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6/5/2017 10:25:17 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Will the new budget proposal help the destitute? the 49.933 homeless vets, the sick
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Is the new administration more interested in saving money for their own benefits?

Or indeed! make their names great among themselves, even if the life of those that cray
with unheard voices, by those with their own agenda.

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6/5/2017 10:50:49 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Answer not a fool according to his foolishness. lets he think he is wise, answer a fool as
he deserves.

6/5/2017 11:08:07 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

eppz17
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Social responsibility is an ethical framework and suggests that an entity, be it an organization or individual, has an obligation to act for the benefit of society at large. Social responsibility is a duty every individual has to perform so as to maintain a balance between the economy and the ecosystems.

6/5/2017 11:09:41 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

cinnamonnhaze
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It would help if the republicans (earning less than 7 figures) would stop voting against their best interests, research what their candidates stand for, help thy neighbor - instead of falling for any "catch phrase" that give angry people a free pass to hate & discriminate.

6/5/2017 11:24:18 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  
mralwaysrite
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In 2016, U.S. total net social spending stood at 28.8% of GDP, second to France's 31% of GDP.

http://www.oecd.org/social/expenditure.htm

Whereas "Socialist" Canada's net social spending stood at 20% of GDP.

Question: Can Canadians afford paying 29% of its GDP on social programs?

Answer; NOPE!

6/5/2017 11:27:51 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

longbobby
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Quote from eppz17:
Social responsibility is an ethical framework and suggests that an entity, be it an organization or individual, has an obligation to act for the benefit of society at large. Social responsibility is a duty every individual has to perform so as to maintain a balance between the economy and the ecosystems.


Plagiarize wikipedia much?

Social responsibility - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_responsibility
Social responsibility is an ethical framework and suggests ... obligation to act for the benefit of society ... a duty every individual has to perform so as to ..

Are you admitting 0bama's budget proposals did nothing for ... the destitute? the 49.933 homeless vets, the sick
elderly, children, or the approximately 1.6million sheltered homeless.::


And, since 0bama did nothing for the poor and downtrodden and Hillary had nothing to offer for ... the destitute? the 49.933 homeless vets, the sick
elderly, children, or the approximately 1.6million sheltered homeless.::


Then now it is Trumps responsibility to do that which 0bama and Hillary refused to do?

6/5/2017 11:29:36 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Trump increased VA spending and increased Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security in his 10 year budget.

6/5/2017 11:36:39 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

eppz17
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Government helps those who can't help themselves that's compassion for others We take care of prisoners in prison, so government should take care of people who need help, as its a compassionate thing to do as the constitution says to support the general welfare and the supreme court has agreed with this and has said this is the law of the land and laws are meant to be obeyed. That's why the disabled get ssdi and ssi(supplemental security income, ssi is not social security), ssi is not supported by payroll taxes, just by all other federal taxes, like income, corporate, excise, etc.

6/5/2017 11:44:58 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from eppz17:

Government helps those who can't help themselves that's compassion for others We take care of prisoners in prison, so government should take care of people who need help, as its a compassionate thing to do as the constitution says to support the general welfare and the supreme court has agreed with this and has said this is the law of the land and laws are meant to be obeyed. That's why the disabled get ssdi and ssi(supplemental security income, ssi is not social security), ssi is not supported by payroll taxes, just by all other federal taxes, like income, corporate, excise, etc.
---------------------------------------------------------

Still plagiarizing, I see.

Is the government obligated to take care of its citizens ...
www.debate.org/opinions/is-the-government-obligated-to...
Government helps those who can't help themselves that's compassion for others. We take care of prisoners in prison, so ... That's why the disabled get ssdi and ssi ...

See this part right here ... www.debate.org/opinions/is-the-government-obligated-to...

That's called a "link".

If you are going to copy and paste info from a particular website then you are obligated to post the link from which it came.

Otherwise, you are nothing but a plagiarizer.

