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11/30/2012 7:39:40 PM At exactly what point in time did a late spouse become an "EX"?  

kathysmith
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Fort Lauderdale, FL
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At exactly what point in time did a late spouse become an "EX"?

Whether on health forms in hospitals or in conversation, I have both seen and heard this error made many times over a period of years. However, when reference to a late spouse as an "ex" is being made on popular television shows and in major national magazines, it is clearly time to voice protest and offer correction.

As defined by virtually every dictionary in every language, "ex" means former. The death of a spouse or partner does not nullify a marriage or relationship -- that sort of nullification involves a divorce or a breakup. I assure you that when it comes to widowhood, no one left the marriage willingly (and yes, that includes situations involving suicide). No one filed any divorce papers or had the uncomfortable "breakup speech." Spouses were ripped apart by death, families have been fractured by loss and survivors subsequently catapulted into new lives not of their choosing. All are doing the best that they can with the unfortunate set of circumstances that have been handed to them.

Given this tragic set of circumstances and already coping with overwhelming grief, can you then imagine how it feels when reference is made to a late spouses as an "ex-wife" or an "ex-husband" or an "ex-fiance(e)"? In using that incorrect reference, the widowed are not only insulted, marriages and relationships are also dishonored, as are the lives that the surviving spouse shared with their late beloved and the healing journey that the surviving widowed and their families have been left to navigate.

One widow shares her story of filling out a form at her doctor's office. As is customary, the form gave choices for marital status disclosure; however, the only choices included on the form were "single," "married" and "divorced." Since our widowed friend fit into none of the stated categories, she correctly wrote in the word "widowed"... and was thereafter accused of trying to "call attention" to herself. Please be reminded that this accusation came from a health care provider.

Trust me when I say that we who are or have been widowed can think of many other much more desirable ways to get attention. Seriously.

The correct terminology for a deceased spouse is "late." It is by no means the best term in the world as I don't remember my own late husband being "late" for anything, but it is certainly much better than "ex." "Ex" refers to someone with whom one is no longer involved and that someone, somewhere made a choice in ending a relationship. "Single" refers to someone who has never married. Neither term is now, nor will ever be correct when referring to a late spouse or to a widow respectively. I personally would not stand quietly by and listen to anyone diminish the life that I had with my late husband (including his over two-year journey to the grave) by referring to him as an "ex-husband" and I would encourage any other widowed to assert themselves in the same manner.

To all doctors, hospitals, health care providers, government entities and anyone else in the position of soliciting personal information in written form, here is a terrific idea: Add a box that says "widowed"; it's just not that difficult. Here is an additional news flash... the widowed are truly not looking for any gratuitous attention by stating a truthful marital status that they would happily give up in order to check the "married" box on your form. Contrary to seeking unwarranted attention, the widowed are instead looking for understanding, compassion -- and perhaps even a little help and direction.

To those who are in the writing profession on any level and in all mediums, your audiences deserve better than hearing "ex" bandied about in the most incorrect way imaginable. Finally, if you are either related to or know someone who is widowed, please do not ever refer to their late spouse as an "ex." The widowed have suffered enough daggers to the heart; they don't need any more from people who are supposed to care.

I realize and readily acknowledge that much of this may sound trivial or insignificant (usually to those who haven't experienced widowhood firsthand). However, our concern will always remain with the millions in the widowed community who are constantly subjected to incredible insensitivity on a daily basis. Please help minimize that insensitivity by doing the kindness of referring to a late spouse as just that... "late".

They are not "ex."

They are not "former."

In this case and quite plainly...

"Ex" does not mark a sadly vacant spot.

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11/30/2012 9:39:58 PM At exactly what point in time did a late spouse become an "EX"?  
realoldtimers
Toledo, WA
66, joined Aug. 2012


Quote from kathysmith:
At exactly what point in time did a late spouse become an "EX"?

Whether on health forms in hospitals or in conversation, I have both seen and heard this error made many times over a period of years. However, when reference to a late spouse as an "ex" is being made on popular television shows and in major national magazines, it is clearly time to voice protest and offer correction.

As defined by virtually every dictionary in every language, "ex" means former. The death of a spouse or partner does not nullify a marriage or relationship -- that sort of nullification involves a divorce or a breakup. I assure you that when it comes to widowhood, no one left the marriage willingly (and yes, that includes situations involving suicide). No one filed any divorce papers or had the uncomfortable "breakup speech." Spouses were ripped apart by death, families have been fractured by loss and survivors subsequently catapulted into new lives not of their choosing. All are doing the best that they can with the unfortunate set of circumstances that have been handed to them.

