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6/3/2017 6:24:29 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Mobile, AL
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I just got my water bill with a report they are required to give customers and it is quite shocking to see the crap that is in your drinking/cooking water from runoff of industrial "runoff, discharge and disinfection chemicals".

You wonder why there is so much bottled water selling? Problem is not ALL bottled water is safe either, contains bacteria as well. Do your research and read your report.
Radium, copper, fluoride, nitrates chlorine, chromium, strontium vanadium, chromium, hexavalent, chloromethane.

I don't even let my dogs drink this crap. They get filtered, distilled water as well.

UNBELIEVABLE! Add this to the synthetic drugs you take and your kidneys don't stand a chance. Talk about the "slow kill".


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6/3/2017 7:39:35 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

shawnee_b
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I have used a countertop distiller 10 years or more now. Also a "zero water" for cooking like beans, pasta etc. My dogs have always drank distilled too.

6/3/2017 7:43:18 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
herc117
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Warren, IN
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Radium is good!

6/3/2017 7:43:39 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Is that easy to set up Shawnee?

6/3/2017 7:47:18 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Quote from herc117:
Radium is good!


You are hysterical herc.


According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, radium typically enters the body when it is breathed in or swallowed. Health effects from radium exposure include cancer, anemia, cataracts, and death.

6/3/2017 7:52:29 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

shawnee_b
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Edmonton, KY
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Quote from cafe_express:
Is that easy to set up Shawnee?


Very. Just fill with water, plug in and put the caraffe under the spout. I got a new one recently with a glass caraffe since the water is warm coming out. I use "megahome brand"

I have the black/stainless on the top left. (pic below)
http://www.megahome.com.tw/en/product-2.html

http://www.megahome.com.tw/en/product-1.html

I bought a plain white and plastic caraffe in 2007, it still works fine. Get the cleaner stuff cause scale buildup. Blow out the condenser fan occasionally with compressed air. Keeps it running a bit faster. Maybe 5 hours to do a gallon.



6/3/2017 7:57:43 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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I wonder if you can use vinegar for the cleaner like I do for my shower head?


Hexavalent chromium is used in textile dyes, wood preservation, anti-corrosion products, chromate conversion coatings, and a variety of niche uses. Industrial uses of hexavalent chromium compounds include chromate pigments in dyes, paints, inks, and plastics; chromates added as anticorrosive agents to paints, primers, and other surface coatings; and chromic acid electroplated onto metal parts to provide a decorative or protective coating.

Hexavalent chromium can be formed when performing "hot work" such as welding on stainless steel or melting chromium metal. In these situations the chromium is not originally hexavalent, but the high temperatures involved in the process result in oxidation that converts the chromium to a hexavalent state. Hexavalent chromium can also be found in drinking water and public water systems, causing skin rash and other dermatological skin disorders.



[Edited 6/3/2017 7:59:08 PM ]

6/3/2017 8:08:23 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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I found that system there you have posted

Best in Class, Stainless Steel & Glass Carafe Water Distiller – Model 300SS
The most popular unit from our Best-in-Class Countertop Home Water Distillers, this model has a Stainless Steel exterior and Top Quality One Gallon Glass Carafe with Ergonomic “Easy Lift” Handle.

Now with H2o Labs EXCLUSIVE Activated Carbon Pods that last twice as long and contain 3 TIMES the filtering media, specifically designed to provide the purest water and the most effective VOC removal of any similar distiller.

SKU: 300SS Weight: 15.00
Regular Price: $299.00
On Sale For: $249.00

6/3/2017 8:12:48 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
herc117
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Quote from cafe_express:
You are hysterical herc.


According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, radium typically enters the body when it is breathed in or swallowed. Health effects from radium exposure include cancer, anemia, cataracts, and death.



Google "Radium Girls" and read the whole story. They painted watch dials with radium. Told to stick the brush in their mouth to wet the bristles to a fine point.

They all died a miserable death. Thanks to them, they are the reason we now have workers compensation laws. Although they didn't live long enough to collect.



That is a pic of radium jaw!

Radium has a half life of 1600 years. Basically you can never get rid of it!

6/3/2017 8:17:24 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
herc117
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PS Back in the early 1900's they put it up inside mens penises to cure erectile dysfunction aka limp d*ck!

