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2/19/2015 7:36:22 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  
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2/19/2015 7:38:58 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

im2thexy
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Belleville, ON
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No...more guns....more deaths...even accidents...like kids killing kids and kids killing parents....no guns there...no accidental deaths....i think it just promotes a fear based society...

2/19/2015 7:43:21 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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Liberals interpret the 2nd amendment differently than you do. Plurals do not have apostrophes.

2/19/2015 7:46:06 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  
teeheehee_
Over 4,000 Posts! (4,277)
Montreal, QC
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I support those that support it.

2/19/2015 7:49:27 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

txrose64
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Pearland, TX
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I'm from Texas what do YOU think?


2/19/2015 7:52:23 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

renee398
Chilhowie, VA
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Guns are not dangerous if people handle them properly. I mean we need them to protect ourselves,our live stock and to hunt,

2/19/2015 7:53:11 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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I hate it when highschool kids preach highscool civics...

2/19/2015 7:54:11 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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Quote from renee398:
Guns are not dangerous if people handle them properly. I mean we need them to protect ourselves,our live stock and to hunt,


Neither are nuclear weapons, but there are so many pesky regulations on our right to own them...

2/19/2015 7:54:15 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

txrose64
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (24,203)
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^what do Hondas have to do with guns?

I'm for the waiting period and even a mental health assessment & law enforcement background check on them.

we've had too many pissed off crazy folks go into Walmart, get a piece and go after someone on the evening news.



[Edited 2/19/2015 7:55:23 PM ]

2/19/2015 7:55:11 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

bumblebee7
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I support it...but I think there should be some regulations to prevent them falling into the wrong hands.

If you take away the citizens guns.

then the country is over run with criminals having all the guns and a lot less fear.

The other thing is...enough countries are apprehensive about invading us, because of the firepower of the people.



[Edited 2/19/2015 7:55:33 PM ]

2/19/2015 7:57:18 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

stanleyzee
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THE 10 COMMANDMENTS

2/19/2015 7:59:18 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
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2/19/2015 7:59:31 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  
supermanwade
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Quote from renee398:
Guns are not dangerous if people handle them properly. I mean we need them to protect ourselves,our live stock and to hunt,


2/19/2015 8:00:09 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

mustangwriter
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Blaming guns for killing people is like blaming planes for 9/11.




2/19/2015 8:15:34 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

gotheon123
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I've been shooting since I was six, my daughter has been shooting since she was six.

Guess????

2/19/2015 8:17:06 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

pdforone
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First my contribution to the gun industry and the NRA!

Obama is going to take your guns!

I think we would see a lot less gun violence if guns were of the style when the constitution was drafted? Popping off 2-3 caps a minute might slow the crime rate? Carrying a 60+ inch weapon around might indicate you were up to no good?

Single shot pistols don't seem like the best armed robbery weapons?

A lot of er... liberals own guns, they just aren't usually the only thing on their minds?

2/19/2015 8:33:20 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

grneyesrme
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Guns aren't the problem. The people who control the guns are the problem.

2/19/2015 8:43:33 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jer3552
Over 10,000 Posts!!! (12,344)
Vale, OR
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throughout the history of mankind...many more people have been killed by bows and arrows than by any other weapon....I say outlaw bows and arrows and issue firearms to everyone

2/19/2015 8:43:48 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  
stumppy
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Quote from grneyesrme:
Guns aren't the problem. The people who control the gun laws are the problem.



Fixed it !



[Edited 2/19/2015 8:44:13 PM ]

2/19/2015 8:46:49 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jer3552
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FBI says eighty percent of all handgun homicides are committed with a 25 caliber or less, meaning a 22 caliber......Saturday night pea shooters...if no guns people will stab or beat to death or spear or whatever....nature of the beast.....need guns for protection

2/19/2015 8:49:54 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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I've noticed that virtually no one has responded to the question asked. I see a lot of people's views on whether or not we should have access to guns, whether guns are necessary for personal protection and what kind of restrictions/background checks should be required.