Definition of plagiarize
plagiarized; plagiarizing

transitive verb

to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source

intransitive verb

to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarize

6/5/2017 11:53:39 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  
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Quote from eppz17:
Government helps those who can't help themselves that's compassion for others We take care of prisoners in prison, so government should take care of people who need help, as its a compassionate thing to do as the constitution says to support the general welfare and the supreme court has agreed with this and has said this is the law of the land and laws are meant to be obeyed. That's why the disabled get ssdi and ssi(supplemental security income, ssi is not social security), ssi is not supported by payroll taxes, just by all other federal taxes, like income, corporate, excise, etc.


Quote: "government should take care of people who need help"

Agreed, but effectively, and efficiently.

For your info, the Canadian government recently chopped off two national social programs, thus, we're down to only two federal direct assistance programs;

a. Working income tax benefit, and

b. a monthly Child tax credit, 95% direct deposits at a cost of 4 cents per recipient.

Ms. epps17, how many federal direct assistance social programs do you have, and total administrative expenses?

6/5/2017 11:57:49 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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It seems like most of the cuts are happening to the agencies and scientists who study our planet. It's a good idea, because why would we want to know more about our planet and the climate. If anything, he should cut funding for all science related to this planet, and increase funding for shovels so we can bury our heads even deeper.

6/5/2017 12:43:18 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  
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Standard operating procedure for the right wing;
ADD TO THE WEALTH OF THE ALREADY WEALTHY, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS AND THE ALREADY POOR!!

6/5/2017 1:29:57 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from 61falcon:
Standard operating procedure for the right wing;
ADD TO THE WEALTH OF THE ALREADY WEALTHY, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MIDDLE CLASS AND THE ALREADY POOR!!


The wealthy are the job creators for the poor and middle class right? Or do poor people create jobs? Lol

6/5/2017 1:49:12 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from jitssbaby617:
The wealthy are the job creators for the poor and middle class right? Or do poor people create jobs? Lol




Great! that is a good thing!

6/5/2017 3:27:30 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from dwwcat:
Trump increased VA spending and increased Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security in his 10 year budget.

No.

6/5/2017 3:32:11 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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The wealthy are the job creators for the poor and middle class right? Or do poor people create jobs? Lol

All capital is created by productive workers. People like Trump and Soros never created anything in their lives, except schemes to enrich themselves by cheating others (Trump University, bankruptcy protection against creditors, etc.)

Elon Musk at least did some innovating, and provided some visionary leadership. That is certainly worth something... Not billions of dollars, but a decent amount.

Jobs are created when demand grows. If there is demand for 10 million jeans, and then the demand increases to 20 million jeans, you need to expand jean manufacturing and hire more workers to produce the additional units. That's why the economy is healthiest when most of the capital created by productive workers stays with them, to be spent on products and services in the real economy (instead of the financial engineering instruments of the wealthy and their offshore bank accounts.)



[Edited 6/5/2017 3:35:00 PM ]

6/5/2017 7:47:44 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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The Ryan Budget Doesn't Just Sin Against the Poor. It Sins Against Math, Too
By Danny Vinik
April 10, 2014
Leaders of the Republican Party have spent a lot of time trying to convince us they really care about low-income Americans. Paul Ryan put out a report on poverty. Marco Rubio vowed to strengthen the safety net. Rand Paul talked about saving Detroit.

6/5/2017 8:44:44 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  
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Quote from lobo_corazon:

Jobs are created when demand grows. If there is demand for 10 million jeans, and then the demand increases to 20 million jeans, you need to expand jean manufacturing and hire more workers to produce the additional units.


Hold on there syncretic thinker....

You jumped way ahead.

What about the FOUNDER/OWNER of the company?

6/5/2017 8:52:52 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  
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It is not government's responsibility to take care of people their entire lives. Short-term assistance is one thing but as you don't feed the animals in national parks because they come dependent on humans feeding them the same is true with humans, if you feed them they become complacent and lazy and will not take care of themselves.









[Edited 6/5/2017 8:55:56 PM ]

6/5/2017 8:57:38 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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That's about the stupidest f**king comparison I've ever seen on here.


somebodies had to be. Yours won.

6/5/2017 9:08:03 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from ron6280a:
Hold on there syncretic thinker....

You jumped way ahead.

What about the FOUNDER/OWNER of the company?



Congrats!

Lobo wrote that out in a manner in which 1st graders could see the "big picture".
Yet somehow (in all of your profound wisdom) you still do not understand how a working economy works.

