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10/11/2012 12:15:30 PM Is Obama Too Nice?  

molark
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My buddy says the Prez is different because he is not crooked, doesn't represent the old or even new school politics, had not been swept the the cash machine that public service can become. I think if true, this is a good positive symbol reflected to America. But Romney came in with blows from the alley style of fighting. Can Obama follow through or will Biden have to do the low blows? Whatever, it's good if Obama is positive, but he must change his style to win. What do you think?

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10/23/2012 3:41:06 AM Is Obama Too Nice?  
zoey357
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didnt see this last debate but heard he was aggressive !.......grrr..lol

10/24/2012 11:31:10 AM Is Obama Too Nice?  
lake7
Kansas City, MO
38, joined Jul. 2011


Ask Monsanto if Obama can be bought or not. An honest politician doesn't get to the White House. We are in the same boat whether the puppet in office is democrat or republican

10/24/2012 7:08:00 PM Is Obama Too Nice?  
mr_darcy2012
Chicago Heights, IL
39, joined Jul. 2012


Too nice? In what context? Ask Osama bin Laden if President Obama is too nice.

Oh wait, you can't. He's dead.

10/25/2012 10:26:02 AM Is Obama Too Nice?  

molark
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (16,971)
Chicago, IL
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I'm still trying to explain that first debate strategy
What was it, he didn't want to offend? It was the most foolish thing
Obama could have done in the world

I'm with him all the way, we all are, these ups and downs
the early voting is intense here in Chicago intense
these the people the polls don't count

but yes, he's nice - admittedly the wrong word in re to bin laden -
to the extent there's something about him that is, another wrong word,
morally okay

i still haven't got hold of neibuhr's book, children of light children of darkness
but it explains how the liberals must recognize and compromise the conservatives
in order to move forward, neibuhr was a socialist catholic priest or
apologist philosopher that obama studied

it's this policy of not offending "we must not offend them"

as long as we get to the finish and get over nov 7 it's making my
arse tight

10/25/2012 7:43:51 PM Is Obama Too Nice?  
mr_darcy2012
Chicago Heights, IL
39, joined Jul. 2012


"First debate strategy"? The man was tired. Remember, he is the President--Mittens is unemployed and has been running for this office for, what, 12 YEARS? Anyways, its interesting how everyone has forgotten that the night before that first debate, a NATO ally was attacked. I'm sure if any of us spent hours in the WH situation room, we would be off our game the next day, too.

10/27/2012 1:35:09 PM Is Obama Too Nice?  

molark
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Quote from mr_darcy2012:
"First debate strategy"? The man was tired. Remember, he is the President--Mittens is unemployed and has been running for this office for, what, 12 YEARS? Anyways, its interesting how everyone has forgotten that the night before that first debate, a NATO ally was attacked. I'm sure if any of us spent hours in the WH situation room, we would be off our game the next day, too.


you're right
thinking like obama would have me going cross-eyed

they say he cold
you're right he
got to compartmentalized

he's the heaviness intellectual
this country got imagine

people complaint he don't socialize
he - the party - take their money
obama said, since college
he rather be home reading

there's something powerful about this man
we haven't yet seen what he can do

and what he gonna do

able to handle rahn, dave and
valerie jarrett - she the one
she handled the fumbling mayor daley
found obama and michelle

it's an unimaginable dynamite team
only happens once in a life time

hey, darcy2012, thinks for reminding me

10/29/2012 9:45:38 PM Is Obama Too Nice?  
gracenthedark99
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Ypsilanti, MI
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If by "too nice" we mean humanitarian, then I approve. We can support economic change, but at what cost? Do we choose economics over good foreign politics? Do we choose business over the needs of the people? Business will not make us great again. It will make us mediocre and the wealthy merely wealthy until they fall. BTW Biden is fantastic and just knows how the United States Constitution protects us all. Review his response on abortion in light of Catholicism during the debates.

