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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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Where there is true love...It will be easy with very little work to maintain the relationship.
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| 1/31/2014 10:48:20 PM |
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alls_fair
Thorlákshöfn
Iceland
96, joined May. 2011
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from oceanblues53:all I hear is work, work, work, where is the love? 
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It died when Cinderella fell of the back of the horse and got shit on!!!
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| 1/31/2014 10:50:18 PM |
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tanzkity
Irving, TX
42, joined Aug. 2008
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Do we live in fairy tales now.....
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| 1/31/2014 10:51:10 PM |
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fun2bchattin
Hedgesville, WV
49, joined Feb. 2011
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Do you think hard work equals high maintenance?
Is it the same thing?
What if there is a lot of drama in their life?
I believe.....hard work, is for real people, not afraid to push their sleeves up and dig in.  Who doesn't have drama.....to some degree? I want a man.....willing to help me unpack, as I will him. As for high maintenance? My view on that......is a man/woman "needing" to be taken care of... because he/she can't do it on their own.
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| 1/31/2014 10:53:37 PM |
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oceanblues53
Cayce, SC
57, joined Apr. 2011
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Where there is true love...It will be easy with very little work to maintain the relationship.
Some just dont get it ranger. what's that word again? oh yeah...effortless
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| 1/31/2014 10:55:43 PM |
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oceanblues53
Cayce, SC
57, joined Apr. 2011
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Yikes! someone get that guy a bar of soap!
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| 1/31/2014 10:57:54 PM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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Tanz...
I'm certainly no expert, nor am I Prince Charming.
But I did have the "Fairy Tale" for 20 years and know in my heart what it was like. d
Did we ever disagree...Yes.
Did we ever fight...No.
Did we have issues to deal with...Yes.
But NEVER...Not once did we have to actually work hard to maintain our love, our relationship or our marriage.
Together we work on issues that everyone has, with additional health issues.
Yes, we worked on those together...But never about our relationship.
Ocean...
Loving someone in a good relationship should be effortless.
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| 1/31/2014 11:03:20 PM |
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oceanblues53
Cayce, SC
57, joined Apr. 2011
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I agree with you and ranger. Hard work? Nope --- if it takes that much "work" to make it enjoyable, it's time to move on. People don't change, if it's not a match, it's not a match. Personalities, communication skills, integrity, honesty are intrinsic, not a project I want any part of -- no "fixer upper" for me. If a guy over 50 doesn't have his sh7t together as far as relationship skills, there are plenty of women desperate enough to accept anything.
I've seen tons of people start dating and have disagreements right away --- those don't work out --- if you're not having fun it's not worth wasting time trying to "work hard to make it work".
She gets it 
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| 1/31/2014 11:07:03 PM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. They say there is someone out there for everyone.
They also say that true love only happens once, maybe twice, in your lifetime. I had my first one. Now, I'm praying there's a second out there somewhere for me.
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| 1/31/2014 11:13:30 PM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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I don't worry, I'm realistic.  Many people who would like to, never get to remarry.
I may be one of them.
Don't give up. Keep your options open. You're a beautiful lady. I'm sure you have men beating down your doors for a chance to get to know you.
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| 1/31/2014 11:21:10 PM |
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oceanblues53
Cayce, SC
57, joined Apr. 2011
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Remember love is a weapon.... so is hate.... sooooo is lust. Choose ur poison... love is always worth dying for buttttttt! But but butt! Love is a action word if the other person don't show it..... mabe its lust or hate. Or mabe the love is like that bar of soap ms.ocean spoke of.... all-washed-up 
LOL you know why I said get some soap. 
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| 1/31/2014 11:22:28 PM |
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oceanblues53
Cayce, SC
57, joined Apr. 2011
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Thank you, ranger, that's kind of you.
What he says is true, never give up, and thats an order missy 
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| 1/31/2014 11:22:45 PM |
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just4forums2
Barcelona
Spain
48, joined Oct. 2013
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. They say there is someone out there for everyone.
