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6/14/2014 8:09:00 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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6/14/2014 8:10:18 PM Reparations for slavery  
alls_fair
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Thorlákshöfn
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I think you should give me $5 million for the privilege to be in my country...

I have never been the benefactor of slavery but I am good and sick of listening to idiots b*tch about it though!!!



[Edited 6/14/2014 8:11:11 PM ]

6/14/2014 8:11:19 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from alls_fair:
I think you should give me $5 million for the privilege to be in my country...


I think you should give me double the amount for stealing it !


You can be sick about it all you want, you benefited from it!



[Edited 6/14/2014 8:12:27 PM ]

6/14/2014 8:16:52 PM Reparations for slavery  

thekinghasrisen
Over 2,000 Posts (2,731)
San Diego, CA
30, joined Nov. 2013


I was never a slave.

6/14/2014 8:20:24 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from thekinghasrisen:
I was never a slave.



The question would be were your ancestors slaves?


Because it does affect a family generation down the line.

6/14/2014 8:21:55 PM Reparations for slavery  

thekinghasrisen
Over 2,000 Posts (2,731)
San Diego, CA
30, joined Nov. 2013


Quote from 1truuprince:
The question would be were your ancestors slaves?


Because it does affect a family generation down the line.


Yes there were.

How that affects me however is debatable. There are no problems I experience that I believe reparations would solve.

6/14/2014 8:22:41 PM Reparations for slavery  
alls_fair
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Thorlákshöfn
Iceland
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Quote from 1truuprince:
I think you should give me double the amount for stealing it !


You can be sick about it all you want, you benefited from it!


Do tell that story wise delusional one!!!



6/14/2014 8:26:07 PM Reparations for slavery  

zeitgeist2
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (11,717)
Toledo, OH
51, joined Jan. 2012


Quote from 1truuprince:
I think you should give me double the amount for stealing it !


You can be sick about it all you want, you benefited from it!


You should be suing the Democrat party.

6/14/2014 8:26:59 PM Reparations for slavery  

cinderella_died
Dayton, VA
49, joined Dec. 2013


Quote from 1truuprince:
The question would be were your ancestors slaves?


Because it does affect a family generation down the line.


Most of my African friends would say you are in a better place for the hardships your family faced in getting here. Egyptians enslaved the Jews, English enslaved the Scottish and the Irish, enslavement has occurred over the centuries across all manners of religions and races.

Please feel free to go spend some time in Africa and determine if that is where you want to be. If so...make it permanent, but please I did not live 200 years ago and I owe nothing to anyone for what someone else may or may not have done.

6/14/2014 8:30:42 PM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,949)
West Plains, MO
45, joined Feb. 2014


Perhaps we could imprison every white man on the planet because I'm sure slaves were raped and murdered too.

6/14/2014 8:32:37 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from thekinghasrisen:
Yes there were.

How that affects me however is debatable. There are no problems I experience that I believe reparations would solve.



Due in fact many ancestors that were slaves had resources that was taken from them, lands, wealth that kept their operations alive and there family alive. The slaves have build many nations including U.S.A... where were their reparations, where were their pay for the hard work? The slaves owners benefit from it, their family down the line benefits from it... wonder why the aboriginals of Africans, latinos, natives indians suffer from it til to this day.

As me being half native indian... I have the right to claim what this native land and the suffer of my people thru history.

6/14/2014 8:33:36 PM Reparations for slavery  

thekinghasrisen
Over 2,000 Posts (2,731)
San Diego, CA
30, joined Nov. 2013


Quote from zeitgeist2:
You should be suing the Democrat party.


Which one? Thomas Jefferson? Andrew Jackson, or James K. Polk?

6/14/2014 8:34:40 PM Reparations for slavery  
alls_fair
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (20,276)
Thorlákshöfn
Iceland
95, joined May. 2011


Quote from 1truuprince:
Due in fact many ancestors that were slaves had resources that was taken from them, lands, wealth that kept their operations alive and there family alive. The slaves have build many nations including U.S.A... where were their reparations, where were their pay for the hard work? The slaves owners benefit from it, their family down the line benefits from it... wonder why the aboriginals of Africans, latinos, natives indians suffer from it til to this day.

