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10/8/2007 9:11:36 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
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10/8/2007 9:13:24 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
hrt4lse
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Pipin in from CA and a 17 year marriage (been divorced now for 10). Initially I was awarded both child & spousal support. Intially spousal support would've ended upon death of one of us, or my remarriage. Then I was served with Gavron warnings which put a time limit on the spousal support, and the judge said when my youngest graduated from high school. Which was fine with me, I was working, my paycheck covered my rent, the child & spousal support was covering utilities, car payment & groceries. Then things started falling apart...one son wanted to live with his dad so child support was reduced, then my ex was laid off and ordered to get another job, which he didn't do. Spousal support was placed on reserve and I haven't seen a cent of it since 2000. Ex has purchased a house in Napa, several cars and gained custody of the younger son. So now I ended up working 2 jobs and paying HIM child support. I ended up moving out of the area for a better job and have finally been able to purchase a house of my own (with help from the city) and I continue to pay child support until my younger son graduates (he's already 18). You'd think since I've been paying child support that I'd be able to have visitation...but no, my ex has manipulated the system to where I'm not allowed to see him and he's even moved my son out of state so I can't even contact him. Tried to get the court to order him moved back, but they wouldn't do it. Talk about an eye opening experience....I never knew that I was hated so much that he would lie and slander my reputation, even going so far as accusing me of being mentally ill. Yet here again, the courts are so overworked that they don't want to take the time to really look at a situation and see the truth. Oh, btw, I have certification that I'm mentally fit...lol I just try to do my best not to dwell on it, and ignore his requests to pay for his decision to move my son out of state and keep looking for the light at the end of the tunnel....and a new man in my life to make a new start with and do it all the right way (no 2nd divorce for me!!)

10/8/2007 9:17:03 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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HRT, that's just totally wrong. Please keep it together, CA sux ass!

10/8/2007 9:18:23 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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Yeah.. I don't like CA at all. Good luck HTR!

10/8/2007 9:18:30 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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hello....neighbor.....lived in chico,,,many years in the 80-90's.......sorry to hear....i attended law school in so. cal...... i do not practice...i do environmental consulting less stress.... hang in there.... >>>>>>

10/8/2007 9:19:31 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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stress makes ya stop growing just ask me lol

10/8/2007 9:20:38 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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tru......our honeymoon....is planned for disneyland...... a mock....wedding...

10/8/2007 9:20:57 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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OMG, too funny tru

10/8/2007 9:21:33 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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wooooooooooo hooooooooooooo i love disneyland!

10/8/2007 9:22:32 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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well its true steak and i dont appreciate ya laffin at me. If I had any more stress.. i wudda been a midget. now.. is that sad or what?

10/8/2007 9:23:03 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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judge judy is writing my PRE-NUP........

10/8/2007 9:23:05 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
gawd
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HRT..hugs for you..dont give up there is a light at the end of the tunnel

Sunny that is too funny..



[Edited 10/8/2007 9:23:33 PM ]

10/8/2007 9:24:48 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
hrt4lse
Redding, CA
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lol...my picture does look awfully frustrated doesn't it. Thanks steak, I just go day by day & it gets easier. Don't cry as much as I used to unless I'm having a REALLY bad day. Eventually I'm hoping my kids see what their dad has done & come back around to wanting me in their lives (yep, he manipulated them into not seeing me). My new attorney has told me not to worry about ex's demands for payment (that spousal support on reserve comes in handy for something....lol) We pretty much have it figured out that currently, he'd owe me money...so I think it's keeping him from actually taking this into court.

It's also why I'm being picky for the 2nd time around. I don't want to make any mistakes and get married for the wrong reasons. It's going to be for LOVE, and not peer pressure. All us divorced trying to get on with our lives peoples just need to breathe and take it all one day at a time, and not be afraid to ask for help from those who are willing to help us out...whether it's just emotional support, or something more tangible. So...hang in there steak...and every one else



[Edited 10/8/2007 9:26:12 PM ]

10/8/2007 9:25:04 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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HRT needs a big DHU hug

10/8/2007 9:25:09 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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IAM inviting steak to our wedding.....he is the best man...... you need to give him a hug.....................

10/8/2007 9:25:22 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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ok sunny but what about my prenup? ya can't take the marbles I steal.. errr. collected during our mock marriage

10/8/2007 9:26:49 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
hrt4lse
Redding, CA
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Dang, I write too much...lol

Thanks steak.

10/8/2007 9:27:44 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
bartoncreek
Austin, TX
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Initial Threader is WRONG!!! NOT A OPINION.
If you had been my DAD and you did her like he did and your attitude
is what it is now. YOU would be 6 under. "GET A JOB". Better yet how bout
push up daisies dude.

10/8/2007 9:28:17 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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HRT, yeah theADD was kickin in

10/8/2007 9:28:28 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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gawd.....is the maid of honor......>>>>.can i sneak a kiss from her>>>>??

10/8/2007 9:30:00 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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Kisses all around lol

10/8/2007 9:32:44 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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Hershey?

