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12/23/2014 8:22:21 PM A diamond is just a rock  

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but what is more valuable than a diamond?




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12/23/2014 8:26:28 PM A diamond is just a rock  
kymesu73
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A good guy that wants a great life with one special woman!

12/23/2014 8:27:05 PM A diamond is just a rock  
amusicluvr
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What is more valuable than a Diamond?

A Sapphire, a Ruby, and an Emerald. So say the Gemologists.

12/23/2014 8:28:08 PM A diamond is just a rock  

skywatcher58
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@kyme...Amen to that

12/23/2014 8:29:18 PM A diamond is just a rock  
teeheehee_
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Quote from amusicluvr:
What is more valuable than a Diamond?

A Sapphire, a Ruby, and an Emerald. So say the Gemologists.


What about opal and rose quartz?

12/23/2014 8:31:54 PM A diamond is just a rock  

stumppy
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Actually it is a mineral crystal..

12/23/2014 8:32:02 PM A diamond is just a rock  

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a decent man. a good friend. a great puppy. Integrity. a great collection of music and movies. lots of stuff.

12/23/2014 8:32:13 PM A diamond is just a rock  

skywatcher58
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@amos actually Tanzanite from Tanzania is more valuable. I want one. The mines are played out. It was found in the 1960's. I collect gem stones. I have a chrome diopside from Russia. Only mined 3 months out of the year because of the weather. So here's what I think no one knew how popular Tanzanite was going to be so I'm looking at estate sales. I think it may have been used in costume jewerly.

12/23/2014 8:32:36 PM A diamond is just a rock  

rightguyforu72
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F**king ur wife op

12/23/2014 8:33:40 PM A diamond is just a rock  

jer3552
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Quote from playingindirt:
a decent man. a good friend. a great puppy. Integrity. a great collection of music and movies. lots of stuff.
you forgot to mention a guy to go scuba diving with Ann..to find those pretty conque shells



[Edited 12/23/2014 8:34:45 PM ]

12/23/2014 8:33:43 PM A diamond is just a rock  
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Quote from kymesu73:
A good guy that wants a great life with one special woman!


You live 902 miles away and want someone far younger than myself. Your loss, sweetie!

12/23/2014 8:37:45 PM A diamond is just a rock  

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Quote from ol_buddy_ol_pal:
but what is more valuable than a diamond?



Peace on Earth, goodwill to man, all that garbage.......Merry Christmas

12/23/2014 8:38:32 PM A diamond is just a rock  

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Women do look good in diamonds. They also look just as good in perfect man-made diamonds.

I even like the chocolate and black diamonds on women.

But real diamonds are expensive, and I doubt if I will be buying any more expensive rings for my next lady. Last time, in the end, as I watched that $10,000 ring walk out the door for the last time, I felt like I must have well overspent by about $10,000!



[Edited 12/23/2014 8:39:08 PM ]

12/23/2014 8:46:17 PM A diamond is just a rock  

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Next time fish by yourself something. Diamonds and gemstones are a great investment



[Edited 12/23/2014 8:46:31 PM ]

12/23/2014 8:46:52 PM A diamond is just a rock  

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Quote from kymesu73:A good guy that wants a great life with one special woman!

Hi there local girl.

12/23/2014 9:41:02 PM A diamond is just a rock  

1sirens
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A blt

12/23/2014 9:42:59 PM A diamond is just a rock  

vagmasterflash
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Quote from ol_buddy_ol_pal:
but what is more valuable than a diamond?
...my retirement portfolio?

12/24/2014 12:06:20 AM A diamond is just a rock  
amusicluvr
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Quote from teeheehee_:
What about opal and rose quartz?


They are less valuable. The four Precious stones, in order of most valuable to least, are: Emerald, Ruby, Sapphire, and Diamond. All other stones-Opal, Garnet, Rose Quartz, Lapis, etc, are-at best-Semi-Precious. They have some value, but it is less than that of the Precious stones. Semi-Precious stones follow fads. For a time, Opals will be most popular, and so more valuable than Aquamarines, etc. At other times, the Aquamarines, of whatever, will be more popular, and thus temporarily more valuable. A lot of semi-Precious stones also go by more expensive sounding names to get higher prices. Certain Garnets are called "Cape Rubies". Some Quartz Crystal is called "Herkimer Diamond". That sort of thing would normally be considered false advertising, and fraud, but has been so common in the jewelry trade for so many centuries, that it is considered business as usual, and the principle of "Buyer Beware" applies. The courts expect that you should know such things if yo are apt to be shopping for jewelry / gemstones.

