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8/5/2017 4:31:38 PM What climate change?  

cinnamonnhaze
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Article is by Popular Science

The 2017 fire season is a global phenomenon.
You may have missed the memo (we get it, there’s been a lot going on) but the world is currently on fire as massive blazes burn in the United States, Canada, and across Europe. To give you a sense of the scale of the inferno, we’ve included maps of the wildfires, as well as images from some of the fiery scenes. Here, is the lowdown.
Here in the United States the Forest Service is reporting that 2017 is shaping up to be a worse than average fire year based on acres of federal, private and state land burned. So far, 5.6 million acres of land has burned this year, or 1.8 million acres more than the ten year average of 3.8 million acres burned by this time. Some states like Nevada are saying that 2017 is the worst fire season in 15 years, while Montana has already used up much of its firefighting budget, even as much of the state remains in drought conditions according to the US Drought Monitor. The state may have to tap into reserve and federal funding but that isn’t the only cost. Brent M. Witham, a 29-year-old firefighter from Mentone, California, was killed cutting down a tree while working on the Lolo Peak Fire.
Despite urgent conditions, funding for the nation’s six Regional Climate Centers (RCCs) which provide data that we use to help control and prevent wildfires is on the chopping block. The President’s proposed budget would slash the Centers' budgets by 82%, from $3.65 million to $650,000.
The Centers were originally developed in the 1980s with bipartisan support because of the service and expertise they provide as data collectors, analyzers and subject matter experts. If they’re eliminated, “We’’ would of a lot of fundamental climate services,” Tim Brown Research Professor Climatology Director Western Regional Climate Center told PopSci. “That includes information for decision makers for drought, fires and floods, and impacts, on transportation and human health, water supplies, energy and disaster management planning, all of these areas the regional climate center program supports.”
On a more concrete level this includes banal information, such as yesterday’s temperature high and low—that’s Regional Climate Center Data. More critically, if we’re talking fires, this also means the loss of Western Based US Drought Monitoring Author which adds to the weekly drought map that government uses to allocate drought relief as well as an early drought warning system—i.e. the conditions which can precede wildfires.
Across the border from the United States, fires are also currently scorching Canada’s British Columbia. This is the province’s second worst fire season on record and NASA satellites have identified the conflagration from space. It’s unsurprising that the smoke is billowing over the border into nearby Seattle in Washington state which is also under a heat advisory. On Thursday, the city hit a record breaking 94 degrees at the Seattle Tacoma airport. The regular high for the region at this time of year is 77 degrees. Between the heat and the fact that the region has been, according to US Drought Monitor is unnaturally dry that wildfires are knocking on their door is unsurprising.
On the other side of the globe, if you load up the European Commission’s fire map, it looks like the end of the world, especially in Italy and Romania. So far, an area just slightly smaller than the state of Rhode Island has burned. The total is already roughly three times the normal amount of summer wildfires. Back in June, 60 people died over the course of one weekend in Portugal due to wildfires. Thirty people were killed when the fires reached roads on evacuation routes. And as the map makes clear, those fires don’t seem to be abating.
Wildfires are also plaguing Sibera in Russia, an image NASA has managed to capture on satellite footage, along with large swathes of Brazil.
According to European news reports, researchers are saying that climate change is to blame, as warmer temperatures have extended the regions fire season, potentially making weather like this increasingly the region’s new normal.
Back in the United States, some of the fires will continue to blaze until at least October, based on data in the Incident Information System.


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8/5/2017 4:47:36 PM What climate change?  
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As a right-winger, I don't trust scientists when it comes to science, rather I trust billionaire CEOs. Super-rich CEOs, especially energy-corporation CEOs, would never lie to us.

8/5/2017 4:54:15 PM What climate change?  
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The permafrost in Siberia is melting causing railroad tracks and roadways to collapse and buckle.There are also gigantic and extremely deep sink holes appearing in Siberia.We have a similar melting of permafrost taking place in parts of Alaska.

8/5/2017 5:28:26 PM What climate change?  

cinnamonnhaze
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The main reason I posted that article was to point out how much chump cut the budget by - 80%!!!

I guess he really does intend to set the country a blaze before he's FINISHED.

All is good as long as dem billionaires get dem tax cuts.

What a bunch of morons that continue to support him.
Even the idiots who can look out their front door & see the flames!!!
And the ones washing away in floods still have chump signs in hand.

Oh well, if it thins out the cult....


8/5/2017 5:29:06 PM What climate change?  
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Parts of Europe experiencing temperatures over 100 degrees right now.

8/5/2017 5:42:55 PM What climate change?  

cinnamonnhaze
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Yes! Same as the western parts of the United States.

Meanwhile it's August in Minnesota too. Our hottest month.
I've had the furnace on the past 3 out of 4 mornings.
Yet the past 2 winters I haven't even had a plow worthy snow fall. The lakes aren't freezing over. The moose are dying from a brain eating disease caused because it's not getting cold enough to kill off the bacteria the ticks are carrying.

