| 8/1/2015 3:15:55 PM |
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citylights01
Elkridge, MD
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I wonder if those who defend trophy hunting will also defend poaching?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/07/29/as-the-world-mourned-cecil-the-lion-five-of-kenyas-endangered-elephants-were-slain/?postshare=6291438244172602
NAIROBI — While the world mourned Cecil, the 13-year-old lion that was allegedly shot by an American hunter in Zimbabwe, an even more devastating poaching incident was quietly carried out in Kenya.
Poachers killed five elephants in Tsavo West National Park on Monday night. The carcasses were recovered by rangers on Tuesday morning — what appeared to be an adult female and her four offspring, their tusks hacked off.
While the killing of the lion in Zimbabwe has attracted the world’s attention, the death of the five elephants has received almost no coverage, even though elephants are under a far greater threat from poachers than lions. Their tusks can be sold in Asia for more than $1,000 per pound.
“It’s just devastating,” said Paul Gathitu, a spokesman for Kenya Wildlife Service. “It took us completely by surprise.”
Kenyan investigators say the poachers crossed the border from neighboring Tanzania, slaughtered the elephants and then quickly returned to their base, making them difficult to track. Tsavo stretches along the border for more than 50 miles.
Rangers heard gunshots ring out on Monday evening. They searched all night through the vast park and discovered the carnage the next morning. There was blood and loose skin where the tusks were cut off. Kenyan authorities say the poachers escaped on motorcycles, carrying their loot.
In recent years, the poaching of elephants has increased exponentially because of the demand for ivory in Asia, where it's used for unproven medicinal purposes. Between 2010 and 2012, poachers killed more than 100,000 African elephants — a level of destruction that put the species on the road to extinction. Unlike many other animals, elephants mourn the death of their brethren, wrapping their trunks around the bones or carcasses of the deceased.
While the African lion population is also under threat, it is largely because their habitats are being destroyed by farmers and developers, not because the animals are hunted.
Kenyan authorities say they were making progress in the fight against poachers before the recent killing at Tsavo. Last year, the government deployed 550 new rangers. Advances in technology have allowed researchers to monitor herds using GPS trackers, gauging when they might be under threat based on their movement and speed.
“We’ve increased our intelligence and our operations. We were having success,” Gathitu said. “That’s why we’re so surprised.”
In Tsavo, investigators are searching for the men who killed the five elephants. Two suspects have been arrested. Security officials found a bloodstained ax and a hacksaw in one of their homes.
It’s not just Kenya where mass elephant killings occur. In Congo, 30 elephants were killed in 15 days earlier this year in Garamba National Park. The illegal wildlife trade is valued at $7 billion to $10 billion annually.
“We are in an elephant crisis right now,” Iain Douglas-Hamilton, the founder of Save the Elephants, a nongovernmental organization, told The Post recently.
Just two days before the Tsavo elephants were killed, President Obama announced during a visit to Kenya that he would introduce more restrictions in the United States to diminish the market for ivory there. The regulation would prevent the sale of ivory from African elephants across state lines.
But the United States makes up only a fraction of the international ivory market, and regulations in Asia remain loosely enforced.
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| 8/1/2015 3:58:58 PM |
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dwwcat
Orange, TX
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Poaching has nothing to do with the Zimbabwe lion, The dentist paid for the permit and had government sanctioned guides..It was the corrupt Zimbabwe system and the landowners that lease the land that's hunted..I bet you didn't know the landowner was also their with the professional guides?
Hunters are the most outspoken group against poaching..
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| 8/1/2015 4:01:31 PM |
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m_gonzales
San Antonio, TX
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Poaching has nothing to do with the Zimbabwe lion
Thank you!
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| 8/1/2015 4:08:55 PM |
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
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city needs to understand hunters a lot better than she does. 
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| 8/1/2015 4:11:07 PM |
Poaching is terrible |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
43, joined Jul. 2014
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 how many threads u gonna do 
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| 8/1/2015 4:32:33 PM |
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pdforone
Litchfield, OH
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" Hunters are the most outspoken group against poaching.. "
While some one may be watching? It's been my experience that a lot of the self proclaimed sportsmen really are not.
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| 8/1/2015 4:34:06 PM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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| 8/1/2015 5:40:11 PM |
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citylights01
Elkridge, MD
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Poaching has nothing to do with the Zimbabwe lion, The dentist paid for the permit and had government sanctioned guides..It was the corrupt Zimbabwe system and the landowners that lease the land that's hunted..I bet you didn't know the landowner was also their with the professional guides?