As me being half native indian... I have the right to claim what this native land and the suffer of my people thru history.


Go back to India then...

I am confident that they are eager to give you half your share!!!



6/14/2014 8:37:06 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from cinderella_died:
Most of my African friends would say you are in a better place for the hardships your family faced in getting here. Egyptians enslaved the Jews, English enslaved the Scottish and the Irish, enslavement has occurred over the centuries across all manners of religions and races.

Please feel free to go spend some time in Africa and determine if that is where you want to be. If so...make it permanent, but please I did not live 200 years ago and I owe nothing to anyone for what someone else may or may not have done.



Why should I go to Africa if my ancestors are from this native land before it was stolen?

what africans will be happy about their ancestors being force, rape, torture, burn , and brainwash as of it being a good thing?

Many of the nations u claimed that were slaved, guess what they got reparations! So why cant my natives tribes get any? Why can them africans get any?

6/14/2014 8:37:21 PM Reparations for slavery  
luxorus
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,034)
Peoria, IL
36, joined Apr. 2014


Quote from cinderella_died:
Most of my African friends would say you are in a better place for the hardships your family faced in getting here. Egyptians enslaved the Jews, English enslaved the Scottish and the Irish, enslavement has occurred over the centuries across all manners of religions and races.

Please feel free to go spend some time in Africa and determine if that is where you want to be. If so...make it permanent, but please I did not live 200 years ago and I owe nothing to anyone for what someone else may or may not have done.


You always share brilliant insights.

We could tack on the slave labor in Siberia, descendants in Africa who helped the slave trade, the Spanish enslaved Amerindians, the Japanese in Manchuria...where do we stop?

6/14/2014 8:39:46 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Why should I go to Africa if my ancestors are from this native land before it was stolen? 

what africans will be happy about their ancestors being force, rape, torture, burn , and brainwash as of it being a good thing? 

Many of the nations u claimed that were slaved, guess what they got reparations! So why cant my natives tribes get any? Why can them africans get any?


Where is their honor for the damage?

6/14/2014 8:43:15 PM Reparations for slavery  

thekinghasrisen
Over 2,000 Posts (2,731)
San Diego, CA
30, joined Nov. 2013


Quote from 1truuprince:
Due in fact many ancestors that were slaves had resources that was taken from them, lands, wealth that kept their operations alive and there family alive. The slaves have build many nations including U.S.A... where were their reparations, where were their pay for the hard work? The slaves owners benefit from it, their family down the line benefits from it... wonder why the aboriginals of Africans, latinos, natives indians suffer from it til to this day.

As me being half native indian... I have the right to claim what this native land and the suffer of my people thru history.


History is wrife with suffering.

What is the Utopia you compare reality to where the weak don't suffer at the hands of the strong? This is the case in history since the dawn of time. There are NO exceptions. What country other than ours have come further than this one in mitigating these problems? Every man or woman who has ever been a slave in this country is dead. Our president is colored (though it doesn't appear to be helping him any). If the past had been different, than YES...things would be different. This goes without saying. Mitigations have been put into place with that firmly in mind. You can't discriminate in businesses against color, ethnicity, religion, sex, sexual preference or otherwise without facing lawsuit. Public places of business are integrated. The military is integrated. People often times forget that the history of America is still young; younger infact than any of it's developed peers. I won't live to see a day where white women won't refuse to date me because of precieved inferiority that is subscious in nature. It's too late for me. I can only pray for my children and grand children.

I don't have to like our past...but as an economist; I understand why the south didn't want to sacrifice the life-blood of their economic mobility. I don't like that women won't date me based on the color of my skin...but I accept that I am living in the FIRST generation of my family with the civil rights to even DINE with whites. I don't believe in reperations because nothing has been taken from ME that can be restored by money or things. The truest way for me to take advantage of my current situation is to utilize the freedoms that have been painstakingly secured for me.



