Are our cars spying on us?

6/21/2013 7:31:58 PM	Are our cars spying on us?
rcrmike Souderton, PA 58, joined Apr. 2009	This garbage came in my e-mail, but since it's automotive related, I thought I'd share it with everyone, just in case you'd be interested. Anyone know how to hack it and turn it off? That rusty 65 Mustang is looking rather appealing right now. The second half is a commercial come-on, but I'm not going to censor someone's article content.Mike Your Car is Spying On You Published Thu, Jun 20th, 2013 Marty Biancuzzo, Senior Political Analyst Think about your morning: You gather the last of your belongings before heading off to work. As you exit the house, you unlock your car. It beeps, the headlights flash, you approach your vehicle and get behind the wheel. You start the engine, back out of the driveway and drive down the road. Whether that drive is one mile or one hundred miles, there’s something that you should know… You’re being tracked. You see, inside your car there’s a “black box” similar to the ones found in airplanes. And it logs all of your information from startup to shutdown. And the government has mandated that every new car sold by September 1, 2014 must have a black box on board. In fact, 96% of all 2013 vehicles have these black boxes. But a couple members of Congress are introducing legislation that would require a user-friendly “off switch.” Origins of Intrusion If you happened to read your owner’s manual cover-to-cover, you’d probably know what I’m talking about. But, if you’re like the vast majority of people on this planet, there’s a strong chance that this is the first you’re hearing about these black boxes. Inside most of today’s vehicles, a recorder the size of a deck of cards is lodged in unspecified locations. This “black box” is called an Event Data Recorder (EDR), and it was initially intended to track “crash data,” which consists of moment-by-moment statistics of the events leading up to a collision. Tracking things like vehicle speed, engine speed, throttle position, braking status, steering angle, force of impact, seatbelt status and airbag deployment. This type of data was initially designed for motor vehicle safety enhancements. But now it’s being used as key evidence in civilian and insurance court cases… No Opting Out The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is preparing regulations for full EDR implementation starting next year. The problem is the NHTSA doesn’t want your EDR to have an off switch. Heck, they don’t even want you to know where it’s located. Representatives Mike Capuano (D-MA) and Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI) want to change that. They believe that you should have full control over your vehicle’s black box. You see, many folks have been completely sandbagged by their EDR in a court of law… a device they didn’t even know was in their vehicle! And Capuano and Sensenbrenner believe that’s totally unfair. The two representatives have proposed legislation that would require every manufacturer to divulge information about the black box before any buyer drives the car off the lot. Additionally, the legislation would give full ownership of the data collected on the black box to the vehicle titleholder. That is, of course, if the titleholder wants the EDR turned on in the first place…which brings us to the most important part of the legislation. Both representatives believe you should have the right to turn off your EDR if you don’t feel like being traced. Profiting From Technology Rapid advancements in data-collecting and tracking technology are putting our privacy in jeopardy. And there’s no question that technological invasion of privacy will be the leading policy conversation in the coming generation. 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6/21/2013 8:39:48 PM	Are our cars spying on us?
karrpilot Oswego, IL 53, joined Jul. 2009	One of the guys at work told me a funny story. A friend of his got drunk, and smashed up his car. As the air bags went off, his On Star alerted the authorities, and an ambulance was dispatched to the crash site. Along with the police, to see what, if any other damage, was done. Luckily, the drunk just hit a parked car. However, with the police involved, said drunk was arrested, tossed into jail, lost his license, and I am not so sure what happened with the insurance claims. So is big brother watching us? You betcha! At least the guy didn't hit or kill someone else in the process.
6/21/2013 11:26:01 PM	Are our cars spying on us?
earl425 Houston, TX 61, joined Jun. 2013	Here's something else that is going on. My car has installed a tracker that can tell if my date has herpes and takes snapshots of her from a red box under the dash and runs her photo and body stench odor through the registry. It tells how many men she has been with in which case is usually 50 men per year as well as her solicitation attempts. It tells how many exes she has sued for their houses which at age average of 28 is about three on average. With this new mechanical technology I am on my way to finding the right skank. Some of these women are read by the red box to need an actual exorcism . Isnt this new stuff just amazing?
