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9/19/2012 11:24:41 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

bridge36
Lithonia, GA
28, joined Sep. 2012


Can someone actually give me an educated answer supporting why they are PRO ROMNEY? I'm just curious because I've heard a few people saying they're voting for Romney, but none of them could support the reason why without saying how much they do not like President Obama, or how much they don't support his ideas...and I'm like,"Okay I get it, you DO NOT like the president, but WHY are you voting for Mitt Romney?"

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9/19/2012 11:49:17 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
hellhound56
Over 1,000 Posts (1,378)
Conway, AR
26, joined Jun. 2012


Most people voting for Romney will tell you the same thing. They aren't voting for Romney they are voting against Obama.


Neither is good for America but the communist/socialist shit has to stop now.

9/20/2012 12:11:38 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

jrbogie1949
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,851)
Ventura, CA
68, joined Mar. 2009


nobody can give me an EDUCATED answer as to why they'd vote for either candidate. where would one be EDUCATED on the candidates? the media???

9/20/2012 1:37:31 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
llong3316
Atlanta, GA
36, joined Aug. 2011


Quote from jrbogie1949:
nobody can give me an EDUCATED answer as to why they'd vote for either candidate. where would one be EDUCATED on the candidates? the media???

The last 30 years of elections it has been a lesser of two evils vote...but people hv felt slighted because Obama hasn't provided the "hope and change" as promised and not to mention he's black so they want to give the businessman (Romney) a shot. Most won't give an educated answer because were lazy sheep that rely on the media to help shape our opinions instead of seeking the truth on our own

9/20/2012 3:01:48 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
hellhound56
Over 1,000 Posts (1,378)
Conway, AR
26, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from llong3316:
The last 30 years of elections it has been a lesser of two evils vote...but people hv felt slighted because Obama hasn't provided the "hope and change" as promised and not to mention he's black so they want to give the businessman (Romney) a shot. Most won't give an educated answer because were lazy sheep that rely on the media to help shape our opinions instead of seeking the truth on our own



If that were true ocommie would get 100% of all votes because the news kisses his disgraceful ass

9/20/2012 5:28:44 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
llong3316
Atlanta, GA
36, joined Aug. 2011


Quote from hellhound56:
If that were true ocommie would get 100% of all votes because the news kisses his disgraceful ass
like I said we are lazy..not all media likes Obama (fox)

9/20/2012 7:32:38 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
jokethem
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,151)
Kansas City, KS
63, joined Feb. 2012


not sure just how educated this answer is. I am willing to try a different approach to correcting this economy. It has been slowly but steadly slipping down hill since the last term of bush. I honestly do not believe that obama's staff and or appointees know what their doing as far as economics. I do not know if rummy can do any better but I am will to try. Like ob say, "we tried it their way..." well to me, we have tried it his way and it does not seem to be working.

I do not like rummy but I'm voting GOP. I'm not voting for him, I'm voting against ob.
Let me mention here, I am a life long Demo.



[Edited 9/20/2012 7:34:38 AM ]

9/20/2012 8:08:18 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
llong3316
Atlanta, GA
36, joined Aug. 2011


Quote from jokethem:
not sure just how educated this answer is. I am willing to try a different approach to correcting this economy. It has been slowly but steadly slipping down hill since the last term of bush. I honestly do not believe that obama's staff and or appointees know what their doing as far as economics. I do not know if rummy can do any better but I am will to try. Like ob say, "we tried it their way..." well to me, we have tried it his way and it does not seem to be working.

I do not like rummy but I'm voting GOP. I'm not voting for him, I'm voting against ob.
Let me mention here, I am a life long Demo.


This about as good of an answer you're going to get...well said

9/20/2012 9:28:15 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

jrbogie1949
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (13,851)
Ventura, CA
68, joined Mar. 2009


anybody who would venture an EDUCATED answer for why he/she will vote for a particular candidate will find an EDUCATED one who favors the oposition who will say that the answer proves that he/she never graduated kindergarden.



[Edited 9/20/2012 9:29:02 AM ]

9/20/2012 10:32:56 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
hellhound56
Over 1,000 Posts (1,378)
Conway, AR
26, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from llong3316:
like I said we are lazy..not all media likes Obama (fox)


That's one. One voice in a sea is madness. And even they only go after him with kid gloves.


Quote from jrbogie1949:
anybody who would venture an EDUCATED answer for why he/she will vote for a particular candidate will find an EDUCATED one who favors the oposition who will say that the answer proves that he/she never graduated kindergarden.