10/30/2012 2:44:34 AM Is Obama Too Nice?  
zoey357
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obama

11/7/2012 10:51:39 AM Is Obama Too Nice?  

molark
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11/8/2012 5:43:59 PM Is Obama Too Nice?  

shopper3637
Tonawanda, NY
72, joined Feb. 2011


You can NEVER be too nice. He is nice and refreshing in politics

11/9/2012 11:03:38 PM Is Obama Too Nice?  
nanu45
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,359)
Eugene, OR
54, joined Mar. 2008


I say give the man a vacation from now until January 20th, and then....

This Iran shit, this Patraeus shit....

I'm sick of GOP dirty tricks.

Mighty sick.

11/11/2012 7:11:32 AM Is Obama Too Nice?  
snugglecat
Willard, OH
63, joined Jul. 2012


I very much appreciate our president's personality and demeanor, and so do a lot of us, eh? Electoral college and popular vote to handily usher in a 2nd term- you go, Obama! Too nice? Maybe sometimes...when I've felt he should give the Republicans hell, but I don't mind too much since he's so cool, calm and collected. I feel safe with him in charge. Also, he's extremely intelligent and articulate which I always appreciate in any man. I believe he will go down in history as one of our best presidents ever. Plus, he is a wonderful husband and father- what a beautiful family they are!

11/13/2012 2:13:25 PM Is Obama Too Nice?  
pento105
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Small business owner Judy Nichols, a Papa John's franchise owner, told FOX and Friends today that she will be forced to cut her staffing or pay an Obamacare fine of $40,000 that she cannot afford. Nichols says, "Every restaurant you eat at is impacted negatively by the new health care law."


It didn’t take long. The layoffs and closings are piling up. The saddest thing about compiling this list is that by the time today is over, the list will probably have grown dramatically.

The next saddest part is that at least some of these lay off employees voted for Barack Obama because they didn’t believe this would happen. These are more than just headlines. Every number represents real people who have lost their livelihood.

Boeing Announces Big Layoffs in Defense Division cut 30% of workforce

Anonymous employer in Los Vegas: “I have 114 employees. I’m firing 22”

Momentive Inc. plans 150 “temporary” layoffs – Tyler County West Virginia

Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania “voluntary furloughs” for 300 town workers. Joe Biden’s gift to his old neighborhood

Berks County Pennsylvania Exide Technologies to lay off 150 workers

Groupon is starting with 80 employee layoffs. But more will certainly follow as the stock price has dropped from $20.00 to $3.85 in the past year

TE Connectivity to close Guilford North Carolina plant to lay off 620

50 Layoffs at Anniston Alabama weapons incinerator plant Murray Energy of Steubenville Ohio to layoff 150

Associated Milk Producers of Worthington Minnesota has laid off 130 workers

Stanford Brake plant of Lincoln County Kentucky to lay off 75 by Christmas

TurboCare, Oce Manchester and East Hartford Connecticut laying off more than 220 workers

ATI of North Richland Hills Texas to layoff 172

SpaceX – Rocketdyne Hawthorne California lays off 100

Providence Journal lays off 23 full time employees

CVPH of Plattsburgh New York to lay off 17

New Energy of Indiana lays off final 40 workers and closes up

102 East Carbon Utah miners lose jobs – war on coal KIAs






lets ask the people he has succeded in getting laid off if they think he is too nice



[Edited 11/13/2012 2:14:48 PM ]

11/15/2012 10:58:11 AM Is Obama Too Nice?  
pento105
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By James Arlandson
Thanks, Obama voters. You just imposed on the rest of us degraded medical care and rising costs. This is no longer hypothetical or abstract. It's real. It's the law.

Here are some of the bad repercussions of your vote:

1. Decline in pay for doctors

Medicare pays doctors only a small fraction of the work they put in. So if she does $100.00 worth of work, Medicare sends him $20.00 or $25.00. Is it any wonder that doctors pad the bill? One of my students who works in a doctor's office said in class she's in charge of billing, and it's "totally true" that Medicare pays doctors only a fraction of what they did.

Another one of my students told us that the doctor she used to work for (she still keeps track of her friends who work in the office) was getting arrested for fraud. He said, "How am I supposed to pay my employees on such little money? How am I supposed to live?"