They also say that true love only happens once, maybe twice, in your lifetime. I had my first one. Now, I'm praying there's a second out there somewhere for me.
This saddens me. I'm not sure why...maybe because it just seems that much harder to find something real and genuine.
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| 1/31/2014 11:25:32 PM |
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just4forums2
Barcelona
Spain
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Remember love is a weapon.... so is hate.... sooooo is lust. Choose ur poison... love is always worth dying for buttttttt! But but butt! Love is a action word if the other person don't show it..... mabe its lust or hate. Or mabe the love is like that bar of soap ms.ocean spoke of.... all-washed-up
I think people who use love as a weapon don't really know what love is. Or care.
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| 1/31/2014 11:25:40 PM |
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tanzkity
Irving, TX
42, joined Aug. 2008
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Funny i know its a cliche but once i stopped expecting and looking he just came into my life just as if he was always there.......second chance and im taking it......
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| 1/31/2014 11:28:21 PM |
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oceanblues53
Cayce, SC
57, joined Apr. 2011
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run with it girl
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| 1/31/2014 11:30:45 PM |
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tanzkity
Irving, TX
42, joined Aug. 2008
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Ty Ocean.....
There is someone there for everyone.....
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| 1/31/2014 11:49:21 PM |
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oceanblues53
Cayce, SC
57, joined Apr. 2011
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Im a dreamer so I have to agree with you. It is true, if you stop looking and concentrate on you, love will find you when you least expect it. (I say this knowing the debbie downers will come out the woodwork)
run!!!!!!!!
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| 1/31/2014 11:55:05 PM |
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fun2bchattin
Hedgesville, WV
49, joined Feb. 2011
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dufus
dan
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| 1/31/2014 11:58:49 PM |
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oceanblues53
Cayce, SC
57, joined Apr. 2011
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I'm not a Debbie Downer, but I haven't been "looking & expecting" for 10 yrs. 
maybe this is your year galaxy 
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| 2/1/2014 12:16:51 AM |
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fun2bchattin
Hedgesville, WV
49, joined Feb. 2011
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Whale......am true blue queen of the dorks. Ask me what happened when I found a penny.
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| 2/1/2014 8:14:38 AM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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On one of the cruises I have taken, I once found a dollar bill lying on the casino floor. I picked it up, walked over to the cashier window, handed her the dollar and said, "Someone dropped this on the floor". She looked at me like I was crazy. I turned and went to the nearest slot machine, dropped 3 quarters in it, hit the button and won $75.
It's true what they say. Honesty will be rewarded 10 fold.
True story!
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| 2/1/2014 9:51:00 AM |
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halodude88
Santa Ana, CA
28, joined Nov. 2008
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Its meant to be work if you are a guy, since guys have to lead
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| 2/1/2014 9:54:22 AM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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Thanks memyred
I learned a lot from my Dad. I learned even more by watch him and my Mom over the years.
I learned what a great relationship should be from seeing it first hand. But, BOTH have to feel and believe this way. When only one believes this, the other has to work hard to maintain the relationship and therefore, it's destined to fail.
I'm not so sure if it's about working to make it work, as much as choosing the right one from the beginning.
When I find her, she'll experience a lifetime of happiness and love. We'll share that elusive "Fairy Tale".
@ halodude88
You keep saying the guy has to lead. Why does the guy have to always lead? A great relationship is based on "Common" grounds. No one "Leads" the other. We're not cattle.
I prefer a woman who is my equal. I don't want her walking one step in front of OR one step behind me. We are a team...Equals...Together.
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| 2/1/2014 9:58:19 AM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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It shouldn't what? I'm not understanding what you're saying.
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| 2/1/2014 10:32:30 AM |
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halodude88
Santa Ana, CA
28, joined Nov. 2008
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I agree rescue, I want a woman that is a partner not a poodle but yet almost all women expect men to be the dominant one in the relationship
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| 2/1/2014 10:39:48 AM |
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robtest
Norcross, GA
54, joined Sep. 2008
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communicate, negotiate and compromise ... 