I gots my diploma around here somewhere

9/20/2012 4:20:07 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Hey, diplomas and degrees are important! If you have one you can get a job at McDonalds! If you're lucky!

9/20/2012 8:28:28 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
pelham12345
Bronx, NY
35, joined Dec. 2011


I live in new york so my vote is irrelevant, but if it mattered I would vote for Romney largely because it would be a vote against obamas failed policies and 'leadership'.

9/22/2012 11:39:50 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

pentopaper
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (52,079)
Okmulgee, OK
50, joined Nov. 2008


this is a good question....

9/23/2012 12:28:58 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

pentopaper
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (52,079)
Okmulgee, OK
50, joined Nov. 2008


this is my answer,,,


i think both parties suck,,but this is my answer

both sides have their good points and both sides have their bad points period. but right now our debt is our biggest problem and i gotta ask myself do i trust someone who is nothing more than a glorified activist from the most corrupt city in the country or do i trust a proven buissnessman,,,,the choice is simple i trust the buissnessman

9/23/2012 10:07:42 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Quote from pentopaper:
this is my answer,,,


i think both parties suck,,but this is my answer

both sides have their good points and both sides have their bad points period. but right now our debt is our biggest problem and i gotta ask myself do i trust someone who is nothing more than a glorified activist from the most corrupt city in the country or do i trust a proven buissnessman,,,,the choice is simple i trust the buissnessman


Hooray. I agree completely. Record taken into account Obama will only make things much worse, and if the Repubs keep or take enough seats in both or either house of Congress it will be a stalemate for the next 4 years as well if Obama is elected.

I can't speak to states where I don't know anybody but in spite of what the news says, I think the election is not nearly as close as they are calling it. I stated in a previous post that among real, everyday people I know in Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Indiana, and Florida Romney is beating Obama by a factor of 10-20 to one. Makes me wonder if it might not turn out to be a Reaganesque landslide with the major networks wondering what happened?

9/30/2012 10:05:04 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
leannamae
Berryville, AR
23, joined Jul. 2012


Communism could be the best thing for America. People need put there guns down and stop being so greedy and lazy.

9/30/2012 10:09:37 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
leannamae
Berryville, AR
23, joined Jul. 2012


Quote from hellhound56:
Most people voting for Romney will tell you the same thing. They aren't voting for Romney they are voting against Obama.


Neither is good for America but the communist/socialist shit has to stop now.


That was meant for you.
Besides, you could hardly consider Obama a huge democrat. Let alone a communist. Mitt Romney will just screw our economy up even harder. Seems he has no problem keeping his own money out of the country; what's he going to do with ours?

10/1/2012 6:10:28 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Romney paid more in taxes on the money he earned in the private sector than the Obamas earned, and most of what the Obamas earned was public money taken directly from the treasury (taxpayers). The economy is so screwed up at this point that it will collapse completely in 2-5 years unless something radical changes now....not in several years. Those are simple facts, they are not ignorant and nebulous political rhetoric.

10/2/2012 12:58:03 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

pinballwiz10723
Lockport, IL
64, joined Jun. 2010


Romney scares the bejeebers out of me. I have my reasons but I won't bother going into them because it doesn't matter. My Republican friends have become like a cult. Some have become rude and insulting if you don't share their views and they don't even want to hear anything that goes against what Rush Limbaugh decides they should think. I guess it's a lot easier to let Rush do your thinking for you.

I don't mind one party saying our guy is better than your guy--that's politics--but what astounds me is the Repub hypocriscy and they don't see it, or more likely, they refuse to admit it. For example, when Reagan bailed out Chrysler in the 80's, the Repubs said it was a briliant economic move, saved the economy, saved jobs, saved the company, saved the suppliers, blah, blah, blah. But when the Dems recently bailed out the auto companies, all of a sudden it's socialism, let the companies fail, let the free market decide, blah, blah, blah. The repubs seem to like the free market... until something goes wrong--then it's why doesn't or why didn't the government do something? Why did the government let those banks, insurance companies, brokerage houses, etc., make those risky investments, blah, blah, blah. So if the Repubs bail out a company it's brilliant economics but if the Dems do it, it's socialism. I think Jesus said somewhere in the bible that hypocrites are a**holes. Maybe he didn't use those exact words, but I'm sure that's what he meant and it probably got lost in translation.