It's more than the flames we can visibly see - it's destroying the entire eco system.

Buh bye Earth!
Sorry we still let stupid people vote....

8/5/2017 6:35:35 PM What climate change?  

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Quote from cinnamonnhaze:
Yes! Same as the western parts of the United States.


Yep, and in the 1960's it was hotter than blazes in western parts of the US. Like 120 degrees in Death Valley. 129 degrees in 1960.

It's been pretty nice here in August in Texas.

8/5/2017 6:46:18 PM What climate change?  

cinnamonnhaze
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Quote from catlover418:
Yep, and in the 1960's it was hotter than blazes in western parts of the US. Like 120 degrees in Death Valley. 129 degrees in 1960.

It's been pretty nice here in August in Texas.



No worries.
Word out on the street is that. chump is going to sell Texas to pay off his debt to Putin.


8/5/2017 7:56:30 PM What climate change?  

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Our climate/temperature is directly affected by the sun. There is nothing we can do about that!
Massive wildfires are preventable by controlled burns but libtards prevented it due to global warming! F**king tards!

8/5/2017 8:17:25 PM What climate change?  

cinnamonnhaze
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Quote from cherisays:
Our climate/temperature is directly affected by the sun. There is nothing we can do about that!
Massive wildfires are preventable by controlled burns but libtards prevented it due to global warming! F**king tards!



You are not only delusional but you're a damn LIAR.

Show 1 link or 1 story about how ANY democrats stopped controlled burns.

DON'T LIE IN MY THREAD.



I'm in Minnesota - you know, a BLUE state with a democratic Governor & a budget SURPLUS. We have controlled burns all the time.
The only place we've had any fire get out of control was in the BWCA where there are no roads, no motorized vehicles or boats are allowed. They snuffed out that fire with planes & water drops.
Wanna know why? Because we BUDGET for that!!! Yet we still have our fair share of millionaires & a few billionaires who live here. The difference is, they pay their FAIR SHARE in taxes.

8/5/2017 8:31:30 PM What climate change?  
condor_0000
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Quote from cherisays:
Our climate/temperature is directly affected by the sun. There is nothing we can do about that!
!


Of course, that's not what scientists are saying, rather it's what right-wing politicians and corporate CEOs are saying. And as we all know, Republicans and CEOs would never lie to us for their own personal gain.

8/6/2017 7:07:26 AM What climate change?  

cinnamonnhaze
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Anyone wash away???

Screw you if you have flood insurance! Expect a fight.
You'll be cutting into those corporate profits & those million dollar bonuses.

Buy your own damn houseboat!
Better yet - build an arc!!!

I do suggest you wear your life jacket to bed these days. May as well have a floating bed too. Don't forget to buckle up your puppies.....

8/6/2017 9:47:21 AM What climate change?  

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From the beginning of this concern, what has bothered me the most isn't so much the denial that everything happening is due to humans.

What spells our great suffering going forward, is that those denialists also insist that absolutely nothing at all should be done even to cope with the climate change that is upon us already.

I am a practical and logical solutionist. That means that I don't really care who's fault a problem is, I just want to fix it.

And since ALL of the seriously proposed actions being suggested in order to fight human caused climate change, will ALSO reduce the effects of SOLAR caused climate change, AND since they are things we would want to do anyway, it only makes sense to make the changes.

8/8/2017 5:41:40 PM What climate change?  

cinnamonnhaze
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Meanwhile in Minnesota our high temps are running a bit on the cool side - 70-78 degrees. Just enough rain for record crops. No fires. No floods.

I'm not saying this is good for the planet, but the Bible banger states sure have been getting nailed, huh?

Do you guys have locusts yet....?



8/8/2017 5:55:49 PM What climate change?  
muldoon1959
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Quote from cherisays:
Our climate/temperature is directly affected by the sun. There is nothing we can do about that!
Massive wildfires are preventable by controlled burns but libtards prevented it due to global warming! F**king tards!


Climate myth.

It's the sun
"Over the past few hundred years, there has been a steady increase in the numbers of sunspots, at the time when the Earth has been getting warmer. The data suggests solar activity is influencing the global climate causing the world to get warmer." (BBC)


Climate fact.

Over the last 35 years the sun has shown a cooling trend. However global temperatures continue to increase. If the sun's energy is decreasing while the Earth is warming, then the sun can't be the main control of the temperature.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm

8/8/2017 6:21:15 PM What climate change?  
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Quote from 61falcon:
The permafrost in Siberia is melting causing railroad tracks and roadways to collapse and buckle.There are also gigantic and extremely deep sink holes appearing in Siberia.We have a similar melting of permafrost taking place in parts of Alaska.


They are also scared of releasing bacteria that was trapped frozen, for countless thousands of years.