Given this tragic set of circumstances and already coping with overwhelming grief, can you then imagine how it feels when reference is made to a late spouses as an "ex-wife" or an "ex-husband" or an "ex-fiance(e)"? In using that incorrect reference, the widowed are not only insulted, marriages and relationships are also dishonored, as are the lives that the surviving spouse shared with their late beloved and the healing journey that the surviving widowed and their families have been left to navigate.

One widow shares her story of filling out a form at her doctor's office. As is customary, the form gave choices for marital status disclosure; however, the only choices included on the form were "single," "married" and "divorced." Since our widowed friend fit into none of the stated categories, she correctly wrote in the word "widowed"... and was thereafter accused of trying to "call attention" to herself. Please be reminded that this accusation came from a health care provider.

Trust me when I say that we who are or have been widowed can think of many other much more desirable ways to get attention. Seriously.

The correct terminology for a deceased spouse is "late." It is by no means the best term in the world as I don't remember my own late husband being "late" for anything, but it is certainly much better than "ex." "Ex" refers to someone with whom one is no longer involved and that someone, somewhere made a choice in ending a relationship. "Single" refers to someone who has never married. Neither term is now, nor will ever be correct when referring to a late spouse or to a widow respectively. I personally would not stand quietly by and listen to anyone diminish the life that I had with my late husband (including his over two-year journey to the grave) by referring to him as an "ex-husband" and I would encourage any other widowed to assert themselves in the same manner.

To all doctors, hospitals, health care providers, government entities and anyone else in the position of soliciting personal information in written form, here is a terrific idea: Add a box that says "widowed"; it's just not that difficult. Here is an additional news flash... the widowed are truly not looking for any gratuitous attention by stating a truthful marital status that they would happily give up in order to check the "married" box on your form. Contrary to seeking unwarranted attention, the widowed are instead looking for understanding, compassion -- and perhaps even a little help and direction.

To those who are in the writing profession on any level and in all mediums, your audiences deserve better than hearing "ex" bandied about in the most incorrect way imaginable. Finally, if you are either related to or know someone who is widowed, please do not ever refer to their late spouse as an "ex." The widowed have suffered enough daggers to the heart; they don't need any more from people who are supposed to care.

I realize and readily acknowledge that much of this may sound trivial or insignificant (usually to those who haven't experienced widowhood firsthand). However, our concern will always remain with the millions in the widowed community who are constantly subjected to incredible insensitivity on a daily basis. Please help minimize that insensitivity by doing the kindness of referring to a late spouse as just that... "late".

They are not "ex."

They are not "former."

In this case and quite plainly...

"Ex" does not mark a sadly vacant spot.

I believe that they never become ex's. When I talk about my wife I use the word late, or former wife. I know I fresh from my wife passing. But I lost a wife 40 years ago and I always used the word late.

12/1/2012 12:11:40 AM At exactly what point in time did a late spouse become an "EX"?  

lovethelake17
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (35,651)
Henderson, NV
58, joined May. 2009


I've never heard a late spouse referred to as an 'ex' except by one widower who told me his new gf would refer to his late wife as his ex.

For her, evidently, it made an easy reference point. He did not like it, and let her know.

But I've never seen it on a form nor on TV.


If you copied this from somewhere, you should cite the source.

12/1/2012 1:43:06 PM At exactly what point in time did a late spouse become an "EX"?  
chilln49
Over 1,000 Posts (1,785)
Indian River, MI
54, joined Aug. 2012


maybe the widow/widower has been married and divorced before becoming a widow???? We can't assume what other peoples lives have been like. I myself was married 20 years to my EX. And I am a widow to my second husband. Not that I need to make that plain for everyone but what the hell I have no reason to hide anything.

12/1/2012 6:08:32 PM At exactly what point in time did a late spouse become an "EX"?  

lovethelake17
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (35,651)
Henderson, NV
58, joined May. 2009


This is where you copied that from.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carole-brody-fleet/widow_b_1899266.html

12/2/2012 12:50:35 AM At exactly what point in time did a late spouse become an "EX"?  

all_thumbs
Lake Wales, FL
69, joined Aug. 2010


My spouse will never become an "EX".

I may refer to her as my late wife.

I may refer just refer to her as my wife.

I may just say we...

It all depends on who I'm talking to and what we are talking about but I'll NEVER refer to her as an "EX".

12/2/2012 9:20:03 AM At exactly what point in time did a late spouse become an "EX"?  

sunnydee7777
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,674)
Clermont, FL
67, joined Aug. 2011


Quote from all_thumbs:
My spouse will never become an "EX".

I may refer to her as my late wife.

I may refer just refer to her as my wife.

I may just say we...

It all depends on who I'm talking to and what we are talking about but I'll NEVER refer to her as an "EX".


Good post..I totally agree with you...My late husband will NEVER be referred as an EX..

to all