It's cold outside

Here in Cinci we have a monthly clean up the hood march. Where a group of us go out through the neighbors that the city does not clean up and spends a few hours cleaning up the streets.

Also its the hardcore members that are willing and able to suffer through the cold... As an occupier we know that like warfare winter is the planning time of life. This is our Valley Forge!!!

Not if you know your history... We are fighting the same fight... just against the money instead of embracing it like our founding fathers did.

In addition to what you said, it is a very different fight. They fought for freedome, not a social hand-out or some form of entitled financial reconstruction. To compare the patriots that have fought, risked life and limb, and made the ultimate sacrifice opf their very lives to the whiners that make up OWS is obscene. The fact that these misguided unfortunates can think for a second that they compare truely reveals how desperately diconnected from the realities of patriotism and sacrifice they are. They need to put the big boy and big girl panties on and get off their little asses and find something realistically meaningful to do. Their current efforts simply make them look like foolish spoiled brats without a clue about anything that is important.

You're giving them too much credit, but then you often do. You try to be ompassionate and agreeable, Drew. That's nice. When I see the OWS crowd what I see are the same people that will emulate Greeks protesting the austerity measures they earned by spending beyond their means. Now that that didn't work they are not happy to find solutions or work to help get out of the mess they are in, they just b*tch and whine about stuff that makes up reality and then run around being a nusiance and burning things.

Wall Street didn't get bailed out. A few of the financial institutions that are included in it did, but not the whole thing. For example, Stevens Group planned and didn't need one. They saw it coming and didn't get involved in the shenanigans of other firms. They prospered on their own.

The auto companies didn't get bailed out, either. The bailout preserved the unions. That was the only focus of the progressives in charge of government. Had Chrysler and GM gone down, they would have come back an prospered on their own. The union contracts would have been null and void.

The bail out preserved the unions and that status quo. The focus was on preserving labor unions. Why not? 95% of government workers are in a union. Only 5% of union membership today is in the private sector. 95% works for our local, state and federal governments. Without that 5% the government workers would have nothing to back their claims of "equality and solidarity" with other workers. They would soon lose their power to rob and steal from the rest of us as a result. Saving labor unions was critical to their continued golden place among us.

OWS is just an extension of progressive liberal policies that promote the transfer of wealth through the threat of government sanction. Try not paying your taxes to support government programs and see what you get.

OWS is an obscene joke. Period. Nothing more or less than another tool of liberal progressives that want to transform America into a socialist quagmire. Just another unknowing tool of the social elite that are destroying the very fabric of America.

That's just the plain unvarnished truth.

I have tried to tell you guys many times that the OWS movement is happening all over the world. With cell phones and internet we do not need a lying government telling us what to believe but instead the populations, everyday working people all over the world are having their protests just like we are and we are all in contact.

Why do you think they wanted to get the NADA bill passed? so they could control what information is going over the internet and shut down anyone that was talking about things they don't like? After all they have called OWS a low level terrorist group. Now they are trying to pass a bill to stop protesting altogether.

People have overturned their governments by protesting in massive numbers.

YOU are not a rich man you just think you are and pat yourself on the back for doing it all on your own. Nobody ever helped you or loaned you money.

At the time of the car bailout the banking system was crashing and NOBODY was loaning money. If GM had failed there would have been soo many more layoffs that we would have hit the bottom of depression because millions and millions of people that do not work for the auto makers but are involved in making parts for the car industry. They have been the largest part of our workforce for a hundred years. When you drive a truck you see how many companies are involved in car making. The next largest being food.

Are you deaf, dumb and blind? There are 20 million people looking for work or more than part time work? Where have you been the last 10 years to not have any idea what trouble we have been in? Drop dead cause you bring nothing to this world but another hateful person that we don't need.

You and Jb need to go live with the apes and be the survive or die. That is just the same as you want for anyone that has not had your advantages. How long could you keep up your payments if you lost your job and at your age it would not be easy to get another. Of course we would not want all to know that your job is one of those union jobs that you are attacking others for having.