Yep. Chump had you pegged.

6/5/2017 9:11:26 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from scarredandtatto:
That's about the stupidest f**king comparison I've ever seen on here.


somebodies had to be. Yours won.



Don't ya just get the urge to slap the snot out of some of these prodigies & try to knock a smidge of common sense into them.

"Proud to be an American."
Bahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Not any more!!!

6/5/2017 9:22:33 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  
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Quote from cinnamonnhaze:
Congrats!

Lobo wrote that out in a manner in which 1st graders could see the "big picture".
Yet somehow (in all of your profound wisdom) you still do not understand how a working economy works.

Yep. Chump had you pegged.


How are you not embarrassed?

6/5/2017 9:29:01 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  
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You get jobs going and so many will get their pride and live a life style without a handout.

6/5/2017 10:35:49 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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z17, if you really understood how much money, $3-3.5 Trillion a year, every year, that the Federal Gov't spends, that doesn't include the States, and really understood who really receives all that money, you would have never asked such a question.




Quote from eppz17:
Will the new budget proposal help the destitute? the 49.933 homeless vets, the sick
elderly, children, or the approximately 1.6million sheltered homeless.::
Is the new administration more interested in saving money for their own benefits?

Or indeed! make their names great among themselves, even if the life of those that cray
with unheard voices, by those with their own agenda.

Will we as citizens of the USA of America lift our voices in unity, for the unheard many?


6/5/2017 11:51:27 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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The preaching that sillyb*tch does from his highchair sounds stupid as f**k.

I'm convinced that he just bangs shit out to be "involved" in whatever other people are.

6/6/2017 6:59:52 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Obama had 8 years to help vets. The VA scandal broke during his reign and he chose to ignore the problem and let vets die.

The Republicans tried to push for vets to be eligible for private care to avoid long waits. The Democrats and Obama wanted no part of it!

Now the Republicans and Trump have not only given vets access to timely medical care through private doctors, they just pushed through a series of meaningful reforms to modernize the VA and provide better care.

I guess the question is if you want vets getting the care they deserve, why did you vote Democrat?

p.s. you as in all of you who did...not specifically the OP.



[Edited 6/6/2017 7:01:35 AM ]

6/6/2017 7:51:51 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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The Trump Administration budget was met with howling protest for its proposed cuts to poverty-related programs: “This is overall an assault on a wide range of ordinary Americans for the purpose of providing tax cuts to the wealthiest,” said Olivia Golden executive director of the Center for Law and Social Policy, a nonprofit group focused on low-income Americans. Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney defended the proposals. “We’re not going to measure our success by how much money we spend, but by how many people we actually help,” Mr. Mulvaney said as he outlined the proposal at the White House on Monday before its formal presentation on Tuesday to Congress.

Read more: https://www.americanactionforum.org/daily-dish/work-poverty-trump-budget/#ixzz4jE5ISG49
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6/6/2017 7:59:52 AM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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What do you call adding about 10 billion in funding to Medicaid 10 years in a row?

A cut, liberal logic 101,

6/6/2017 12:42:45 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from eppz17:
The Trump Administration budget was met with howling protest for its proposed cuts to poverty-related programs: “This is overall an assault on a wide range of ordinary Americans for the purpose of providing tax cuts to the wealthiest,” said Olivia Golden executive director of the Center for Law and Social Policy, a nonprofit group focused on low-income Americans. Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney defended the proposals. “We’re not going to measure our success by how much money we spend, but by how many people we actually help,” Mr. Mulvaney said as he outlined the proposal at the White House on Monday before its formal presentation on Tuesday to Congress.

Read more: https://www.americanactionforum.org/daily-dish/work-poverty-trump-budget/#ixzz4jE5ISG49
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This is the problem with liberalism. This lady isn't looking to help anybody, she's looking for the government to do it for her.

Why would I help somebody when I can just claim my moral superiority just by being a ward of the state?

She seems like she's doing well. If Trump puts that money back in her pocket I wonder what she'll do with it?

6/6/2017 1:42:58 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from mudclean:
This is the problem with liberalism. This lady isn't looking to help anybody, she's looking for the government to do it for her.

