it was luck. yeah I have good forsight to advertise and market my company. But being some place as random as a gas station and just happening to run into someone who gives me that size of contract.....idk maybe its fates way of giving back to me for all the hell Ive been thru getting here...but my point being is there are lots of people who work hard and do the right things with their money and still have trouble getting anywhere.

early on there were times i didn't go home from work. Id have a big project Id work 18 hrs sleep for 5 hours in the truck then get going again. 6am to 12am....I am being rewarded for my hard work. but im not blind I see others who do the same thing and because of the system and the way things are going they never gain any traction. Thats what I'm fighting against. Im opposing the conditions that make it harder and sometimes impossible to get ahead. And honestly, I'm not a partisan person in the sense I really don't give a damn about whats democrat or republican or liberal or conservative. If i see stuff going on that I do not like it pisses me off reguardless of who is pushing it.

So, the reason I can sympathize with the ows movement on some issues there is some validity to them.....

Getting money out of politics
Upset because hard work isn't rewarded anymore....however investment is
The fact the 1% gets bailed out and the 99% pay it.

Theres alot of things that aren't sitting well with alot of people. If you research this and really get into whos really down there and who is protesting its not just hairy






Get money out of politics - DC has been promising that for generations.
Hard work is rewarding for those who bother to stick with it.
The 99 bailing out the 1's - then they need to be protesting DC not WS. The 1% would not have recieved the bail out if the government did not want to. So really, who fault is it. Did you ever get all the toys you asked Santa for?
















dirty druged up hippies.....its alot of middle income people. and of course students. If there wasn't real problems with this system the middle class wouldn't give up the comfort of their homes to protest...Ah hell Idk.

I challenge the snake!! I'm not talking about the people who pay nothing in taxes. I'm talking about the middle class family who pays 28% of the their money in taxes but warren buffet (and he has even came out and said) he paid 17% in taxes. He has said he should be paying more in taxes. I have never said its okay for poor folks to get more taxes than they paid in. What I am saying however the system now as it is setup, is setup to favor the wealthiest people.

As a percentage, I pay less than folks who work for me. It's wrong. And as far as creating jobs, you don't have to kiss my a** or let me rob the treasury by not paying my fair share for me to create a job. I need an increase in aggregate demand. Not a tax break. Heres why:
** I didn't get to the place Im at by just spending money. So im not going to create a new job because you give me a tax break. I'm going to say thanks for the free money and Ill probably not spend that extra money either.

Thats why tax breaks for the rich don't work....and if they are...please tell me how?

However give it to middle class, theyll spend it. Thatll create jobs and lots of them. And since their spending money they'll create more rich people.

Look heres the deal, with wealth comes responsiblity. And part of being responsible is paying your fair share. And trust me, I have the right to say this. I know what is it looks like and the rest of the country is getting fleeced.

So Queen when is OWS going to preotest Barney Frank and him not "overseeing" congress's insider trading that took 60 minutes to exspose. When Queen, When? If you want the 1%, there they aree, all in one house.

OK, let's try this: Let everyone pay. Nobody gets a free ride, nobody gets money they didn't pay in, just go flat on income no matter now much anyone makes they allpay exactly the same pecent. Currently the IRS returns half the money collected to people that paid nothing in. That needs to stop.

Buffet pays 15% on capital gains because most of his income is long term investment income. Everyone pays 15% on stock sale profits if the stock held longer than one year. If they hold the stock less than a year they pay whatever their income tax rate is. For me with state and federal that is 33%.

That myth about him paying less than his secretary is crap. Even in that case the secretary would pay much less in total dollars than the millions he pays on his investment returns. It might be possible if his secreatry earned enough that the secretary paid a higher percentage because of the difference between income tax rates (28%) and capital gains rates (15%), but there is no way he pays less total dollars than his secretary. It's a play on words. When he said more he did not specify how much money, he was referring to the tax rate.

It is another myth created by a play on words and less than the full story.

Yes, you have to think through them. You have to think beyond bandaids and get to the heart of the problem.

Poor people getting money for anything and middle class tax cuts create inflation faster than they can keep up with it. Because there is no real money to pay for these things, the government prints money. The more they print the less it is worth (inflation).

Then they have to give poor people more of the less valuable money and any tax breaks to the "middle class" go up in the smoke raised by the very same inflation. The "rich" are already paying over 90% of the money collected in taxes. Collecting more money from them doesn't sovlve anything because if you took all their money it wouldn't be enough to make a even a tiny dent in the debt this drunken government is creating.

Thinking it through a little more, lets reduce this to the lowest denominator. The answer is easy...stop printing money, stop paying people to sit around, stop spending what you don't have and things will eventually catch up and be normal.

A dollar a week would feed a large family in 1930 America. The same family costs over $200 a week to feed today. Why? Inflation.

Government monetary policy is to spend more and print more and all it does is kick the can down the road without helping anyone. The problem is they kick it faster than anyone can run to catch up with it. That results in the suffering of the middle class. It has nothing to do with rich or poor or taxes. It has to do with spending. Period.

well we agree on one thing. the fed needs to stop printing money. youre right about that.... we clearly disagree on somethings here, however I wonder if the reason the fed is printing the amount of money they are is because of the debt. Think about it. If inflation sets in and drives up the cost of everything eventually pay has to rise as well. which means more tax dollars collected on the higher income (even though it buys the same amount or less of goods and services)... if we have to pay yesterdays debt ie. 15tillion with tommorrows inflated money, doesn't it seem like that number isn't as bad as it seems? well not to us but to the govt

Sane monetary policy along with middle class tax relief we would see a recovery.

We won't see any meaningful recovery until governments all over the world stop spending money they don't have. They have promised too much to too many and don't have the money to pay up. Until they are all bailed out, and the only way to do that is stop spending, there can't be a recovery.

I read recently that with Obama's new demand to borrow another trillion plus the nations debt will exceed 100% of GDP in 2012. Not 2020 as predicted, already in 2012. Not good folks.