| 8/26/2012 8:49:02 PM |
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rhw044
Springfield, ME
58, joined Jun. 2012
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To be elected you need to have worked for a living. Salary won't't exceed the 40th percentile of your constituents... including pwrcs. Health benefits won't exceed that of you constituents.
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| 8/27/2012 1:44:32 AM |
Time for a new political party |
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jokethem
Kansas City, KS
63, joined Feb. 2012
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you can be the poorest sob and someone will have a complaint about you.
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| 8/27/2012 7:15:09 PM |
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shawnsr33
Dayton, OH
46, joined May. 2011
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ya keep dreaming ,the haves view you as a dreaming slob that will never get the dream you dream about. So your still stuck were you hate it the most.... the have nots
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| 8/28/2012 11:35:32 AM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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The French did something similar to what you propose during the French Revolution. Look at where France is today.
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| 8/30/2012 7:50:29 PM |
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rhw044
Springfield, ME
58, joined Jun. 2012
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I know I'm tilting windmills, but tried to have an intelligent discussion that night with a rabid Obama fan who couldn't even give me one thing that he has done in his 4 year term.
But what do you expect from a socially engineered candidate?
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| 8/30/2012 10:19:39 PM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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Brilliant!
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| 8/31/2012 9:26:38 AM |
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jrbogie1949
Ventura, CA
68, joined Mar. 2009
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if you affiliate with ANY political party, you're part of the problem with politics in america.
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| 9/4/2012 10:00:51 AM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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There is a very good rationale for a new kind of politics. Whether it is a new political party or simply a major change in the philosophies of those we have is questionable. Both parties now in power have served the American people very poorly.
Our greatest danger is the deficit created by government. When Obama took office he said, "The only measure of my success as president is when people look back five years from now or nine years from now is going to be, Did I get this economy fixed?"
The government can't fix the economy by playing with it. The unemployment rate was 8% and remains stubbornly at or above 8%. Americans underemployed or no longer actively seeking employment is 34.2% of "job seekers". Welcome to the recovery.
Bernanke talked of an imporving ecomony in 2009 that didn't happen then and has not. Geithner welcomed the recovery two years ago that hasn't happened either. In spite of talk of "glimmers of hope", "the recession is over", none of it has come to pass.
Under Carter the debt ceiling was a trillion dollars, Reagan about 3, Bush I a little over 4, Clinton 6 tillion, Bush II10 trillion and Obama is at 16 trillion and Obama needs more. Since Congress appropriates funds they are as complicit as these presidents.
Five things must track reasonably close together to maintain a stable economy. When they get out of balance a danger zone is created that can result in economic devastation. As long as debt, money supply, interest rates, inflation, and wages trend merrily along together the economy remains reasonably healthy.
Today interest rates, inflation and wages are tracking together in the toilet while debt and money supply soars along in the stratosphere. That gap creates a danger zone that is significant and very dangerous.
For the economy to regain health, that gap must be closed. If it does not, the economy will collapse and the current recession that continues in spite of the smoke and mirrors accounting of the current administration and Congress we will be bankrupt. For a nation that means we will fall into a full fledged depression that will take a decade or more to resolve.
If wishes were horses all beggars would ride seems to be the new reality in America. With one third of Americans on some sort of government assistance and slightly over half of taxpayers supporting the 49 percent that pay no taxes and actually get more back than they pay in we have a train heading for a chasm where the bridege is out.
Unless something changes radically and very soon it is not a question of whether the train goes over the edge, but when.
The big question is are you and is the nation better off than 4 years ago? Like Obama said, "you didn't do that.". He's right, the govenment did. Look where it has led us. To the brink of pain and suffering that will soon manifest with everyone and drag the entire world economy along with us unless some really uncomfortable and painful steps are taken very, very soon.