10/2/2012 10:03:03 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Quote from pinballwiz10723:
Romney scares the bejeebers out of me. I have my reasons but I won't bother going into them because it doesn't matter. My Republican friends have become like a cult. Some have become rude and insulting if you don't share their views and they don't even want to hear anything that goes against what Rush Limbaugh decides they should think. I guess it's a lot easier to let Rush do your thinking for you.

I don't mind one party saying our guy is better than your guy--that's politics--but what astounds me is the Repub hypocriscy and they don't see it, or more likely, they refuse to admit it. For example, when Reagan bailed out Chrysler in the 80's, the Repubs said it was a briliant economic move, saved the economy, saved jobs, saved the company, saved the suppliers, blah, blah, blah. But when the Dems recently bailed out the auto companies, all of a sudden it's socialism, let the companies fail, let the free market decide, blah, blah, blah. The repubs seem to like the free market... until something goes wrong--then it's why doesn't or why didn't the government do something? Why did the government let those banks, insurance companies, brokerage houses, etc., make those risky investments, blah, blah, blah. So if the Repubs bail out a company it's brilliant economics but if the Dems do it, it's socialism. I think Jesus said somewhere in the bible that hypocrites are a**holes. Maybe he didn't use those exact words, but I'm sure that's what he meant and it probably got lost in translation.


Reagan's bailout was different. Chrysler was the only manufaturer of the then new M-1 Abrams main battle tank that was critical to replacing aged equipment and supporting national defense. The Abrahms was technologically important due to the then new Russian 122 mm smooth bore sabot anti tank round fired by their T-72 and newer T-80 tanks that cut through our older tanks like butter.

Obama's bailout of Chryselr and GM was not to save companies or executives or preserve a critical element of national defense. It was to protect UAW (union) contracts. Both companies could have gone bankrupt and reorganized easily, but that would have voided current union contracts. That was the purpose of this last bailout. Preserve the UAW. Because the two "bailouts" were for very different reasons they cannot be used as a comparative justification for one another.

AS far as risky investments it is important to remember that pressure from Congress primarily pushed by Barney Frank caused them. In requiring banks to make risky loans so all could achieve the dream of home ownership, they basically forced banks and investment firms to make risky investments to make up for loses in mortgage markets. That bet didn't pay off for sure and there is plenty of blame to go around there.

All in all, every time government gets involved in trying to control markets, private industry, and private lives things go to hell. Obama and company promise to continue and expand central government's invovlement in running things, something the government is very bad at. Romney or anyone else could hardly do worse. I don't think it's possible to do worse. What is certain that continuing on the government's present path in 2-5 years we are going completely bust in a very big and painful way.

10/2/2012 6:04:02 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
pelham12345
Bronx, NY
35, joined Dec. 2011


All true except the end, as i recall most analyists figure the govt could string complete and utter collapse out by 10years. But yea, current spending is entirely unsustainable. And the whole 99% nonsense is complete nonsense. The math was done and if the govt taxed every millionaire in the US at a 100% rate, it would only fund the govt for 88.5 days. But then of course millonaires would cease investing and/or bothering to earn money and sit back and live off existing funds.. Reducing the govt tax revenue off the wealthy to zero..

10/3/2012 3:11:21 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
jokethem
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,151)
Kansas City, KS
63, joined Feb. 2012


Quote from leannamae:
Communism could be the best thing for America. People need put there guns down and stop being so greedy and lazy.



Before long, we will need our guns to go out to hunt and kill our food.

10/3/2012 4:41:26 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
saintsfan21083
Mount Vernon, OH
34, joined Sep. 2012


I think, like most people have said, I am just voting against Obama. I didn't like Obama before he became president. And before anyone says I don't like Obama because he's black or Muslim or democrat, my reasons have nothing to do with those things. First of all, I don't vote for people just because they are in a specific party. Second, I don't have a problem with a black man being president, as long as he can do the job. Third, even though I am a Christian, church and state are supposed to be separate, and I don't see where a president's religion makes a difference as long as that law is part of the constitution. There are other reasons I don't like Obama, but I won't express them here. And Mitt Romney's campaign ads annoy me less.

10/3/2012 7:38:49 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
rhw044
Springfield, ME
58, joined Jun. 2012


Quote from jokethem:
Before long, we will need our guns to go out to hunt and kill our food.


Oh,.I think she has a good point. Have you ever met an 18 year old who DIDN'T know all of the answers? I know I sure did at her age.
And communism has worked out so well in other countries...

