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9/15/2012 12:42:38 AM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

pentopaper
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TEN POOREST CITIES
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
...8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000 population) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961.

Buffalo , NY (2nd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1954.

Cincinnati , OH (3rd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1984.

Cleveland , OH (4th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989.
Miami , FL (5th)has never had a Republican mayor.

St. Louis , MO (6th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1949.

El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor.

Milwaukee , WI (8th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908.

Philadelphia , PA (9th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952.

Newark , NJ (10th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1907.

Einstein once said:
'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats yet they are still POOR!
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
THIS IS WORTH PASSING ALONG,







I am not trying to start crap,,i am not finger pointing,,,,,i am asking a legit question,,,,facts are facts,,,,every poor liberal controlled city over the last 25 years is failing

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9/15/2012 1:06:09 AM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

pentopaper
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miami,,,5th worst,,,26.9 of its population is under the poverty line,,,,mi-f**king-amy.....all the billions there and its still ranked 5th worst for poverty level per capita,,,,,something is seriously wrong and you cant continue to blame the republicans for it,,,,a replub has NEVER been in charge

9/16/2012 6:50:46 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

pentopaper
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i belong to the 90% of this nation that are sick of the fighting between both parties,,,nobody is willing to give a inch and that is whats killing this country.

and the birth control thing,,,f**k that,,,if its illegal for me to pay for sex why shuld i pay so you can have sex,,,go to the FREE clinic and get your script and pay the 25bux for your own damn sex life....sorry if i come off as a simpleton but i believe in cutting through the bullshit and i have found most things once the bullshit is done it becoms pretty simple

9/16/2012 8:40:30 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

pentopaper
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and you really trust a bunch of fools who cant even balance a budget to take care of your healthcare,,i mean even hardcore liberals cant possibly believe that one.

go to the repb side i did the same thing over there,,its all y'alls (both sides) one sidedness and absolute refusal to give a inch that is killing this country.

i am a liberal conservitive or maybe a conservitive liberal im not sure....but i truly believe 90% of the country believe the same as i do and that is stop the partisn bullshit. this country is at a total stand still cause everytime a dem says something every repub stomps its feet and screams NO NO NO no matter how great the idea is they cant have it cause a dem proposed it and everytime a repub says something every dem stomps its feet and screams NO NO NO no matter haw great the idea is they cant have it cause a repub proposed it,,,,and you sir sound just like one of those dems


and no it aint my responsability to pay for your birth control,,,go to the free clinic,get your script and pay the 25bux your own freakin self.

9/16/2012 10:02:43 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

pentopaper
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and again,,,you skipped the most important part,,,,,do you really trust the government with your healthcare,these are the same fools who cant even balance a budget and you want to give them the power over your health....i can see it now,,a construction worker comes in with a nail through his head and the bean counter says its a piercing they wont cover it till its infected,,,yea thats a lil over the top but cant you see,,when they get their hands on it it wont be long till they are taxing you for what you eat,,it will be mayor bloomberg on a grand scale.

the poor in city after city continuly elect democrat mayors and city councel members with the promise it will get better and better and the poor never get any better they just get more foodstamps but it never gets any better as the cities crumble around them because they cant pay for what they promise.



[Edited 9/16/2012 10:05:21 PM ]

9/17/2012 12:17:06 AM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

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Why do American's think they have a damn thing to do with the election of the President of the United States. This is a perfect example of what is going wrong in this country. Though most of you will bypass the rest of this post, I am going to educate those of you who really give a crap.

The President is elected by an electorate. (The Electoral College) This group of electors are appointed by s...tate legislatures, NOT ELECTED by We the People. Originally, in our Republic, We the People were represented in Congress by the House of Representatives alone. The states maintained their Sovereignty by retaining the right to appoint the Senators themselves. The Senators were appointed by the state legislatures and together with the House the electors from each state were appointed. No one group had the direct ability to elect a President because the people were represented by one group, the states by another, and the president was a product of both. But unlike today, this was a time when the words Democrat and Republican represented two entirely different styles of government.