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| 2/1/2014 11:03:30 AM |
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writerdog
Lawrenceville, GA
32, joined Sep. 2010
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Is that even worth asking.
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| 2/1/2014 11:06:08 AM |
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amusicluvr
Salem, OR
63, joined Nov. 2013
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A good relationship will require work, but it should not be very hard work. You should enjoy working on a good relationship. If the work becomes very difficult, it is a sign that the relationship is not so good.
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| 2/1/2014 12:22:38 PM |
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halodude88
Santa Ana, CA
28, joined Nov. 2008
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Still the vast majority of women expect men to take the lead
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| 2/1/2014 4:26:26 PM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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So...You don't believe the woman should be an equal and can share equally in the relationship?
You should encourage her to take the lead sometime. You might discover it to be the best sex you both will ever enjoy!
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| 2/1/2014 7:00:59 PM |
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halodude88
Santa Ana, CA
28, joined Nov. 2008
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No of course not, i'm just stating what women expect, I'm not saying I want it to be that way
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| 2/3/2014 9:35:15 PM |
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halodude88
Santa Ana, CA
28, joined Nov. 2008
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the overwhelming vast majority of women expect the man to lead the relationship
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| 2/4/2014 3:32:19 PM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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I think what the women are saying is that they want the man to approach them, ask them out, make decisions as to where to go. But when it comes to the relationship itself, they want an equal say as to the route/speed it takes.
Now, OT...
The statement was...
A good relationship shouldn't require hard work: True / False
It has nothing to do with who might take the lead.
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| 2/4/2014 4:07:04 PM |
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halodude88
Santa Ana, CA
28, joined Nov. 2008
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well taking the lead is work
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| 2/4/2014 6:13:18 PM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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By that thinking, making a phone call to her would be considered work. But, the question is...Should it be HARD work?
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| 2/4/2014 6:52:59 PM |
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halodude88
Santa Ana, CA
28, joined Nov. 2008
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I'm talking about always having to be the one to pick to go where and when, initiate conversation for the first time
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| 2/4/2014 7:11:01 PM |
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way2old2getsome
Austin, TX
56, joined Jul. 2013
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A good relationship is an impossibility as all relationships include both good and bad. This western ideal of erasing bad from life is tiresome.
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| 2/5/2014 11:12:03 AM |
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halodude88
Santa Ana, CA
28, joined Nov. 2008
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Meanwhile all women have to do is accept or reject at the whim
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| 2/5/2014 2:02:36 PM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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I wouldn't totally agree with that. I know plenty of women who will be glad to tell you where to go!
But, really... In a good relationship, those choices are usually made together. I've never had a problem with her suggesting where we might go or what we might do. I think it allows her the freedom to be independent, which I enjoy. If she's not given those freedoms, she will soon become bored doing only the things YOU enjoy. How will you ever learn what pleases her if you're going to control everything?
I believe that most women might see this as a sign of a man who is controlling.
If she is indeed an equal partner in the relationship...She should also have a equal say as to where you go, what you do, etc.
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| 2/8/2014 7:03:18 PM |
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smthgabouther
Baltimore, MD
34, joined Dec. 2012
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I don't agree with that statement. Relationships need to be nurtured so they can grow. It requires some effort.
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| 2/8/2014 7:36:25 PM |
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rescueranger245
Windsor, VA
62, joined Apr. 2011
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I'd say that anyone who believe it requires HARD work to have a relationship, obviously has never had a good one. A good relationship would equal to living the "Fairy Tale" and those who haven't simply don't know what they're missing.
Those who have experienced nothing but failed relationships, believe you have to work hard at it. Most likely, because they had to work hard at trying to keep their failing relationship, because it was in trouble.
Living in a good relationship is almost effortless, simply because it IS a good relationship, therefore, little work is necessary to sustain it.
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