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condor_0000
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What would Jesus do? Would Jesus be BFFs with the Saudi and Israeli ruling-classes? Or would they both be Satan's BFFs?
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Trump in the Middle East
By Robert Fisk
May 23, 2017
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47119.htm
In Riyadh, Trump couldn’t mention where most of the the 9/11 hijackers came from or whose Sunni cult-faith was the inspiration for Isis – nor which country chopped off heads with Isis-like relish. (Answer: Saudi Arabia). And when he arrived in Israel on Monday, Trump was faced with a new censorship protocol: don’t mention who was occupying whose property in the West Bank or which country was outrageously and continuously stealing land – legally owned by Arabs – for Jews and Jews only. (Answer: Israel).
So bingo, in the biggest Middle East alliance ever created in history, the Saudis and the other Sunni Arab dictators and America’s crackpot President and Israel’s cynical Prime Minister have all agreed on the identity of the devil country they can all curse with one voice, inspirer of “world terror”, instigator of Middle East instability, the greatest threat to world peace: Shia Iran.
So within a few minutes of landing at Tel Aviv airport – part of whose runways actually lies on land legally owned by Palestinian Arabs 60 years ago – the Trump speechwriters (for Trump surely cannot write this stuff) were churning out once more their hatred of Iran, of Iran’s “terror”, of Iran’s plots, of Iran’s continuing desire to make a nuclear bomb. And all this when Iran has just re-elected a sane president who actually signed the nuclear agreement two years ago that substantially reduced Iran’s strategic threat to Israel, the Arabs and America.
“Iran must never be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon,” said the US commander-in-chief. Iran “must cease its deadly [sic] funding, training and equipping of terrorists and militias.” A Martian who might also have landed at Tel Aviv at the same time would surely conclude that Iran was the creator of Isis and that Israel was already bombing the cruel and violent cultists of the Islamic caliphate. And Martians – surely smarter than the US President – would thus be much amazed to discover that Israel has been bombing the Iranians and the Syrians and their militias, but has not once – ever – bombed Isis.
No wonder Trump tried to stick to his prepared script. Otherwise he might do something sane. Like congratulate Iran’s new president on his electoral victory and for promising to stick to the nuclear agreement; like demanding an end to Israeli occupation and Israeli colonisation of Arab land; like telling the tired old dictators and princes of the Arab world that the only way they can rid themselves – and America – of “terror” is by treating their people with dignity and safeguarding their human rights. But no, that’s far too sensible and fair and just and moral – and far too complicated -- for a man who long ago fell off the edge of reality and entered Twitterworld. So there he was talking of the “ultimate deal” between Israel and the Palestinians – as if peace was just a commodity to be bought or sold. Like the one he’d just fixed in Saudi Arabia: guns for oil and dollars.
But then, sitting next to Netanyahu, the guy did go off script. To the relief of all, he returned to the horrors of the nuclear agreement with Iran, the deal that was “unbelievable”, a “terrible thing” which the US had entered into. “We gave them a lifeline – and we also gave them the ability to continue with terror.” The threat of Iran, he told Netanyahu, “has forced people [sic] together in a very positive way.”
This was truly “unbelievable”. Trump, in his weird innocence, believes that the Sunni Muslim world’s desire to destroy Shia Iran and its allies is the key to Arab-Israeli peace. Maybe that’s what he meant – if he meant anything – when he said that his visit marked “a rare opportunity to bring security and peace to this region, to its people, defeating terrorism and creating future harmony and peace” – that bit was in the script, by the way – in what he called “this ancient and sacred land”. He meant Israel, but he used the same phrase about Saudi Arabia and would no doubt do so about Switzerland, Lesotho or, well, North Korea if it brought any advantage. Or Iran, for that matter.