Have you sat in a doctor's office recently? Doctors take in patients per hour at an alarming rate, just to pay their own bills. I can hear their muffled voices in the mini-offices nearby. I don't imagine he spends more than five minutes -- and that's long -- with each patient.

Doctors run through patients like cattle at branding time.

If you don't believe this will happen under Obamacare, you're naïve. Costs will be rationed (see no. 3, below), and that rationing will include a doctor's lowered reimbursement for services rendered.

2. Government health care is inferior

What would happen to the NBA if you were to pass a law that pays every player $100K, no matter how good or bad he is? Answer: the best players would go overseas and play for more money. The mediocre players would become the starting five. The back benchers would be rotated in as if they're the sixth or seventh man. Maybe the "top mediocre" players (if there is such a thing) would take money under the table. Why would they play hard when they get the same as the worst players?

The quality of the NBA would decline. The TV contracts would expire and not be renewed. The fan base would shrink to WNBA levels and so would the caliber of play. Remember the NFL replacement refs recently? The NFL went downhill, and the fans booed.

Why the inevitable decline? What's going wrong?

The left misreads -- they always misread -- human nature. The law of human nature and economics says that if you don't pay people well, the best and the brightest won't go into the profession.

Why would future doctors sign up for four years of Medical school hell and come out saddled with huge student loans when Obamacare shall pay them so little, just because some leftist bureaucrats say doctors make too much anyway. "It's not fair!"

As a result, we will get doctors who just graduated from Hollywood Upstairs Medical School. They will be little better than an RN -- if you're lucky.

Consider Canada and Great Britain. Our friends up north and over the pond don't have the highest medical care under their health services, to put things mildly.

How long do Canadians wait for the specialist? About 9.5 weeks.

According to a new study by Canada's Fraser Institute, surgical waitlists are costing the nation about $1 billion each year in lost productivity. The average Canadian can now expect to wait 9.5 weeks for treatment with a medical specialist, this number up from 9.3 weeks last year. (Source)

The wait time adversely affects the patient.

Based on a 2011 Statistics Canada finding, the study makes the assumption that 11% of patients "were adversely affected by their wait for non-emergency surgery." Dividing the cost individually, health rationing for Canada's 941,321 patients seeking specialized surgery came out to $3,500 per patient in lost wage hours. (Source)

If you're in a lot of pain, 9.5 weeks can mean a lot of misery.

How much does healthcare spending cost Canadians per person annually?

According to the Canadian Institute for Health Information, healthcare spending annually totals about $200 billion, or $5,800 per person when spread across the country's 35 million residents. (Source)

In Great Britain, in a terrible irony: the former director of the National Health Service (NHS) died while waiting for her treatment, which had been canceled four times.

Margaret Hutchon, a former mayor, had been waiting since last June for a follow-up stomach operation at Broomfield Hospital in Chelmsford, Essex.

But her appointments to go under the knife were cancelled four times and she barely regained consciousness after finally having surgery.

Her devastated husband, Jim, is now demanding answers from Mid Essex Hospital Services NHS Trust -- the organisation where his wife had served as a non-executive member of the board of directors. (Source)

Patients can starve to death in the NHS or leave medical care with malnutrition:

Malnutrition killed more than 240 patients on NHS wards in 2007, the highest toll in a decade, figures show.

The appalling statistics reveal that the number of men and women starving to death in hospitals has risen by 16 per cent since Labour came to power.

Since 1997, 2,311 hospital patients have died from malnutrition and the effects of hunger.
There were 209 cases in 1997, when Tony Blair was elected under a pledge to save the NHS.

Ten years later the toll was 242.

In one area the number of deaths from malnutrition rose by more than 50 per cent.

The figures also show that over the past decade 55 patients have starved to death in council-run care homes.

[...]

In 1997, 70,658 patients were admitted with malnutrition and 75,431 discharged from hospital with it.

By 2007, these figures had jumped to 130,594 admitted and 139,127 discharged. (Source)

Remember the opening ceremonies to the London Olympics and the praise festival to Socialism?

Maybe it should have been a funeral march.

We can now expect, broadly speaking, the same in the USA.

It gets worse.