Why would I help somebody when I can just claim my moral superiority just by being a ward of the state?

She seems like she's doing well. If Trump puts that money back in her pocket I wonder what she'll do with it?


I will never be bullied into silence. Never allow myself to be made a victim. Accept no ones definition of my life; define myself.

6/6/2017 2:43:20 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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We should only help the elderly and disabled.

6/6/2017 2:51:32 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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YEAH! F**k the young! And the poor! And the sick!

6/6/2017 2:53:11 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAjNqIwYcdI

Does she look to you to be disabled and helpless? I have no issue with tax dollars being spent on people who help themselves.

Stay in school, study hard, don't do drugs and keep your pants on. Do these 4 things, and unless there is a highly unusual circumstance, this will not be you.

6/6/2017 3:07:20 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from eppz17:
The Trump Administration budget was met with howling protest for its proposed cuts to poverty-related programs: “This is overall an assault on a wide range of ordinary Americans for the purpose of providing tax cuts to the wealthiest,” said Olivia Golden executive director of the Center for Law and Social Policy,


I don't understand how a government program run on EVERYBODY'S taxes collected, is a tax cut to the wealthiest? Please explain. To me your statement sounds like- say 4 ppl put in 50$ a week for a collective agreement to spend on food, and gas. You cut the food out for a month and blame Joe for getting a break.

6/6/2017 3:18:25 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from trackker:
I don't understand how a government program run on EVERYBODY'S taxes collected, is a tax cut to the wealthiest? Please explain. To me your statement sounds like- say 4 ppl put in 50$ a week for a collective agreement to spend on food, and gas. You cut the food out for a month and blame Joe for getting a break.




Joe. have been getting a break for way to long.

6/6/2017 3:23:44 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” -- Ronald Reagan

6/6/2017 3:26:01 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from ron6280a:
Hold on there syncretic thinker....

You jumped way ahead.

What about the FOUNDER/OWNER of the company?

What about them? If he makes a company that produces something nobody needs, or more to the point something that nobody can afford to buy, he hasn't added anything of value to the world.

Bernie Maddoff hired some people. Adolf Hitler hired lots of people. So does the health insurance bureaucracy and the federal government bureaucracy, and the guy who hires illegal immigrants to roof your house.

Jobs just for the sake of jobs aren't even a good thing.

Then there's the case where some company starts up and hires some people, but they are producing a product that isn't needed (like a different brand of shirts), which results in displacing jobs from other shirt producers. No net benefit, because you haven't done anything to increase demand (this is why "supply side economics" is a fundamentally bad/flawed idea.)
Worst case, that new "job creator" like Walmart and now Amazon, hires 10,000 people and displaces 10 million jobs! Massive net negative, at least as long as we keep approaching capitalism the way we do (work as few people as you can as hard as you can and leave the rest unemployed and destitute.)

Third case (the most hopeful), a company truly innovates something that is really useful, like the smart phone. The guy who invented the concept of the smartphone provided value to the world, as did the engineers and product designers and app programmers who added features and perfected the concept. And of course, so did all the workers who build the phones.
The "founder/owner of the company"? Well, you tell me specifically what he contributed (not counting things he got other people to do for him.) Once you have that info, we can make a value decision about what his contribution was worth. If there are any situations where the contribution of the founder was actually worth a billion dollars, I would be curious to hear about it (and would probably dispute it.)
Owners, as in stockholders, typically contribute nothing at all to the company - In fact if the company pays dividends they are leeches constantly draining assets and the financial health of the company away.

One of the greatest sad facts about capitalism is that the people who it really rewards aren't the most productive, but rather the most aggressive, greedy, connected and ruthless. "Captains of industry" have a common characteristic of being really good at exploiting other people - In fact it can be convincingly stated that most successful CEOs are on the spectrum of Psychopaths (because they tend not to consider the needs and wants of others, and are happy to step on as many heads as it takes to climb.)

6/6/2017 3:29:00 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Socialism and Communism has produced the greatest pain and suffering, and poverty, of it's people, the world has ever known. It's done so for centuries. It's in the history books for all to see, don't take my word for it.