Who knows if Trump’s going to be able to face up to Jewish colonisation, land theft and Palestine’s own little dictator when he meets Mahmoud Abbas on Tuesday. Or human rights. Or justice. His speech in the Israel Museum afterwards is going to be a humdinger if he wanders off script. But bets are closed on the content: the unity of Sunni Arabs in their hatred of Shia Iran – he’ll mercifully leave out the “Sunni” and “Shia” bits in case this gives the game away – the closer relations between the Gulf dictators and their princes with land-grabbing Israel, the need for Palestinians to end “terror” against their occupiers – the word “occupiers” must also be left out, of course – and America’s eternal, unending, sacred love for Israel right or wrong.
On Sunday, CNN headlined a “reset” with the Arabs. On Monday, the BBC headlined a “reset” with Israel. What they both meant – but dared not say – is that Trump thinks he can get the Arabs and Israel to destroy the power of Iran after the horrid, moral years of Obama. That means “war”, preferably between Muslims. The “ultimate deal”, indeed.
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bumblebee7
Fort Payne, AL
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I think people who are totally miserable like you are, who constantly digs things up that makes them even more miserable...shouldn't try to spread that misery on to the world and other people.
Then have the nerve to point at others in criticism.
Condor, your brain is warped from your involvement with the hate whitey churches and the proliferations of the liberal party that drags you down to feel sorry for yourself, just to capture your support and votes to the point, there is no hope for you.
If you want to contribute to a better world, the only way is to climb up the 100 stories to the top of a tall skyscraper and jump off....and while your at it...take anyone like yourself with you.
I'll make sure your contribution is duly noted.
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vanilla_cream2
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iam_resurrected
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Nope, He would be bffs with those who do not believe in Him!!
those looking other directions for the correct way are the people that Christ would be hanging with.
and He would not be like their other friends and do them wrong.
like a backstabbing b*tch like you, Opie 
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Olaf_the_german
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Well if you believe his teachings then yes, possibly. He was willing to love and forgive everyone who wanted that forgiveness and love.
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iam_resurrected
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Well if you believe his teachings then yes, possibly. He was willing to love and forgive everyone who wanted that forgiveness and love.
he loved them when they did not believe and died for them even though they won't believe.
that is what ya call one hell of damn good friend!!
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vanilla_cream2
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Olaf_the_german
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he loved them when they did not believe and died for them even though they won't believe.
that is what ya call one hell of damn good friend!!
I'd have been happy if he bought me a pint, no need for all the torture and dying.
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iam_resurrected
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no doubt He would had bought the entire house a few rounds (water into wine). it was His style while on earth.
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iam_resurrected
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he only argued with the religious Jews and was best friends to everyone else including the religious' enemies.
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mylegsarecold
Gainesville, FL
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He wouldn't do a God damned thing. He was a pacifist who things
people should just take it up the ass, be kind to your neighbors
and wash is smelly feet.
God on the other hand would tell you to bash thy enemy babies heads in
on the rocks down by the river.
At least according to the stories in the bible.
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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he loved them when they did not believe and died for them even though they won't believe.
that is what ya call one hell of damn good friend!!
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Adding to...
She's mizgal sooooooooooooo in tune with my thoughts
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iam_resurrected
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He wouldn't do a God damned thing. He was a pacifist who things
people should just take it up the ass, be kind to your neighbors
and wash is smelly feet.
God on the other hand would tell you to bash thy enemy babies heads in
on the rocks down by the river.
At least according to the stories in the bible.
Christ did bash the religious peeps in the head. why do you think they wanted Him dead? they wanted war but he wanted to involve people outside the Jews first, before there will be war. Don't ya worry frog, war is a coming 
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condor_0000
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Well if you believe his teachings then yes, possibly. He was willing to love and forgive everyone who wanted that forgiveness and love.
So, what about you? Do you want the love of the socialist, Jesus?
How about you Vanilla_cream_in_my-jeans? Do you want the love of the socialist, Jesus?
And how about you Iam_af**kingreligiousnutbag? Do you desperately want the love of the socialist, Jesus?