I just wish that somebody would tell me what Obama has to show for his time in office...

OK, strike one. Now can someone at least say what he has to show for his time BEFORE he was elected?

Talk about a roaring silence.
I won't be voting for Milt, I will be voting against Obama.. like too many elections in the past.
The problem is that in order to become a presidential candidate, you first need to allow your party to cut your nuts off.



[Edited 10/3/2012 7:40:33 PM ]

10/3/2012 11:39:49 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Quote from jokethem:
Before long, we will need our guns to go out to hunt and kill our food.


Ah, but there isn't enough game to feed everyone. Without commercial farming and animal husbandry there are simply not enough edible wild things to feed everyone.



Like tonight's debate....WOW. Obama appeared to be confused especially when Romney corrected him on several standard liberal rhetorical points. I score it Romney 1, Obama 0. Two more to go and one VP on the October 11. I believe the VP debate, while it may not be important, is going to be a freaking hoot!



10/4/2012 8:27:11 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

letsplay54143
Over 2,000 Posts (2,787)
Marinette, WI
70, joined Apr. 2009


Because he is the only other option at this time.

10/4/2012 11:41:48 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


It's all about what you want and where you think your money should be spent. Chicago school teachers make more tha $70K a year working 5 hours a day and a bit over 200 days. I got less than that working 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week and on call 24/7. Who are they to have such a sweet deal? Nobody. Public "servants" are not supposed to be the masters. I'm sick of paying for a special class of government workers that have every advanatage over every worker in the private sector that pays their salaries. Eliminatae those freaking unions and make those dorks work like the rest of us. If they do a poor job do what happens in real life...fire their asses and send them to McDonalds or something. Why in the hell are government workers so much more special than the rest of us? Why?

10/5/2012 6:09:59 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
tinkertoy7766
Scottsboro, AL
55, joined Sep. 2012


romney is for people whove lost hope these past four years.our government is outta control,our seniors are bein taken to cleaners,someone has to step up to bat before we have a socialist government.our guns and freedom is at risk with obama bein a muslim. our forefathers worked and fought hard for this country now it and its morals are in shambles.given the chance with GODS help maybe romney can slowly change our fate!::

10/6/2012 3:08:58 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


If young, healthy women that ran out of welfare couldn't get SSI disability for dubious disabilities we wouldn't have both young and old feeding off social secrutiy with increasingly fewer paying in. I think that in terms of income tax Romney will close the gap by eliminating people getting back more than they pay in. That is as it should be.


10/7/2012 11:28:30 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (279,752)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010




10/8/2012 10:37:52 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Lets see....budget 2.4 trillion, actual expenses 3.8 trillion, deficit 16.2 tillion and we're spending over 40 cents more than each dollar we have. So our credit cards are beyond maxed out and we are still spending overe $1.40 for each one we earn. Pile unlimited medical care under Obamacare and ever expanding gratuties provided to the "poor" on top and you can easliy add a few more trillion.

Well folks we aren't passing this debt on to our children and grandchildren. If we don't cut spending and right now we will be bankrupt long before our children or grandchildren ever have to deal with it. The way we are going in 3-5 years the game will be over. We will enter a full fledged depression as a result of economic collapse sure as the sun rises.

So why vote for Romney? Easy. Vote for Obama and we will meet this reality in 3-5 years. Regardless of whether Romney can fix it, and I doubt he can because only Congress can do that, at least there is a chance. With Obama there is none. We're back to the lesser of two evils.

A depression to day would be very bad, in fact unprecidented.

Note 1: We had a depression in the '30's and it was bad. If we have one now it will be much worse than that one. Why? Back then almost 90% of people lived in rural America and feeding yourself by growing and raising your own food was something most people knew how to do. It was the norm. Today that is reversed. Today 90% live in cities where they don't know how to and can't feed themselves like they could back then. What percentage of people today can grow stuff, can it, raise critters, preserve the meat, and sotre food for later? Very small percent. 50-60 years ago most families could and many did. Today most don't have a clue and can't.

Note 2: We cannot feed the population of America with simple farms, home gardens, and a few chickens and hogs. To be able to produce enough food we must have commerical farms and large animal production operations. Most companies that run those things do so on loans. They borrow money to plant crops and to breed and raise animals for food and pay it back when the food is sold. Without loans the food isn't produced. In a depression there is no money to loan and no way to pay it back. Commercial farming largely collapses and there is not enough food.