[Edited 6/14/2014 8:44:11 PM ]

6/14/2014 8:43:47 PM Reparations for slavery  

markjetson
Over 4,000 Posts! (5,853)
Albuquerque, NM
59, joined Jan. 2013


Didn't we already rapedyernationed the hel1 out of those people. Ok, I'm just kidding, I'll talk to Obambalama, see if the Gov. can't swing unlimited Talk, text and 10 gigs of Data. For you people, only 29.99 per mo.

6/14/2014 8:48:21 PM Reparations for slavery  
luxorus
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,034)
Peoria, IL
36, joined Apr. 2014


Quote from 1truuprince:
Why should I go to Africa if my ancestors are from this native land before it was stolen? 

what africans will be happy about their ancestors being force, rape, torture, burn , and brainwash as of it being a good thing? 

Many of the nations u claimed that were slaved, guess what they got reparations! So why cant my natives tribes get any? Why can them africans get any?


Where is their honor for the damage?


Where is the honor in financially enslaving a generation that wasn't even conscious when the diabolical system occurred?

Have you studied the slave trade?

Many Africans helped bring slaves to the ships

Reparations could theoretically never end based on your premise

6/14/2014 8:48:52 PM Reparations for slavery  

douggiem
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (18,800)
Reading, PA
40, joined Dec. 2011


We can compensate them with boat tickets for their whole families back to Africa including the op.

Sound good op?

6/14/2014 8:55:30 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from thekinghasrisen:
History is wrife with suffering.

What is the Utopia you compare reality to where the weak don't suffer at the hands of the strong? This is the case in history since the dawn of time. There are NO exceptions. What country other than ours have come further than this one in mitigating these problems? Every man or woman who has ever been a slave in this country is dead. Our president is colored (though it doesn't appear to be helping him any). If the past had been different, than YES...things would be different. This goes without saying. Mitigations have been put into place with that firmly in mind. You can't discriminate in businesses against color, ethnicity, religion, sex, sexual preference or otherwise without facing lawsuit. Public places of business are integrated. The military is integrated. People often times forget that the history of America is still young; younger infact than any of it's developed peers. I won't live to see a day where white women won't refuse to date me because of precieved inferiority that is subscious in nature. It's too late for me. I can only pray for my children and grand children.

I don't have to like our past...but as an economist; I understand why the south didn't want to sacrifice the life-blood of their economic mobility. I don't like that women won't date me based on the color of my skin...but I accept that I am living in the FIRST generation of my family with the civil rights to even DINE with whites. I don't believe in reperations because nothing has been taken from ME that can be restored by money or things. The truest way for me to take advantage of my current situation is to utilize the freedoms that have been painstakingly secured for me.


It ok you are satisfied with people benefited from what your ancestors hardships into this country, you are still a slave in this country rather u know it or not, your work or money being taken from you to pay debt. Your ancestors had wealth, my ancestors had wealth , before they were taken away from their resources, land and wealth guess who benefit it? Not only that but look what 75% of this country was build upon, the blood, pain, suffer my native ancestors went thru isnt something I can look at it as a accomplishments or satisfied and Money won't do it... all the nations that suffer under slavery got their reparations. .. why cant the native people here in America get their? Why can't them blacks get theirs? They are still on the bottom and comfortable there too while those nations gotten their reparations, wealth and resources .... where u stand in society isnt wealth.

6/14/2014 8:56:44 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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Quote from douggiem:
We can compensate them with boat tickets for their whole families back to Africa including the op.

Sound good op?


Why should I go to africa... if am from this native land before it was stolen?

Why dont you go back to Europe if that the case?

6/14/2014 8:59:58 PM Reparations for slavery  

osoroho
Over 2,000 Posts (3,860)
Mesquite, TX
64, joined Jun. 2007


1Stupid ghost nigga from England find a brain you stupid Coon...

6/14/2014 9:03:15 PM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
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West Plains, MO
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Collective punishments can never be justified, especially so when it's intergenerational.