It was in a tricky progressive move, in 1913, that the 17th amendment was ratified. This allowed for the direct election of the Senators by We the People. This effectively created a pure democracy out of a democratic republic. It is also interesting to note that the Federal Reserve and the Income Tax Act were created at the same tme. The problem was not so readily appearant in 1913, but with modern media control, the manipulation of the masses is very easy to see. Today the candidate that wins is the candidate desired by the controllers of the media. Any idiot knows the power of television. Today, we are at the point that every candidate available is the same guy in different clothes. Goerge Bush Jr and Sr were just as bad as Obama when it comes to economic views. Obama is just headed over the cliff quicker. Romney will slow things down a bit, but the cliff is still approaching very fast and we have now run out of time to break. We have elected so many progressive socialists in to office by now that there is nothing else to choose from in the political arena. The minute a political hopeful mentions traditional values in their PRIVATE circles they are ostracized and rendered impotent and uneffective. They are then replaced by a wolf with big promises in the next election.

We have been duped people. And it has all been over the control of this nations currency. As long as your government is in bed with the Federal Reserve you are doomed to be a slave and your posterity will be born for destitution. Get ready for it. Even though Article 1 section 10 of the constitution guarantees you a substance backed currency, your government has used the 14th amendment to undermind your rights and has forced you into the use of a fiat debt based paper promissory note as a medium of exchange called legal tender. Legal Tender does not equal Lawful Money.

Well I say I AM the child of GOD. I have rights that are governed by the laws of nature and of nature's God. (see Declaration of Independance) And those laws dictate that anything built on a fraud is itself a fraud. The Federal Reserve system is a fraud and any debt presumed to be built on that fraud is itself a fraud. My Christ has paid for ALL debts, for which he teaches us all to pray. ALL debts have been paid in full for those who accept, and CLAIM, the payment. I AM in debt to no one and I beg anyone to prove otherwise. So...

I call for not only an audit of the Federal Reserve, but an actual inventory of Fort Knox and the so-called Federal "Reserve." I want to see just how much substance is being used to substantiate their ability to "loan" America its buying power. It is my damn gold and I want to see it...ALL of it!!! And I want any public servant that refuses or interferes to be tried for treason. Is that not reasonable? Is that not what is guaranteed in the constitution? If I am wrong, please let me know, but if I'm right..."LIKE" this and spread it around. Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst. I just hope you know how bad the worst could be.




but im just a idiot conservitive.....that was written by a friend of mine who was a lifelong hardcore liberal who finally seen the error of following 1 party blindly and is now a independant/libertarian,,,,,and you know what,,he aint too far off,,,tell me you cant be a liberal conservitive or a conservitive liberal,,,,,me personally im anti abortion but im also anti death penalty,,, im anti drug but believe the pot laws are assinine,,i believe in getting our money books right b4 i go giving out more handouts

9/17/2012 12:49:05 AM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

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spoken like a true liberal,,,you dont like something you start name slinging and calling stupid.

just like my liberal roomate who thinks if my 14yr. old daughter got preggo a abortion behind my back would be ok

9/17/2012 4:32:12 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

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so you agree that a 14yr. old can have a abortion behind her parents back.

i dont see anywhere i called you names or disrespected you,,,show it to me and i will look and if a apology is needed i will....you are the one that has lowerd himself to name calling and putting down.

and for the record i looked it up and it said miami has never had a repub mayor so i printed it as truth,,,and you set me strait as to why miami has never on paper had a repub mayor but in reality they have & i accepted that. BUT you forgot about the other 9 cities that are swimming in debt and unemployment that have consistantly elected dem mayor after mayor and county board of directors yet it gets worse and worse by the year.

take a look at 2 states that are and pretty much always been liberal,,california & new york,in theroy they shoud be the richest states yet they have the highest tax rates,both swimming in debt & the biggest exodus of people leaving than the rest of the country because the taxation is so high nobody can afford to start a buissness there,,you cant blame that on the repubs the dems have pretty always been in control.



[Edited 9/17/2012 4:34:08 PM ]

9/17/2012 5:21:06 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

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i live in oklahoma city and our economy is booming with the mayor,city council and the gov. all being repubs,,,,right now construction is booming,,the oil workers are working,,the ford plant is hiring and commerce is booming,,,unemployment is at 4.3% for the state and 2.7% for the city (seen the report on local news last night),,,right now if you cant find a job in okc you dont want to work.,,,we are not swimming in debt like the rest of the country.