It doesn't matter what party has the guts to change course and get things back in shape. What matters is that enough politicians somewhere grow some balls so we can get back on a path where each American has the freedome and opportunity to succeed. Government has proven it isn't capable of it. Smart politicicians know what to do and severely limiting and curtailing the power of government and getting it out of the lives of people is the first critical step.
[Edited 9/4/2012 10:03:49 AM ]
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| 9/4/2012 10:58:18 PM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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Oh, boy. Just finished watching the entire Democratic Convention on C-Span....no talking heads, just my own perceptions.
Kathleen Sebelius said that's what change looks like. Obmam care is our savior. Not. It will bankrupt us pure and simple. It will cost more than SSI, medicare, and medicaid combined. Only a communist could have such a notion and think it's plauseable. It will only create more debt and we can't tolerate the debt we already have. Foolish notion.
Rom Emmanuel talked abiot who listenes to Obama...well, it's people with their hands out. People that get somthing for nothing sitting on their asses. We have a once in a lifetime president...Me thinks God hope it is only this once. We can't tolerate or afford any more of him.
Julian Castro, Mayor of San Antonio....he wants a new "American Century". One where illegals can come and do as they please and steal what we have built over he last 250 years because they have a vision of bettering themselves....oh shit, go back to Mexico and change the system you have instead of relying on us to feed and rescue you. Grow some balls and change your own freaking country! It's all about a tomorrow when what is all about AMerica is dead and we fly the Meixican flag instead of our own? What a fool! And that part about everbody pays their fair share? How can that be when almost half pay nothing. How can paying nothing be fair?
Elaine Brey got sucked in my the magesty of Obama and company. I bether children that are serving were ready to throw up after they heard her introduction of Mischele. As a soldeir I would have in spite of my Mom's emotions. Poor lady was sucked in because she cares about her kids. Normal behavior for a mom.
Michelle tells us the country was built by doing the impossible...misconstrued. It might have seemed impossible to fight the British and win in the revolution, but we did it independently and not as a result of some central government's coersion. Obama had humble beginnings? Well shit, so did Rockerfeller. He sold newspapers before he started in industry. Oama was "raised by an absentee father from some African place and then by a Muslim in Indonesia. Beginnings? Not hardly American in any sense. No wonder he is so confused abouit what American's are. He never learned to be one.
He sent two budgets to Congress, Both the House and the Senate rejected them zero to the rest. What does that say about his objectives? When even our congressmen and senators can't even givbe him one single vote it is pretty sad. Work with him? You can't. It's his way or no way and being a fool he is too stupid to see it. Fact is according to her speech if you listened closely is that Obama don't care if you are Republican or Democrat. As long as you are a socialist you are good to go.
She wants evryone to have a chance. Well, fact is they do because and chances aren't given, they are taken. Often that ends in failure, but sometimes it is worth it. Everyone can't be a millionaire, but everyone has an equal chance of being one.
Bailing out the auto industry didn't save jobs. The same jobs would have been available after bankruptcy. They just wouldn't have been sweet union jobs worth more than evey other Americans' job. Again, patisan drivel.
Her words confirm that her husband is a socialist at best, perhaps a communist. The thought that everyone has to do their share in spite of their contributions or others lack thereof is telling. In her words she tried to equate the wisdom of the founders of this great nation with the ideals of Marx and Lenin. That is simply disgusting to me. If it were not so why did we oppose communism for three quarters of a decade?
These people surely want to transform America into something new and bold. Regardless, it is already more perfect than any other place on the planet so why should be bow to our lessers and drag oursevles to their level of oppression? Thats what government does these days...oppress. That's what Obama promises.
Easy slice, not hard to understand. Really wish it wasn't so damned disgusting because it will be difficult to sleep just thinking about the profanity of it all.
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| 10/14/2012 1:26:44 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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All political parties in America have taken a stand to support Breast Cancer Awareness.
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| 10/24/2012 11:36:49 AM |
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wow_cool_name
Frederick, MD
31, joined Jun. 2012
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if you affiliate with ANY political party, you're part of the problem with politics in america.