As long as you're looking for solutions outside of yourself, you'll never gain self knowledge.

6/14/2014 9:03:36 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from luxorus:
Where is the honor in financially enslaving a generation that wasn't even conscious when the diabolical system occurred?

Have you studied the slave trade?

Many Africans helped bring slaves to the ships

Reparations could theoretically never end based on your premise


If you study the African slave trade and the European slave trade is totally different, the africans that slaved africans were still able to keep his culture, feed food, and keep connection with family.... look up slave trade of africa... go deep into it... you will see it nothing like the Europeans slave trade or the American slaves.

But They are not my problem, I want reparations for my native indians, my tribe.

6/14/2014 9:16:53 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


For all of you that think others country, nations hadn't received their reparations !


DO SOME HOMEWORK

CHECK


history of reparations payments!

AND

HISTORY OF DEMANDING REPARATIONS PAYMENTS !

YOU WILL BE SHOCK !

6/14/2014 9:30:57 PM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,949)
West Plains, MO
45, joined Feb. 2014


Quote from 1truuprince:
For all of you that think others country, nations hadn't received their reparations !


DO SOME HOMEWORK

CHECK


history of reparations payments!

AND

HISTORY OF DEMANDING REPARATIONS PAYMENTS !

YOU WILL BE SHOCK !



Just because government have been stupid enough to pay them doesn't make them justified. My family came over from Germany when Grover Cleveland was president. Do I owe you reparations too? This was about 50 years before the holocaust, maybe I could be on the hook for that tragedy too?


What do you say if a man goes to prison for 20 years, but dies after 12, should his son or daughter sit in prison for the next 8?

6/14/2014 9:35:52 PM Reparations for slavery  
luxorus
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,034)
Peoria, IL
36, joined Apr. 2014


Quote from 1truuprince:
For all of you that think others country, nations hadn't received their reparations !


DO SOME HOMEWORK

CHECK


history of reparations payments!

AND

HISTORY OF DEMANDING REPARATIONS PAYMENTS !

YOU WILL BE SHOCK !



I'm shocked that you want to relive history-we're already doing a good job of that without reparations

You're wasting effort trying to foist the sin of a past generation onto another- we're doing a good job of that too without your help.

6/14/2014 9:48:15 PM Reparations for slavery  

pentopaper2
Over 2,000 Posts (3,529)
Wellston, OK
47, joined Apr. 2014


i say, thank your lucky stars your ancestors sold your great great great grandmammy to the slave traitors that put her on a ship going to america and not brazil or el salvador. to this day you whine and cry there like you do here you get a boot up your a** and told to get over it.
the best thing to happen to american blacks was slavery. because without it you would be another starving statistic in war torn congo.


bottom line,,,get over it, slavery has no bearing on you today except to use as a crutch as to why your lazy a** wont go get a job now. if you would put as much effort into fixing your neighborhoods and the future instead of worrying about a handout from 2 hundred years ago maybe you wouldnt live in such dumps like south atlanta & east st.louis and west memphis

6/14/2014 9:58:31 PM Reparations for slavery  

douggiem
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Reading, PA
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Quote from 1truuprince:
Why should I go to africa... if am from this native land before it was stolen?

Why dont you go back to Europe if that the case?


I'm not the one b*tching now am I? If you are unhappy you can leave. I you feel the land I own was taken from you then you can grow some balls and try to take it back.

6/14/2014 10:04:19 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from naprinciple:
Just because government have been stupid enough to pay them doesn't make them justified. My family came over from Germany when Grover Cleveland was president. Do I owe you reparations too? This was about 50 years before the holocaust, maybe I could be on the hook for that tragedy too?


What do you say if a man goes to prison for 20 years, but dies after 12, should his son or daughter sit in prison for the next 8?


Before you even reply.... where did I say or mention who particularly responsible for the damage of my ancestors lost?

6/14/2014 10:05:42 PM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,949)
West Plains, MO
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Quote from 1truuprince:
Before you even reply.... where did I say or mention who particularly responsible for the damage of my ancestors lost?