And if so, why? Why do you right-wing capitalists so desperately want the socialist, Jesus, to love you?
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mylegsarecold
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What do you mean war is coming? We been at war for 15 1/2 years already.
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cupocheer
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Jesus, himself, told anyone who reads what he said what he would do.
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4uijack
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So, what about you? Do you want the love of the socialist, Jesus?
How about you Vanilla_cream_in_my-jeans? Do you want the love of the socialist, Jesus?
And how about you Iam_af**kingreligiousnutbag? Do you desperately want the love of the socialist, Jesus?
And if so, why? Why do you right-wing capitalists so desperately want the socialist, Jesus, to love you?
C*nt, will you please kill yourself!!!!
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mylegsarecold
Gainesville, FL
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Jesus, himself, told anyone who reads what he said what he would do.
That's nonsense since hardly any followers could read then.
Stop making stuff up.
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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And how about you Iam_af**kingreligiousnutbag? Do you desperately want the love of the socialist, Jesus?
first, let us take a moment and consider where this capitalist idea stems from. it seems from you, Op. And i know you as a complete moron, would not be able to evaluate the difference between popping a pimple on your a** versus a zit on your face. let alone, evaluating Christ!!
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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Congratulations mizgal,
We did this same SHIT
In 2015 with will the Confederate flag come down and u copied me
Poster photo discovered u were mizgal
Now yesssssssss humans will come post to ur copy paste
BUT MIZGAL Y COPY PASTE
Y NOT SHED LIGHT ON JESUS
TRUE {ACCOLADESas if he needs u too
Z
Reach ur evilness off my goodness it works
Z
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Olaf_the_german
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Jesus, himself, told anyone who reads what he said what he would do.
How do you know what Jesus said? was you there? or are you just going by what you read he ALLEGEDLY said...
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4uijack
New Port Richey, FL
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Jesus, himself, told anyone who reads what he said what he would do.
How do you know what Jesus said? was you there? or are you just going by what you read he ALLEGEDLY said...
So, I take it you've never read a history book either? 
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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That's nonsense since hardly any followers could read then.
Stop making stuff up.
she is not.
if you take in consideration the scrolls themselves from the old testament to the new, there is evidence of how the scrolls were made. these methods are specific to actual dates as far back as 3,000 AD where hand written Hebrew was inscribed on scroll parchments. there are 3 specific scroll methods that indicate progression or better ways to make the scrolls.
so, these sheep herders were educated and had knowledge equal to what we have today outside cutting down a tree.
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condor_0000
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C*nt, will you please kill yourself!!!!
Does the socialist, Jesus, approve of right-wingers attacking his fellow socialists?
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
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Nope, He would be bffs with those who do not believe in Him!!
those looking other directions for the correct way are the people that Christ would be hanging with.
and He would not be like their other friends and do them wrong.
like a backstabbing b*tch like you, Opie
Are right-wing Christians just fooling themselves? Do they really believe that they can do all the raping, looting, warring, destroying, killing, stealing, and ravaging of the Earth that they want and as long as they declare that Jesus is their lord and savior they will go to Heaven rather than be thrust into Hell where they rightfully belong?
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4uijack
New Port Richey, FL
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Hey condom, thou shall not covet!!
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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Are right-wing Christians just fooling themselves? Do they really believe that they can do all the raping, looting, warring, destroying, killing, stealing, and ravaging of the Earth that they want and as long as they declare that Jesus is their lord and savior they will go to Heaven rather than be thrust into Hell where they rightfully belong?
Right Wing religious zealots are nothing that could possibly ever represent Yahshua. what you see in Congress is much like what Yahshua saw with the religious Jews.
it's a complete den of thieves.
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stanleyzee
Dayton, OH
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OK it's history
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
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OK it's history
So, what do you think? Would Jesus have partnered up with the evil Saudi and Israeli ruling-classes or is that something one might expect of Satan?