Not at any time. I've never joined any organization—not even the ones I've organized myself. I prize my own independence too much. And philosophically, I could never accept any rigid dogma or ideology, whether it's Christianity or Marxism. One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're right.' If you don't have that, if you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated. The greatest crimes in history have been perpetrated by such religious and political and racial fanatics, from the persecutions of the Inquisition on down to Communist purges and Nazi genocide.
-Saul Alinsky
Political affiliations imply that loyalty to your party trumps loyalty to your country.
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| 10/30/2012 10:29:44 PM |
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rhw044
Springfield, ME
58, joined Jun. 2012
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-Saul Alinsky
Political affiliations imply that loyalty to your party trumps loyalty to your country.
Only in recent times... welcome to the "ME".generation.
When you vote next week, if ypu don't like Gary Johnson write in Ron Paul. Neither will be elected; yet if enough of is show our discontentment we can make a difference.
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| 10/31/2012 12:47:23 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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Only in recent times... welcome to the "ME".generation.
When you vote next week, if ypu don't like Gary Johnson write in Ron Paul. Neither will be elected; yet if enough of is show our discontentment we can make a difference.
WRONG!
If enough show their discontent and cause divisivness in the poll tallies then the truth of the matter is that the country will wind up with the 2nd best choice for the people... not what the people really want. Why vote for a known-loser except to sway the vote toward one party (Republican or Democrat)? ... That is a 'defeatist' attitude and a cowards way of not voting for a qualified candidate.
VOTE your choice ... but make your vote count. (The electoral college casts its vote... but the PEOPLE, by popular vote, control the government.)
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| 11/1/2012 4:05:48 PM |
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belphegor1943
Austin, TX
34, joined May. 2012
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WRONG!
If enough show their discontent and cause divisivness in the poll tallies then the truth of the matter is that the country will wind up with the 2nd best choice for the people... not what the people really want. Why vote for a known-loser except to sway the vote toward one party (Republican or Democrat)? ... That is a 'defeatist' attitude and a cowards way of not voting for a qualified candidate.
VOTE your choice ... but make your vote count. (The electoral college casts its vote... but the PEOPLE, by popular vote, control the government.)
I disagree.
It's not a cowards way out. What is there to be afraid of? If you ask me, it takes more courage to not vote for Romney and stick by your convictions and possible risk another Obama term... than to give in to Romney because he will rule just a little less iron-fisted. It's a vote refusing to give in to the political battered wifes syndrome that I know most of us suffer from.
[Edited 11/1/2012 4:06:45 PM ]
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| 11/1/2012 6:03:56 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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@ belphegor ~~ I respect your right to disagree ... but I also retain the right to disagree with you. That is the American way of civility.
The only thing which does confuse me, however, is your statement about the "abused wife syndrome". How does a man, or a woman who has not been a victim of spousal abuse, supposed to be empathetic, or sympathetic to the true feelings of one who has been the victim of the "abused wife syndrome"?
I say that, for a man to be so presumptious to 'assume' that he could relate to the feelings of a 'battered woman' is nothing more than condescending remarks in order to placate, or worse, demean, a serious societal issue. I cannot make those self-same judgement calls myself.
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| 11/2/2012 7:23:08 AM |
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belphegor1943
Austin, TX
34, joined May. 2012
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@ belphegor ~~ I respect your right to disagree ... but I also retain the right to disagree with you. That is the American way of civility.
The only thing which does confuse me, however, is your statement about the "abused wife syndrome". How does a man, or a woman who has not been a victim of spousal abuse, supposed to be empathetic, or sympathetic to the true feelings of one who has been the victim of the "abused wife syndrome"?
I say that, for a man to be so presumptious to 'assume' that he could relate to the feelings of a 'battered woman' is nothing more than condescending remarks in order to placate, or worse, demean, a serious societal issue. I cannot make those self-same judgement calls myself.