Talk about some crotch rot a few years later!

6/3/2017 8:18:09 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

shawnee_b
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Edmonton, KY
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Quote from cafe_express:
I wonder if you can use vinegar for the cleaner like I do for my shower head?


Hexavalent chromium is used in textile dyes, wood preservation, anti-corrosion products, chromate conversion coatings, and a variety of niche uses. Industrial uses of hexavalent chromium compounds include chromate pigments in dyes, paints, inks, and plastics; chromates added as anticorrosive agents to paints, primers, and other surface coatings; and chromic acid electroplated onto metal parts to provide a decorative or protective coating.

Hexavalent chromium can be formed when performing "hot work" such as welding on stainless steel or melting chromium metal. In these situations the chromium is not originally hexavalent, but the high temperatures involved in the process result in oxidation that converts the chromium to a hexavalent state. Hexavalent chromium can also be found in drinking water and public water systems, causing skin rash and other dermatological skin disorders.


Maybe, just try some. It comes with some cleaner I believe. Just fill with water, TBSP of the cleaner, plug in without the condenser and boil it 20 min or so. I think the cleaner is similar to coffee brite. I don't do it often but occasionally.

6/4/2017 10:22:33 AM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
herc117
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This room was so "hot" that it glowed in the dark! Parts of the radium girls actually glowed in the dark too.

It glowed such a pretty color at night. Radium watches are still available on Ebay but they don't glow anymore.

Radium is safe as long as you don't ingest it.

6/4/2017 4:45:11 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Very interesting Herc. Thanks for that. I always like to learn.

6/4/2017 5:02:23 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

fishnthec
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I hate to break it to you Cafe, but our own piss water runs downhill to the closest local water treatment plant to be treated and used as drinking water again and again.

That's why people shouldn't flush their prescriptions!

Synthetic drugs seems to escape the treatment process according to some medical scientists!

I strictly use spring water when I homebrew.

I only use tap water for cleaning things or watering the plants around here!

6/4/2017 5:56:13 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

reginamc
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I drink gallons of tap water. It's fine.

6/4/2017 7:00:35 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

louie6332
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Falkville, AL
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The company that supplies my community water is a co-op. They buy the water they distribute from another company that supplies the water. A couple of months ago I got a notice that the water that the company that supplies the water is the subject of a class action lawsuit on behalf of those of us that use its water. They put chloride and fluoride in the drinking water, and recently the Federal Government mandated that they reduce the amount of fluoride in the drinking water, but they did not do so, and they were being sued over that, and rightly so, for chlorine and fluoride are poisons that damage internal organs in the body. In Europe using chloride and fluoride is against the law, there, they use ozone instead. The ozone kills microorganisms in the water and then breaks down into oxygen. That is what they should be doing here, but the Federal Government has mandated chloride and fluoride because they want to get rid of industrial waste, which is what this is, and they want to poison people in the process.

It turns out that our water distributer had switched the source of its water. It was about that time, that I started noticing here that we were developing a hard water problem. And since this is related to this thread, I am going to go ahead and mention this here. What they call “scale” started building up in the bowls of my commodes, and the stuff was hard, very hard, I had to chip it off with a flat head screwdriver and hammer to get it off. The main culprits causing hard water problems are dissolved calcium and magnesium in the water. Scale can ruin a water system and appliances that use water, such as clothes washers, by building up in pipes and such. And correcting scale buildup can cost time and money. It’s the first time I have had a hard water problem during all the time I have been here.

The typical solution to a hard water problem is to install a salt treatment system that removes the scale building chemicals, these salts are available in bulk from Lowes and such, but that solution is expensive in that it requires you to continually replace the spent salts. I am mentioning this because there is a lesser known solution that costs nothing. These are powerful permanent magnets that you clamp around a copper or plastic pipe carrying water into your house. They magnetize the chemicals in the water preventing them from plating out as scale, and also causing scale already in the pipes to dissolve back into the water. The Federal Government, by the way, knows about this solution, and recommends it. Magnetics designed for this purpose are available from magnets4less.com. which sells powerful high grade neodymium and rare earth magnets to the public at wholesale prices, and which supplies the Federal Government, including the military, with its magnets (and no, I have no connection with them other than being a long time customer—in addition to having installed the devices that I am telling you about here, I have a lot of very powerful permanent magnets from them that I use in my research, including my free energy research).