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M4mischief
Grand Prairie, TX
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No...he woulda tipped their desks over in anger and told them to get out of the temple...errrr...office and called the Pharisees.....
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4uijack
New Port Richey, FL
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Condom, Shut up, stupid!!!!
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M4mischief
Grand Prairie, TX
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nvm.....
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mylegsarecold
Gainesville, FL
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she is not.
if you take in consideration the scrolls themselves from the old testament to the new, there is evidence of how the scrolls were made. these methods are specific to actual dates as far back as 3,000 AD where hand written Hebrew was inscribed on scroll parchments. there are 3 specific scroll methods that indicate progression or better ways to make the scrolls.
so, these sheep herders were educated and had knowledge equal to what we have today outside cutting down a tree.
Scribe wrote the scrolls, they and only mostly wealthy people could read them.
The wealthy is who commission them in the first place.
One of the fears about people owning and reading their own bibles was that
they would no longer need the church to teach them, and that became true.
They self educated themselves and a growing number started question what
the preachers where preaching them.
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condor_0000
Tampa, FL
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Scribe wrote scribes, they and only mostly wealthy people could read them.
One of the fears about people owning and reading their own bibles was that
they would no longer need the church to teach them, and that became true.
They self educated themselves and a growing number started question what
the preachers where preaching them.
Uh oh! That's dangerously close to explaining why right-wing capitalists love the socialist, Jesus. Don't you ruin my fun here! Don't do it! I mean it! Don't make me angry! You won't like me when I'm angry!
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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Scribe wrote the scrolls, they and only mostly wealthy people could read them.
The wealthy is who commission them in the first place.
One of the fears about people owning and reading their own bibles was that
they would no longer need the church to teach them, and that became true.
They self educated themselves and a growing number started question what
the preachers where preaching them.
scribes are like printing machines just copy paste of what was already written.
get your facts straight or add some knowledge.
scripture was available for all to come and see and read for themselves around 50 AD. old testament was already here and before Christ no one had access to the scriptures. that changed with Christ and people were able to demand a way to read and be near scripture.
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mylegsarecold
Gainesville, FL
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Monarchists are not capitalists.
A capitalist can't make money off of serfs.
A captiatist would want to create a huge middle class, people that work
for them, then those same people turn around and buy all their stuff from
the same capitalist. It is a good scheme all around.
Better than any others out there. 
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mylegsarecold
Gainesville, FL
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scribes are like printing machines just copy paste of what was already written.
get your facts straight or add some knowledge.
scripture was available for all to come and see and read for themselves around 50 AD. old testament was already here and before Christ no one had access to the scriptures. that changed with Christ and people were able to demand a way to read and be near scripture.
And just how many copies did they make of the original?
If the people can't obtain anything to read then they can't read anything
hence there is no need to read ffs.
Same thing happens today if you don't give your children any books.
They won't read later in life, they will rely on others to read for
them which makes them dependent on others for their knowledge. Which
makes them more susceptible to falsities.
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condor_0000
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scribes are like printing machines just copy paste of what was already written.
get your facts straight or add some knowledge.
scripture was available for all to come and see and read for themselves around 50 AD. old testament was already here and before Christ no one had access to the scriptures. that changed with Christ and people were able to demand a way to read and be near scripture.
Yep! Jesus invented the printing press and mass-distribution channels. Wait a minute! What?
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condor_0000
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A capitalist can't make money off of serfs.
A captiatist would want to create a huge middle class, people that work
for them, then those same people turn around and buy all their stuff from
the same capitalist. It is a good scheme all around.
And that explains why capitalists are always trying to export our better-paying jobs to slave-waged locations around the world. That explains why capitalists fight tooth and nail against increasing the minimum wage. That explains why capitalists become giddy over job-destroying mergers and acquisitions.