I said political battered wife syndrome.
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| 11/2/2012 4:50:47 PM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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Only in recent times... welcome to the "ME".generation.
When you vote next week, if ypu don't like Gary Johnson write in Ron Paul. Neither will be elected; yet if enough of is show our discontentment we can make a difference.
Depending on the rules in your state, if a third or fourth party candidate gets sufficient votes the party is ligitimized on future ballots. As far as electing a president goes a few votes either way will have little impact on the electorial college. Recent events make me surmise that Romney will prevail.
It may be better to concentrate on state and local issues as individual votes count for much more there. A vote for Johnson for president can help legitimize the Libertarian Party as a viable option in your state in the future. Many more of you independents are probably actually Libertarians than many might think.
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| 11/3/2012 10:41:00 AM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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sooo you did Belp ...
Now you get to extrapolate on how the use of the term can been used to express any political ideology, by a man, to form a foregoing conclusion that a man can possibly express the "battered wife" as a definitive and reasonal deduction of 'emotional sameness' in the political arena, in a man's view of pitting fact against fiction.
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| 11/3/2012 1:03:56 PM |
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belphegor1943
Austin, TX
34, joined May. 2012
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sooo you did Belp ...
Now you get to extrapolate on how the use of the term can been used to express any political ideology, by a man, to form a foregoing conclusion that a man can possibly express the "battered wife" as a definitive and reasonal deduction of 'emotional sameness' in the political arena, in a man's view of pitting fact against fiction.
I am sure that you and everyone else in here understood the meaning behind 'political battered wife syndrome.' But I'll be happy to elaborate:
In the political realm we can choose from the Repubs and the Dems. We flee Republican abuse and elect a Democrat. The Democrats abuse us twice as bad as the Republicans and now we are fleeing the Democats begging to have back what we ran from origionally because it doesn't appear like abuse anymore.
It is just like a battered wife fleeing one abusive boyfriend and taking refuge in one of her prior less abusive boyfriends.
[Edited 11/3/2012 1:06:07 PM ]
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| 11/3/2012 4:16:39 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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I am sure that you and everyone else in here understood the meaning behind 'political battered wife syndrome.' But I'll be happy to elaborate:
In the political realm we can choose from the Repubs and the Dems. We flee Republican abuse and elect a Democrat. The Democrats abuse us twice as bad as the Republicans and now we are fleeing the Democats begging to have back what we ran from origionally because it doesn't appear like abuse anymore.
It is just like a battered wife fleeing one abusive boyfriend and taking refuge in one of her prior less abusive boyfriends.
ahhhh .... so as a man ... you have just committed to the above quoted statement that you have espoused ... which goes to prove that you, as a man, do not have the foggiest notion of what the true "battered wife syndrome" is nor how you (as a man) can apply its very existance in a clearly defined way within the perview of a political ideology. tut tut
What, pray tell, do you observe as being oxymoronish in this portion of your statement?:
"battered wife fleeing one abusive boyfriend and taking refuge in one of her prior less abusive boyfriends"
harumph ....... Men!!!
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| 11/3/2012 5:13:28 PM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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I am sure that you and everyone else in here understood the meaning behind 'political battered wife syndrome.' But I'll be happy to elaborate:
In the political realm we can choose from the Repubs and the Dems. We flee Republican abuse and elect a Democrat. The Democrats abuse us twice as bad as the Republicans and now we are fleeing the Democats begging to have back what we ran from origionally because it doesn't appear like abuse anymore.
It is just like a battered wife fleeing one abusive boyfriend and taking refuge in one of her prior less abusive boyfriends.
I think most of us understood you the first time.
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| 11/4/2012 9:18:57 AM |
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belphegor1943
Austin, TX
34, joined May. 2012
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Pilot, I know someone is just going nuts over it for some reason.
@Cupofcheer, just relax and live up to your name, have a coffee and a smile.