3. Yes, Virginia, there really is a death panel

Yes, supposedly to save costs, a panel of bureaucrats will decide, for example, that a 60-year-old cancer patient will not get chemotherapy. It's too costly, and younger patients need it. Elderly, go home and take a pill. If you believe the Independent Payment Advisory Board's cost-cutting measures won't ration medical care, which will involve life and death decisions at the end of the bureaucratic process, you still believe in the tooth fairy. Let's hope the bureaucratic fairy isn't mean and requires you to fill out paperwork just so you can be considered for the operation.

11/15/2012 11:04:41 AM Is Obama Too Nice?  
pento105
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Dildo, NL
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4. Incredibly Shrinking Doctors

The number of doctors will shrink, possibly by eighty-three percent, if doctors carry out their threat. But even if they don't, America will still face a shortage of doctors.

Eighty-three percent of American physicians have considered leaving their practices over President Barack Obama's health care reform law, according to a survey released by the Doctor Patient Medical Association


Even if doctors do not quit their jobs over the ruling, America will face a shortage of at least 90,000 doctors by 2020. The new health care law increases demand for physicians by expanding insurance coverage. This change will exacerbate the current shortage as more Americans live past 65.

By 2025 the shortage will balloon to over 130,000, Len Marquez, the director of government relations at the American Association of Medical Colleges, told the Daily Caller. (Source)

But wait. There's more.

5. Medicare is cut

To help pay for Obamacare cuts from Medicare will happen. ABC News Jake Tapper reports that in 2009 Obama admits that one-third of ObamaCare funding is taken from Medicare.

Eventually, millions will come under one program -- ObamaCare.

6. Taxes go up

There are over twenty ticking tax bombs waiting to explode in the American economy. Here's a partial list:

• A 2.3% excise tax on U.S. sales of medical devices that's already devastating the medical supply industry and its workforce. The levy is a $20 billion blow to an industry that employs roughly 400,000.

• A 3.8% surtax on investment income from capital gains and dividends that applies to single filers earning more than $200,000 and married couples filing jointly earning more than $250,000.

• A $50,000 excise tax on charitable hospitals that fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance" and other rules set by the Health and Human Services Dept.

• A $24 billion tax on the paper industry to control a pollutant known as black liquor.

• A $2.3 billion-a-year tax on drug companies.

• An $87 billion hike in Medicare payroll taxes for employees, as well as the self-employed.

• A hike in the threshold for writing off medical expenses to 10% of adjusted gross income from 7.5%.

• A new cap on flexible spending accounts of $2,500 a year. (Source)

These taxes will hinder growth in certain sectors of the economy and cost jobs.

7. Millions will still be Uninsured

Remember the reason for ObamaCare? Millions were uninsured. How could that be justice, according to utopian leftists? It turns out, however, that millions will still be uninsured.

The CBO reports:

CBO and JCT now estimate that the ACA, in comparison with prior law before the enactment of the ACA, will reduce the number of nonelderly people without health insurance coverage by 14 million in 2014 and by 29 million or 30 million in the latter part of the coming decade, leaving 30 million nonelderly residents uninsured by the end of the period (see Table 3, at the end of this report). Before the Supreme Court's decision, the latter number had been 27 million. (Source)

For more about the grim results, read Jeffrey H. Anderson's article "CBO: Obamacare to Cost $1.930 Trillion," Leave 30 Million Uninsured

8. You might not be able to keep your private insurance through work

Some companies will provide health insurance for their employees, but how long will this last if the company experiences profit loss or decline?

ObamaCare will lead to a dramatic decline in employer-provided health insurance-with as many as 78 million Americans forced to find other sources of coverage.


AND I GUARENTEE THAT BEFORE ALL IS SAID AND DONE THE LIBERAL/DEMOCRATS WILL SOMEHOW FIND A WAY TO BLAME THE TEA PARTY FOR IT



[Edited 11/15/2012 11:05:41 AM ]

11/15/2012 6:01:12 PM Is Obama Too Nice?  
pento105
Over 1,000 Posts (1,521)
Dildo, NL
49, joined Jan. 2012


i truly love how after a novel is written you grab on to the smallest detales and run it through the wringer and just dont even aclnowlege the rest