Note: large powerful permanent magnets are not toys, and kids should not be allowed to play with them without adult supervision. If you get your fingers or hand caught between two of them, the force is so great that they can seriously injure you, even crush your bones. You never want two of these to get close enough to grab one another, keep them far enough apart so that they do not do this. And if kids swallow small permanent magnets, it generally causes no problem, they pass these, but if they swallow two or more of them, they can clamp the intestines together and that typically requires surgery to correct. So keep this in mind if you have little kids.

To find these water softener conditioner magnets on magnets4less, go to “strong neodymium magnets” on the home page and click on it, then go to and click on “Magnetic water softener conditioners” I recommend the model # MWS4, and for the hardest water, you will need three of them. Three of them plus shipping will cost you right at $200. It’s “a strong neodymium no salt solution to hard water problems”. These magnets that I am recommending are 2 inch long by 1 inch wide by 1 inch thick, and there are a pair of them in the conditioner you clamp around the pipe. They are well coated to keep them from ever corroding, and will last indefinitely. They are easy to install, and once they are installed, they cost you nothing to maintain conditioned water. The Federal Government report I mentioned above is also available from them for free download.

Most people do not know about this handy and care free solution to hard water problems, and if you have hard water problem, you will eternally grateful to me for calling this to your attention. It will save you a lot of grief and a lot of money.

Louie

6/4/2017 7:24:05 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Mobile, AL
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Quote from fishnthec:
I hate to break it to you Cafe, but our own piss water runs downhill to the closest local water treatment plant to be treated and used as drinking water again and again.

That's why people shouldn't flush their prescriptions!

Synthetic drugs seems to escape the treatment process according to some medical scientists!

I strictly use spring water when I homebrew.

I only use tap water for cleaning things or watering the plants around here!


I am with you on this one fish. I call it the slow kill. Like anything in life, the sythetic drugs people take for high BP and cholesterol after a period of times destroys the kidneys and they wing up on dialysis and in CHF every time. NEVER is it safe to ingest any man made chemical anything that is not natural to the earth.

I knew about the pharmaceuticals and sewage treatment and stopped drinking tap after the AIDS epidemic, their secretions were flushed down the hopper too.

6/4/2017 7:26:07 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

louie6332
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Falkville, AL
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Concerning water filtration for drinking water, which is in addition to hard water problems, for a long time I just purchased distilled water from Wallmart by the gallon. I now have a 4 litter counter-top water distiller unit model MH943T from Megahome, sold by Nutristream.com, which I purchased through Amazon. I purchased it because it had the best customer ratings, it is reliable, and unlike some, not rust or break down over time. And it works well. The waste heat it produces is useful in the winter time, but you might want to set it on the porch for distillation in the summer. (Note: I saw interesting discussions on the Internet on how to distill faster with less heat by distilling under partial vacuum and so on, but although I have purchased a vacuum pump, I have not experimented with that yet).

I also have a gravity fed counter top filtration system from Alex Jones off the Internet that I use to filter tap water, including filtering out chloride and fluoride from water, for drinking and cooking. And I also have a under the kitchen sink reverse-osmosis water filtering unit that I bought off the Internet. It’s the same reverse osmosis filtering system that the reverse osmosis filtering machines at wallmart make for sale. An in-home installation allows you to get the reverse osmosis filtered water from your kitchen sink through a little tap on the sink. I have this installation complete except for cutting it into the cold water line under the sink, but I need to get a special part for that. Reverse osmosis filters require some water pressure to force the water through the filter, but mine has a little electric pump to increase the pressure if the line pressure is not enough.

Louie

6/4/2017 7:34:28 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

trackker
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Quote from reginamc:
I drink gallons of tap water. It's fine.


I only drink tap water, unless in Mexico

6/4/2017 7:38:51 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Great info louie, I don't shop at Wally world, ever, I get distilled water by the gallon from our grocery store for cooking and purified water by osmosis is distelled also 89 cents a gallon.