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Capitalism's Ideal Workplace is the Prison
Boycott, Divest and Sanction Corporations That Feed on Prisons
By Chris Hedges
April 06, 2015
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41455.htm
Excerpts:
All attempts to reform mass incarceration through the traditional mechanisms of electoral politics, the courts and state and federal legislatures are useless. Corporations, which have turned mass incarceration into a huge revenue stream and which have unchecked political and economic power, have no intention of diminishing their profits. And in a system where money has replaced the vote, where corporate lobbyists write legislation and the laws, where chronic unemployment and underemployment, along with inadequate public transportation, sever people in marginal communities from jobs, and where the courts are a wholly owned subsidiary of the corporate state, this demands a sustained, nationwide revolt.
Former prisoners and prisoners’ relatives—suffering along with the incarcerated under the weight of one of the most exploitative, physically abusive and largest prison systems in the world, frustrated and enraged by the walls that corporations have set in place to stymie rational judicial reform—joined human rights advocates at the church to organize state and nationwide boycotts inside and outside prisons. These boycotts, they said, will be directed against the private phone, money transfer and commissary companies, and against the dozens of corporations that exploit prison labor. The boycotts will target food and merchandise vendors, construction companies, laundry services, uniforms companies, prison equipment vendors, cafeteria services, manufacturers of pepper spray, body armor and the array of medieval instruments used for the physical control of prisoners, and a host of other contractors that profit from mass incarceration. The movement will also call on institutions, especially churches and universities, to divest from corporations that use prison labor.
The campaign, led by the Interfaith Prison Coalition, will include a call to pay all prisoners at least the prevailing minimum wage of the state in which they are held. (New Jersey’s minimum wage is $8.38 an hour.) Wages inside prisons have remained stagnant and in real terms have declined over the past three decades. A prisoner in New Jersey makes, on average, $1.20 for eight hours of work, or about $28 a month. Those incarcerated in for-profit prisons earn as little as 17 cents an hour. Over a similar period, phone and commissary corporations have increased fees and charges often by more than 100 percent.
There are nearly 40 states that allow private corporations to exploit prison labor. And prison administrators throughout the country are lobbying corporations that have sweatshops overseas, trying to lure them into the prisons with guarantees of even cheaper labor and a total absence of organizing or coordinated protest.
Corporations currently exploiting prison labor include Abbott Laboratories, AT&T, AutoZone, Bank of America, Bayer, Berkshire Hathaway, Cargill, Caterpillar, Chevron, the former Chrysler Group, Costco Wholesale, John Deere, Eddie Bauer, Eli Lilly, ExxonMobil, Fruit of the Loom, GEICO, GlaxoSmithKline, Glaxo Wellcome, Hoffmann-La Roche, International Paper, JanSport, Johnson & Johnson, Kmart, Koch Industries, Mary Kay, McDonald’s, Merck, Microsoft, Motorola, Nintendo, Pfizer, Procter & Gamble, Quaker Oats, Sarah Lee, Sears, Shell, Sprint, Starbucks, State Farm Insurance, United Airlines, UPS, Verizon, Victoria’s Secret, Wal-Mart and Wendy’s.
Prisons in America are a hugely profitable business. The corporate state seeks to reduce all workers at home and abroad to the status of prison labor. Workers are to be so heavily controlled that organizing unions or resistance will become impossible. Benefits, pensions, overtime are to be abolished. Workers who are not slavishly submissive to the will of corporate power will be dismissed. There will be no sick days or paid vacations. No one will be able to challenge unsafe and physically difficult working conditions. And wages will be suppressed to keep workers in poverty. This is the goal of corporate power. The 1 million prisoners employed at substandard wages by corporations inside prisons are, in the eyes of our corporate masters, the ideal workers. And those Americans who ignore the plight of prison labor and refuse to organize against it will increasingly find prison working conditions replicated outside prison walls.
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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And just how many copies did they make of the original?