12/24/2014 12:09:50 AM A diamond is just a rock  
amusicluvr
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Quote from skywatcher58:
Next time fish by yourself something. Diamonds and gemstones are a great investment


I know. I started buying them-direct from the mines-long ago, when I was stationed overseas. I have told people here to invest in gems, and penny stocks, and they have usually mocked me. The penny stocks can go down, as well as up, but the gems never will go down if you buy direct from the mines, or from a wholesaler who buys direct from the mines.

12/24/2014 12:14:33 AM A diamond is just a rock  

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12/24/2014 12:21:01 AM A diamond is just a rock  

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Quote from amusicluvr:
I know. I started buying them-direct from the mines-long ago, when I was stationed overseas. I have told people here to invest in gems, and penny stocks, and they have usually mocked me. The penny stocks can go down, as well as up, but the gems never will go down if you buy direct from the mines, or from a wholesaler who buys direct from the mines.
That is so cool. Do you have a favorite gemstone?

12/24/2014 12:21:12 AM A diamond is just a rock  
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Bacon!!!!

12/24/2014 12:26:37 AM A diamond is just a rock  

skywatcher58
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@amos look at auctions and estate sales. I buy costume jewelry. I paid 25 cents for a 14 karet gold necklace

12/24/2014 12:27:44 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kartusch
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Quote from amusicluvr:
I know. I started buying them-direct from the mines-long ago, when I was stationed overseas. I have told people here to invest in gems, and penny stocks, and they have usually mocked me. The penny stocks can go down, as well as up, but the gems never will go down if you buy direct from the mines, or from a wholesaler who buys direct from the mines.


Interested. How do you do this?

12/24/2014 4:56:12 AM A diamond is just a rock  
mrhankchinaski
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Quote from ol_buddy_ol_pal:
but what is more valuable than a diamond?


The gold setting.

12/24/2014 5:27:09 AM A diamond is just a rock  

txrose64
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Quote from skywatcher58:
@amos actually Tanzanite from Tanzania is more valuable. I want one. The mines are played out. It was found in the 1960's. I collect gem stones. I have a chrome diopside from Russia. Only mined 3 months out of the year because of the weather. So here's what I think no one knew how popular Tanzanite was going to be so I'm looking at estate sales. I think it may have been used in costume jewerly.


I'm a crow..love the sparklies...

I have quite a bit of Tanzanite too...good stones at least a carat and that deep blue purple right before the mines collapsed. And I picked up some of that lovely deep dark green Chrome Diopside when I was working at NASA in Russia, it's mined only in Siberia a couple months out of the year.That's all I brought back with me, amber, mosaic and gems

Emeralds if of good quality and cut outweigh the value of a similar size/cut diamond.

I got my mom a Burmese Ruby for their 50th that would give a diamond a run for it's money.

Diamond's are artificially priced anywhoos..if DeBeers were to open their vaults..they'd be about 10Cents a carat.


as far as equating "Things" with the value of a person, that's a no go..they're just things..people are far more "valuable".


but I do love my sparklies.



[Edited 12/24/2014 5:29:24 AM ]

12/24/2014 5:52:46 AM A diamond is just a rock  
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Quote from ol_buddy_ol_pal:
but what is more valuable than a diamond?


quality Time

12/24/2014 6:14:32 AM A diamond is just a rock  
artokol
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Quote from amusicluvr:
I know. I started buying them-direct from the mines-long ago, when I was stationed overseas. I have told people here to invest in gems, and penny stocks, and they have usually mocked me. The penny stocks can go down, as well as up, but the gems never will go down if you buy direct from the mines, or from a wholesaler who buys direct from the mines.



It's amazing how some fools listen to this whack job.

12/24/2014 6:16:52 AM A diamond is just a rock  

rightguyforu72
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Quote from wind2soul:
quality Time


U jealous homo?

12/24/2014 6:31:38 AM A diamond is just a rock  
wind2soul
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U jealous homo?


stuff it a** cheeks

12/24/2014 6:49:21 AM A diamond is just a rock  
kymesu73
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Hey there ol buddy

12/24/2014 6:49:40 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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Quote from ol_buddy_ol_pal:
but what is more valuable than a diamond?