Note 3: Without food it all goes to hell quickly. Very quickly. We're not talking about a tough time we have to weather our way through. A depression today risks peoples's very survival. IT means a complete breakdown that will be more than hard, it will be downright ugly and inhumane.

I hope this is just a guess, but I'm sure it is one that is worth considering.

10/9/2012 11:59:11 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Quote from andy505050:
We're not in a depression. It's not sunshine and summertime, but go to your local mall and tell me if we're in a depression. I think the economy has changed. Statistically less people are working than they were before Obama took office, but I think alot of people have already started to adapt. I am very proud of a lot of my friends. A lot of the people I graduated with are now working for themselves. I don't think the people working for themselves are counted in the unemployment rate.

People do what they do and they survive. And it turns out alot of people aren't merely surviving they are thriving. By taking complete personal responsibility and putting to use their talents they are not only surviving this slow economy they are really doing well. I see the roots of our new economy taking shape. Its going to be us young ambitious people putting their talents to good use. And by doing that we are going to create the jobs in the future.

You are right about one thing. A depression today would be a disaster. Especially when most people live on less than a half an acre of land and a house that can't function without electricity etc....

But I don't share your pessicissism about our economic future. I am doing very, very well. Things are getting better. I know places in california, nevada or florida aren't really seeing it, but the rest of us are getting it together.

The economy is terrible for women over the age 55, black people, ex-cons and its still rough for people under 30.

From what I see, there are alot of people starting businesses. I know 1 in 3 of those businesses will fail statistically their first year, but thats not the point. The point is 1 in 3 will survive, and they will create jobs.

So f**k this election, f**k romney, f**k obama.....we will turn this shit around ourselves.

Obama has been a train wreck and Romney is a joke. How can somebody take both sides of an issue and still be taken seriously? Who knows what he believes? F**k em' I'll do fine without either one of them.


You're missing the point. One can hide and cover locally, but the collapse will come from a central government that is so over-extended that it is rediculous. What good is the money that people spend at the mall when the products they buy disappear? In a depression people have money, there is just nothing to buy. What an awakening when you see it happen. No amount of money you make can get you what you want when the products you crave no longer exist. You're taking a short and myopic view and may well be one of those very surprised when you go to the store and the shelves are empty.


10/10/2012 8:53:43 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Quote from andy505050:
What? Okay Nostradamus whatever you say crazy guy! lol.....(pat on the head and give you a popcicle) ^^^

I am confident we will figure things out. I am confident that we will eventually balance the budget, then begin to work on paying our debt down. Im 29. Once more people my age start taking over, and the past generation just goes away.....we'll be better off. Alot of people my age are learning how to live with less. We'll get the debt paid down. I have very little respect for the baby boomer generation as a whole. There are exceptions, but as a whole, I see a group of people who will consume alot more than they ever will contribute. We will make the hard decisions that our baby boomer parents didn't have the fortitude to make. We have been spoiled, but we have also gotten our asses handed to us in the recession. We get it now. Young people that voted for hope and change 4 years ago now understand that the only hope and change they will get is what they give themselves.

Besides, even with all of our problems, somehow we still have the worlds largest economy. Being in that position, do you really think our trading partners would really let us fail? I'm not saying we can continue to spend ourselves into oblivion, but its not in anyones best interest for us to fall. Even our enemies need us in one way or the other economically.


Well my condescending young friend (as I render a playfull pat on your head and ruffling of hair as you stand there in your splendidly youthful ignroance...reminds me of Andy lamenting Opie Taylor's childlike optimism) you have no idea what "less" is. How can one explain the lack of the things your parents made so easy to have that you take for granted?

Your very statements clearly show you have absolutely no idea what "hard" decisions are. Fir example, the relative size of our economy compared with other nations is not relevant when all economies fail. The consequences of that kind of event are lost on your easy living and entitled generation. The idea is so foreign to your way of thinking it is not possible for you to even imagine. It is impossible for you to even begin to live day to day under such circumstances. My daughter is older than you at 34 and in spite of my best efforts cannot do it either.

You should go ask your grandparents about how "it used to be" and ask them about what their parents had to say about the last time we went through such a thing. The answers probably wouldn't matter much to you because they are beyond the limits of your imagination.

Where you need half a substation just to power the electronics in your home in my youth 25% of our populations had no access to electricity at all. While you feel green when you have a recycle trash bin we turned bottles in for the deposit where they were taken back to the factory, cleaned, refilled and used again. Diapers were not something you put in the trash, you rinsed them out, washed them, and hanged them on the line to dry.