If the people can't obtain anything to read then they can't read anything
hence there is no need to read ffs.
Same thing happens today if you don't give your children any books.
They won't read later in life, they will rely on others to read for
them which makes them dependent on others for their knowledge. Which
makes them more susceptible to falsities.
it does not matter how many copies. the churches were open and homes and scrolls were open to be read. most of historian documentation was not written down immediately. Aristotle's works and Plato's took 1500 years after their death before historians documented the old sayings. 1500 years. how do we know these guys said that when it took 1500 years for historians to document it.
we know by the scroll process and when the process changed that the words of Yahshua were documented [Less Than] 25 years from his ascension. and also, the Greek historians documented about Yahshua within 5 yeas of His crucifixion.
and of course, no way would Greece collaborate with Rome over a myth story.
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condor_0000
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And just how many copies did they make of the original?
If the people can't obtain anything to read then they can't read anything
hence there is no need to read ffs.
Same thing happens today if you don't give your children any books.
They won't read later in life, they will rely on others to read for
them which makes them dependent on others for their knowledge. Which
makes them more susceptible to falsities.
So, if I join a church, religiously attend services, and get all my information from listening to capitalists and their Fox News type channels, I might begin to believe that the socialist, Jesus, was actually a labor-raping, warmongering, right-wing, racist, fascist capitalist and maybe even the CEO of Goldman Sachs.
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iam_resurrected
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So, if I join a church, religiously attend services, and get all my information from listening to capitalists and their Fox News type channels, I might begin to believe that the socialist, Jesus, was actually a labor-raping, warmongering, right-wing, racist, fascist capitalist and maybe even the CEO of Goldman Sachs.
i will admit i do not go to church on the sole basis i rather help my family than someone not in need. but in the churches i did attend i chose preachers that had supporters take notes, actively open and follow as the scripture was read, take notes on the message, go home and challenge it.
just the morons never open their bibles once they get in their car to drive home. so, they are only fooling themselves if the preacher is wrong.
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condor_0000
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i will admit i do not go to church on the sole basis i rather help my family than someone not in need. but in the churches i did attend i chose preachers that had supporters take notes, actively open and follow as the scripture was read, take notes on the message, go home and challenge it.
just the morons never open their bibles once they get in their car to drive home. so, they are only fooling themselves if the preacher is wrong.
So, it was entirely on your own that you came to the conclusion that the socialist, Jesus, was actually a labor-raping, warmongering, right-wing, racist, fascist capitalist and maybe even the CEO of Goldman Sachs, and that inspired you to become a right-wing capitalist as well.
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bumblebee7
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Here, we go against( but without me) saying the exact same things that were said a thousand times on the other thread...
Battling over religion:
Take 2
or 3
Or was it 4 ???
I lost count...
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condor_0000
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Here, we go against( but without me) saying the exact same things that were said a thousand times on the other thread...
Battling over religion:
Take 2
or 3
Or was it 4 ???
I lost count...
I don't have any f**king interest in religion. This thread is about politics. It's about calling attention to the fact that right-wing capitalists love the socialist, Jesus, with all their hearts and desperately want the socialist, Jesus, to love them back. It's about pointing out a simple fact that everyone knows is true: Jesus would never do any of the disgusting shit that right-wing capitalists do. None of it!
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iam_resurrected
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from condor_0000:
So, it was entirely on your own that you came to the conclusion that the socialist, Jesus, was actually a labor-raping, warmongering, right-wing, racist, fascist capitalist and maybe even the CEO of Goldman Sachs, and that inspired you to become a right-wing capitalist as well.
I don't see it as capitalistic how the church is set up via the government.
It was the founding fathers who used the church to build an army to battle England and its church.
As result, we became first society by nation to be separated from church and state.
When Thomas Paine wrote Age of Reasoning, the church understood they were duped.
Naturally like any sovereign society the government gave the church the monumental tax breaks we see today.