A moon rock

12/24/2014 6:49:56 AM A diamond is just a rock  
a4umposter
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Quote from ol_buddy_ol_pal:
but what is more valuable than a diamond?

True love?

12/24/2014 6:50:17 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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Quote from a4umposter:
True love?




12/24/2014 6:50:39 AM A diamond is just a rock  
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12/24/2014 6:52:24 AM A diamond is just a rock  

vagmasterflash
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Quote from artokol:
It's amazing how some fools listen to this whack job.
....no. he's actually on it. I did the same while living in Europe for years. Bought diamonds from the mines direct, and Rolex presidentials direct from rolex, and wore the Rolex', and diamonds, and bahts...(gold bands by weight, monetary standard in most mideastern countries) on my wrist coming back to the US declared as my own. A great investment all around. I made almost 90% profit margin. My parents were gifted with his, and hers presidentials, and I'm driving a quarter million dollar car sooo...I'm saying artokol is not a whack. My diamonds helped some in my going liquid in 2011, and I still have a few left to admire, and use in settings. I now like to pan for gold, emeralds, pink amethysts, and diamonds on my own for fun in my world adventure tours. And I have some wonderful adventure touring gem stories to tell....16 ounces of gold nuggets out of walker pass in cali in 48 hours in 2001. Pulling nuggets out of coolidge. Climbing 10,000 foot mount blackmore in Montana with freinds, and hitting the mother load of emeralds on new years 2010. Picking amethyst at home in Arizona on tribal lands while scouting alabaster, and selling them, and donating the money to the new museum, and library. Digging diamonds out of blue clay in riverbeds in arkansas, and minnesota. Each excursion, and adventure has paid for itself.

12/24/2014 6:54:15 AM A diamond is just a rock  
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Quote from driver406:
You live 902 miles away and want someone far younger than myself. Your loss, sweetie!
i believe its my gain

12/24/2014 6:57:18 AM A diamond is just a rock  

vagmasterflash
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The stones I admire the most are copper sulfate....turquoise. I enjoy all the colors, and variations. And have amassed a wonderful selection from family mines over the years for my inlay works.

12/24/2014 6:59:45 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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The stones I admire the most is this one.



12/24/2014 7:59:55 AM A diamond is just a rock  

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Interesting direction. I really didn't see this conversation becoming an investment seminar. I also didn't know an individual could purchase diamonds direct from the mines. I'll be researching that later.

From my own personal gem mining experience, I do know that the labor to polish and mount a diamond alone accounts for about about 70% of its cost. I also know that gem mining is a fun family activity!



[Edited 12/24/2014 8:00:29 AM ]

12/24/2014 8:00:51 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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Quote from ol_buddy_ol_pal:
I also know that gem mining is a fun family activity!


A know a few African families who would disagree..

12/24/2014 8:01:31 AM A diamond is just a rock  

ol_buddy_ol_pal
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Quote from kawkasian:
A know a few African families who would disagree..


Like who? You know them personally?



[Edited 12/24/2014 8:02:08 AM ]

12/24/2014 8:02:20 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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You wouldn't know them.

No, I don't know them personally...you don't really need to to understand their plight



[Edited 12/24/2014 8:02:58 AM ]

12/24/2014 8:03:56 AM A diamond is just a rock  

bumblebee7
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Quote from skywatcher58:
Next time fish by yourself something. Diamonds and gemstones are a great investment


only if they are collector grade and of high karats.

typically the most common types that most buy actually loose value....try getting back what you payed for them....and see what I mean.

12/24/2014 8:11:32 AM A diamond is just a rock  

bumblebee7
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Quote from kawkasian:
A know a few African families who would disagree..


I got the point....that many are laborers to the mine owners there.

But interesting enough, in the 1300's in Africa and he was black....was the richest man the world has ever had, even up until now.

He enslaved all his people(black people) and had them work the gold mines, and built a fortune that was/is the richest ever.

And everyday he would behead one of them to set the tone...that you better not even, look at me the wrong way..

I just learned about him and found it interesting, especially considering all the talk about slavery and all that...plus your point.

12/24/2014 8:16:26 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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I got the point....that many are laborers to the mine owners there.

Not just laborers but effectively slaves.

12/24/2014 8:21:58 AM A diamond is just a rock  

ol_buddy_ol_pal
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Quote from bumblebee7:
I got the point....that many are laborers to the mine owners there.