Where do you think the money comes from? Obama's stash?

6/14/2014 10:08:06 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from douggiem:
I'm not the one b*tching now am I? If you are unhappy you can leave. I you feel the land I own was taken from you then you can grow some balls and try to take it back.


You told me to go back to Africa as of me being african when am not..... " I you feel the land I own was taken from you then you can grow some balls and try to take it back" Wtf you said




It will be taken back rather it in blood or given.

6/14/2014 10:09:28 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from naprinciple:
Where do you think the money comes from? Obama's stash?


What does money or obama had to do with it? Am not worry about green piece of paper.

6/14/2014 10:11:18 PM Reparations for slavery  

thekinghasrisen
Over 2,000 Posts (2,731)
San Diego, CA
30, joined Nov. 2013


We will agree to disagree on a great many things.

My reparations were paid in blood. I intend to claim them through effort.

6/14/2014 10:13:32 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from thekinghasrisen:
We will agree to disagree on a great many things.

My reparations were paid in blood. I intend to claim them through effort.


Paid in blood by who?

What effort?

Do you have your resources that your ancestors had?
Do you own land?
Do you have your own economic foundation?

6/14/2014 10:15:29 PM Reparations for slavery  
cupocheer
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (138,096)
Assumption, IL
66, joined May. 2010


Let's get the government to sign a Treaty of Reparation with those claiming descent from slavery and see how long it takes for them (descendants) to collect their reparations.


Slave descendants: the line forms behind my people.

6/14/2014 10:17:57 PM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,949)
West Plains, MO
45, joined Feb. 2014


Quote from 1truuprince:
What does money or obama had to do with it? Am not worry about green piece of paper.



You're right I had no business using a strawman argument with my Obama's stash comment.


As for the money part, whether they just print the money or get through taxation we all pay for it. If it isn't about money, what reparations are you looking for?

6/14/2014 10:26:43 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from naprinciple:
You're right I had no business using a strawman argument with my Obama's stash comment.


As for the money part, whether they just print the money or get through taxation we all pay for it. If it isn't about money, what reparations are you looking for?


Before I answer that let me give you a clear understanding what reparations is. Reparations are payments or other compensations made to a group of people who have been wronged or injured. The issue was in the news in the 1990s and early 2000s as lawmakers, academics, and other leaders pressed for a redress for slavery, which some scholars call the American, or black, holocaust. The precedents for making reparations were several: The German government made reparations to survivors and families of victims of the Nazi holocaust. And the American government made reparations to Japanese Americans who had been interned during World War II (1939-45), as well as to Native Americans, for damages done to them but clearly it hasn't fully pay the damage among the nation of the native people which still demanding reparations.

The recent discussion of reparations began in 1989, when U.S. representative John Conyers (Michigan) introduced a bill, H.R. 40, in Congress to "establish a commission to examine the institution of slavery…and economic discrimination against African Americans" and, if so determined, "to make recommendations to the Congress on appropriate remedies." As the idea of reparations gained currency in the American public in the 1990s, supporters argued that redress for slavery would help heal the "open wound" of race relations and would compensate the descendants of slaves whose ancestors' work had helped build the national economy. They further argued that slavery resulted in long-term discrimination that beleaguered black Americans; they were the victims of a centuries-old, government-sanctioned system that established a legacy of race-based injustices. African American activist and author Randall Robinson explained it this way: "No nation can enslave a group of people for hundreds of years, set them free-bedraggled and penniless-to pit them, without assistance, in a hostile environment against privileged victimizers, and then reasonably expect the gap between the heirs of the two groups to narrow. Lines begun parallel and left alone can never touch."

so as you asked what are the reparations I ask... it would be simple of everything my ancestors got taken from them, this land that is so called America and every resources that belong to my family bloodline which would be alot to list!

6/14/2014 10:35:39 PM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
Over 4,000 Posts! (6,949)
West Plains, MO
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I know what reparations are. You claimed it wasn't about green pieces of paper, so I asked what else you may have been looking for. Since it does seem you do indeed want money after all, I'll ask again.