So, don't blame Yahshua. That honor is bestowed to our founding fathers!!
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M4mischief
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Isnt the Vatican set up like its own little capitalist country?....so maybe jesus would be the banker....
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iam_resurrected
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The vatican is full of child molestors. That ain't Christ it's the mafia in how its operated not molestors
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M4mischief
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No kidding...I watched a documentary the other night called the keepers on Netflix...it was about the murder of a nun and sexual abuse in a catholic school...it was really good and very eye opening....
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iam_resurrected
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yeah, bad news.
and they have the nerve to tell ya you are wrong when they have blood on their hands from murder or from showing the ropes to some poor child in how to light a candle 
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M4mischief
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No kidding...not to mention the ones who cover it up so its allowed to continue and to leave more and more victims in its wake...im not sure who is worse....I think they're both on the same level...ohhhhh somebody complained...better move him to a new parish and not say a word....
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iam_resurrected
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there are really decent human beings who are in the catholic church as parents and such that some how do not see how their leadership is ran. i find it unbelievable. i remember when the television preachers were falling hard. why are we shocked when sadly many are bad people? for those who are decent though, they are the ones paying for the actions of the idiots.
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M4mischief
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Unfortunately they want to protect the churches good name rather than innocent children....that's the sick part of it all....
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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you know, there is no shame in admitting you made a poor choice on where to go if you are into following a path. and there is no shame in not going or trying something else. but when wrong is being done and there seems like it ain't no stopping soon in sight, you gotta jump ship because it's a proven trainwreck about to happen!!
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M4mischief
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Yes I agree...its rotten at the top...right now the Vatican has 2000 cases of abuse back logged....
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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just sad.
but what is even sadder, [for those who do not believe] when Christ existed he never harmed a single person, did not rape em, abuse em, or condemn em.
but as the horror unfolds with the catholic church, the blame will all fall on the one person [who is innocent] of it all!!
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M4mischief
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No...it doesn't fall on anyone except the human beings responsible and those who covered it up....I really want to see them tried and convicted as well...along with the abusers...
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iam_resurrected
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condor_0000
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I don't see it as capitalistic how the church is set up via the government.
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These are the facts:
1) Jesus was clearly a socialist. No one can imagine Jesus as being a capitalist in any capacity. Jesus wouldn't have been a landlord capitalist, tossing out families whose bread winner had lost their job in a corporate downsizing. Jesus wouldn't have been the CEO of a corporation, screwing the shit out of workers so that a tiny gaggle of rich parasites who don't work can make lots of money sitting on their asses. Jesus would not have been the capitalist owner/manager of a hedge fund. We all know this about Jesus.
2) Jesus clearly would never have done any of the disgusting shit that right-wing capitalists do, as I have previously detailed, including raping workers, looting the public till, waging lots of imperialist wars, and unleashing killer-cops upon the general public.
3) And yet, as we all know, right-wing capitalists are the most proud, aggressive, chest-pounding Christians on the planet.
How do you explain the immense contradiction between the right-wing capitalists' hatred for socialism and their loving embrace of the socialist, Jesus?
It can only be explained by the fact that the capitalist ruling-class realized long ago that it could use Christianity to its benefit. All that was necessary was to brainwash the most gullible members of the underclass. Such gullible fools won't even notice the extreme contradiction. In fact, even when that extreme contradiction is pointed out to them, they will still deny it with every fiber of their idiotic being. The role of the church is to keep the increasingly-outraged public pacified and chained to capitalism and the demands of the ruling-class. In return, the church gets the full support of the state along with lots of tax-free income. It has always been such.
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own." -Thomas Jefferson
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iam_resurrected
Reno, NV
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facts according to who?
none of what you posted can be found in scripture.
the scripture, besides the ancient historians are how we know about Yahshua.
and within what know and can read [none of your points] are remotely close to what is interpreted.
you actually believe in your own lies, don't ya?
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