Very few comments on the 2nd amendment, though.

2/19/2015 8:51:42 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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Quote from jer3552:
FBI says eighty percent of all handgun homicides are committed with a 25 caliber or less, meaning a 22 caliber......Saturday night pea shooters...if no guns people will stab or beat to death or spear or whatever....nature of the beast.....need guns for protection


Have you noticed how fukin hard it is to find .22 rounds?
3 box limit when you find them.

You cant take kids to the range for an afternoon.. there is no ammo around..

2/19/2015 8:53:19 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jer3552
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I love the second amendment...the forefathers had great insight and realized without a armed militia a country could be taken over easily by a foreign power

2/19/2015 8:54:56 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jer3552
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Quote from reverend_chill:
Have you noticed how fukin hard it is to find .22 rounds?
3 box limit when you find them.

You cant take kids to the range for an afternoon.. there is no ammo around..
...yes I have notice...I believe the survivalist folks are buying them up..my educated guess

2/19/2015 8:55:25 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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Jer, do you think that's still necessary/useful in view of the vast stockpile of weapons the US military holds and the relative lack of power of most personal weapons when compared with weapons of war?

2/19/2015 8:56:28 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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The second amendment is really not a discussion Lilod. The op asked a point blank yes or no question... and even liberals support the 2nd amendment...

You can still walk into walmart and with a drivers liscense buy a 12 gauge and as much ammo as you can carry. No questions..

2/19/2015 8:58:12 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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Chill, I know many people who believe that the 2nd amendment is obsolete.

2/19/2015 8:58:24 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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Nope Jerry... regulated distribution of gun powder..

You can load your own if you want but something is up with the shipment of powder..

2/19/2015 8:59:30 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jer3552
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its like debating abortion or legalization of marijuana.....no one can change anothers opinion.....I don't own a firearm, but I have to believe that people are entitled to own a firearm to protect themselves with....

2/19/2015 9:00:05 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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I believe i dont need to own a gun lilod... but only because my neihgbors have plenty.

The second amendment is necessary for freedom...

2/19/2015 9:00:22 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

l380
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Alabaster, AL
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Yes, I support the 2nd amendment.
I have 2 pistols and a rifle.

2/19/2015 9:01:16 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jer3552
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Quote from reverend_chill:
Nope Jerry... regulated distribution of gun powder..

You can load your own if you want but something is up with the shipment of powder..
ahso....this is why I believe strongly in the constitution and the ammendments and hate sneaky bastards who work around them, like regulated gun powder etc etc etc

2/19/2015 9:06:09 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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Chill...freedom from whom/what?

Jer...not trying to change anyone's opinion--just asking for yours. Do you think the 2nd amendment serves the same function today as it did in the days when government arms stocks were low to non-existent and things like bomber planes and nuclear weapons didn't exist?



[Edited 2/19/2015 9:07:55 PM ]

2/19/2015 9:09:45 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

pdforone
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The American Revolutionary war 1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISQhKxdBnpE


Ken Burns - The Civil War: Episode 1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucy7R4ZPtNE

If you are a traitor to your ruling country and afraid of being hung as one?

If you are worried about a slave uprising?

You probably feel a need for a well armed militia to protect you?

2/19/2015 9:12:51 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

stanleyzee
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Silencers and 357,s and 88 Grenades

2/19/2015 9:13:56 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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The way i see it Lilod the system was built and exists in an equillibrium...

Repealing the second is one thing but what about the fourth? Protection against unreasonable search and siezure?

You wanna get rid of guns your gonna have to repeal the fourth first to make sure i dont have one...

2/19/2015 9:17:58 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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Then once you knock those two out you can reinstate prohibition the 18th?... it should be more successful this time around..

Then we can f**k with the 15th... and deny voters based on race and heritage. Or maybe just tell women that they cant vote....the 19th..