6/27/2013 7:56:29 PM	Are our cars spying on us?
rcrmike Souderton, PA 58, joined Apr. 2009	Thanks Karr. That brings up the next level of spying, insurance. Has anyone thought about how the Progressive Insurance Co "Snapshot" device works? It monitors our driving habits. Great way to be awarded a discount OR an increase on our premiums. It's like having fulltime informants spying on us while we drive. And stupid peope sign up for this program willingly. What happens if we loan our car, or the mechanic takes it for the 80 mph testdrive to find that vibration? Wait til the first mechanic gets sued. I'm leary about our insurance companies downloading our car's computer when they perform an accident claim. It's just sitting there unattended behind the bodyshop for the taking! Isn't that a violation of what is considered to be safe from seizure of our effects and property? Then they take us to court to disallow the claim by proving fault or negligence. The insurance companies already perform a "Credit Check" on drivers to evaluate their driving risk. No lie, I checked with my agent. People with lower credit scores pay higher premiums! Don't believe me, try purchasing insurance without giving your SS number. When you refuse to divulge it, you automatically pay the highest rate. Can you believe it? Your poor credit history MAKES you a risky driver. Only in America!
6/27/2013 8:22:26 PM	Are our cars spying on us?
karrpilot Oswego, IL 53, joined Jul. 2009	Snake Farm sent me a very similar letter. I could get another discount. I forgot just how much, but it only applied if I had that tracker devise you stated. When the lady on the telephone described it in detail, I declined. Then just for kicks, I asked her how many people signed up for said discount. Her answer? Not many. Gee, I wonder why. Due to my job, and being on call in the winter, I can, and have had, odd hours. If someone saw that, they might not think too highly of me. What's he up to? Where is he going? Always to work? Yeah, right. This guy is either a player, or selling dope. There goes my discount.
6/27/2013 8:34:08 PM	Are our cars spying on us?
cupocheer Assumption, IL 68, joined May. 2010	My daughter has a car that "knows" everything ... but, OP -- this IS NOT a new story. The "black box" feature was being installed on new cars circa 2000. I had one. Is Big Brother "spying" on us? Yes, he is. The federal law which permits this is the legal basis of Homeland Security issues. The same security issues most Americans were in favor of following the 9-11 attacks. Can you imagine the destruction, via internet, to America if Big Brother weren't doing his job?
6/28/2013 6:42:38 PM	Are our cars spying on us?
truckergeo Las Vegas, NV 52, joined May. 2011	all newer cars/trucks can do this and are semi`s tell the office what rpm were at how many stops we made what gear were in and so on...what do you think that snap shot of your driving is doing?....at home I drive a 83 Toyota and a 55 cad.....::
7/5/2013 3:46:13 PM	Are our cars spying on us?
ertswuywrtesujw Pahrump, NV 57, joined Jun. 2012	Yes, but any hacker worth their merit can alter data. So if your insurance co gives you a hundred bucks off your monthly premium, and some hacker charges you a couple hundred a year to have your device report your new perfect driving record. That's a grand a year savings. And if the courts allow the black box as evidence, that thousand dollar ticket for going 110 in a 55 just went away while the cop has to go recalibrate his radar. Sounds like a rather lucrative black market franchise to me. Such a shame I have ethics, such easy money. But let's give a "little" free education. These boxes most likely communicate through rf using the cellphone network, thus a simple solution might be a time delay repeater / jammer; thus effectively blocking the box and replacing it's data. The time delay would have to very based on the difference in speed and the length of travel time. The hack will have to know the speed limit. Some speed limit signs do have bar codes, but some good mapping / gps software would be better, as stop signs and lights could more easily be programmed, or deprogrammed for those who don't pay the hacker. And in the case of a hard connection the hack would need to access and back up the box with it's corrections. Security protocols and connectors will most likely very. Now that is all good for an unethical consumer, but let's say insurance a wants to cost insurance b some customers. Such might be as simple as programming the rf side of the hack above into their customers boxes, only instead, now programed to scan for insurance b's rf signature and momentarily interrupting it with diversely altered data such as erratic accelerations and breaking, or running stop signs when encountered there etc. Pranksters could do similar, and unethical cops could have their own toys. All of this might just be scratching the surface, but I think it might show the uselessness of such devices.

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