Hunters are the most outspoken group against poaching..
So, you're against poaching? Good.
However, as you can see, this thread is about poaching. Good to see that you are against it.
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| 8/1/2015 5:40:36 PM |
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citylights01
Elkridge, MD
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Thank you!
So you're against poaching, too? Good.
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| 8/1/2015 5:48:17 PM |
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
40, joined Jul. 2014
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Poached eggs are good.
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| 8/1/2015 5:51:10 PM |
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beachlivinnow
Gig Harbor, WA
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I see once again, you're quick to jump on the hunter but apparently give a pass to the dirty guide who actually allowed this to happen.
But then, being a good liberal, you cannot be critical of anything done by blacks, even though it's their corrupt policy that allowed this in the first place.
You know, they might just let you into the Special Olympics.
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| 8/1/2015 5:56:11 PM |
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reginamc
Las Vegas, NV
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Presidente Obama sure gets wired up about the weirdest things. I think he's got ADD.
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| 8/1/2015 5:58:24 PM |
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
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Poaching is terrible that is why the overwhelming majority of American Hunters don't poach.
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| 8/1/2015 6:12:44 PM |
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m_gonzales
San Antonio, TX
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So you're against poaching, too? Good.
Of course.
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| 8/1/2015 6:18:21 PM |
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fellowforyou
New York, NY
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Poaching, yes, it's horrible. People want to put some spin on it.
A spin that renders a lie.
Don't believer in those that want to take the lives of animals
for sport and little else.
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| 8/1/2015 6:20:44 PM |
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dwwcat
Orange, TX
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Hunting leases at a tune of a couple hundred to a couple thousand in yearly fees to hunt, camp, or whatever, you can bet those paying lease holders will shoot a poacher just as much as sighting in his rifle.
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| 8/1/2015 6:27:40 PM |
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
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Poaching in the states is very rare not to say it does not happen but it's rare. The Game Wardens where I live are on top of their game. They will hunt down a poacher.
I have caught several hunting on my property out of season and turned them in. If you hunt my property you had better have my written permission.
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| 8/1/2015 6:28:15 PM |
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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OP, is it possible, in your opinion to poach on your own land? 
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| 8/1/2015 6:50:17 PM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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Poached eggs are good.
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| 8/1/2015 6:50:19 PM |
Poaching is terrible |
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drwookie
Reading, PA
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Poaching is one of the charges against the killers of the lion.
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| 8/1/2015 6:52:27 PM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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OP, is it possible, in your opinion to poach on your own land?  
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| 8/1/2015 7:52:13 PM |
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citylights01
Elkridge, MD
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Quote from beachlivinnow: I see once again, you're quick to jump on the hunter but apparently give a pass to the dirty guide who actually allowed this to happen.
But then, being a good liberal, you cannot be critical of anything done by blacks, even though it's their corrupt policy that allowed this in the first place.
You know, they might just let you into the Special Olympics.
You're saying these elephants were killed legally?
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| 8/1/2015 8:20:37 PM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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Yes, they had permits from the city,
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| 8/1/2015 8:27:52 PM |
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inventtis2
South Haven, MI
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I'm a hunter and I hate poachers, they are f**king scum.
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| 8/1/2015 8:41:12 PM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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<~~~~~~poacher
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| 8/2/2015 10:16:52 PM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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Da f**k! Nobody came back, 
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| 8/2/2015 10:19:49 PM |
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reginamc
Las Vegas, NV
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Da f**k! Nobody came back,
We figured you needed to be alone for a bit. 
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| 8/2/2015 10:27:53 PM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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| 8/3/2015 7:29:09 AM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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I put poachers on the same level as pro choicers disgusting pieces of shit
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| 8/3/2015 7:31:59 AM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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Actually poachers are a little less disgusting.
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| 8/3/2015 8:10:31 AM |
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wvtravlrr
Ravenswood, WV
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Look up the history of Ducks Unlimited...You'll find they are a bunch of hunters who had alot..if not everything..to do with the fight against DDT...The first major victory by the eco-nuts..
However it was the right thing to do..DDT caused soft shelled eggs in waterfowl...and the Sporting Waterfowl were being decimated..
I have no respect for poachers....But thats a very different thing than someone taking a white-tail out of season to feed his family..
Poachers who hunt just for the thrill of it.deserve everything they get when caught...
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| 8/3/2015 8:28:21 AM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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Actually poachers are a little less disgusting.
