On the Taxpayers dime.... Now...Big Medicine,,,Big Pharma and these conglomerate helthcare corporations are getting thier payback..... Government funded healthcare.. The biggest transfer of money since.....well ever.. [Edited 5/5/2017 9:05:39 PM ]
5/5/2017 9:07:15 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
wvtravlrr Ravenswood, WV 58, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from wvtravlrr: Can anyone prove to me of a time when they walked into a Public Hospital and were denied care....... Ever???? Even when you were dead broke and homeless...just 1.... I'll wait.... They wrote it off at the end of the year... On the Taxpayers dime.... Now...Big Medicine,,,Big Pharma and these conglomerate helthcare corporations are getting thier payback..... Government funded healthcare.. The biggest transfer of money since.....well ever.. Follow the money....look where politicians families are investing....
5/5/2017 9:11:41 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 33, joined Dec. 2012 online now!	Quote from wvtravlrr: Government funded healthcare.. We don't have that in this country.
5/5/2017 9:15:06 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	Pardon me. What did people do for health coverage before the ACA became law? (excluding Medicare & social medical care)? Seems as if I carried BC/BS coverage for about 35 years before Medicare kicked in. First they complained about paying for the coverage. Now they are complaining about not having the coverage. hmmmmm.... Dayum ObamaCare -- I'm going to buy my own full premium health insurance coverage.
5/5/2017 9:22:49 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
wvtravlrr Ravenswood, WV 58, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from progrocknic: We don't have that in this country. 8 billion dollar pool to cover pre- existing conditions.... Government funded healthcare..
5/5/2017 9:23:38 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 33, joined Dec. 2012 online now!	Quote from wvtravlrr: 8 billion dollar pool to cover pre- existing conditions.... Government funded healthcare.. If you think 8 billion dollars is government funded healthcare, you might be smoking stronger shit than me.
5/5/2017 9:23:58 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
nycman530 New York, NY 64, joined Dec. 2010	So millions are suddenly worried about losing their insurance while millions have already lost their insurance due to the ACA?
5/5/2017 9:24:41 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
wvtravlrr Ravenswood, WV 58, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from progrocknic: If you think 8 billion dollars is government funded healthcare, you might be smoking stronger shit than me. Oh.....so the Easter Bunny put it there.... I see......
5/5/2017 9:28:07 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
progrocknic Mount Arlington, NJ 33, joined Dec. 2012 online now!	Quote from wvtravlrr: Oh.....so the Easter Bunny put it there.... I see...... So you think 8 billion dollars covers healthcare for all do you? Don't get me wrong, I don't approve of the 8 billion, but I wouldn't call it government funded healthcare. Especially since the money goes towards insurance companies, not hospitals or treatment, or anything of the sort.
5/5/2017 9:34:52 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
muldoon1959 Vallejo, CA 58, joined Feb. 2008	Quote from nycman530: So millions are suddenly worried about losing their insurance while millions have already lost their insurance due to the ACA? What are you lying about this time?
5/5/2017 9:35:34 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
wvtravlrr Ravenswood, WV 58, joined Mar. 2013	Quote from progrocknic: Quote from wvtravlrr: Oh.....so the Easter Bunny put it there.... I see...... So you think 8 billion dollars covers healthcare for all do you? Don't get me wrong, I don't approve of the 8 billion, but I wouldn't call it government funded healthcare. Especially since the money goes towards insurance companies, not hospitals or treatment, or anything of the sort. First off...I buy my own.. BC&BS... And what they dont cover I pay myself..thru a flexible spending plan.. The perverbial foot is in the door.. Next will come sales taxes on anything that may cause injury..bicycles..motorcycles. ...cars..your electric bill.. The list is endless... Shocking isnt it..
5/5/2017 9:36:08 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
viper1e Jeannette, PA 59, joined Dec. 2013	Quote from progrocknic: What are your thoughts? Republicans feel pretty confident that they will be able to pass the new bill in the house. It will have a tougher time passing the Senate but if it does, Trump will definitely be signing it into law. I think it actually has a chance this time. It allows insurance companies to charge more for older people, and it gives them more money in government subsidies. I always said a replacement would pass if it meant more money for the insurance industry, so let's see what happens. The Senate has already said the bill is DOA.
5/5/2017 9:50:36 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010
5/5/2017 10:12:39 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
cinnamonnhaze Minneapolis, MN 53, joined Apr. 2014	Quote from progrocknic: If you think 8 billion dollars is government funded healthcare, you might be smoking stronger shit than me. L O L ! He's just a fat dumfuk that will either die from a stroke, diabetes or chocking on a KFC bone (cuz he can't swallow Donnie's). RIP, WV. And rest assured, they now make "super sized" coffins. Hope they charge for a "super sized" plot. May I suggest creamation with a "super sized" urn.
5/5/2017 10:14:33 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
scarredandtatto Oral, SD 52, joined Aug. 2013	No need for a "super size" urn, shit burns. There wouldn't be much left.
5/5/2017 10:24:08 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
cinnamonnhaze Minneapolis, MN 53, joined Apr. 2014	True. But unlike manure his vile bile wouldn't make good fertilizer.
5/6/2017 1:29:02 PM	Will a repeal and replace be successful this time?
jillybodob Naperville, IL 27, joined Jul. 2013	What good is insurance if it never pays? Ever go to the doctor, you get bills in the mail from everybody and their grandmother. You are never told upfront who is going to bill you and how much they are going to charge you. This has to change. Quote from nycman530: So millions are suddenly worried about losing their insurance while millions have already lost their insurance due to the ACA?

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