2/19/2015 9:19:10 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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Guns protect us from ourselves...

2/19/2015 9:21:13 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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Why, Chill?

We have many other prohibitions on owning things in spite of the 4th amendment?

But, I'm not sure your comment is responsive to my question: what freedom do you see the 2nd Amendment as protecting? I'm not arguing with you--I'm trying to understand what it is that you're looking to protect and how it fits within the 2nd Amendment.

2/19/2015 9:21:42 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jester0011
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no.

2/19/2015 9:22:01 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  
be_great
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To those arguing against Government owning arms or "stockpile of weapons".....the 2nd Amendment protects those entities too.

To limit the stockpile of arms to governmental agencies is akin to diluting the 2nd Amendment, and to "choose" who should have them between the Citizens and the Government. More or less.

I support the 2nd Amendment because without it, we'd be just like Mexico where rogue, criminal gangs would have weapons when the Mexico Government forbids its citizens from doing so but yet, can't protects its citizens from criminal drug gangs killing the Mexican nationals.

Such people that disagree with the 2nd Amendment are usually Liberals to the bones and never make sense.

We have the right to protect ourselves as a People/Citizens/State if all else fail, or a grave imminent threat is upon us that has the potential to wipe us out as a People/Nation living in a peaceful, law-abiding way.








2/19/2015 9:23:21 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jester0011
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can u see a lot of these people with a gun.they are more likely to shoot themselves in the foot before protecting themselves with it.

2/19/2015 9:23:53 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

cole_tanner
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Guns don't kill people I do

2/19/2015 9:25:30 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jester0011
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Quote from lilod:
Why, Chill?

We have many other prohibitions on owning things in spite of the 4th amendment?

But, I'm not sure your comment is responsive to my question: what freedom do you see the 2nd Amendment as protecting? I'm not arguing with you--I'm trying to understand what it is that you're looking to protect and how it fits within the 2nd Amendment.
I mean can u see this girl with a gun uheeheehee

2/19/2015 9:25:31 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

cole_tanner
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More guns less crime people ain't going.to get all stupid if they know there going to get shot

2/19/2015 9:25:39 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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be_great, I'm not at all sure what you're trying to say. The 2nd Amendment, of course, does not protect or have anything to do with weapons owned by the government. The 2nd Amendment, like all of the Amendments, limits only actions taken BY the government with regard to the people.

2/19/2015 9:26:43 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jester0011
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lilrod with a gun,uhaha

2/19/2015 9:28:15 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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Early English settlers in America viewed the right to arms and/or the right to bear arms and/or state militias as important for one or more of these purposes (in no particular order):[48][49][50][51][52][53][54][55]

enabling the people to organize a militia system.
participating in law enforcement;
deterring tyrannical government;[56]
repelling invasion;
suppressing insurrection, allegedly including slave revolts;[57][58][59]
facilitating a natural right of self-defense.


Just crused through the 2nd and wikipedia and ill use this bit as why the second will never be outdated...

2/19/2015 9:29:20 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

jester0011
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the people back then wwere grown by 13 years old.we aren't like that

2/19/2015 9:29:56 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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Chill, a couple of those are clearly still relevant; others are clearly not.

But, you had this strongly held opinion before you read that, so what was your own perspective?

It's interesting that both protection against a tyrannical government and suppressing insurrection are listed as valid ends...since an effort to overthrow a tyrannical government would be an insurrection.



[Edited 2/19/2015 9:31:18 PM ]

2/19/2015 9:35:35 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
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Is government tryannical?
I dont think so.. i think its greedy and self serving but thats a different problem..

Do we live in a violent society? Do gangs steal our children and turn them into militia members? Do we have massive amounts of children in the sex trade? Being worked as child labor?

What constitutes good people as gun owners being bad, when bad people will always have guns laws or not?

Do you think illegal activities suck as drug dealing become less visible if people in the neighborhoods have guns?