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| 8/3/2015 8:46:37 AM |
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walt_hallow
Lexington, KY
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I put poachers on the same level as pro choicers disgusting pieces of shit
^^
poster child for abortion
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| 8/3/2015 8:53:36 AM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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^^
poster child for abortion
^^^ baby poacher
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| 8/3/2015 8:56:59 AM |
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mr_bad_robot
Cincinnati, OH
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Before Cecil was killed most liberals had no clue what poaching was.
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| 8/3/2015 10:25:08 AM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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Before Cecil was killed most liberals had no clue what poaching was.
Poaching is liberalism
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| 8/3/2015 10:36:24 AM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
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| 8/3/2015 10:56:10 AM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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Hell yea,
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| 8/3/2015 11:44:48 AM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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Hey do not get me wrong i hunt antlers but within the law. i enjoy the animals and want to better the lives of those i do not harvest.
While donating any spare meat
To hunters for the hungry
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| 8/3/2015 11:48:42 AM |
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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Hey do not get me wrong i hunt antlers but within the law. i enjoy the animals and want to better the lives of those i do not harvest.
While donating any spare meat
To hunters for the hungry
I can up deer meat and give it to folks out here without refrigeration
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| 8/3/2015 11:50:33 AM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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I can up deer meat and give it to folks out here without refrigeration
Sounds delicious never had canned deer
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| 8/3/2015 11:55:12 AM |
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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Sounds delicious never had canned deer
I can every kind of meat I get my hands on, even home smoked bacon
It's very good, and simple to do
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| 8/3/2015 12:04:53 PM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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I can every kind of meat I get my hands on, even home smoked bacon
It's very good, and simple to do
as a kid my parents canned.
but not meat.
how long does it last canned
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| 8/3/2015 12:07:13 PM |
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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as a kid my parents canned.
but not meat.
how long does it last canned
Years
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| 8/3/2015 12:09:07 PM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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Years
Reminds me of my. Home pickled
Eggs.
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| 8/3/2015 12:21:24 PM |
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naprinciple
West Plains, MO
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Reminds me of my. Home pickled
Eggs.
I pickle excess eggs too. In fact I'll pickle most anything too, I just pickled some squash a few days ago.
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| 8/4/2015 12:02:47 AM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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Deer meat sucks ass
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| 8/4/2015 12:16:27 AM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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Deer meat sucks ass
Little indian gal i know can put a pretty good scald on
Some tenderloin.
Personaly i jalpeno stuff it
Then cream cheese and bacon wrap the loins then smoke it
With old barkless mesquite.
Oh man better than sex with a dallas cowboy cheerleader
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| 8/4/2015 12:20:24 AM |
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beanhammer
Denton, TX
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I should not give out my recipe but for chili mix 1 half wild ground hog with 1 half ground deer using quality cuts.
Season to taste
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| 8/5/2015 8:17:25 AM |
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wvtravlrr
Ravenswood, WV
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Little indian gal i know can put a pretty good scald on
Some tenderloin.
Personaly i jalpeno stuff it
Then cream cheese and bacon wrap the loins then smoke it
With old barkless mesquite.
Oh man better than sex with a dallas cowboy cheerleader
Try marinading those loins in Italian salad dressing with red wine vinegrette..
about 24 hours or so..
Then wrapping them in bacon and smoking them with applewwod chips at 250 degrees for about 2,5 hours,,
melts in your mouth,,and you'll have to sit down...oohh thats good stuff..
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| 8/5/2015 8:26:32 AM |
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wvtravlrr
Ravenswood, WV
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Another tip for Venison roast is to prepare your roast the way you like with carrots onions and whatever..
but add turnips to it...takes the "gamey" taste out of it....good good good...
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| 8/5/2015 8:29:01 AM |
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wvtravlrr
Ravenswood, WV
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I should not give out my recipe but for chili mix 1 half wild ground hog with 1 half ground deer using quality cuts.
Season to taste
Holy cow...if you use half a deer where I live your making ALOT of chili...
we've got some big cruisers up here...
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| 8/5/2015 10:29:34 AM |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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Ugghhh deer chili,  I'd rather eat dog tacos from Mexico,
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| 8/5/2015 10:41:03 AM |
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Yasureoktoo
Seattle, WA
60, joined Dec. 2014
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Or French poodle tempura.
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| 8/5/2015 5:37:19 PM |
Poaching is terrible |
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urealysucklol
San Benito, TX
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