As the mice follow the pied piper down to the river to drown.

6/6/2017 3:30:58 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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A guy looked at my Corvette the other day and said I wonder how many people could have been fed for the money that sports car cost.

I replied I am not sure, it fed a lot of families in Bowling Green, Kentucky who built it, it fed the people who make the tires, it fed the people who made the components that went into it, it fed the people in the copper mine who mined the copper for the wires, it fed people in Decatur IL. at Caterpillar who make the trucks that haul the copper ore. It fed the trucking people who hauled it from the plant to the dealer and fed the people working at the dealership and their families. BUT,... I have to admit, I guess I really don't know how many people it fed.

That is the difference between capitalism and welfare mentality. When you buy something, you put money in people's pockets, and give them dignity for their skills.

When you give someone something for nothing, you rob them of their dignity and self worth.

Capitalism is freely giving your money in exchange for something of value.

Socialism is taking your money against your will and shoving something down your throat that you never asked for.


I've decided I can't be politically correct anymore. (I never was, actually)

6/6/2017 3:34:01 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from clarity101:
“Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it.” -- Ronald Reagan


Was this before or after he said he now had definitive proof that smoking even one joint causes the same damage as being at bikini island during nuclear testing.

6/6/2017 3:35:09 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from jillybodob:
Socialism and Communism has produced the greatest pain and suffering, and poverty, of it's people, the world has ever known. It's done so for centuries. It's in the history books for all to see, don't take my word for it.


It is in history books. Not a single country today is socialist. Native Americans were, but that way of life didn't fail them. Trusting capitalists failed them.

6/6/2017 3:44:16 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Thousands of people have been miraculously cured of poverty in Georgia following the state’s implementation of a requirement that all those receiving stamps must either be working, training for a job, or volunteering for a non-profit or charity.

According to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “Georgia has been rolling out work requirements for food stamp recipients for over a year.”

The outlet states that the latest rollout saw the requirements reach 21 counties, affecting roughly 12,000 able-bodied people without children.

Those people were given until April 1 to fulfil the aforementioned requirement. But when that date rolled around, The Journal-Constitution, citing state figures, reports that more than half of the food stamp recipients were dropped from the program.

“Essentially, the number of recipients spiraled down from 11,779 to 4,528, or a drop of 62 percent,” the outlet states.

According to The Journal-Constitution Georgian officials are looking at expanding the food stamp requirements to all 159 counties in the state by 2019.

“The greater good is people being employed, being productive, and contributing to the state,” said Bobby Cagle, head of Georgia’s Division of Family and Children Services, according to the outlet.

6/6/2017 3:48:07 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

lobo_corazon
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The three factors that have produced the greatest pain and suffering in our fractious history are religion, racism and greed.

Greed of course is the motor that drives Capitalism and the "invisible hand". (It relies on people to be greedy and do whatever makes them the most profit, with the belief that when everyone does so things will just work out for the greater good.)

Allocating profit from the worker's work to the workers ("To each according to their deeds", aka Socialism) has never been a significant cause of pain and suffering as far as I know. If anyone can think of an example I would be interested to hear it.

6/6/2017 3:48:52 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Prog, enter the money grows on trees contingent. You might want to read what you wrote again.



Quote from progrocknic:
It is in history books. Not a single country today is socialist. Native Americans were, but that way of life didn't fail them. Trusting capitalists failed them.


6/6/2017 4:02:03 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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June 5, 2017 at 11:30 AM
Thirteen Alabama counties saw a dramatic drop in food stamp participation after work requirement for able-bodied adults were restarted.
By Leada Gore

Thirteen previously exempted Alabama counties saw an 85 percent drop in food stamp participation after work requirements were put in place on Jan. 1, according to the Alabama Department of Human Resources.

The counties - Greene, Hale, Perry, Dallas, Lowndes, Wilcox, Monroe, Conecuh, Clarke, Washington, Choctaw, Sumter and Barbour - had been exempt from a change that limited able-bodied adults without dependents to three months of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits within a three-year time frame unless they were working or participating in an approved training program.