6/4/2017 7:39:06 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Quote from trackker:
I only drink tap water, unless in Mexico




6/4/2017 7:42:28 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

mr_bad_robot
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I hear that bottled spring water is good. Full of raccoon piss and bear poo.

6/4/2017 8:00:04 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Quote from mr_bad_robot:
I hear that bottled spring water is good. Full of raccoon piss and bear poo.


I did a lot of researc, those bottled waters are mostley worthless and a waste of money. There are only 4 on the list of legitimate waters.

Those ones that are from the "Carolina springs, and Zephyrhills "springs. are fake and full of bacteria and you might as well drink your tap water.

Gotta' do your homework or like any purchase, you can be taken and many poor quality anything is people jumping on the band wago.

That DeSantis and Aqua waters are worthless.

6/4/2017 8:05:34 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

shawnee_b
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Quote from cafe_express:
Great info louie, I don't shop at Wally world, ever, I get distilled water by the gallon from our grocery store for cooking and purified water by osmosis is distelled also 89 cents a gallon.


Counter top distiller much cheaper.

6/4/2017 8:17:20 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cherisays
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Back in 2000 or 2001 I bought a water jug with the filter in it. It was similar to a Brita like you see today but it was made by Rubbermaid. It came with 2 filters and when we used those up we went looking for replacements; couldn't find them anywhere. This was the early days of the internet for me but I decided to send an e-mail to Rubbermaid and see if I could locate these filters. I was informed that they discontinued this filter/jug but that they had a few at the ware house that they could send for $6 each. I sent $12 and the next thing I knew I had every filter they had at the warehouse! I just installed my last filter today. I think I got my money's worth but not sure what to do after this filter is done.

6/4/2017 8:51:24 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

shawnee_b
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Edmonton, KY
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Quote from cherisays:
Back in 2000 or 2001 I bought a water jug with the filter in it. It was similar to a Brita like you see today but it was made by Rubbermaid. It came with 2 filters and when we used those up we went looking for replacements; couldn't find them anywhere. This was the early days of the internet for me but I decided to send an e-mail to Rubbermaid and see if I could locate these filters. I was informed that they discontinued this filter/jug but that they had a few at the ware house that they could send for $6 each. I sent $12 and the next thing I knew I had every filter they had at the warehouse! I just installed my last filter today. I think I got my money's worth but not sure what to do after this filter is done.


Brita sucks. Get a "zero water" or distill it. Anyone drinks tap water also trust the govt. It's BAD. Real bad.

6/4/2017 8:53:15 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Mobile, AL
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I got a Pur for the faucet, from Target. Like Shawnee says, If I spend 30 dollars a month on bottled water, after 6 months I could have bought that system on Amazon for $200.00

6/4/2017 9:02:30 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

shawnee_b
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Edmonton, KY
62, joined Apr. 2010


Quote from cafe_express:
I got a Pur for the faucet, from Target. Like Shawnee says, If I spend 30 dollars a month on bottled water, after 6 months I could have bought that system on Amazon for $200.00


Pur is as bad as a brita, joke. Try a Zero, has a tester even and not a bad filter just expensive replacements and DO IT, Countertop distiller even better. $200 or so depending on caraffe. I haven't worn one out and turn a gallon or 2 a day.

6/4/2017 9:58:29 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
herc117
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Warren, IN
56, joined Dec. 2016


Quote from louie6332:
The company that supplies my community water is a co-op. They buy the water they distribute from another company that supplies the water. A couple of months ago I got a notice that the water that the company that supplies the water is the subject of a class action lawsuit on behalf of those of us that use its water. They put chloride and fluoride in the drinking water, and recently the Federal Government mandated that they reduce the amount of fluoride in the drinking water, but they did not do so, and they were being sued over that, and rightly so, for chlorine and fluoride are poisons that damage internal organs in the body. In Europe using chloride and fluoride is against the law, there, they use ozone instead. The ozone kills microorganisms in the water and then breaks down into oxygen. That is what they should be doing here, but the Federal Government has mandated chloride and fluoride because they want to get rid of industrial waste, which is what this is, and they want to poison people in the process.