Most people canned food at home every fall so they had stuff to eat in winter. 90% lived where they could and actually knew how to do that. Today it is reversed and we cannot even begin to feed them without commerical farming. Without banks there are no commercial farms so there is no food you don't make for yourself. Imagine every restaurant and gorcery store in town being closed forever. Where and what would most people today eat? Short answer? They wouldn't.

As far as yong people taking over, youths put Obama over the top in the last election. That is what the wisdom of our youth contributed. But that is probably older people's fault for not doing a better job raising, educating, and training you. Trust me young fella, you have no idea about what's coming.



Youngun', you have no idea.

10/11/2012 3:41:30 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


That's nice, but there are not enough fish in the rivers, creeks, and lakes to feed the entire population. Nor are there enough deer and rabbits and squirrels and birds and other critters even if you count pigeons and sparrows.

The point is that almost all of our food companies operate on credit. If there is no money for them to borrow they can't operate. They can't buy feed, or fuel, or breed stock, or run processing plants, or buy trucks, or even paper for their copy machines. They would close.

Without them we can not produce enough food to feed our population. If their operations are interrupted the delicate balance that allows them to produce so much food will also break down. Even a modest interruption would take them months to recover from, but store shelves will be empty of all fresh foods within days and a few weeks for frozen, preserved, and processed foods. Ever see how fast a store runs out of stuff if the trucks don't come for a few days?

There would also be no exports of food at all so it would really suck to be living in a country that must import the bulk of what it eats. With that situation comes the threat of them not taking it lying down. Just like your neighbor that has run out of food for his family, in desperation they might try to take what little others have by force. People get really ugly when they're hungry, and even uglier when it comes down to survival.

I suppose the governemnt could bail out the food companies like it did the unions, but with what? Perhaps they can simply take over and order them work for free? Now that's a nice thought, the government finally in control of everything. In that case we would all starve for sure!

I know the effects of a modern depression are uncertain. However any thought experiments reveal that this little recession will absolutely pale by comparison. In the best case it will take generations of depravation before any recovery. In the worst case society in general will break down....what fun that will be. A kind of "Zombie Apocolypse" could become reality!

It's food for thought kids. The economic problems need to be fixed now. If they are not there is danger of a depression as many economists have warned. The effects and outcomes of such an economic disaster are difficult to imagine. Getting through it involves much more than a little gardening, hunting, and fishing, and barter.

Ya think that's maybe where all these disaster and post apolyptic movies and TV shows are coming from? Does Hollywood and the governemnt know something we don't? Good lord what fun this is....conjuring up fun stuff to do if things fall apart? Fun, fun, fun!!!



10/11/2012 10:04:02 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
cupcakecutie2
Windham, ME
59, joined Sep. 2012


Have to say and yes I'm a baby boomer and proud of it.I agree with the older gentlemen.And if you don't think he knows what he's talking about just read revelation,
it will give you all the information you need where this country is going.
Personally I don't think we have much to choose from,but I think from a Christian standard I will be voting for Mitt Romney

10/11/2012 5:29:16 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

belphegor1943
Over 7,500 Posts!! (8,543)
Austin, TX
34, joined May. 2012


The ironed crease in his pants are more chrisp than Obama's.

10/12/2012 9:06:20 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Quote from andy505050:
I have read revelations. What Im saying is im not living my life like tommorrow it will all end. i wont live my life in fear. and i swear sometimes i think some people want all this bad shit to happen.


You're right. There is no sense in brooding about it. Life goes on. But it is still important to recognize the potential of it and prepare a little.



10/12/2012 4:59:09 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Forget the green shit. There are much bigger problems.



10/14/2012 8:37:18 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Quote from andy505050:
Truth is we aren't going to solve these problems in a decade. Everyone who reads this will be long dead before the problems solved anyway. But we have to start somewhere.


Yep, you always have to start somewhere, but you start by testing and developing before you squander a fortune on something. Squandering hundreds of billions of taxpayer money on something that obviously isn't ready for prime time is worse than stupid, it is criminal.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/13/Danish-Wind-Turbine-Company-That-Received-Over-50-Million-In-Stimulus-Lays-Off-800-Workers



[Edited 10/14/2012 8:37:57 AM ]

10/14/2012 1:39:36 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (279,752)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


(this post has been flagged as inappropriate, sorry.)