During the economic downturn of 2011-2013, several states - including Alabama - waived the SNAP work requirements in response to high unemployment. It was reinstituted for 54 counties on Jan. 1, 2016 and for the remaining 13 on Jan. 1, 2017. As of April 2017, the highest jobless rate among the 13 previously excluded counties was in Wilcox County, which reported a state-high unemployment rate of 11.7 percent, down more than 11 percentage points from the county's jobless rate for the same month of 2011.

Ending the exemption has dramatically cut the number of SNAP recipients in the counties.

As of Jan. 1, 2017, there were 13,663 able-bodied adults without dependents receiving food stamps statewide. That number dropped to 7,483 by May 1, 2017. Among the 13 counties, there were 5,538 adults ages 18-50 without dependents receiving food stamps as of Jan. 1, 2017. That number dropped to 831 - a decline of about 85 percent - by May 1, 2017.

"Based on the trend, the number of (able-bodied adults without dependents) recipients for SNAP benefits is expected to continue to decline statewide and in the formerly 13 exempted counties," according to Alabama DHR spokesperson John Hardy.

Statewide, the number of able-bodied adults receiving food stamps has fallen by almost 35,000 people since Jan. 1, 2016. Each recipient receives about $126 a month in benefits.

Nationwide, there are about 44 million people receiving SNAP benefits at a cost of about $71 billion. The Trump administration has vowed to cut the food stamp rolls over the next decade, including ensuring that able-bodied adults recipients are working.

6/6/2017 4:04:03 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from jillybodob:
Prog, enter the money grows on trees contingent. You might want to read what you wrote again.





WHAT IN THE F**K DO YOU BABBLE ABOUT?! Where do you come up with this shit? Know that nobody but you understands what the f**k you mean.

6/6/2017 5:18:47 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from eppz17:
I will never be bullied into silence. Never allow myself to be made a victim. Accept no ones definition of my life; define myself.


I'm not bullying you into anything. I'm actually making your point for you. I am saying the government needs to help people with your money because if they let you keep it you wouldn't use it to help anybody. It's okay to be selfish as long as you admit it.

6/6/2017 5:29:01 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from mudclean:
I'm not bullying you into anything. I'm actually making your point for you. I am saying the government needs to help people with your money because if they let you keep it you wouldn't use it to help anybody. It's okay to be selfish as long as you admit it.


Yes I am Conservative Republican. But I am not ignorant nor blind, I can see when some people
That can’t help themselves, are been manipulated by those in authority.

It has nothing to do with party association. But fairness for all.





6/6/2017 5:31:13 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from eppz17:
Yes I am Conservative Republican. But I am not ignorant nor blind, I can see when some people
That can’t help themselves, are been manipulated by those in authority.

It has nothing to do with party association. But fairness for all.





And who decides what is fair?

6/6/2017 5:33:09 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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z17...if I stay in school, study hard, don't do drugs and keep my pants on, what 'fairness' are you seeking for those who don't?

It's time to call out shit for what it is and stop rewarding it's stink.






Quote from eppz17:
Yes I am Conservative Republican. But I am not ignorant nor blind, I can see when some people
That can’t help themselves, are been manipulated by those in authority.

It has nothing to do with party association. But fairness for all.





6/6/2017 5:33:46 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

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Quote from mudclean:
And who decides what is fair?



God's word!

6/6/2017 5:38:22 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

jillybodob
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thou shall not steal.

6/6/2017 5:39:07 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

mudclean
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Quote from eppz17:
God's word!


And what does God's word say is fair?

6/6/2017 5:45:10 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

jillybodob
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thou shalt not lie

6/6/2017 5:46:00 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  
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dont be a d*ckhead?

6/6/2017 5:46:57 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

jillybodob
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thou shall not kill.

6/6/2017 5:59:25 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

mudclean
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That's all true Jilly but I'm waiting for her to tell me about this "fairness" verse she's talking about.

6/6/2017 6:01:21 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  
sdgncalix3
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What the hell are you guys talking about?


Life isnt fair. Its not suppose to be

6/6/2017 6:02:57 PM Trump's budget cut, part 2  

mudclean
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Quote from sdgncalix3:
What the hell are you guys talking about?


Life isnt fair. Its not suppose to be


You don't have to convince me. Tell eppz