[Edited 9/17/2012 5:23:45 PM ]

9/18/2012 1:57:17 AM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

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i said the oil workers are back to work,,no boom here,,,and yes it was the local polititions,,mick cornet (dem) mayor 1994-2002 got the ball rolling with the maps tax to fix infrustructure then the rebuilding of bricktown with that money,,what used to be the deralick sec. of town known for bums,drugs and such is now restaurants,bars and high class eateries and a great nightlife with the ballpark down there (minor league but built like a pro park) and canals like san antonio tex. running through then the arena was built and the icing was the okc thunder moving in,,now that is complete we are rebuilding downtown and have 2 more years of work there and a 70 story office building was just complete and opend this month with a brand new section of I-40 not repave but brand new about 1/2mi. from the old....and we owe it all to mick cornet (dem) who worked with the local polititions (most repub) and instead of fighting amungst themselves they pulled their heads outta their asses and got the job done,,,,
dont even pretend to tell me how it happend and make assinine statements like "oil just like north dakota" thats not it...this is my city and i know it just as well as you know miami,,,,oil is what broke us in the early 80s when everything went belly up then and over 15 years this city lived on the brink of extinction (like detroit today) but they refused to give up and when the recovery started the point was made that we will never live by only one thing to feed us (meaning oil almost killed us when it went bust)
and the greatest thing to happen,,,and you are gonna hate this cause it go's aganst everything you believe in,,,we the people voted in right to work and kicked the unions out,,when that happend big buissness came running in,,do our factory workers make 30-40-50bux a hour like detroit,,no not even close,,usually between 14 to 17 but guess what,,when the majority of your workers make 15bux a hour then thats what the city sets the cost of living at and last time i checked detroit is failing miserbly and we are booming.



[Edited 9/18/2012 2:00:18 AM ]

9/21/2012 7:07:54 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  
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Quote from pentopaper:
I am not trying to start crap,,i am not finger pointing,,,,,i am asking a legit question,,,,facts are facts,,,,every poor liberal controlled city over the last 25 years is failing


What are you doing here?

You're obviously trying to start shit.

This is a liberal forum for liberals, yet you come here just to torment people with your asinine, misspelled, groundless claims.

9/21/2012 9:00:25 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

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Quote from nanu45:
What are you doing here?

You're obviously trying to start shit.

This is a liberal forum for liberals, yet you come here just to torment people with your asinine, misspelled, groundless claims.



TEN POOREST CITIES
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
...8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000 population) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961.

Buffalo , NY (2nd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1954.

Cincinnati , OH (3rd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1984.

Cleveland , OH (4th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989.
Miami , FL (5th)has never had a Republican mayor.

St. Louis , MO (6th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1949.

El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor.

Milwaukee , WI (8th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908.

Philadelphia , PA (9th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952.

Newark , NJ (10th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1907.





um,,thats not groundless,,,its fact

9/21/2012 9:00:50 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

jnsburks
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Quote from pentopaper:

and the birth control thing,,,f**k that,,,if its illegal for me to pay for sex why shuld i pay so you can have sex,,,go to the FREE clinic and get your script and pay the 25bux for your own damn sex life....sorry if i come off as a simpleton but i believe in cutting through the bullshit and i have found most things once the bullshit is done it becoms pretty simple


This is so ignorant. Birth control is used for many health reasons including extreme cramps (I have a friend who had to be hospitalized), period regulation, a uterine-lining tissue condition that can cause infertility and I could go on. Pick up a f**king book.

9/21/2012 9:07:14 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

pentopaper
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i think the point is,,go to the free clinc get your script and pay the 25bux yourself,,,its easy,,schedule it the same day you pay your 100 dollar cell phone bill and your 90 dollar cable bill

9/22/2012 3:32:50 PM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  
nanu45
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Retard.

10/13/2012 6:34:22 AM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  
thejonman87
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It really comes down to just a few simple things. Many of those cities were built on the basis of manufacturing, the majority of which is gone from the areas for various reasons such as outsourcing. Phil PA and Detroit are big examples of this. Missouri is one of the poorest entire states in the country so it's less a city-based aspect than it is state-wide. The second reason is they're in places where there is a lack of, or a depleted energy resource like nat-gas or oil (in the case of texas). Philadelphia and Buffalo could be changing this soon because of the huge shale gas reserves underneath them. Many of them are land-locked . Miami has a lot of seniors who tend to be a large portion of the people below the poverty line.

There's a lot more to poverty than who's in charge.

10/14/2012 12:03:38 AM Liberals please explane this to me so i can understand  

bravomm85
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I think it is idiotic for so many people to agree with the 1% like they do anything for US. the odds are, if you are on here you aren't rich, and according to Romney, we are dependants of the county, waiting for welfare.
I work 40 hrs a week, I don't get food stamps or government assistance, and I can find a few others who are as hard working yet make nothing. truth is, someone must be poor, there's gotta be someone at the McDonald's where you eat. they make 12000 a year for some of the most difficult work. ans yet, your strategies is too tax them?