Where do you expect the money to come from to pay for reparations?

6/14/2014 10:55:22 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
Over 7,500 Posts!! (9,369)
Franklinville, NJ
33, joined Apr. 2012


Quote from naprinciple:
I know what reparations are. You claimed it wasn't about green pieces of paper, so I asked what else you may have been looking for. Since it does seem you do indeed want money after all, I'll ask again.

Where do you expect the money to come from to pay for reparations?


Land is not money... resources is not money... you fail to understand what reparations is and it always doesn't exist with money because money will not reach enough to pay for the damage it had made.

The payment should be coming from those that taken as well as benefitting from the treasures that belong to my family. I clearly pointed out land and resources.. money can do little since it have no value.

6/14/2014 11:04:26 PM Reparations for slavery  
hunter12gauge
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Bellaire, OH
52, joined Apr. 2008


Quote from 1truuprince:
Land is not money... resources is not money... you fail to understand what reparations is and it always doesn't exist with money because money will not reach enough to pay for the damage it had made.

The payment should be coming from those that taken as well as benefitting from the treasures that belong to my family. I clearly pointed out land and resources.. money can do little since it have no value.


Go piss up a rope. You'd be farther ahead. as for reparations..... My family owes your family absolutely NOTHING. YOU need to LEARN that hard work and persistance is what really "pays off". Looking toward others for what their ANCESTORS did has little to NOTHING to do with the present day. Looking for "excuses" only detract from your time of making yourself successful. QUIT being a f**kin cybaby nd go out into the world and make your mark,instead of crying on a public forum like a whinney little b*tch.

6/14/2014 11:05:22 PM Reparations for slavery  

starfox22
Over 2,000 Posts (3,872)
Castle Rock, CO
57, joined Jan. 2009


Quote from 1truuprince:
Due in fact many ancestors that were slaves had resources that was taken from them, lands, wealth that kept their operations alive and there family alive. The slaves have build many nations including U.S.A... where were their reparations, where were their pay for the hard work? The slaves owners benefit from it, their family down the line benefits from it... wonder why the aboriginals of Africans, latinos, natives indians suffer from it til to this day.

As me being half native indian... I have the right to claim what this native land and the suffer of my people thru history.


Well you know just like Lizzy Hiawatha Warren I am declaring myself 1/30th no wait make that 1/16th native American, so I want to build an Indian casino anywhere I damn well feel like it. Oh, since I have 15/16ths left I declare that I am also 11/16ths black. So send me my check. Boooya! Believe me if we ever do declare reparations for blacks there will be no test whatsoever to prove if you are a decendent of slaves. So for the record I remember my grandmammy telling me about the plantation and how her granmammy worked in the kitchen for masta, yes sir, that is how I remember it.

6/14/2014 11:18:07 PM Reparations for slavery  
darthcapital
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well OP its the same ole bull shit argument
here is why I believe reparation for slavery is nonsense

1) many people died in the civil war fighting for the freedom for slaves
2) do you compensate those families who lost loved one in that war?
3) do all blacks receive compensation?
4) what about those blacks mixed with whites who may have southern slave owners in their blood?
5) what about the blacks that migrate to the USA from countries and their ancestors has nothing do with slavery
6) how can you prove who is a descendant of slaves?
7) do rich blacks receive compensation or just poor blacks, what about criminal black gangs? and those in prison for committing heinous crimes?

and who decides who gets what?

6/14/2014 11:21:44 PM Reparations for slavery  

cinderella_died
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Quote from 1truuprince:
Why should I go to Africa if my ancestors are from this native land before it was stolen?

what africans will be happy about their ancestors being force, rape, torture, burn , and brainwash as of it being a good thing?

Many of the nations u claimed that were slaved, guess what they got reparations! So why cant my natives tribes get any? Why can them africans get any?


What do you call that monthly check native american indians get each month if not a lifetime of reparation? Puhlease.....

6/14/2014 11:36:54 PM Reparations for slavery  

isaywhen
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Here's an idea - instead of CALLING FOR THINGS how about GET A DAMN JOB?