10/8/2007 9:35:08 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
hrt4lse
Redding, CA
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Oh please let's not get into candy, I'm trying to be good...lol

10/8/2007 9:35:46 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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yummmmmmmmmmmm melts in ur mouth kinda kisses gets no better than that

10/8/2007 9:38:51 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

pallyboy
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Listen, I had to file for a number of reasons. But the sickness took my ability to work away and I have two children to support. She left in the middle of some hard times that left me playing creative accountant until I could get it together. She had a corporate paycheck and I had Mac and Cheese and Chemotherapy. Are you trying to tell me I should have been living in a shelter with my kids rather than keep them in the life they had become accustomed to? As in, a roof over their heads and food in their tummies? No, sorry, there is a flaw with this statement. It's not fair either.

10/8/2007 9:41:15 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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pallyboy.....my drinking buddy.....at my happy hour bar......

10/8/2007 9:41:54 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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Nooooooooooooooo Pally! If you read these posts.. we are saying as a whole that it all depends on the individual circumstances!

We didn't come up with this thread.. we simply been throwing thoughts around in here. I do not believe that whoever files should be denied alimony. I think we all can agree that some people do not need to have alimony for 4-5 years while they sit on their butt



[Edited 10/8/2007 9:43:36 PM ]

10/8/2007 9:43:07 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
hrt4lse
Redding, CA
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Nope, in your situation pally, if her income was greatly higher than yours, then she should've been paying you spousal support. My cousin's husband is an attorney in San Diego if you need a referral. He would've helped me, but I live too far away & it would've been too hard for him to get to court in Contra Costa county...lol

10/8/2007 9:44:24 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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No Pally I'm not. Went from 50K to 15K, I think you did the right thing!

10/8/2007 9:44:37 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
hrt4lse
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Are ya done with the chemo?

10/8/2007 9:45:39 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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tru..... iam feeling good right now...... time to kick back....... maybe a few labatt canadian beers..... i will be lusty....

10/8/2007 9:46:44 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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I like canadian beer.. smooooth Not a professional drinker but am trying lol

10/8/2007 9:47:41 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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Gives me a headache

10/8/2007 9:48:09 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
hrt4lse
Redding, CA
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<== doesn't drink.

10/8/2007 9:49:06 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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I never drink enuff for it to make me feel bad.. Ive gone to bars and had diet pepsi to drink. Not a prob for me

10/8/2007 9:49:25 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
gawd
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Here Steak


10/8/2007 9:50:09 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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I hates beeer! Thanks Gawd!

10/8/2007 9:50:38 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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LOL Gawd is a walking pharmacy

10/8/2007 9:51:08 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
hrt4lse
Redding, CA
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Well, getting almost time for Dancing With the Stars...yep...I'm hooked...lol Thanks for the discussion and hope to see ya'll laters. Have a good evening & Steak....no pickin on my picture...lol

10/8/2007 9:51:14 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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i like beers from around the world..... maybe 3 beers max....... hate hard whiskey

a margarita....with fresh strawberries.......with work too,,,,the ladies like those

10/8/2007 9:52:48 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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gawd....you are the maid of honor.....

10/8/2007 9:53:15 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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gimme a bud light lol I'm not worldly like u sunny

10/8/2007 9:54:40 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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10/8/2007 9:57:20 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
bartoncreek
Austin, TX
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sunnyday7 correct me if wrong. You were the thread starter and it
FLAT says DENIED! In a later post you further say GET A JOB.

10/8/2007 9:57:42 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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ya can teach me the fine art of getting drunk.. errrrrrrr drinking lol

10/8/2007 9:58:25 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
gawd
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Any other requests tonight?

10/8/2007 9:58:37 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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Barton it was a question not his opinion

10/8/2007 9:59:28 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
bartoncreek
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not when he said get a job.

10/8/2007 10:00:03 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
gawd
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Now IM getting a headache..pass those asprins Steak..

10/8/2007 10:00:24 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
bartoncreek
Austin, TX
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Can't agree with this thread sorry all. Good night.

10/8/2007 10:00:57 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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LOL gawd.. pass em around

10/8/2007 10:04:43 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
gawd
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Nitie nite all..



[Edited 10/8/2007 10:04:53 PM ]

10/8/2007 10:05:23 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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gnite nancy

10/8/2007 10:07:18 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
gawd
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Nite Trish..

10/8/2007 10:11:28 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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Dammit Trish I'm awake now

10/8/2007 10:13:17 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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dammit it steak.. I'm about to call it a night lol I have to get up at 5 sigh.. but I sure have enjoyed the debate and funnin wiff ya tonight

10/8/2007 10:16:18 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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k, Trish, ya know how to get me! Have a good night!

10/8/2007 10:18:20 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
trublu5ft2
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Ya too Steak gnite

10/8/2007 10:19:48 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  
sunnyday7
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steak.......

10/8/2007 10:20:00 PM Who ever files for DIVORCE (first) should be DENIED ALIMONY>? | Page 4  

steak_king
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G'nite, time for a steak!