It turns out that our water distributer had switched the source of its water. It was about that time, that I started noticing here that we were developing a hard water problem. And since this is related to this thread, I am going to go ahead and mention this here. What they call “scale” started building up in the bowls of my commodes, and the stuff was hard, very hard, I had to chip it off with a flat head screwdriver and hammer to get it off. The main culprits causing hard water problems are dissolved calcium and magnesium in the water. Scale can ruin a water system and appliances that use water, such as clothes washers, by building up in pipes and such. And correcting scale buildup can cost time and money. It’s the first time I have had a hard water problem during all the time I have been here.

The typical solution to a hard water problem is to install a salt treatment system that removes the scale building chemicals, these salts are available in bulk from Lowes and such, but that solution is expensive in that it requires you to continually replace the spent salts. I am mentioning this because there is a lesser known solution that costs nothing. These are powerful permanent magnets that you clamp around a copper or plastic pipe carrying water into your house. They magnetize the chemicals in the water preventing them from plating out as scale, and also causing scale already in the pipes to dissolve back into the water. The Federal Government, by the way, knows about this solution, and recommends it. Magnetics designed for this purpose are available from magnets4less.com. which sells powerful high grade neodymium and rare earth magnets to the public at wholesale prices, and which supplies the Federal Government, including the military, with its magnets (and no, I have no connection with them other than being a long time customer—in addition to having installed the devices that I am telling you about here, I have a lot of very powerful permanent magnets from them that I use in my research, including my free energy research).

Note: large powerful permanent magnets are not toys, and kids should not be allowed to play with them without adult supervision. If you get your fingers or hand caught between two of them, the force is so great that they can seriously injure you, even crush your bones. You never want two of these to get close enough to grab one another, keep them far enough apart so that they do not do this. And if kids swallow small permanent magnets, it generally causes no problem, they pass these, but if they swallow two or more of them, they can clamp the intestines together and that typically requires surgery to correct. So keep this in mind if you have little kids.

To find these water softener conditioner magnets on magnets4less, go to “strong neodymium magnets” on the home page and click on it, then go to and click on “Magnetic water softener conditioners” I recommend the model # MWS4, and for the hardest water, you will need three of them. Three of them plus shipping will cost you right at $200. It’s “a strong neodymium no salt solution to hard water problems”. These magnets that I am recommending are 2 inch long by 1 inch wide by 1 inch thick, and there are a pair of them in the conditioner you clamp around the pipe. They are well coated to keep them from ever corroding, and will last indefinitely. They are easy to install, and once they are installed, they cost you nothing to maintain conditioned water. The Federal Government report I mentioned above is also available from them for free download.

Most people do not know about this handy and care free solution to hard water problems, and if you have hard water problem, you will eternally grateful to me for calling this to your attention. It will save you a lot of grief and a lot of money.

Louie



Flouride also causes flourosis of bones and teeth. It is not a pretty site.

6/4/2017 10:15:37 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
itzatrapp
Al Hufuf
Saudi Arabia
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Quote from cafe_express:
I just got my water bill with a report they are required to give customers and it is quite shocking to see the crap that is in your drinking/cooking water from runoff of industrial "runoff, discharge and disinfection chemicals".

You wonder why there is so much bottled water selling? Problem is not ALL bottled water is safe either, contains bacteria as well. Do your research and read your report.
Radium, copper, fluoride, nitrates chlorine, chromium, strontium vanadium, chromium, hexavalent, chloromethane.

I don't even let my dogs drink this crap. They get filtered, distilled water as well.

UNBELIEVABLE! Add this to the synthetic drugs you take and your kidneys don't stand a chance. Talk about the "slow kill".


I watched a documentary called Blue Gold(It's been a few years-tho) about the bottled water industry. You might want to give it a looksee.



[Edited 6/4/2017 10:16:27 PM ]

6/4/2017 11:45:56 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

mudclean
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Warren, MI
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It's nice being so close to the Great Lakes. Plenty of water here.

6/5/2017 7:07:07 AM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Mobile, AL
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Is that near Flint Michigan Mud?

6/5/2017 7:31:21 AM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  

dwwcat
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Orange, TX
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I have a 500ft well, no chemicals and test good enough for my saltwater tank.

6/5/2017 9:06:27 PM Have any of you looked at your local water report?  
cafe_express
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Mobile, AL
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You are lucky there DWW. Don't drink downstream