You don't give a damn about the suffering and degradation of slaves -- you lazy a** whiners want to get rich for laying on your damn back.

Call it what it is you pathetic WHINERS.



6/14/2014 11:37:07 PM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
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Quote from 1truuprince:
Land is not money... resources is not money... you fail to understand what reparations is and it always doesn't exist with money because money will not reach enough to pay for the damage it had made.

The payment should be coming from those that taken as well as benefitting from the treasures that belong to my family. I clearly pointed out land and resources.. money can do little since it have no value.



How much land are you thinking is fair? Where at and what kind of land are you looking for?

6/14/2014 11:41:05 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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Quote from isaywhen:

Here's an idea - instead of CALLING FOR THINGS how about GET A DAMN JOB?

You don't give a damn about the suffering and degradation of slaves -- you lazy a** whiners want to get rich for laying on your damn back.

Call it what it is you pathetic WHINERS.



Fail try again
I work two jobs, my family own a business so come again with some facts.

6/14/2014 11:45:27 PM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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Quote from naprinciple:
How much land are you thinking is fair? Where at and what kind of land are you looking for?


Half of this country since my apa tribes along many other tribe living on the eastern also there are some land on the western side to would be the size of cali and texas together but dont forget the resources where golds and other important sources.

6/14/2014 11:56:54 PM Reparations for slavery  

isaywhen
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Quote from naprinciple:
How much land are you thinking is fair? Where at and what kind of land are you looking for?


Paying people alive today who are lazy lowlife welfare-sucking leaches for the suffering of slaves centuries and generations ago is ignorant PC garbage.

They deserve to get the hell up off the welfare roles and go to work just like everybody else.

No handouts - Make me sick trying to profit from the suffering of others



6/15/2014 12:02:08 AM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
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Quote from 1truuprince:
Half of this country since my apa tribes along many other tribe living on the eastern also there are some land on the western side to would be the size of cali and texas together but dont forget the resources where golds and other important sources.


So what if my land is part of the 1/2 you seek? Can I get a waiver since I'm only 3rd gen American?

6/15/2014 12:03:25 AM Reparations for slavery  

isaywhen
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Quote from 1truuprince:
Fail try again
I work two jobs, my family own a business so come again with some facts.


FAIL: You SAY you work 2 jobs and own two businesses, you remind me of that other black idiot who was always trying to convince us of his great wealth and prestige even though he looked like a bum.

Nice try -

The fight that you are willing to profit off the suffering of somebody you never knew, you never were, when maybe you sold your brothers into slavery if you wanna go that route - tells me you are another sucker feeding at the trough of human misery suffered by slaves.

6/15/2014 12:04:09 AM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
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Quote from isaywhen:
Paying people alive today who are lazy lowlife welfare-sucking leaches for the suffering of slaves centuries and generations ago is ignorant PC garbage.

They deserve to get the hell up off the welfare roles and go to work just like everybody else.

No handouts - Make me sick trying to profit from the suffering of others




I am 100% against reparations but I am a curious lot, and I like to ask clarifying questions.

6/15/2014 12:05:54 AM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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hunter12gauge:

If your family own nobody nothing, why are you b*tching?

Guilty?

you must can not read, where did I mentioned I own a business ? Ill wait for your reply. ..


There arent many natives tribes under any assistance so please feel free to satisfy your ignorant with your sore pride.



[Edited 6/15/2014 12:07:21 AM ]

6/15/2014 12:09:51 AM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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Quote from naprinciple:
So what if my land is part of the 1/2 you seek? Can I get a waiver since I'm only 3rd gen American?


That something that should be discussed in an environment matter where people make a bond... asking questions on the Internet isn't gonna bring a bond.

6/15/2014 12:21:37 AM Reparations for slavery  
hunter12gauge
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Quote from 1truuprince:
hunter12gauge:

If your family own nobody nothing, why are you b*tching?

Guilty?

you must can not read, where did I mentioned I own a business ? Ill wait for your reply. ..