10/15/2012 11:02:40 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
wolfgard_h
Over 2,000 Posts (2,246)
Saint Paul, MN
54, joined Oct. 2010


After watching the recent PBS 2 hour special on Obama and Romney it amazes me that anyone that works for living would vote for Romney.
We could definitely do better than Obama,it's unlikely we could do worse than Romney.
Romney was a Corporate Raider that gutted companies to make a few rich at the expense of many.
When you continually do this you destroy the Economy.
He's one of culprits of the Economic situation we are now in.
Some of those Companies are more efficient but the people whose jobs were eliminated have no money to buy anything.
You have to create jobs for the people whose jobs you eliminated.
Romney never created jobs and had no concern for Employees only Investors.
If you're willing to take a chance on him you're either a Millionaire a Mormon or a Moron.
His supporters should be know as the M&M's.
Obama at least appears to care about people.
Romney wants to fulfill his fathers dreams and become President for what he gets out of it for himself.
FYI I'm not voting for either of them.

10/16/2012 3:28:46 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Quote from andy505050:
Yea, its wrong to blow that kind of money on failure. The answer in all this green technology will not come from blowing billions on def**kt companies. Some tech guy messing around in his garage will come up with a brilliant idea. Its always some creative genius that comes along with ideas that are revolutionary and changes the way we all live.


Unless govt messes it up. There is a guy in New Jersey who had figured out to store solar power in huge batteries. I don't remember all the details, but basically it was a crude way of storing large amounts of solar energy. The problem with solar is its hard to store the energy. He cracked the code so to speak. But days before he went public with it Chris Christy himself ordered the operation to be shut down. I read this in popular mechanic magazine. Keep in mind this guy wasn't bothering anyone, and this was in his own back yard. Not only was he shut down, his home was confiscated and he recieved a 500,000 fine. Basically, to me, it tells me they destroyed a man who had some means to get this idea out there. And also keep this in mind, all this technology, and he had less that 35k in the project. Thomas Edison and Henry Ford wouldn't stand a chance today.


Well, you gotta store it somewhere....that means batteries. The amount of acid you can have on hand is limited by EPA regulations and further resricted becasue the EPA has suggested that lead is bad for people. Perhaps what he was doing was enforcing state and federal law regarding lead? Who knows? Point is that there is often a lot more to the story than is easily apparent.


10/16/2012 9:59:52 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
jjay1970
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (41,468)
Syracuse, NY
47, joined Oct. 2011


I'm not voting. I live in NY. No way is Mitt getting these electoral votes whether I vote or not. Kirsten Gillibrand and Dan Maffei are the only ones on the national ticket worth voting for and both should win easily. Locally most people run unopposed so voting is pointless.

10/16/2012 4:41:10 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
dudenoir1
Lake Charles, LA
55, joined Oct. 2012


read the romney book which was put together by the mccain campaign....

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/the-book-on-mitt-romney-here-is-john-mccains-ent

such gems as :

forcing blind people to pay an anual fee for id that says they are blind. among other fees ...even R

If you read this it goes into detail everything....

the president of FOX said, "I started the socialist talk by telling our people to use that...I know it's not true but once it gained traction I just went with it

While I dislike Mr. Obama's politcs.... at least we know where he stands....romney is a flipflopper even on his alltime fav movie...

Bain Capitol as the book points out....still to this day takes American jobs and ships them overseas....I really don't care who you vote for....I am good $$$...but to vote against something and not know what you are supporting is....not the wisest thing but hey americans ranks near the bottom in education...so what would one expect...

AND LAST...THE BUSHES W AND HW HAVE BEEN SILENT...NANCY REAGAN....SILENT...AND ALL THE FORMER bush and regan big shots ZIggy B, kissinger and the likes don't support ROmney...
GOTTA ASK YOURSELF WHY.....LOL....enjoy the dog and pony show

10/16/2012 5:26:53 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
dudenoir1
Lake Charles, LA
55, joined Oct. 2012


http://www.ibtimes.com/romney-book-opposition-document-likely-2008-mccain-campaign-3973

obama his record we know.....THIS IS ROMNEY'S RECORD as put together by Mccain...

10/16/2012 7:27:12 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
wife_me19
Toledo, OH
24, joined Sep. 2012


Shit Im Voting Obama And Dont Give A F**k Who Dont Like it!!!!

10/16/2012 8:10:44 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
dalton230912
Middletown, OH
29, joined Jul. 2012


<~~~~~~~~ writing in bill Clinton's name at the bottom of my ballot with a big ole. Checkmark! Think that'll work?