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| 11/8/2012 12:51:18 PM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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Ill vote for libertarian candidates on down the ticket, but for president a vote for gary johnson is great but unless people who would otherwise support obama vote for him too, it just takes away from Romney. I'd love to take over and reorganize the libertarian party. I'd start small and start local. Focus on getting libertarians elected to local govt and state govt. Then focus on federal elections.
That only mattered in battleground states. In my state the difference was huge. Obama never stood a chance. Have you seen the map showing county by county who won? Obama got less than 10% of the landmass of the entire country! The areas he prevailed have high percentages of people on public benefits and illegals. Go look one up on the internet. It's scary that a few small large population centers of people with their hands out prevailed.
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| 11/9/2012 1:03:04 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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I believe the next political party is scheduled for the evening of January 20th ... following the swearing in ceremonies.
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| 12/1/2012 10:10:33 PM |
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gdragn
Lake Worth, FL
55, joined Jul. 2011
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That only mattered in battleground states. In my state the difference was huge. Obama never stood a chance. Have you seen the map showing county by county who won? Obama got less than 10% of the landmass of the entire country! The areas he prevailed have high percentages of people on public benefits and illegals. Go look one up on the internet. It's scary that a few small large population centers of people with their hands out prevailed.
Uh, it's "We the people", not we the real estate... So you're suggesting that the
landowners votes should count more by basis of acreage? Isn't this the syndrome most
european immigrants (original americans) came to america to escape?
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| 12/2/2012 11:56:39 AM |
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58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012
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Uh, it's "We the people", not we the real estate... So you're suggesting that the
landowners votes should count more by basis of acreage? Isn't this the syndrome most
european immigrants (original americans) came to america to escape?
Not at all. All I'm doing is validating what the states knew and feared when they originally determined who should vote. They believed a person must be responsible, knowledgeable, and intelligent enough to participate in the important decisions of governance.
They knew well that unlike good stewards and honest brokers, many would simply vote their self interest and not the intrests of the nation. That is why Jefferson advised that when people learn to vote themselves benefits from the treasury they will bankrupt the nation.
In essence, whether giant corporations or people on public benefits, that is what has happened. For anything to work well it must be governed by responsible patriotic people that know what they are doing and are honest brokers. It is true in business and it is true in government. After all, government is a service business that is limited in what it can do just like any other system.
Allowing poorly educated, ignorant, and mentally incompetent people to affect governance is like letting the inmates of an insane asylum to decide on their own treatments, therapy, and encourageable behavior. If they are incompetent they are, and letting them make important decisions that effect others is simply nuts.
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| 12/21/2012 5:05:12 PM |
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cupocheer
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010
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a new pary or a replacement for one of the old ones?
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| 4/8/2013 6:59:37 PM |
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woodsnut55
Virginia, MN
62, joined Mar. 2013
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Check out the New Progressive Alliance www.newprogs.org It is a combination of Independents,Greens,Democrats, old style Republicans. Maybe new ideas and new hope!
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| 4/11/2013 12:03:18 PM |
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metalshadow6
Dillon, SC
37, joined Feb. 2013
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The Libertarians have gained some strength during the last presidential election. The problem is getting on stage in the debates and getting the new media to pay attention to you. After all, many of the incumbents use taxpayers’ dollars for their reelection. They use taxpayer dollars to partly fun their nation convention, they use it to print flyers to reeducate people in your state about you.
There are other parties out there. Stossel had a minny debate between the candidates of the Libertarian, Constitutional and Communism parties. Even people like Glenn Beck said he was leaving the Republican Party and join the Libertarians. If more people wake up that both major parties are pretty much the same and not for the people they are elected to serve, more will go to the other parties. The more parties that gain strength, the more we will have different ideas. Right not the battle between the DEMs and GOP is like the head and tails side of the penny fighting for control and over here we have a nickel that can do more but very few are even looking at it.
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