There arent many natives tribes under any assistance so please feel free to satisfy your ignorant with your sore pride.

Listen up real good A**HOLE, "IF" you have two jobs and a business Whatthef**k are YOU complaining about? Hmmm?????? My family came to this country be legal means in the early 1900's slavery was nothing but a memory by then. THAT'S WHY "my family" owes you and anyone else absolutely SHIT. There was little opportunity in this country at that time. Working for the rich and elite was the only game in town. The ONLY difference between that employmeent aand slavery was a meager pay check. Both of my grand fathers(immigrants) worked as farmers and coal miners their entire life,as well as my father and uncles. Fair union work/wages didn't come until later.So the Hannas,Rockefellers,Carnegies,Mellons ALL capitalized on the backs of my fathers' and grandfathers' generations,but do YOU see any one of us demanding reparations from these enterprises? NO!!!!!!!!!!! Our grand fathers' and fathers' generations BUILT these conglomerates by the sweat of their browe and the breaking of ther backs. Guilt? not likely anytime in this lifetime or the lifetimes of my father and grandfathers. YOU are a nasty ,lazy,pathetic son of a b*tch who doesn't deserve the air that we all reathe ,let alone reparations.

6/15/2014 12:24:08 AM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
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Quote from 1truuprince:
That something that should be discussed in an environment matter where people make a bond... asking questions on the Internet isn't gonna bring a bond.



I'm not worried about ever having that conversation. If you want my land, make me an offer acceptable to me. Trying to steal it because of shit that happened over 150 yrs ago is a nonstarter.

6/15/2014 12:34:36 AM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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Quote from hunter12gauge:
Listen up real good A**HOLE, "IF" you have two jobs and a business Whatthef**k are YOU complaining about? Hmmm?????? My family came to this country be legal means in the early 1900's slavery was nothing but a memory by then. THAT'S WHY "my family" owes you and anyone else absolutely SHIT. There was little opportunity in this country at that time. Working for the rich and elite was the only game in town. The ONLY difference between that employmeent aand slavery was a meager pay check. Both of my grand fathers(immigrants) worked as farmers and coal miners their entire life,as well as my father and uncles. Fair union work/wages didn't come until later.So the Hannas,Rockefellers,Carnegies,Mellons ALL capitalized on the backs of my fathers' and grandfathers' generations,but do YOU see any one of us demanding reparations from these enterprises? NO!!!!!!!!!!! Our grand fathers' and fathers' generations BUILT these conglomerates by the sweat of their browe and the breaking of ther backs. Guilt? not likely anytime in this lifetime or the lifetimes of my father and grandfathers. YOU are a nasty ,lazy,pathetic son of a b*tch who doesn't deserve the air that we all reathe ,let alone reparations.


Your wasting your time that number one, if you own nothing then there isnt really no reason for you to support an argument you aren't guilty of. The United states own not only my people reparations but others as well. Yes I have two jobs and one is my family business and another company, I make a great living but it doesn't excuse me not to demand reparations of what my ancestors been asking for all the way to 2014 now !... I have every rights due to documents and reparations for what belong to my family. There are nations that gotten their reparations to this day, why can't my people have theirs?

6/15/2014 12:39:36 AM Reparations for slavery  
1truuprince
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naincip le:I'm not worried about ever having that conversation. If you want my land, make me an offer acceptable to me. Trying to steal it because of shit that happened over 150 yrs ago is a nonstarter.

If your land is originally belong to a family that was there before you is your shed what to do because it be your peace, I doubt anybody would want your land... America will fall anyway.

6/15/2014 12:43:31 AM Reparations for slavery  

naprinciple
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Quote from 1truuprince:
naincip le:I'm not worried about ever having that conversation. If you want my land, make me an offer acceptable to me. Trying to steal it because of shit that happened over 150 yrs ago is a nonstarter.

If your land is originally belong to a family that was there before you is your shed what to do because it be your peace, I doubt anybody would want your land... America will fall anyway.



I certainly hope so. Governments are immoral and thus should be dismantled.