You're a crack up bum. I think the point was more about all the people who've had hands and other body parts hacked off for betraying their mine overlords. Oh, and it's spelled carat.



[Edited 12/24/2014 8:22:34 AM ]

12/24/2014 8:23:55 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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It can also be spelled Karat.

Possible 'chatting' detected. You have already posted in this thread recently. Please wait for some other people to reply before posting in this thread again, or wait like an hour or so, whichever comes first. Sorry for the inconvenience.

12/24/2014 8:26:10 AM A diamond is just a rock  

bumblebee7
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Anyway there are things more valuable than a diamond, even if, the same size.

The relation should be....but that's not always the case.



[Edited 12/24/2014 8:26:32 AM ]

12/24/2014 8:28:23 AM A diamond is just a rock  

bumblebee7
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Quote from ol_buddy_ol_pal:
You're a crack up bum. I think the point was more about all the people who've had hands and other body parts hacked off for betraying their mine overlords. Oh, and it's spelled carat.


nope...when your talking diamonds....its Karats.

look it up on google.

Same with Gold too.

and while your at it...research this guy from the 1300's I was referring to.



[Edited 12/24/2014 8:29:13 AM ]

12/24/2014 8:29:04 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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Anyway there are things more valuable than a diamond, even if, the same size.



Yup, as mentioned earlier the moon rocks returned from Apollo missions is/are more valuable than diamond due to it's scarcity.

12/24/2014 8:31:09 AM A diamond is just a rock  

bumblebee7
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Quote from kawkasian:
I got the point....that many are laborers to the mine owners there.

Not just laborers but effectively slaves.


True in a sense....but not quite.

they have the choice to work there or not.

Hell, if that's the case....I've been a slave before too.

Try working a Garage Door Factory back in the early seventies......when you really had to work hard and for 2 bucks an hour.

12/24/2014 8:33:27 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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they have the choice to work there or not.


Not all do. Abducted children forced to mine don't have much say in the matter, just as child soldiers don't either...



[Edited 12/24/2014 8:34:12 AM ]

12/24/2014 8:42:44 AM A diamond is just a rock  

bumblebee7
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Here's just a few minerals more valuable than diamonds per karat.

Many of these commanding from 50 to 100k per karat.

Black Opal
Alexandrite
Red Beryl
Kashmire Sapphire
Musgravite
Painnite
Paraiba Tourmaline
Burma Ruby
Jadeite
Podparadseha Sapphire



Diamonds are not that rare.... its just the amount let out to the public is regulated to not flood the market lowering their value. But the higher karat, nearly flawless diamonds are more rare and what investors invest their money in when it comes to diamonds.

12/24/2014 8:47:33 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kingslayer99
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Actually its a lump of coal compressed for millions of years until it turns pretty and dumb women make us spend our hard earned cash for it. Then again who's the dummy?

12/24/2014 8:51:24 AM A diamond is just a rock  

bumblebee7
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Quote from kawkasian:


they have the choice to work there or not.


Not all do. Abducted children forced to mine don't have much say in the matter, just as child soldiers don't either...


Actually this is true around the world for many minerals.

But its not the famous, large and legit mine owners who do this...there are countless small timers who force thru some means their own people to work this way.



[Edited 12/24/2014 8:51:49 AM ]

12/24/2014 8:54:10 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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Actually this is true around the world for many minerals.

But its not the famous, large and legit mine owners who do this...there are countless small timers who force thru some means their own people to work this way.


Well I wasn't referring to the legit operations, that would be a bit silly wouldn't it

12/24/2014 9:02:53 AM A diamond is just a rock  

mary__me
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Quote from kingslayer99:
Actually its a lump of coal compressed for millions of years until it turns pretty and dumb women make us spend our hard earned cash for it. Then again who's the dummy?



Was that by the dreaded Jedi mind trick?

12/24/2014 9:28:27 AM A diamond is just a rock  

ol_buddy_ol_pal
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Quote from bumblebee7:
nope...when your talking diamonds....its Karats.

look it up on google.



I looked ity up on google. This is what I got, genius.

karĀ·at
'ker?t/
noun
a measure of the purity of gold, pure gold being 24 karats.
"an ounce of 24-karat gold"

now go back to being stupid.

Merry Christmas.

12/24/2014 9:31:18 AM A diamond is just a rock  

kawkasian
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I looked ity up on google.

Irony..





[Edited 12/24/2014 9:32:15 AM ]