10/17/2012 12:54:17 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


Quote from andy505050:
Sure, maybe. Or the fact he was producing enough electricity that the electric company had to cut him a check each month. Special interests get involved and the little guy gets snuffed out. Its wrong.


Met an engineer from Oak Ridge that lived a few miles from my parents farm in Tennessee back in the mid 80's. He used an old APU he bought from a military property disposal office to power a generator that he used to suppliment his electric on his farm using a spring and water-head he built. Kinda like Hoover Dam in miniature. He also bought trout hatchlins and raised them in the reservior. Tasty...we had some a few times.

He got paid back by TVA, too because of his monthly averages he supplied more electric than he used sometimes. So selling power back to utilities is nothing new. If everyone stored the excess power they use everybody could get money back but that has little to do with "sustainable" energy. If everybody did it it wouldn't pay off and they couldn't make the power of a single power plant much less supply the whole country with energy.

It's like your neighbor is on a savings spree but if everybody did it there wouldn't be a reliable supply because wavings can't make up for expense. Little quirks in the system can't support it. It is cute and nice but just a novely, not a solution.



10/17/2012 12:32:56 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


I think Obama slipped up. In one sentence he said, ".....blah, blah, blah...... when I was President.....blah blah, blah...." When I "WAS" president? Past tense? Fruedian slip? I wonder?


10/17/2012 3:21:26 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (279,752)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


I will never NOT vote, as long as I live.

But it remains MY vote and none others.

10/17/2012 9:13:16 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (279,752)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Andy .....
And I even have the IQ to vote!!!!

10/18/2012 11:25:40 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
berdan
Lady Lake, FL
72, joined Jul. 2010


On the 4th of Oct, Obrama sign bill 1388 for 20mill dollars to bring over known terrorize and criminals from Himor Af. to U.S. and sopport them to a better life style, in which way they can blow up our stores and parks like they do in their country.
The first lady was record in saying about our flag day, whats the big deal over a flag any ways. I fought for that flag and for the freedom for which it came and the right for you to vote the way you want.
Obrama and clinton are trying to get gun control where they will take all our guns away from us. Any country in the past that had gun control kill it's population of millians lifes. Who do you think they will kill here?
Learn who your voting for and not because he looks cute. I don't care about romney but he's for our contry and Obama isn't.
All his friends are on staff are old bank bail outs, if you lost your job is because of the banks and loan company paid themself big bucks.

10/19/2012 12:06:37 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
boy305_toy
Opa Locka, FL
34, joined Oct. 2012


Educated answer is, no one wouldn't know if we doin great or doin bad. Media don't have access to real federal files proving anything. I have a job, my sister, family an friends. Traffic doin work hours growing, school buses out on the street, police force huge. Tell me who unemployed besides homeless ppl, most college kids an retired ppl. Who they counting unemployeed? Be smart ppl.

10/21/2012 4:46:35 AM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

truckdriver007
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,294)
Bowling Green, KY
59, joined Feb. 2012


I am not voting for Romney, I am voting against oboma, not because I like Romney but because I don't think this country can stand 4 or more years of obama. He has pushed things on the US people that he had no right to do, he has sold us out to china, and he has tried to change this country into a muslim country. He is a complete waste of a human life.

10/21/2012 12:47:52 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (279,752)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010




10/22/2012 3:34:31 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


It doesn't matter in my state. I'm not voting for any president becasue that die is cast, however it is important to remember that Congressmen that actually make the laws and local politicians are on the ballot, too. You really only vote locally....the rest is already a done deal. I think Romney will kick ass. But all I do is "think it". I don't know it.


10/25/2012 3:08:20 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (279,752)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Who said I was, or NOT?



























































10/26/2012 1:47:18 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

58dpilot
Springdale, AR
62, joined May. 2012


OK, I predict that there will be a landslide. Guess where that is going?


10/26/2012 2:07:05 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (279,752)
Assumption, IL
68, joined May. 2010


Am I?

10/27/2012 3:22:06 PM Why are you voting for Mitt Romney>?  

tborsey
Acworth, GA
39, joined Sep. 2011


Why are rich successful people greedy. Because they work for their money. But it isn't greedy for someone to sit on their lazy a** and collect a paycheck. I'm an American, I want my guns and I don't the government telling me how to live. Obamarx is a socialist. I just glad I got out of the army before he took office.