Do you think criminals make the choice to commit crimes with out guns to avoid getting shot?

2/19/2015 9:35:48 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  
be_great
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Quote from lilod:
be_great, I'm not at all sure what you're trying to say. The 2nd Amendment, of course, does not protect or have anything to do with weapons owned by the government. The 2nd Amendment, like all of the Amendments, limits only actions taken BY the government with regard to the people.



That would be a flawed thinking of the 2nd Amendment.

The Supreme Court did rule that the federal goverment do play a role, and can actually step-in if the use of weapons/forming of a militia is not in accordance to the rights granted in the 2nd Amendment.

The Supreme Court ruling on such matter as stated:

...federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a

“reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.

2/19/2015 9:38:05 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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Never mind. You raise some valid questions, but every time I ask you a question, you shoot off in a different direction instead of responding. Makes the whole back and forth thing kind of pointless.

Not sure whether you've noticed or not, since more than one person has responded as if I have, but I haven't voiced a single opinion in this thread. All I've done is ask questions, almost none of which have been answered.

2/19/2015 9:39:32 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
41, joined Jan. 2014


Thats basically it... you can tell stories about all the bad things that have happened because of sloppy gun owners.. people like george zimmerman or kids accidentally pulling triggers.

But down here in florida we have sloppy python owners who leave their babies around 12 foot constrictors...

2/19/2015 9:41:06 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

lilod
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Quote from be_great:
That would be a flawed thinking of the 2nd Amendment.

The Supreme Court did rule that the federal goverment do play a role, and can actually step-in if the use of weapons/forming of a militia is not in accordance to the rights granted in the 2nd Amendment.

The Supreme Court ruling on such matter as stated:

...federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a

“reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.


I'm well aware of what the 2nd Amendment says and what the various seminal Supreme Court cases say. You seem not to understand my brief comment, as nothing in your response is remotely relevant to it, and you seem to think that you're contradicting me by saying what I said.

2/19/2015 9:42:00 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
41, joined Jan. 2014


Quote from lilod:
Never mind. You raise some valid questions, but every time I ask you a question, you shoot off in a different direction instead of responding. Makes the whole back and forth thing kind of pointless.

Not sure whether you've noticed or not, since more than one person has responded as if I have, but I haven't voiced a single opinion in this thread. All I've done is ask questions, almost none of which have been answered.


But you are asking multifaceted questions that the supreme court uses to decide gum laws... its not any easy question to answer.

2/19/2015 9:44:19 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  
Glitterbelt
Hudson, IA
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I support the right to harbour boobs of mass destruction in my bra

2/19/2015 9:47:45 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  
be_great
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Houston, TX
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Quote from lilod:
I'm well aware of what the 2nd Amendment says and what the various seminal Supreme Court cases say. You seem not to understand my brief comment, as nothing in your response is remotely relevant to it, and you seem to think that you're contradicting me by saying what I said.



You said:

"The 2nd Amendment, like all of the Amendments, limits only actions taken BY the government with regard to the people."



I said:

"...federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a 

“reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.


The 2nd Amendment is NOT limiting "action(s)" taken by the government, infact, the Government have powers to SUSPEND those rights if We The People acts in a manner that is lawless and outside of the scope of a regulated militia.....serving a purpose to protects the citizens/state.


If you can't understand that....


....oh well.







2/19/2015 9:47:54 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  
mrhankchinaski
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Aurora, CO
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I can't believe it. I finally voted.

But yes I support it.

From my cold dead hand.

Arm yourself stupid.

2/19/2015 9:49:31 PM Do you support the second admendement ? (Liberal's don't)  

reverend_chill
Boca Raton, FL
41, joined Jan. 2014


I fully support the 2nd.
And with out the second we will loose rights as the militarized portion of the government sees fit..

We will also be subject to the whims of gangs and criminals who know we are unarmed..